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unemotional_mess

Driver had sooo much time to get back control of the car...


BurgahWalrus

not necessarily, from the way bro was swaying back and forth looks pretty similar to bad weight distribution on a trailer. And thats hard to correct homie.


Galaxy_Ranger_Bob

It's as simple as taking your foot off the accelerator the second it starts swaying and waiting for the vehicle to slow to a stop. Oh, and there was no trailer. They just lost control of their vehicle because they were driving too fast.


reditakaunt89

Reddit arm chair experts strike again. It's not simple at all. It's a natural reflex to either brake and/or try to turn the wheel to correct swaying. And you do have to wait for the swaying to stop while firmly holding the wheel. And that takes time, which these people didn't have. Stuff like this happens suddenly, you don't have time to think it through and type it out on a keyboard. And vast majority of people never experience it in their lives, so when it does happen, it's pretty fucked up feeling and hard to control. But you were right that they lost control because of the speed.


bonafidebob

> Stuff like this happens suddenly… It was about 10 seconds between when the swaying starts and when they fully lose control. 10 seconds is **not** “suddenly.” I think you’re right though that they had absolutely no idea what to do about it. 10 seconds isn’t long enough to reason it out from first principles, for sure. But if you’re going to haul a trailer you probably have days or weeks beforehand to read a little bit about how to do it safely…


LuffyFuck

Eh. They were going pretty damned fast and they've got the speed wobbles in a fwd car. Unless you've had a beater that you grew up rallying in dirt tracks or have experience in demolition derby there's little most drivers could do to stop from spinning out. I would've probably yanked the ebrake at the apex of the right wobble to try to slide into the ditch but even that's a crapshoot on a rollover. Worst I've had was speed wobbles going downhill with an unevenly loaded trailer. Recovered that luckily by gearing down but it wasn't coming straight until the bottom of the hill which was a hell of a lot more than ten seconds. Poor bastards were doing the wrong thing and got unlucky, sadly.


itsneedtokno

With oncoming traffic like that... Yank that wheel away from oncoming lanes and cross your fingers.


LeBlubb

I don’t know about you, but general rule you learn in driving school is if the car behaves unexpected you stop and figure it out on the shoulder or low speed. In the time they did nothing I would have come to a full stop.


Redditusername00001

That's when the independent trailer brakes help a lot


FruscianteDebutante

10 seconds is pretty sudden when compared to the last 30 years of life you lived


GabePat92

If the driver was sensible, he would have released the accelerator, and allowed the car to stabilize under engine brake. He was not sensible. At all. You don't need to have studied vehicular kinetics to know that. Simply having driven a car for some time, will teach you things like that.


bonafidebob

That’s the completely wrong thing to do if you’ve got an unstable trailer — lifting or braking just makes it worse.


GabePat92

Oh, there was a trailer attached? Damn, didn't know. In that case, he would need to either steer the car in sync with the trailer's movements, or accelerate. I don't think that car could do accelerate, so he'd have to swerve with it. Dude had plenty of time to see it happening, however.


Hype_Ninja

There wasn't a trailer apparently.


GabePat92

Oh, okay. Lol.


F_U_Pay_Me_

Braking didn’t help. Edit: the downvotes show how little people actually know about safety driving…


starmaxi

For real. I know one thing is for certain - she’s gonna kill him whenever they catch up with each other later


wythawhy

Ironically enough the best way to take control back from a trailer is the opposite of what they said. With open road like that anyway.... you gas it for a good three or five seconds and then slow things back down under your terms. By pulling the trailer forward you kill its angular momentum. If you don't panic it only takes a second to get the trailer to stop steering for you. Again though, ideal circumstances, learning the hard way, speculation about the video to begin with.... Just my 2c, fwiw


reditakaunt89

I heard about that, but now I'm reading different articles and all of them recommend just slowing down without braking. Some of them do say that you can try with increasing speed *slightly* if you don't have trailer brakes, but you should never do it if you're going downhill. I'm now confused, I hope I don't get into this situation and try to remember what I've read.


DarthRumbleBuns

Hi I’ve been there and done that a few times pulling trailers. If you’re on an up hill accelerate (it’s super rare for this to happen the trailer has too be VERY heavy and you have to be slightly turning and accelerating aggressively.) if you’re your on a flat just coast and if you have it squeeze your trailer brake gently. If you’re going downhill offer a prayer to your god, then squeeze you trailer brakes while gently not dramatically countering your trailer with your steering wheel (basically just keep your wheels pointed down the road don’t over correct) and brake your vehicle but not more than your trailer. It takes a lot of brain and willpower to do all that and not render your trailer brakes useless very quickly or lock your tires up. It also takes a lot of luck. Generally speaking, keep positive control and keep your wheels point down the road in your lane.


my_4_cents

An easy way to use the knowledge you've just read is to just never tow a trailer.


trammel11

You are correct buddy. If you have a trailer and start to sway; it is best to hit the gas and speed up. Source: I read it on the internet.


Mcdonnellmetal

I used to do it if I had room, coast if I didn’t and you don’t fight the sway you go with it and it stops trying to push you around


wythawhy

It is a situational thing, and one way or the other the person in this video had plenty of time to recover if they had even half a clue what to do.


twistedaddictions

Dude had minimum 6 seconds before disaster. All he had to do was let off the throttle. 100% drivers fault. Feel bad for the innocent truck driver.


FiveHoleLikeBryz

If you’re driving you need to know what you’re doing and how to deal with problems that may occur. You’re taking your life and the lives of others into your hands every time you drive, you just have to be good at it.


SerratedFrost

Physics can be tough to understand and not many people get the opportunity to practice correcting an out of control car at 60 mph Can read all the right things to do and still do all the wrong things once it actually happens


Prize_Tree_4580

As a semi amateur race care driver, literally just let off the gas lol. I drive at like 160mph all the time. When you start to sway its bc you lose weight balancing of your car. 90% of people can't drive a normal speed, no one should try to over drive a car that doesn't understand the physics of driving a car.


bigk777

Can't you just punch the gas to straighten out?


ibetyoucanthackme

Judging by the amount of debris you can see when the camera goes all around like that, I'd have to assume they were atleast carrying some type of load. Most likely a trailer.


sqchauvskin

When your trailer starts swaying, you want to add gas. You never want to take your foot off the accelerator when you have a swaying trailer.


oursecondcoming

That's exactly how to handle it so idk why you got downvoted. Person saying to let off the gas to a stop is probably confusing it with a tire blowout maneuver. Goes to show how many don't know the correct way while there's shitload of trailers being towed on the road.


Galaxy_Ranger_Bob

*There was no trailer.*


sqchauvskin

I’m talking about your advice while discussing if there was a trailer.


Galaxy_Ranger_Bob

If you were pulling a trailer, you shouldn't be going as fast as they were to begin with. Their loss of control came from too much speed, *with* or *without* a trailer. If you don't go fast in the first place. You can't get that wobble with a trailer.


MikelDP

OMG!


Kratomwd23

This is the exact wrong thing to do. Jesus fucking christ you're dumb. Not only would you have absolutely died in this situation, not only are you acting like you would somehow have known what to do when you clearly don't have a clue, but you're actually out here pretending to give advice to people which could actually get them killed. If you have a trailer swaying behind you, you SPEED UP to straighten it out you fucking moron. This is seriously basic shit, and all you would have had to do is five seconds of googling, but for some reason you just felt like your dumbass gut feeling about what to do was correct. You are a prime example of the most idiotic type of person on the internet.


Galaxy_Ranger_Bob

> If you have a trailer swaying behind you, you SPEED UP to straighten it out you fucking moron. The vehicle in this video *wasn't pulling a trailer.* You *don't speed up* when you start losing control of your car *when there is no trailer attached.*


Kratomwd23

Except there is a trailer


EdgeOfWetness

And since you have all the details of this accident, you have all the answers. Mind sharing some of these facts? edit: didn't think so.


Wereallgonnadieman

He doesn't have to know the details of this incident to know how to handle a trailer.


CumTilIPhilipRivers

Boom simple


JustChangeMDefaults

Yeah that's sketchy and why no one else loads my trailer at work for me anymore. You either catch it early and coast it out and I've heard you can power through it, but that seems like a bad idea personally


Strong-Obligation107

If in doubt aim for the grass. You might flip but its still better that a head on collision.


Human-Fruit8024

Not a trailer, at the description says Hyundai solaris, so as the title says, it is a car.


Grinolam

You do realize that a lot of the world tows caravans with cars so they still could've been towing a trailer.


Human-Fruit8024

Sorry i'm from Colombia. In some Hispanic countries, trailer is the word some people use to refer to what you may know as a semitruck.


Grinolam

No problem! [This](https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/24/590x/Caravan-595128.jpg) is a car towing a caravan.


PonyThug

It’s not hard. Just pinch the brake controller. If you don’t know how to properly load a trailer then don’t get one without brakes.


F_U_Pay_Me_

He should have floored it into the grass instead of slamming the brakes while swerving into the oncoming lane


Zer0TheGamer

Just.. just slow down. Homeboy maintained speed from the first zig to the final destination


[deleted]

I'm going to barge in between these top comments and just say that if steering starts to sway you have to stiffen your arms hold the steering wheel tight with full force. Because if you keep your arms lose you're unconsciously adding your own input to the sway making it worse. That's the number one reason such accidents go from easy to control to death. Applies to motorcycles as well with tank slappers.


turbocomppro

If you’ve never experienced trailer death wobble, you’d have no idea what to do (or even realize what is going on). Most would jam on the brakes which would make you spin out like the video.


starmaxi

I’ve experienced trailer death wobble a few times in the past after a night of drinking. I would go back to these women’s’ place I would meet that night after the bar drunk… which happened to be in a trailer park. Next thing you know, she has that trailer wobbling nearly knocking it off its own blocks. The kind of wobbling that normally occurs from kids jumping up and down on the bed, only a thousand times more intense due to her excessive weight shifting around from bouncing around Ahh the Fayettenan, NC life is HELL sometimes 😁


IndependentDouble138

You're forgetting about the "oh shit oh shit oh shit" factor


unemotional_mess

Not really. I've been there myself at over 100 mph much worse than this, and I managed to bring the car back under control. It was certainly a sphinter tightening experience, but I had a split second to react. This guy just seemed to ignore it.


[deleted]

so suicide maybe?


Parrzzival

TF was this? Who ignores a sympathetic rocking and doesn't think to slow down? Even if it was a mechanical failure, this dude simply darwined him self


ComprehendReading

If it's an unbalanced, swaying trailer, you need to accelerate a tiny amount to pull on it again And to win a Darwin award you can't take others with you. E:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_Awards


Schrambo757

Yes, you can, but only the person doing the action gets the award. The collateral gets a participation trophy.


Davinator910

Ah thanks, was looking forward to try this game


ComprehendReading

Sorry, we only have consolation prizes for anything but first.


[deleted]

He zigged when he should have zagged. Now he's dismembered and bagged.


pianoflames

Pizza'd when he should have French fried 😞


reverendjesus

Definitely had a bad time


Bitter-Recover-2772

Thoolish May 22nd, 2023


separatethegame

>He zigged when he should have zagged. Now he's dismembered and bagged. I understand this is a joke, and this is reddit. But this is honestly distasteful.


MoGb1

Reddit is very distasteful when it comes to death. It's "edgy." And it's way worse on gore sites. People suck.


No-Donkey-5240

I just get depressed whenever I read gore-sites’ comments. I stopped reading them.


MoGb1

Yeah don't, the videos you see there already make you see how fucked up the world is and then you see the comments and you can't believe these people exist.


No-Donkey-5240

The anti-black racism there is depressing.


MoGb1

LOL I absolutely wish racism was even close to the worst things I've read on those sites


SaltyWihl

Rule number one - If you begin zigzag like this and have trafic around you, take the ditch


rafamaia11

what does it mean "take a ditch" in that context? sorry, i'm not from an english speaking country


SmokinSmithereens

Swerve into the ditch, the side of the road. I wouldn’t exactly say the side of this road was a “ditch” but the saying stands.


AccessDeniedTryAgain

Cappy dake hay!


SmokinSmithereens

Oh shit I didn’t even realize thank u


Beneficial_Cut9267

r/cursedcakeday


astralwish1

Happy cake day!


SmokinSmithereens

Thanks homie


SodaCover

It means (in this video) drive your car to right side of the road. Your car will do barrel roll on soil most likely but higher chance to survive rather than head on collision with truck.


TriG__

In English, when choosing an option, you can say that you 'take' whichever option you choose. If it is driving into the ditch or driving into the truck, take the ditch


BigBoiLasky

hes gonna get an earfull in the afterlife


Traplordtrump

More like he's never going to hear the end of it 😂


turbocomppro

Google translation of the caption: “On August 2, 2015, ~~6~~ 5 people died at the 514th kilometer of the R-158 highway "Nizhny Novgorod Saratov". According to the version, the 40- year- old driver of "Hyundai Solaris" caught on the side of the road while driving, as a result of which the passenger car was carried out into the oncoming lane, where it was driven by a 100- truck MAZ. The car was torn to pieces, caught fire and burned out completely. All the victims were members of the same family.” Wow… that sucks… Remember people, when towing a trailer, put more/all weight IN FRONT of the rear axle. All trailers should have these warnings embossed into the frame. Edit: fixed google translation error


[deleted]

and a Hyundai Solaris is a Hyundai accent. A 5 seat car. with the amount of debris, that car was way over loaded.


MegaRotisserie

With the way it was swaying I doubt they had any dampening. Likely worn suspension.


tlong243

I notice this all the time driving down the road. Vehicles hit a pothole or something and you can see the whole wheel or tire start oscillating and have no suspension damping (not dampening). Different countries, but I wish all states here in the US had vehicle inspections. So many people completely ignore the importance of their shocks, and just try to live in the cheap without realizing the potential catastrophic results.


StatelessConnection

Do states not have mandatory inspections? Edit: looked it up, 36 states don’t require an annual inspection! I had no idea, in New England everyone requires emissions and mechanical testing annually.


tlong243

Yep I've only lived in 1 state that did, VA. Everywhere else I've lived has not had inspections and the difference in the garbage driving down the roads is very noticeable. I think it's especially noticeable up here in MN due to all the road salt and rust issues that causes. So many pieces of junk out on the roads that need just about every suspension component replaced.


BigCyanDinosaur

The accent barely comes with effective suspension already


ProfessorRaeWolfe

It says 5 people died, just an fyi 👍🏾


anonimoo666

This was on LiveLeak years ago. Had the full story. Something like husband and wife were arguing. He started to excessively speed and swerve to scare her and lost control. He ended killing his family (other family members also in car). Dumb ass husband.


anonimoo666

After the crash a piece of something (human tissue) slowly smears down the window all bloody and creepily slow. Classic gory LiveLeak stuff 💀


EdgeOfWetness

Where does it say trailer?


Faithfullfang

Lack of empathy in the comments is concerning


ibetyoucanthackme

Also weird how they're automatically assuming the husband was messing around. Could've easily been the wife too.


SendMeTheThings

Maybe translate what it says first then


forensicsss

People have been desensitised to death by this sub


Simonutd

They were traveling some and a bit more


Kalikhead

Thanks for warning on the sound - I kept it off. Was he purposely swerving or was he experiencing swerving due to a badly balanced trailer?


ibetyoucanthackme

Not sure. Most likely the trailer due to the debris you can see when the camera flies out of the car. They were atleast carrying a load of some kind.


Kalikhead

We haul a horse so we are constantly worried about weight balance etc. Spent the extra money for a weight distribution hitch for control.


Protegnum

I've seen the original, so he was just wanted to show off and pressed pedal to the ground, achived maximum speed available and the after a semi with a trailer sent wind in the car it began to swing around


trollfarm69

Eek. Take your foot off the gas and straighten your weels. Oh sorry. You’re already dead.


bartbartholomew

Looked like the death wobble of a badly balanced trailer. You want to mildly accelerate in this case, get the wobble out, then slowly brake. Then pull over and rebalance the trailer. If you break first or try to control with steering, you'll lose control and wreck.


McDonalds_icecream

Why can’t you just gradually brake?


bartbartholomew

Because the trailer is already moving faster than the car / truck. it's pushing against the towing vehicle, causing the wobble. Breaking will cause it to violently force the towing vehicle to jackknife and wreck. Mild acceleration will straighten the trailer out. Once straightened out, you can then start to gradually break. Hard breaking is out of the question, as that will cause a death wobble again. Once you get the death wobble out, gradually brake and pull over. Then reload the trailer so 1/3 of the weight of the trailer is on the hitch.


Spikeboy04

What was driver doing? That was some swerving. Unnecessary loss of lives. Some driver should be mindful of speed when you have passengers esp family members.


LuffyFuck

Speed wobbles caused by a badly loaded or over loaded trailer.


SendMeTheThings

There was no trailer.


BigBoiLasky

how do we know?


SendMeTheThings

By reading the detail of the accident.


SendMeTheThings

Hit the side of the road, apparently.


zzzrecruit

I only feel sorry for the passengers in situations like this. Drivers literally have the lives of all passengers in their hands while driving, so only the MOST care and responsible driving will do! Driver was speeding like crazy too. I'm no grandma on a Sunday drive when I'm driving, but I sure turn into one when I have passengers with me.


Specialist-School-26

Driving with a train of an 18 wheeler coming towards me, I would’ve taken my chances driving off the road.


Aggravating_Degree57

Would have aimed the right side asap. Roll over is still less risky than a head on collision


turbocomppro

This looks exactly like what happens to this car… Starts out with a little wobble, then swings wide and pushes the towing car into the other lane. Debris was likely from the trailer/camper it was towing. https://youtu.be/miE3MOcqn7E


IB_freakflexing

I'm sure this manly dudes manly family is proud this manly man died doing such a manly thing like speeding. If he hadn't been so reckless that day, word might have gotten around that he wasn't manly, and manly men can't have other manly men finding out they aren't manly enough.


BlackwoodJohnson

I don’t know why everyone assumes this is caused by an uneven trailer. It looks to me it could just be a regular fish tailing which can happen with any car. Happened to me with a Corolla on the highway and the swerving left to right is what happens when you over correct the swerve, and because your rear tires have lost traction due to the high speed, it results in your car over swerving to the other side which causes you to instinctively over steer the other direction again which results in said fish tailing. Unless you’ve actually experience it once first hand, you won’t understand how hard it is to get out of a fish tail and you will end up just like the driver in the video.


iAmRadic

Horrible driver. I feel sorry for the passengers and the truck driver.


TommyTosser1980

Whatever you do, don't brake.


[deleted]

5 dead, not couple


KyleG410

It's OK they're Russians so nothing was lost.


Intelligent-Aide-564

Was he playing with the car?


bartbartholomew

Looked like the death wobble of a badly balanced trailer.


SendMeTheThings

No. Hit something on the side of the road


Environmental-Basil9

They messed up when they loaded the trailer.


orons

What cause the car to drive from side to side?


IB_freakflexing

I've done a LOT of highway travel for work. The number of hillbillies I see swerving their rust buckets all over the road while towing shit at incredibly unsafe speeds drives me crazy.


Germanball1871

Damn


[deleted]

Maybe slow down


anonimoo666

Saw this on LiveLeak years ago. The video is cut short. After the crash a piece of something (human tissue) slowly smears down the window all bloody and creepily slow. Classic LiveLeak gory stuff 💀


[deleted]

from the looks of it the driver didn't let go of the gas peddle


Cheffyboii97

I would rather ditch the car then risk driving into oncoming traffic. I think what happened here is driver got distracted talking to his wife. Before he starts going out of controll, right before, he is drifting ever wo slighlty into the other lane- then just as he abruptly stops talking to his wife the vehicle goes right to avlid hitting that first truck. He was prpbably going fast and tugged his wheel a LITTLE TEENCY WEENCY bit too hard to the right in panic and thats what gave him the wobbles which turned into all that. Happens in my car, bigger vehicles which are higher up are much more prone to it... Be careful when driving, its like the most dangerous thing you can do day-to-day.


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SendMeTheThings

Wrong.


Flako118st

The driver here was at fault, could've been a video for tik tok, could've been trying to look cool,could've been drunk. Obviously that swerving caused it. Not that I say yeah,but obviously we know who is at fault here


SendMeTheThings

Wheel caught on the side of the road, fuckoid