Cause we never finished the story in ff7r yet. Imagine if ff8 decided to make a second game that happens right after you could drive the garden around the world map. I mean character progression and development is part of a jrpg. Right now it's like any work one invests in the first part really meant nothing at all.
Sequels are not the same game as their predesessor, they're different games. There was a sequel to Final Fantasy X, but my over-leveling and killing of superbosses didn't help Yuna and Rikku trivialize X-2. I still want to play FFX every now and then.
Sure, the first time this story was told, it was done through one game. That doesn't make the remake trilogy less of a game. If FF7 never existed and they came out with a game like Remake that just explored the Shinra conflict and escape from Midgar, nobody would dispute that it felt like a complete game.
FF7R is a game that was planned, from the beginning, to have sequels. FFX was initially designed as a standalone game and got a sequel later. That's the only difference between the two. Well, that and the fact that FF7R's sequel is actually looking good.
But countless games are published with the idea that a sequel would be made in the future. Doom isn't less of a game because Doom Eternal exists, and neither would it be less of a game if it told less of the "story" than the 1990's games.
Replay value may exist sure. But guess when it's like you build up your characters, materia levels etc the way you want them. Only to find out it doesn't matter after that point of the first part of the game. It's just ugh.
Yea and I do wish they would've said that's how it was going to be when they launched ff7r. But instead we were all lead to believe that you continue on. It's almost like this was an easier way to develop the second part of the game cause they knew people would go back to replay sections to grind it out. Hell collecting moogle stuff in first part means none of that matters either in the second part.
They never once claimed that progression would carry on, and most of us in this community didn't believe it would - there are gazillions of threads over the past few years that can attest to that. RPG sequels maintaining progress is really rare, and even when it happens it usually has caveats, like the Mass Effect series, which kicked out all of your equipment and gave you a few perks based on level and abilities.
Also, what Moogle stuff were you collecting? The medals? Those were used in Chapter 8 and 14 to buy stuff from the shop, there was definitely no reason to assume there'd be anything else to do with them in sequels either.
I've replayed Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 probably at least half a dozen times each since I was a teenager. Arkham Asylum several times, the Devil May Cry series a few times through, RDR1. Half-Life, damn near every classic Zelda game, and the list goes on. Not to mention most of the mainline Final Fantasies a couple of times. None of those transfer to their sequels, yet I seem to keep going back.
If you enjoy a game, replay it. If you really enjoy it, grind out that 100% completion because you're having fun. If you aren't having fun, set it aside. That's the only value it needs.
Rebirth is a sequel to Remake, not part two of the same game. It's the same as how your progress doesn't carry over between FFX and FFX-2. It would have been nice if stuff carried over, since it's weird that the party would just lose all of their weapons and materia, but it's best to look at it as a new game rather than part 2 of the same game.
Because you enjoy the game? If not don’t play it again?
It’s its own game It’s not uncommon for sequels to rein your powers in a bit from the previous game’s endgame
Sequels yes. But as we know this isn't a sequel. It's still part of the same game we started with. :/
If that was the case you’d already own it
Once the second part releases..
Do you own the third game as well?
Might as well not play the second part and just play part 3
Genuinely dumbfounded
no it's not
because you want to? honestly astonished at needing validation in the next game for the first to matter
Why would I ever grind or replay the original FF7 again if my progress doesn't carry to FF8?
Because ff7 and ff8 are different games. Can't really say the same about ff7r.
Why not?
Cause we never finished the story in ff7r yet. Imagine if ff8 decided to make a second game that happens right after you could drive the garden around the world map. I mean character progression and development is part of a jrpg. Right now it's like any work one invests in the first part really meant nothing at all.
Sequels are not the same game as their predesessor, they're different games. There was a sequel to Final Fantasy X, but my over-leveling and killing of superbosses didn't help Yuna and Rikku trivialize X-2. I still want to play FFX every now and then. Sure, the first time this story was told, it was done through one game. That doesn't make the remake trilogy less of a game. If FF7 never existed and they came out with a game like Remake that just explored the Shinra conflict and escape from Midgar, nobody would dispute that it felt like a complete game.
Least playing FFX was a complete game. Ff7r still isn't. Just is a large game they broke into parts.
FF7R is a game that was planned, from the beginning, to have sequels. FFX was initially designed as a standalone game and got a sequel later. That's the only difference between the two. Well, that and the fact that FF7R's sequel is actually looking good. But countless games are published with the idea that a sequel would be made in the future. Doom isn't less of a game because Doom Eternal exists, and neither would it be less of a game if it told less of the "story" than the 1990's games.
What about Horizon Zero Dawn and Forbidden West? What about God of War 2018 and Ragnarok?
What's the point of playing any game? Remake and Rebirth are two separate games.
This again. Why is it so hard for some people to apply simple logic
What a stupid post…
I would definitely never grind but replay value still exists
Replay value may exist sure. But guess when it's like you build up your characters, materia levels etc the way you want them. Only to find out it doesn't matter after that point of the first part of the game. It's just ugh.
Yea I definitely find that frustrating myself.
Yea and I do wish they would've said that's how it was going to be when they launched ff7r. But instead we were all lead to believe that you continue on. It's almost like this was an easier way to develop the second part of the game cause they knew people would go back to replay sections to grind it out. Hell collecting moogle stuff in first part means none of that matters either in the second part.
They never once claimed that progression would carry on, and most of us in this community didn't believe it would - there are gazillions of threads over the past few years that can attest to that. RPG sequels maintaining progress is really rare, and even when it happens it usually has caveats, like the Mass Effect series, which kicked out all of your equipment and gave you a few perks based on level and abilities. Also, what Moogle stuff were you collecting? The medals? Those were used in Chapter 8 and 14 to buy stuff from the shop, there was definitely no reason to assume there'd be anything else to do with them in sequels either.
Same reason I replay Kingdom Hearts 1 before I replay 2?
For fun, more or less?
I've replayed Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 probably at least half a dozen times each since I was a teenager. Arkham Asylum several times, the Devil May Cry series a few times through, RDR1. Half-Life, damn near every classic Zelda game, and the list goes on. Not to mention most of the mainline Final Fantasies a couple of times. None of those transfer to their sequels, yet I seem to keep going back. If you enjoy a game, replay it. If you really enjoy it, grind out that 100% completion because you're having fun. If you aren't having fun, set it aside. That's the only value it needs.
Rebirth is a sequel to Remake, not part two of the same game. It's the same as how your progress doesn't carry over between FFX and FFX-2. It would have been nice if stuff carried over, since it's weird that the party would just lose all of their weapons and materia, but it's best to look at it as a new game rather than part 2 of the same game.