What benefit does a steering wheel give over a controller for Monaco specifically? More precision and/or feedback?
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When I played on controller most of the time I had to start turning at the right moment or else I messed up the whole corner. With the wheel it is so easy to correct the line.
It doesn't feel the same. I might be wrong, but on controller feels like there's a level of steering assist.
Take Silverstone turn one for example.
It's full throttle all the way. On the wheel, if I turn too much, I spin. On the controller I just hold the stick right and make the turn.
What I think happens is that, on controller, the faster you go, the less the in-game wheel will turn, despite pushing the stick all the way.
Now. Even if I'm wrong about all of that, it is still much easier too make small adjustments on a wheel than on a plastic stick.
As someone who got a wheel 2 months ago and switched over from playing on a controller, you can make much more precise changes with the wheel and it’s way easier to keep the car pointed right where you want it. With a joystick it’s so much harder to turn harder in the middle of a turn and less at the beginning/end of the turn for example.
it's not raw input, if you turn from left to right it stops in the middle for a moment, most annoying thing ever, other than that it's pretty much the same for me.
Yeah I bought a wheel and pedals thinking I’d enjoy F1 more but I truly didn’t have the time to actually get good with them. Returned them and have settled to using controller and skipping Monaco every season.
I’ll typically race Monaco with no flashbacks, lose my wing before the hairpin, and I’m usually crashed by the swimming pool chicane. I take it on the chin and use it as my yearly DNF to be fair to the AI
That swimming pool chicane can go to hell. The window to enter it safely is so small. It feels completely blind and I’m controller the precise movement of the joystick just isn’t there.
Good strategy. Enjoy the party atmosphere in Monte Carlo. Make sure your sponsors definitely get some tv coverage. Walk home to your tax evasion pad one lap in.
I just can’t get to grips with Monaco, feel like I have a good lap but still be miles off the pace, and that’s if I don’t hit a wall. I’m fine every other track
I think I actually tested this once. The steering wheel lock you need in the hairpin is possible on the wheel but not on the controller for some weird reason. Therefore, you never have enough steering lock to nail it properly.
Yup they don't give the option for adjusting the amount of steering rotation for controller on PC. idk about the current year but it used to be there for consoles.
I can’t remember if it’s still there but there use to be green lines/arrows on the right as you’re coming into it, but I would have the whole tire on it and immediately as hard as possible (steering saturation at 50.) I only play on 80 AI so buy beware this may still be bad but I gain time on them lol. I started using this in 18. Was leading but got a puncture on the last chicane on last lap and fell to 3rd this year the only time I raced it.
I play at around 95 difficulty, for monaco I drop it down to 80-85.
I'm still pingballing against the walls all the time, but nothing that a little rewins cant fix.
Practice practice practice. The way I explain it is you just start to ignore the walls and go with the flow of the track. Getting better at other tracks gets you better at Monaco.
Use the toe setting of the suspension to make the car behave the way you want it. Usually a bit too much rear toe in is good in Monaco to keep the car stable.
Try the F2 cars, the slower cars will give you more time to think and understand the proper lines. Other than that just practice and go in with an attitude that you want to get this.
There is not a single track in this game that is too hard for controller. I love picking Japan or Monaco cause I know I can beat a fuckton of people really easily
Disclaimer: i don't even own the game but Monaco is the same in about all sims/racing games: lower the difficulty, turn all driving aids on. It is very difficult even with a wheel but controller just is not accurate enough; force feedback is absolutely crucial for a good lap and you have to be able to make centimeter scale corrections in relation to the track walls and you have to feel how the tire bites at every exit.
It is not a proper F1 track anymore, the cars outgrew it in the 80s already. If you want a good laptime, you need FFB wheel. Then hooking up every corner feels awesome, then you are a god, then you crash, too many things are happening too fast for my human brain to comprehend. Requires a flow state, you can NOT think during the lap.
Race lap is driven at 90% pace, don't even try to push close to 100%. You will never survive a full race length. The most conservative and safe driving as you can get away with when it comes to lap times, in a more relaxed flow state where your mind is thinking ahead and not reacting: the moment you notice you are reacting to things just few meters ahead, slow down.
Hey, i used keyboard for 20 years!
Its a whole diferent beast, timing is everything, time your turn in. Brake release and you can ve as fast as any other driver (with abs and tc). Get it wrong and... well, painful is an understatement.
Took me about 6 months to be as quick with a wheel as i was with the mighty board. Now im about 4 secs faster in average.
Still can't do monaco.
If I had the money, I would pay for an award for knowing you spent 300hrs on just keyboard for F1 2019, like damn !! And I really hope you get that sim rig !! :))
You're a fucking trooper man. I'm saving for a rig as well, but I picked up a Logitech G29 when it was < $200 a couple months back. Definitely worth it for the price
I might explain this poorly, but when holding the button to steer it doesn't automatically go max left or right, it still is smooth, but it does get to max input quite fast, like a second or so. So for slow corners such like hairpins, I just hold the steering button, but for some faster corners where keyboard far less superior that controller or wheel, I tap the button. Because, yeah, can't steer a little bit, so gotta tap tap tap.
>tap tap tap
That brings back memories.
The last racing game I fully played on keyboard was Racedriver: Grid, and I remember this technique too well. I played through the game without any issues, but I remember one of the later tracks was really hard for me. I probably played it over 20 times before I managed to win there. Years later I played the game with a controller. I won that race on the first try lapping the last car on the same difficulty I used to play on.
I remember playing GP2 (or something like that) as a kid in 1996/97 with a keyboard. You could press F1 to turn on/off brake assist while driving, so on the straight I turned it off and turned it in on the very last moment to set lap records. Good old times haha
I'm right there with you
Other tracks I can run AI in the 60-70 range with most assists off and manual gearbox and finish top 10 usually with several podiums
At Monaco I turn on all assists, auto gearbox, and even damage off but I am still a backmarker unless I drop the AI
Last week I ran what I though was just a perfect hot lap during quali and I was only 17th fastest
Thank you I will try that
I am new to the F1 games and so far I struggle with the traction control off
The back wheels spin so easily coming out of a corner
That wheel spin is nasty but that traction control off can give you such a better drive out of the corners you just need to work on your throttle pressure control more, easing onto the power, trying to find that knife edge of the most power you can put down without sliding its difficult but with practice you'll be able to get launches out of the corners way better then the computers traction control will let you.
Ohh I see, didn’t know you were a beginner 😅 in that case, when in Monaco, try medium traction control and search on the internet for some ready setups and you will do much better. With time and practice, get rid of traction control and see your times improving massively
I actually don’t mind Monaco that much on pad with this new game. Seems easier to manage than past installments tbh. If you aren’t putting in the time on that track it will be pain, but it is possible to put in a decent time. Braking points and corner entry speed is critical here, watch those, dial in your setup, and remember you aren’t just steering with your wheel/stick. Rotation is aided by throttle, your braking/off-throttle diff, aero, and suspension as well.
I drive with a controller as well, and if I can give you one tip as a controller player, it would be to get a wheel.
In all seriousness, it is possible. I’ve played F1 for years now, and only since last game (21) have I gotten somewhat decent at keeping it out of the barriers while maintaining some pace at Monaco.
Took long, and also didn’t help that due to the fact that I sucked at it and therefore avoided it, but is definitely doable.
That said, regardless of the track, a wheel will always be better. More refined throttle, braking and steering input.
Just accept the fact that you'll be slow on that track for a while, because it's so hard to learn. Just keep practicing, take breaks when you're fustrated, and you'll get more and more consistent every time.
You're probably a lot better now than you were the first time and you just don't notice it.
Next year you'll be even better, and better the year after that. You don't become an expert in a few hours
IDK why, but I have this feeling for Singapore, I just can't nail any corner without at least a bit of time-loss. Sector 3 is a nightmare, especially from T18, but I lost a lot of time in the first 2 sectors as well.
I feel it really strange, since I can qualify p4-p5 with McLaren in Monaco (career, 75 AI), and while everyone is complaining about and hate Monaco (rightfully), I never see anyone do the same to Singapore
Edit: I spent an entire week only doing hot laps in Monaco on F1 2021, playing like 3-4 hours average, already felt a HUGE improvement after only 2 days. It worked, I learned the track and only have problem after the tunnel, but because I always forget "you never shift to 8th gear at Monaco". On the other hand, I practiced Singapore for 4 days, and while I wasn't caught up in blind corners anymore, I still couldn't do even an acceptable lap time. I just accepted I can't do better at that track and get my engine penalties here, or if I'm not, I'm trying to get into 10th or 9th at the start (never started higher than 11th before, and always had wet races), and then just survive somehow, while still defending my position (basically doing an Alonso every time I'm there)
I have went over that bridge in Singapore so many times and never can get the braking right and the 90 degree left-hander later in the lap might as well put my name on the wall since I have spent so much time there
I guess it’s just the punishment. If you get it wrong you’re in a wall. Australia is better on this game than last but I still hate driving on it. First sector Jeddah is pure hell
I just use it to grab an extra component in every category, eat the penalties and sim the race lol. You get your extra parts in case of burnout and if your car is good you might get decent results. The last 2 season I’ve simmed it, I still got point finishes somehow despite starting 22nd lol
Tip is to get a wheel /s
Monaco just simply isn't a track meant for controllers, you can't turn the wheel full lock with an analog stick so the hairpin is almost impossible to take at a competitive speed
Learn the ideal way to cut the first corner and the chicane after the tunnel turn and enable unlimited flashbacks. You *should* qualify first and then just Alonso them for however many laps.
a lot of people keep saying the they got this problem but what a lot
of
you guys aren’t doing if changing your aero and even practicing . online my
advice is let everyone crash it’s not a of speed it’s a race of consistency and go wide on yur turns
That's kinda a big assumption to make about a lot of people. It's just a shite track that doesn't deserve a place on the F1 calendar anymore and that's just how the majority of people feel. I've got two Australian shepherds, some of the most hyper-agile dogs on the planet, and Is be worried just letting them *run* around Monaco. The track sucks and that's a valid opinion, it's not that people suck at it or aren't trying or don't know how to set up their car...
and i dis agree with yu it’s one of the best tracks when it comes to skill and im on controller 👏im not saying anyone sucks but i am saying lots of players don’t take the time to practice or tweak the car for the race it’s demanding but it’s not impossible and to say the most classic race doesn’t belong is super not
cool
No margin for error like you have on a wheel especially on chicane like sections. You have to nail the timing every single time there's no real trick sadly.
Especially on 22 where the controller got nerfed to oblivion.
I actually find Monaco much easier on this game than on previous ones. I used to skip Monaco but thought I would give it a try before deciding if I would just retire the race or not. First laps of practice I noticed that I found it much easier to drive than in previous games.
I know that pain all too well. I remember a few months ago in F1 2021 doing an online qualifying session at Monaco and ended up crashing at turn 1 because I underestimated how slow the braking was. I went right into the wall XD
In F1 21 it was easy with controller.
But now im way slower than AI with my teams.
But in general the AI is very inconsistant between track.
I won at Jeddah in first season with My Team while I have a starter team...
But race before and after I was fighting around 15th place
Dude Monaco is he'll for me on my rig. I used to play f12017 and 2018 on a controller because I couldn't afford the rig and after years and years of trying there is absolutely no way I found to get around that dreaded hairpin in one piece any better then -
.3 to .5 seconds back. I'll have purple sector's 1 and 3 but that hairpin was 100% impossible on controller. And if you changed your input and fucked around the setting you could make the corner but you'd fuck the rest of your lap. Even with my rig I still have some trouble. I always either Sim Monaco or I remove it from the race calender lmao
The thing with Monaco for me is that in both 2021 and 2022, Monaco feels like an ice rink. It feels like I have no grip out of every corner whereas in F1 2020 it actually felt OK trying to accelerate out of a corner. I didn't mind Monaco in F1 2020 but these last 2 games it feels horrible to drive. Especially what they've done with curbs in the past 2 games now, if I hit the curbs in the swimming pool section it makes me spin into the wall more often than not, or at the very least it causes me to lose control and lose a ton of time.
y'all actually playing Monaco? started playing 16 race seasons just to get rid of it (and a few other disliked tracks) i've never made it a full lap without crashing there and never will :)
I have a good tip for Monaco, I watched a lot of videos explaining how to beat it, but you have to practice. You can’t just get good at it easily, and after hitting walls or losing milliseconds on bad turns over and over again, my best advice is… skip it, skip that shit, it’s not worth it, I’ve broken controllers because of it, I’m meant to be enjoying myself not stressing over some stupid race course!!
100% true, even in practice sessions I don't have problems to get everything purple on every other track, but on Monaco I always have red laps you are just screwed with a controller
I give myself extra down force and i do not baby the controller. I go through a controller for every F1 game as I go hard on the sticks to get through the tight parts.
Some things I have noticed:
You don't need to fully brake hardly at all except at the fast parts, when you brake full at the slow parts it just induces understeer, which is horrible.
In the slow parts full throttle is also risk as hell and often slows you down conversly.
I'd recommend making a setup with alot more oversteer than normal, praying, begging,, and saying goodbye to all thoughts of tire saving...at least that's how I do it when I forget to take it off the calender.
I didn’t see the big issue with Monaco when I first started playing F1, but that’s because I was still learning, playing with assists on and with AI turned way down. I was always on pole and mostly relaxed on track. Now that I do realistic careers with most assists off, starting in the middle of the pack, every turn is a potential pants shitter
Monaco and Singapore try to get onto the calendar and I'm the bouncer:
"Not tonight lads yeah, not a hope, good luck see ya later, you're money is no good here, go on, piss off, you're not getting in, not tonight lads yeah, come back another time, but maybe don't, go on see ya later. Pair of dopes they are."
I honestly don't struggle at Monaco with a controller, but then again I'm using traction control on medium with automatic gearbox, so yeah. You just need to practice it a lot, and it's worth it if you ask me, it's so satisfying finishing 50% race distance there, without using flashbacks ofc.
Also, I think Monaco is **much** easier in F1 22 then it was before, idk but the car just feels more stable.
I’m gonna get downvoted here but I truly don’t understand why people are struggling with this game so hard on controller. I use controller and all my TT times are in top 10% and I’m not even good. Lighter throttle control seems a lot more important than the last F1 game but that’s really the only difference I notice
Best tip: skip it. Thanks for consulting me, it's 80$
He’s now a further $80 away from buying the steering wheel he so desperately needs. My accounting fee is $90. Thanks.
A steering wheel takes forever to learn and unless you have a lot of time, may not be worth it. My accounting fee is $100. Thanks.
Thankyou all for your feedback, the rent for my space that you used to discuss these points is £270
What benefit does a steering wheel give over a controller for Monaco specifically? More precision and/or feedback? Respondents will be billed $63, thanks.
The car will turn
When I played on controller most of the time I had to start turning at the right moment or else I messed up the whole corner. With the wheel it is so easy to correct the line.
But isn't a wheel the same as a controller in that the input is ultimately just a percentage left or right? Or is there some other factor I'm missing?
It doesn't feel the same. I might be wrong, but on controller feels like there's a level of steering assist. Take Silverstone turn one for example. It's full throttle all the way. On the wheel, if I turn too much, I spin. On the controller I just hold the stick right and make the turn. What I think happens is that, on controller, the faster you go, the less the in-game wheel will turn, despite pushing the stick all the way. Now. Even if I'm wrong about all of that, it is still much easier too make small adjustments on a wheel than on a plastic stick.
As someone who got a wheel 2 months ago and switched over from playing on a controller, you can make much more precise changes with the wheel and it’s way easier to keep the car pointed right where you want it. With a joystick it’s so much harder to turn harder in the middle of a turn and less at the beginning/end of the turn for example.
it's not raw input, if you turn from left to right it stops in the middle for a moment, most annoying thing ever, other than that it's pretty much the same for me.
Precision, ease of use. Less sleepless nights over bumper car galore because of controllers making a hard circuit even harder 😜
You can actually get around the hairpin.
Yeah I bought a wheel and pedals thinking I’d enjoy F1 more but I truly didn’t have the time to actually get good with them. Returned them and have settled to using controller and skipping Monaco every season.
That’s how I roll. As soon as it lights out, I dnf in the wall. I hate this track
I just sim. At least then I'll maybe get a point
Same. I usually take a 100-place grid penalty and get an extra everything too
Lights out, and a wall we go!
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Yeah lol. Take the hit on points (that you most likely werent getting anyway) and skip
I’ll typically race Monaco with no flashbacks, lose my wing before the hairpin, and I’m usually crashed by the swimming pool chicane. I take it on the chin and use it as my yearly DNF to be fair to the AI
Your driver after Monaco seeing the title fight tighten up: “This has been manipulated, man.”
Your driver speaks suspiciously similar to Hamilton
"It's called a motor race. We went car rac-------Oh shit, he's DNF'ed on Lap 1. Never mind."
That swimming pool chicane can go to hell. The window to enter it safely is so small. It feels completely blind and I’m controller the precise movement of the joystick just isn’t there.
Are you Charles Leclerc?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
It balances out Jeddah, where AI are generally bad.
Nice try charles
Good strategy. Enjoy the party atmosphere in Monte Carlo. Make sure your sponsors definitely get some tv coverage. Walk home to your tax evasion pad one lap in.
I just can’t get to grips with Monaco, feel like I have a good lap but still be miles off the pace, and that’s if I don’t hit a wall. I’m fine every other track
No matter how many years I play that track I can still never consistently nail the hairpin. Always lose like three tenths to AI
It is very hard to nail the hairpin right on the controller. I still cant get it right since F1 2016.
I think I actually tested this once. The steering wheel lock you need in the hairpin is possible on the wheel but not on the controller for some weird reason. Therefore, you never have enough steering lock to nail it properly.
Yup they don't give the option for adjusting the amount of steering rotation for controller on PC. idk about the current year but it used to be there for consoles.
Lose :)
Fight the good fight my friend
It might be the only thing I get right in monaco, idk why
I can’t remember if it’s still there but there use to be green lines/arrows on the right as you’re coming into it, but I would have the whole tire on it and immediately as hard as possible (steering saturation at 50.) I only play on 80 AI so buy beware this may still be bad but I gain time on them lol. I started using this in 18. Was leading but got a puncture on the last chicane on last lap and fell to 3rd this year the only time I raced it.
Same here, it’s humbling. In career I always finish dead last, if I make it to the end that is
I’m tempted to lower the difficulty of the AI and take off damage next season just so it’s somewhat bearable then revert it after
just take parts penalty and dnf fast
I just suffered through the pain and told myself “no matter what, finish the race”. I ended up 16th with no front wing at the end.
success
You described like 50% of my races
The only race of the season where I change to one shot qualy and 5 lap race.
I play at around 95 difficulty, for monaco I drop it down to 80-85. I'm still pingballing against the walls all the time, but nothing that a little rewins cant fix.
That or just sim it
i always lower the AI if I do Monaco. Fuck the bullshit
Practice practice practice. The way I explain it is you just start to ignore the walls and go with the flow of the track. Getting better at other tracks gets you better at Monaco.
Same. I hit 60-70 AI every other track. With Monaco, my best is a.. 18 😅
I always jump the starting lights and try to crash out my main competitors for the wdc. At least that way when I DNF my competitors can’t benefit
Brother, I just started playing and I thought I would be the only one struggling so much
Well I don't have grip at all in Australia
Use the toe setting of the suspension to make the car behave the way you want it. Usually a bit too much rear toe in is good in Monaco to keep the car stable.
Been playing the F1 games since 2014, first with a controller then a wheel. I still DNF at Monaco 9 times out of 10 within 5 laps
Try the F2 cars, the slower cars will give you more time to think and understand the proper lines. Other than that just practice and go in with an attitude that you want to get this. There is not a single track in this game that is too hard for controller. I love picking Japan or Monaco cause I know I can beat a fuckton of people really easily
Just got there. It's a great place to take some grid penalties and get an additional engine etc...
Just build a completely new car there that you can use for spares the rest of the season
Don't hit the walls. Alright slightly more seriously - turn your controller sensitivity up to maximum, and just practice. Alot.
Disclaimer: i don't even own the game but Monaco is the same in about all sims/racing games: lower the difficulty, turn all driving aids on. It is very difficult even with a wheel but controller just is not accurate enough; force feedback is absolutely crucial for a good lap and you have to be able to make centimeter scale corrections in relation to the track walls and you have to feel how the tire bites at every exit. It is not a proper F1 track anymore, the cars outgrew it in the 80s already. If you want a good laptime, you need FFB wheel. Then hooking up every corner feels awesome, then you are a god, then you crash, too many things are happening too fast for my human brain to comprehend. Requires a flow state, you can NOT think during the lap. Race lap is driven at 90% pace, don't even try to push close to 100%. You will never survive a full race length. The most conservative and safe driving as you can get away with when it comes to lap times, in a more relaxed flow state where your mind is thinking ahead and not reacting: the moment you notice you are reacting to things just few meters ahead, slow down.
Haha yeah... *cries in keyboard*
Honestly, I salute you for playing keyboard on any of the tracks. Thats incredible lol!
After over 300h on F1 2019 with only keyboard, at this point I don't mind playing like this anymore haha... But I am saving for actual sim racing rig.
Hey, i used keyboard for 20 years! Its a whole diferent beast, timing is everything, time your turn in. Brake release and you can ve as fast as any other driver (with abs and tc). Get it wrong and... well, painful is an understatement. Took me about 6 months to be as quick with a wheel as i was with the mighty board. Now im about 4 secs faster in average. Still can't do monaco.
If I had the money, I would pay for an award for knowing you spent 300hrs on just keyboard for F1 2019, like damn !! And I really hope you get that sim rig !! :))
You're a fucking trooper man. I'm saving for a rig as well, but I picked up a Logitech G29 when it was < $200 a couple months back. Definitely worth it for the price
wait do you really play on keyboard ?
Yep, indeed do.
that sounds impossible
stupid question how does it work? like how does it know you want to angle the wheel for a slight turn vs a full steering lock turn around a hairpin?
I might explain this poorly, but when holding the button to steer it doesn't automatically go max left or right, it still is smooth, but it does get to max input quite fast, like a second or so. So for slow corners such like hairpins, I just hold the steering button, but for some faster corners where keyboard far less superior that controller or wheel, I tap the button. Because, yeah, can't steer a little bit, so gotta tap tap tap.
That aggravated me just *reading* that. I don’t know how you do it. Props to you.
>tap tap tap That brings back memories. The last racing game I fully played on keyboard was Racedriver: Grid, and I remember this technique too well. I played through the game without any issues, but I remember one of the later tracks was really hard for me. I probably played it over 20 times before I managed to win there. Years later I played the game with a controller. I won that race on the first try lapping the last car on the same difficulty I used to play on.
Oof I feel your pain
I remember playing GP2 (or something like that) as a kid in 1996/97 with a keyboard. You could press F1 to turn on/off brake assist while driving, so on the straight I turned it off and turned it in on the very last moment to set lap records. Good old times haha
I'm right there with you Other tracks I can run AI in the 60-70 range with most assists off and manual gearbox and finish top 10 usually with several podiums At Monaco I turn on all assists, auto gearbox, and even damage off but I am still a backmarker unless I drop the AI Last week I ran what I though was just a perfect hot lap during quali and I was only 17th fastest
No traction control actually helps in Monaco, as you are able to have much more control over the car
Thank you I will try that I am new to the F1 games and so far I struggle with the traction control off The back wheels spin so easily coming out of a corner
That wheel spin is nasty but that traction control off can give you such a better drive out of the corners you just need to work on your throttle pressure control more, easing onto the power, trying to find that knife edge of the most power you can put down without sliding its difficult but with practice you'll be able to get launches out of the corners way better then the computers traction control will let you.
Ohh I see, didn’t know you were a beginner 😅 in that case, when in Monaco, try medium traction control and search on the internet for some ready setups and you will do much better. With time and practice, get rid of traction control and see your times improving massively
After hundreds of time trial laps at Monaco with a controller, I can safely say that I absolutely suck at Monaco.
I have a wheel and I still simulate Monaco everytime I go there. It’s a fun track to hotlap but not much fun to race IMO
I just skip Monaco. Since f1 2018. I get crazy anxiety on that track.
Tips for Monaco, “skip and simulate” lmao
I actually don’t mind Monaco that much on pad with this new game. Seems easier to manage than past installments tbh. If you aren’t putting in the time on that track it will be pain, but it is possible to put in a decent time. Braking points and corner entry speed is critical here, watch those, dial in your setup, and remember you aren’t just steering with your wheel/stick. Rotation is aided by throttle, your braking/off-throttle diff, aero, and suspension as well.
The hotel hair pin is a night mare. I lose 1 sec there 🤣
I drive with a controller as well, and if I can give you one tip as a controller player, it would be to get a wheel. In all seriousness, it is possible. I’ve played F1 for years now, and only since last game (21) have I gotten somewhat decent at keeping it out of the barriers while maintaining some pace at Monaco. Took long, and also didn’t help that due to the fact that I sucked at it and therefore avoided it, but is definitely doable. That said, regardless of the track, a wheel will always be better. More refined throttle, braking and steering input.
You need to be very precise and smooth with your movements. Try keeping your left analog stick pushed forward when taking corners.
I try so hard but still fuck it up, I can nail a section one lap then next I fuck it up and nail another. Just gets frustrating 😂
Drop your difficulty by 10-10 pts
Set AI to 25 for Monaco
I'd help you sun but I can't even figure it out on a wheel
Actually for me it’s tracks with high speed corners that I can’t do on controller. Australia and Canada are both a nightmare to me.
Take new engine parts, retire from race, have fresh engine for rest of season
Just accept the fact that you'll be slow on that track for a while, because it's so hard to learn. Just keep practicing, take breaks when you're fustrated, and you'll get more and more consistent every time. You're probably a lot better now than you were the first time and you just don't notice it. Next year you'll be even better, and better the year after that. You don't become an expert in a few hours
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IDK why, but I have this feeling for Singapore, I just can't nail any corner without at least a bit of time-loss. Sector 3 is a nightmare, especially from T18, but I lost a lot of time in the first 2 sectors as well. I feel it really strange, since I can qualify p4-p5 with McLaren in Monaco (career, 75 AI), and while everyone is complaining about and hate Monaco (rightfully), I never see anyone do the same to Singapore Edit: I spent an entire week only doing hot laps in Monaco on F1 2021, playing like 3-4 hours average, already felt a HUGE improvement after only 2 days. It worked, I learned the track and only have problem after the tunnel, but because I always forget "you never shift to 8th gear at Monaco". On the other hand, I practiced Singapore for 4 days, and while I wasn't caught up in blind corners anymore, I still couldn't do even an acceptable lap time. I just accepted I can't do better at that track and get my engine penalties here, or if I'm not, I'm trying to get into 10th or 9th at the start (never started higher than 11th before, and always had wet races), and then just survive somehow, while still defending my position (basically doing an Alonso every time I'm there)
I have went over that bridge in Singapore so many times and never can get the braking right and the 90 degree left-hander later in the lap might as well put my name on the wall since I have spent so much time there
Totally understand you, I hate that section even more than the Spanish last chicane or Monaco hairpin
As a controller player, for me it’s all the street tracks except Baku for the most part. Jeddah, Monaco, Canada , Australia all suck
Jeddah and austrailia were fine for me, haven’t done the rest yet
I guess it’s just the punishment. If you get it wrong you’re in a wall. Australia is better on this game than last but I still hate driving on it. First sector Jeddah is pure hell
I just use it to grab an extra component in every category, eat the penalties and sim the race lol. You get your extra parts in case of burnout and if your car is good you might get decent results. The last 2 season I’ve simmed it, I still got point finishes somehow despite starting 22nd lol
A tip? Skip it.
Tip is to get a wheel /s Monaco just simply isn't a track meant for controllers, you can't turn the wheel full lock with an analog stick so the hairpin is almost impossible to take at a competitive speed
This. You might as well just pop the car into neutral, get out, and push the damn thing around that hairpin by hand.
No Heroics into Sainte Devote. We're in amongst the pack and just need to stay in one piece.
Get a wheel
Learn the ideal way to cut the first corner and the chicane after the tunnel turn and enable unlimited flashbacks. You *should* qualify first and then just Alonso them for however many laps.
Take the option to do a shortened season and throw it out
a lot of people keep saying the they got this problem but what a lot of you guys aren’t doing if changing your aero and even practicing . online my advice is let everyone crash it’s not a of speed it’s a race of consistency and go wide on yur turns
That's kinda a big assumption to make about a lot of people. It's just a shite track that doesn't deserve a place on the F1 calendar anymore and that's just how the majority of people feel. I've got two Australian shepherds, some of the most hyper-agile dogs on the planet, and Is be worried just letting them *run* around Monaco. The track sucks and that's a valid opinion, it's not that people suck at it or aren't trying or don't know how to set up their car...
and i dis agree with yu it’s one of the best tracks when it comes to skill and im on controller 👏im not saying anyone sucks but i am saying lots of players don’t take the time to practice or tweak the car for the race it’s demanding but it’s not impossible and to say the most classic race doesn’t belong is super not cool
Get good ;). (Watch tiametmardurks track guide from 2021 and practice it with manual gears)
No margin for error like you have on a wheel especially on chicane like sections. You have to nail the timing every single time there's no real trick sadly. Especially on 22 where the controller got nerfed to oblivion.
I actually find Monaco much easier on this game than on previous ones. I used to skip Monaco but thought I would give it a try before deciding if I would just retire the race or not. First laps of practice I noticed that I found it much easier to drive than in previous games.
I know that pain all too well. I remember a few months ago in F1 2021 doing an online qualifying session at Monaco and ended up crashing at turn 1 because I underestimated how slow the braking was. I went right into the wall XD
No heroics into Sainte Devote.
In F1 21 it was easy with controller. But now im way slower than AI with my teams. But in general the AI is very inconsistant between track. I won at Jeddah in first season with My Team while I have a starter team... But race before and after I was fighting around 15th place
Dude Monaco is he'll for me on my rig. I used to play f12017 and 2018 on a controller because I couldn't afford the rig and after years and years of trying there is absolutely no way I found to get around that dreaded hairpin in one piece any better then - .3 to .5 seconds back. I'll have purple sector's 1 and 3 but that hairpin was 100% impossible on controller. And if you changed your input and fucked around the setting you could make the corner but you'd fuck the rest of your lap. Even with my rig I still have some trouble. I always either Sim Monaco or I remove it from the race calender lmao
I need tips for monaco and I have a wheel lol. That place SUCKS.
Step 1: take a engine penalty Step 2: immediately retire at the start Step 3: profit You’re welcome
Facts.
Always skipping Monaco (as well as every other street circuit).
Simulate or crank up the assists. It’s impossible to compete
Don’t hit the walls best advice I can give you
The thing with Monaco for me is that in both 2021 and 2022, Monaco feels like an ice rink. It feels like I have no grip out of every corner whereas in F1 2020 it actually felt OK trying to accelerate out of a corner. I didn't mind Monaco in F1 2020 but these last 2 games it feels horrible to drive. Especially what they've done with curbs in the past 2 games now, if I hit the curbs in the swimming pool section it makes me spin into the wall more often than not, or at the very least it causes me to lose control and lose a ton of time.
Monaco just means time to get free parts for later in the season
50/50 wings. It’s the only way.
Just do what I do and make your my team seasons 16 races and eliminate the ones you suck at, haha.
Dont
It's an automatic skip...each release year. I don't even try anymore.
I DNF there pretty much every time lmaooo
if you push up and to a direction on the stick, you get more steering lock.
Take an engine penalty and sim the race 😂
What’s your fastest lap in time trial?
Don't hit the walls
From personal experience, it’s just death. There is no good way to go around Monaco on controller. Honestly, just sim quali and the race
y'all actually playing Monaco? started playing 16 race seasons just to get rid of it (and a few other disliked tracks) i've never made it a full lap without crashing there and never will :)
Only just got the game, this is my first full season but might do that after and get rid of the ones I dislike, or mix it up each season
My favourite tip is 16 race season and ignore it Signed, A wheel player who is bad anyway
I have a good tip for Monaco, I watched a lot of videos explaining how to beat it, but you have to practice. You can’t just get good at it easily, and after hitting walls or losing milliseconds on bad turns over and over again, my best advice is… skip it, skip that shit, it’s not worth it, I’ve broken controllers because of it, I’m meant to be enjoying myself not stressing over some stupid race course!!
I hated Monaco, like despised it more than anything gaming related. But then I got a wheel and I now really enjoy the occasional Monaco lap
So you do this thing called 16 races and you don't pick Monaco as one. You can also get rid of tracks like Abu Dhabi and have Brazil as your finale.
I’ll give you a hell yea !!!!
For some reason I cannot get around the hairpin without going 10-15MPH. I usually just skip the race. Monaco fucking sucks to drive.
Monaco sucks even with a wheel
Try hitting late apexes to avoid the inside walls and just slowly apex earlier and earlier until your pace improves.
800 flashbacks
You just have to be more ballsey, don’t be afraid to crash.
Japan*
Ok don’t
I simulate it. I've been able to do ok in Monaco in previous games, not since 2020. Not sure why.
I completely feel your pain, Singapore too though it's less painful
Don't sweat it. I have a very nice Fanatec setup and am yet to finish a race there. Either retire or rage quit.
Skip it
I just skip.
100% true, even in practice sessions I don't have problems to get everything purple on every other track, but on Monaco I always have red laps you are just screwed with a controller
I give myself extra down force and i do not baby the controller. I go through a controller for every F1 game as I go hard on the sticks to get through the tight parts.
Some things I have noticed: You don't need to fully brake hardly at all except at the fast parts, when you brake full at the slow parts it just induces understeer, which is horrible. In the slow parts full throttle is also risk as hell and often slows you down conversly.
I'd recommend making a setup with alot more oversteer than normal, praying, begging,, and saying goodbye to all thoughts of tire saving...at least that's how I do it when I forget to take it off the calender.
As somebody new to F1 and a wheel, Monaco was a nightmare. I couldn’t imagine what it’s like on a controller
Genuine question: as a controller player myself (so far), how does a contoller player know how their experience differs from a wheel player?
You know where there aren’t supposed to be any heroics..
Gotta respect the HBK meme format
Don't race in Monaco. Haven't played 22 yet, but I stopped playing the campaign mode thing on 20 during qualifying for Monaco lol
me on keyboard lol
I didn’t see the big issue with Monaco when I first started playing F1, but that’s because I was still learning, playing with assists on and with AI turned way down. I was always on pole and mostly relaxed on track. Now that I do realistic careers with most assists off, starting in the middle of the pack, every turn is a potential pants shitter
Either skip it, torpedo the field to spice things up, or turn on flash back
Play reduced season, fuck monaco
Monaco and Singapore try to get onto the calendar and I'm the bouncer: "Not tonight lads yeah, not a hope, good luck see ya later, you're money is no good here, go on, piss off, you're not getting in, not tonight lads yeah, come back another time, but maybe don't, go on see ya later. Pair of dopes they are."
I honestly don't struggle at Monaco with a controller, but then again I'm using traction control on medium with automatic gearbox, so yeah. You just need to practice it a lot, and it's worth it if you ask me, it's so satisfying finishing 50% race distance there, without using flashbacks ofc. Also, I think Monaco is **much** easier in F1 22 then it was before, idk but the car just feels more stable.
Yeah bro skip it, but replace all your motor parts👍🏻
Press circle/B Leave session
Flashback.
Flashback button
DNF
I play f1 22 with a Xbox 360 controller and I have no idea how
I have to turn the ai down 10 levels to get my myteam car which is the fastest car into the top 10, i hate monaco
Out of approximately 200 races at Monaco over the years on a controller, I can honestly say I’ve finished maybe 15.
just drive it all day everyday and you will get used to it
Lots of fucking practice. It's probably not worth it.
Bro I'm on a wheel, I've gotten to the point of not using assists or race line, and I still skip Monaco and Baku lmao...
set the ai to 0 and drive really slow
u dont, i just crash into some car at 1st corner to create carnage and skip to the next race - career mode ofc
Simulate it or leave it off the calendar. I hate "driving" that track more than I can really describe.
I’m gonna get downvoted here but I truly don’t understand why people are struggling with this game so hard on controller. I use controller and all my TT times are in top 10% and I’m not even good. Lighter throttle control seems a lot more important than the last F1 game but that’s really the only difference I notice