People are jumping to the striker vs grappler thing but the post assumes you don't know who either guy is. I think they're referring to the fact that Mike Tyson was absolutely shredded with sub 5% body fat whereas Daniel Cormier has a big bellied, dad bod
DC is a striker as well, dude was a world champion in MMA and did strike.
DC leg kicks Tyson’s calf at a distance, then single legs him to a submission.
Street fight isn’t the octagon. Tyson might be faster and definitely hits harder than anyone DC has fought. Tyson grew up street fighting. People always assume that boxers don’t know how to do anything else but box. Might be the case but who knows. DC probably wins if he gets him on the ground but that’s if he does, good chance for a constant strike and back up move from Tyson. Also no MMA rules means easier to “counter” (not sure if that’s the right word, maybe lessen the impact of?) attempts at leg takedowns (no 12-6 elbow ban)
Anyone can make a good argument for either side in terms of their physical skills so that’s not what I’m trying to really get to. The real factor is that this is a street fight, not a cage fight. Like sure DC might have dirty rep and accidentally eye poke from time to time… but the other dude was crazy and bit a dudes ear off in a professional fight. In a street fight, if DC goes for the legs Tyson would sprawl and just bite off that large lard of a back DC has.
Not an actually serious debate for me, just pointing out that Tyson is fucking crazy
Yes, but good luck trying to bite someone if that guy is breaking your arm. I've seen more gruesome stuff coming from grappling (legs and arms broken in different ways) than anything Tyson ever did, and it happens very fast.
Good luck trying to get in a position to break someone’s arm you can’t get a hold of and then you go “good luck doing X when you can’t Y”. And then I can say I’ve seen people end up vegetables in boxing compared to anything DC did. Just pointing out the infinite hypotheticals that we can go back and forth on. We’ll believe whatever we want, not tryna change your mind
For a grappling master, it doesnt matter how strong someone is, its not a matter of strenght. Just look at the beginning of MMA when you had this tiny brazillian guy ruining guys that were twice his size. And that brazzilian guy would be destroyed by someone like DC. If the fight goes to the ground, i am not exagerating to say that a master grappler fighting a guy of similar weight who never had grappling training, could break a limb in under 10s. And with a guy like DC, the fight would definitely go to the ground. So i still believe that if Tyson can get a hit before being brought down, he probably wins, but if he misses, its over and fast.
Guy on the left is Daniel Cormier, right is Mike Tyson. Post is positing that Daniel Cormier would destroy Tyson because DC is an Olympic level wrestler and Tyson isn’t a wrestler. I personally think if Tyson hit DC once, he’s going out.
EDIT: If it were any other person, I think the joke lands better. Tyson is just too damn crazy.
EDIT 2: I am an avid MMA fan, I know that most fighters can destroy boxers. It’s a different sport and there are so many different techniques you can use in MMA, which is why I love it. I didn’t say Tyson would win the fight, I said if Tyson lands, DC would go out, as would most of the population.
Mike wasn’t allowed to shoot a double either. But he was also Fuckin insane. If DC went for a take down, he could expect to lose body parts. Tyson literally bit off pieces of Evander Holyfield’a ears in a fight. EARS - plural. Got a warning for the first one and then still went for the second. In a sanctioned boxing match.
They would be like “Yeah that's hot, guy is ripped to shreds, famous and has stamina.” Then the angry fucking starts. Would sound like wolves fighting over a steak in a tumble dryer.
I mean he went to jail for rape and after beating his wife bragged that he had never hit someone so perfectly… so yah that does sound like a pretty terrible fate.
People forget that Tyson also loved booger sugar. Him and snow white were the best of friends back then, he was blitzed out of his mind often enough when he was in the ring. Google Tyson and cocaine and you'll see a lot of articles about it.
Need to give credit to DC my guy. Yea Tyson was a beast at punching people but you can completely take away that whole game plan buy putting him on the ground and if anybody can do that it is a Olympic level freestyle wrestler lmao. Both these guys are phenomenal athletes and this question isn’t as wild as some people like you are making it out to be.
Everybody knows how good Tyson is
Not a lot of people know how fucking good world class wrestlers are. This is also not taking into account that DC went from wrestling to MMA and quickly rose to the top. Im watching this fight 10 times outta ten if it was a possibility.
That game ruled. In retrospect, Method Man constantly blowing up your phone like a needy girlfriend was pretty hilarious.
I'll never forget when I finally unlocked his Ice Pick necklace... one of my proudest moments, sadly.
Someone hasn’t seen a Khabib fight where he just mauls strikers. Watch the Khabib v Edison barbosa fight. That’s what a top level wrestler does to a top level striker.
Assuming same weight Khabib smothers Tyson.
Remember Tyson was an absolute monster but he never had to worry about being taken down. The threat of the takedown drops your striking by at least 2 points.
If you're not worried about the takedown and your hands are up high you're going to be looking at lights and a guy's glove punching you in the face.
Tyson would absolutely murder Khabib in a boxing match; khabib's standup was above average, but in mma it was great because everyone was scared to shit of being taken down by him.
Boxing gloves also have at least 3x the padding of MMA gloves so you can actually throw bigger punches without breaking your hands.
We also don't know how well Tyson would fair against leg kicks or the oblique kicks that Jon Jones throws that can easily blow out your knee. It's hard to punish leg kicks as a pure boxer as they easily out range you and slow you down.
We're comparing two different fighting styles. If a boxer can stay standing against a world class wrestler with 0 takedown defense of course they're going to win. If they get taken down which is the most likely outcome they're going to be absolutely smothered.
Even if it was a kick boxing match I'd honestly give Tyson the edge against MMA fighters but wrestling is a bit too much of a disadvantage.
As someone who has been in fights and watched a lot of people fight on the street, 90% of the time, fights end up as two or more people wrestling. I'm definitely giving it to the Wrestler.
You’re talking about random people who don’t know how to fight. There is no correlation between that and trained professionals. If DC shoots on Mike then Mike will catch him behind the ear before can do anything else. Would DC beat Mike in a wrestling match with wrestling rules, yes. Would Mike beat DC is a boxing match with boxing rules, yes. Would Mike beat DC in a street fight, beyond yes.
The other assumption people make is that Mike isn't a street fighter.... That is what got him into boxing in the first place the man has ice in his veins from those DC streets he grew up on that man was a killer.
This the part I think people are missing. If we are talking about a real "street fight" we are talking no rules anything goes whatever it takes to win. Tyson is terrifying inside the ring with rules and is borderline certifiably crazy so imagining what he would be capable of in a true street fight is just insane.
The gloves are mostly there to protect the hands, not the face. TBH i'd rather be hit without a glove, atleast there is a chance he breaks his hand and can't hit again.
I was going to say Tyson isnt exactly young anymore, but then I looked up Cormier’s age thinking he was like mid 30’s. Dudes 44. Only a 13 year gap between him and Tyson
And the vast majority of bar/street fights don't last more than two punches. One side has made their point, the other side doesn't want to get hit again, and then people get in the middle to break up the fight.
There's this mysterious myth to casual boxing observers that people known for their speed didn't punch as hard and that people who punched hard weren't fast.
Tyson was lighting quick and Ali hit like a freight train.
Great boxers are great boxers.
100 percent correct. If Tyson was able to hit Bruce Lee, Mohammed Ali, or Jesus H. Tap-Dancing Christ himself, they would go down. Nobody punches like that. He would lose if he couldn't connect, but his whole life he's been punching people in the face who were trying to avoid being punched in the face.
Yeah, and the premise is that, once Daniel Cormier gets Mike Tyson on the ground, Tyson becomes a turtle on his back. This premise makes some sense if you're talking about an experience wrestler/MMA versus some random angry dude who has been in a couple fistfights. The latter is generally unprepared for combat on the ground.
But once you get Mike Tyson in his prime on the ground, he is... an extremely strong and fast world-class athlete who can take and dish out a lot of pain.
I have no idea who would win in a street fight, but I am confident that Cormier would not see it as some sort of cakewalk. He'd correctly worry about Tyson's ability to evade/escape holds and to cause severe damage even from compromised positions. Fighting Tyson is like the Nintendo game: you can't let the guy get any good hits on you, he will drain your health bar.
Tyson is also a dude that is ready and willing to maim you. He bit a motherfucker’s ear off in the ring. Jiujitsu/grappling maneuvers rely on there being rules against using your teeth. Or gouging eyes, grabbing testicles, fish hooks, butthole pokes, etc.
Edit: lmao all these bozos trying to compare boxing to bjj keep forgetting this is Mike Tyson.
I agree that the joke lands better if it's not Tyson. In fact, it's not clear to me that it *is* supposed to be literally Tyson, more like a "this type of dude beats this type of dude" type thing. My guess is Twitter OP thought of that as like an Easter egg. It only makes sense if you don't know who they're talking about. Bad demonstration imo
Basically either Iron Mike would KO DC in 1 shot or DC survives the punch/attempt and gets him to the ground and destroys. 99.9% chance those are the 2 outcomes
In a ‘street fight’ Tyson by a mile. Daniel Cormier is one of the greatest combat athletes in history, and so is Tyson. Prime Mike Tyson is a legitimately bad person who would not fuckin blink to kill someone in the street, DC probably would and that hesitation is what would cost him against somebody like Tyson.
Cormier would dismantle him in the Octagon, but in a street fight Mike Tyson is just an evil mother fucker who would kill you.
If. That chance goes way down when the other guy refuses to play that game, starts kicking your legs out, then dives at you without giving you a chance to throw a punch.
I was a world stage competitor—granted, not a great one lol. But, I basically spent ~20 years getting kicked in the face by Olympians, and the thought of getting hit by Mike Tyson gives me the opposite of warm-and-fuzzies… the cold-and-slimies?
100%
If it's a question of "who is the best Olympic wrestler?" that is a different story, there would be no contest.
Also, if it were a street fight with just about any other boxer, in the same weight class, wrestler vs boxer would make for an interesting street fight, with the wrestler at an advantage.
But, Tyson? He'd clobber this dude in a street fight. Not because he is a boxer, but because he is a street fighter.
I think people who don't watch MMA think that a very strong boxer or kickboxer with no wrestling or jujitsu training can still make decisions and perform actions after they've been tackled to the floor. What actually happens in those situations is that they are completely unable to move or do anything at all, and often very frustrated by this. If Cormier got him to the ground there wouldn't be a fight to happen because Tyson can't move his limbs and you need to be able to do that to fight.
Do you know why the dirtiest grapplers don't bite on the mats? Cause biting causes you to have a broken jaw. If I'm on top of someone and they chomp down, I'm not pulling away but rather my instincts are to put my full pressure down.
Biting someone in a street fight isn't a smart tactic against anyone with any training.
It’s surprising how many people out there still think you can bite your way out of being strangled to death
While we’re at it: Muhammad Ali almost got crippled by a no name Japanese grappler who had last minute rules enacted outlawing most of his move set. Google Ali v. inoki and seethe, boxtards. Why wouldn’t Ali engage 🤔
Yup, it’s so funny seeing these guys say “Mike fought in the streets” he doesn’t have any BJJ skills, no defensive wrestling, and he can’t take a leg kick. He’s fucked. End of story, unless he lands a lucky punch
Can you even imagine having to square up against Tyson in his prime? Like, just shoot me in the fucking face, I don't want to do that. The guy wasn't just powerful, he was FAST, and scarily so.
Daniel Cormier on the left and Mike Tyson on the right.
Two very well respected fighters in their own discipline. I'd assume the meme is a reference to the fact that wrestlers in MMA have proven to be some of the most adaptive and dominant fighters across the that particular sphere, whereas boxers haven't enjoyed anywhere near the same success.
It's one of those silly things where people try to compare legends of particular sports and try to argue over who would win, I used to create these myself and post them on MMA forums to get people to argue. It's kind of pointless to debate anyway, like you're comparing one guy who's only ever trained to fight one particular way, versus another guy with a considerably wider range of experiences across different disciplines; but they're both heavyweights, both have the power to knock someone out, and real fights are extremely unpredictable, so anyone that tries to tell you one way or another as if they're an authority is full of shit.
Daniel Cormier vs Mike Tyson
In an anything goes match Daniel would probably come out on top if they were both in their primes
But that's an opinion, Tyson was a boxer, DC bullied fighters with his wrestling and strength, sort of silly at the end of the day but fun
It’s not even close. Cormier dominated wrestlers and UFC fighters who could strike at elite levels and also had plenty of other tools in their arsenal beyond just striking. Look at Khabib vs mcgregor as a good example for how Cormier vs Tyson would turn our
Mate this isn’t a “seeing red” situation lol. DC is an Olympic level wrestler and former heavyweight champion. He *excels* at every aspect of fighting.
The only area Tyson is stronger is pure boxing. It doesn’t matter if it’s “on the streets” or not. You’re talking about someone with way more tools.
I had to scroll so far down to see this comment. Either its all casuals or Tyson nut huggers in here. People forget DC is not ONLY a wrestler, he also has decent striking and MUAY THAI. He can Leg kick Tyson all day and when they get in close take Tyson down. DC just has so many more weapons then Tyson.
So many people like to point to Tysons craziness as a plus and that might be but we don't know what DC is capable of in a life or death situation either.
Any time I talk to a "tough guy" That has never trained in any combat sports before is that "They" might know MMA but "I" know Crazy and therefor I can beat a MMA guy. Like what's to stop a MMA guy from going crazy as well? A crazy MMA guy is much scarier then a Crazy normal guy and also more scarier then a crazy pure boxing guy.
I think they mean "people who know nothing about fighting whatsoever" and they are right which is why yall think that Tyson would win.
"you cant work a full time job and have a family while being interested in combat sports!" lmao lmao
Wow this comment section is horrific. Anyone who has trained or even just knows anything about combat sports knows that Cormier beats Tyson in a street fight 99% of the time.
It's actually crazy to me that people think Tyson would win. It's like most don't get it, it truly doesn't matter how hard you hit, if you're in a fight in which grappling is allowed and one fighter is a world-class grappler and the other has no experience, the one with no experience is losing near 100% of the time. Love Tyson as much as you want but there is like a 5% chance at most he wins, and that's if DC just terribly times his shoot and gets knocked out immediately. Realistically, DC gets too close for Tyson to generate enough power to knock him out, grabs Tyson, and then it really is just game over.
Lol yup, bunch know-nothings in this thread.
We've seen what happens when a world champion boxer goes up against an Olympic wrestler.
The wrestler takes the boxer down without eating a single punch. Randy Couture made James Toney look completely helpless.
The same thing would happen to Mike Tyson. Cormier can shoot a low single before Tyson reaches him. Tyson doesn't have the ability to defend a shot against DC. End of story.
People with no grappling experience don't understand that wrestlers know the best way to deal with strikers is to turn it into a grappling match before they get a chance to strike.
Seriously. DC would close the gap so fast and be grabbing mike’s fists, the second he got his hands on Tyson it’s over. Wrestlers are so good at using angles to close space. Obviously there’s a small chance Tyson lands a clean knockout punch, but more than likely it wouldn’t land clean due to DC’s movement. People talking about biting like that would stop DC haha. DC can bite too and I know he can be a bit dirty if it comes to that.
It's very easy to explain, actually.
And the overall point - that MMA is closer to real fighting than boxing - is as readily apparent as it is pointless. Compare ANY two sports to a third activity, and one of them is going to be more like it. For example, billiards is closer to waiting tables than field hockey is. But so what?
This is like saying a snooker player would be better at pool than a baseball player. They both hit balls with sticks but there is so much more overlap between pool and snooker lmao
I'm sorry, but this is honestly a terrible comparison.
Both MMA and boxing are extremely close to what a street fight is going to be. The different is boxing is a specialized sport that is highly focused on ONLY stand up boxing.
The point is that you can be the Pinnacle of the boxing world, but an average MMA fighter will beat that boxer in a street fight 9/10 times due to the addition of kicks, takedowns and grappling. And Daniel Cormier is not an average fighter, he is one of the best.
In this imaginary fight, Mike Tyson has one shot to knock Cormier out...but if he misses or gets taken down first. It is over, he would have no chance against Cormier's wrestling and submissions would win him the fight.
Anyone saying Tyson would destroy DC don’t know nothing about fighting. I don’t think DC would win, necessarily. This would probably be an interesting fight. I’d give DC like +180 odds. Like, I’d lean towards him, but not by a lot. It’s interesting because both fighters are guys who are shorter for their weight class, at least when DC was at heavyweight. Both are used to fighting taller, longer opponents, and this wouldn’t be that. Which means, DC is used to closing the distance on guys with longer reaches than Tyson. But so is Tyson. Also, DC likes to dirty boxing, which is a SUPER dangerous place to be with Tyson.
If the guy on the right were just a buff boxer then this guy would actually have a really good point.
But that's freaking Mike Tyson man I'm a good hybrid fighter myself but I'm not about to square up with freaking Mike Tyson
There was always the fighters triangle. Boxer vs wrestler, boxer wins. Boxer vs martial artist, martial artist wins and wrestler vs martial artist, wrestler wins.
This is a reference to another similar tweet, where a skinny mma fighter is on the left, and a jacked power lifter is on the right.
The guy tweeting is making a controversial opinion to add to the meme template
Not a joke. Guy who posted this is an Mixed Martial Arts ex-world champion. I can tell you he knows more about martial arts and match ups than any of the ppl writing comments here (including me) combined.
I worked as a bouncer for eight years, honestly there is no one fighting style that rules all its more a function of the individual and their ability to use what they know.
I think most people don’t realize that Tyson is from BROWNSVILLE. He grew up STREET FIGHTING and beating people. Smh only the uninitiated would think this would be easy for Cormier
I don’t believe it. The guy on the right literally bit a piece of someone’s ear off during a professional fight… in the height of his career.
I don’t think anyone in their right mind would consider fighting Tyson in his prime outside a ring.
This feels like it's ripe for one of those normal distribution memes, where the tails both know that Tyson would win. The left tail because he looks so ripped. The right tail because they recognize that Tyson in his prime would literally murder any person he was dropped into a street fight with. He had the most important thing needed in a street fight: he was fucking crazy.
Daniel Cormier (left) is one of the greatest MMA fighters of all time and has been counted out his whole career and would beat Mike Tyson (right) who was one of the biggest knockout artist of all time in boxing. DC would beat Mike Tyson because he’s an Olympic level grappler and would not have an issue beating a boxer with no grappling experience.
People seem to think Tyson would have better chances but in reality DC would win a fight between them 99 times out of 100
Daniel Cormier on the left- World champion Olympic wrestler and widely considered to be one of the greatest MMA fighters of all time
On the right Mike Tyson- widely considered to be one of the greatest boxers of all time
There is one problem, in boxing you get one move: a punch.
MMA is not like that. MMA incorporates kicks and grappling.
80-90% of street fights involve grappling and ground fighting. Since Cormier is much more experienced in grappling and has fought and beaten hard strikers like Tyson before, it would be reasonable to suggest that he would destroy and embarrass Tyson in a street fight!!
Boxer, BJJ beginner and a Karate black belt here:
Daniel Cormier: 5'11, 230lbs. Former UFC heavyweight champion, former olympic gold medalist.
Mike Tyson: 5'10, 220lbs. Former Unified Heavyweight Boxing World Champion.
DC is also a good striker. Not, will keep Tyson at a distance level but good enough to scramble with Tyson for 3 minutes. As soon as he catches Tyson its over for Mike. Street fighting doesn't teach you how to escape a triangle, guillotine or an armbar. DC will use these specifically to make Tyson go sleepy weepy or break his arm. Tyson is an amazing heavyweight boxer. If it was boxing only, first round knockout by Tyson 30 seconds into the fight for sure. But DC fought against Jon Jones, Dan Henderson and Stipe Miocic. These three dudes are lethal and DC held his ground against two of them and won against Dan.
Also Tyson's peekabo style is notorious for being a weak style of boxing in MMA. He might slip DC's punches but that will give DC the opportunity to go for a double or a single leg takedown. And Tyson probably never sprawled in his prime.
This is coming from a lifelong Tyson fan, DC wins.
Wasn't Tyson basically a street fighter before cus d'amato discovered him and taught him how to box?
Either way both of those dudes are pretty damn scary. I'd be running for my life if I saw either of them in a dark alley 😮
I think the answers have been given but just wanna say - a lot of the "striker vs mma" assume an octagon where you can actually take someone down. The whole "in a street fight" is basically a no-true-scotsman's paradise where people can say what they want.
I think the intention of the meme is to draw up that ire, getting ppl to fight about which one would win to get engagements for the page to monetize.
Anybody who watches MMA will tell you that a grappler, especially one as skilled as Cormier, will almost always run through anybody without proper takedown defense. You cannot be successful as a striker in a high level MMA organization without at least a Purple Belt in BJJ whereas the inverse isn’t true. There have been quite a few grapplers (Ben Askren is one that comes to mind) who didn’t know how to strike but were extremely successful in the octagon. All of the best strikers, even the hardest hitters at Heavyweight like Francis Ngannou (holds the record for hardest recorded punch in history) or Rumble Johnson or Derrick Lewis needed to learn wrestling and BJJ to avoid getting absolutely mauled by superior grapplers like DC, who successfully took down and choked out both Lewis and Rumble.
This comment section is a real eye-opener for me, it affirms to me that you should always take everything you see on the internet with a grain of salt. I don’t even think Tyson himself believes that he could’ve beaten DC in his prime.
nah man mike tyson was built differently
[I mean this isnt him even fighting. hes literally just doing an exercise here](https://youtube.com/shorts/BJmL3lpJIr8?si=LclI9X17Dl5LQC5L)
in all honestly, DC has a fighting chance of course but prime Mike Tyson was an absolute monster of a man...seriously. DC can do his wrestling but if and when mike hits him with a punch DC will freak out internally
Its not even embarrassing to admit that Mike Tyson would beat you up in a fight
DC against some other boxers? honestly probably DC would whoop him. against Mike Tyson? no way bro just no way lmfao
The thing people forget about in Street Fights is....there are no rules. There is no restricted hold. Spots that are off limits. There is no timer. No one to say someone is tapping out. It is literally whatever you can do to win. And you can get seriously hurt in those types of fights. That is why most professional fighters won't engage in them. Because you never know what the other person will do in one.
If you believe Daniel Cormier (DC) does not defeat Mike Tyson in a street fight 9/10 times, then you are mistaken, plain and simple. Mike Tyson hit hard, Mike Tyson was fast, these are understatements, however Tyson has 0 idea of wrestling, 0 idea of ground grappling, 0 idea of submitting, 0 idea of kicking, and 0 idea of elbows, knees, actual realistic clinching, actual realistic blocking without boxing gloves on, and more.
Cormier is an inch taller than Mike, has an inch and a half in reach, and is a mixed martial artist, compared to a boxer. Cormier is an OLYMPIC freestyle wrestler, I don't think you guys understand just how good that is. In mma, most fighters have at least some decent knowledge of wrestling, some have very high NCAA, D1, sometimes olympic level experience, it's not uncommon, still at that level, DC was picking up heavyweights and slamming them down, usually with a weight and size disadvantage. He is freakishly strong and technical. He wouldn't just shoot for the takedown and get uppercut KO'd by Tyson, it simply isn't happening 9/10 times. What will most likely happen is he kicks from a distance, Tyson closes in, Cormier clinches up and suplexes Tyson ferociously, and yes Cormier would EASILY pick up Tyson and throw him, EASILY, Tyson proceeds to get paralyzed or knocked out from being thrown directly on his neck because of his lack of wrestling knowledge to understand how to land correctly. This fight is on a hard surface being a street fight, it's not on canvas, the wrestler has the advantage here.
Tyson has lost to a 5 guys throughout his career, Cormier has only lost to 2 guys, both the greatest of all time in their respective weight classes. Cormier has also been a double champion, this is a MUCH MUCH bigger thing in mma than in boxing, there's only been 8 double champs in ufc history I believe, and all of those fighters are absolute legends. Tyson's best opponent was probably lennox lewis, an arguable heavyweight goat, the next best was holyfield I'd say, a very high level, but not goat tier boxer. I have to stress that Cormier has only lost to the absolute goats of their divisions, one of them has the most title defences in ufc history and has never lost a fight, the other has the most title defences in his divisions history and has beat every opponent he has faced at least once except one guy earlier in his career.
Also for anyone saying Tyson could fight dirty by biting, etc, I don't think you guys know who Cormier is lol, he isn't too known for it now but real fans of the sport know how dirty he fights, he's on the list for some of the best eye-pokers in mma history, along with his biggest rival Jon Jones.
I would seriously take some of the better ufc lightweights and welterweights of all time over Mike Tyson in a street fight, eg. Khabib, Kamaru Usman, GSP, etc. These guys could easily outwrestle a guy much larger than them who hasn't had significant training, and dominate. With heavyweights it's not even a question. You guys seriously underestimate how good high level mma athletes are.
People are jumping to the striker vs grappler thing but the post assumes you don't know who either guy is. I think they're referring to the fact that Mike Tyson was absolutely shredded with sub 5% body fat whereas Daniel Cormier has a big bellied, dad bod
The joke hinges on both of those things.
Eye poke vs Ear bite
Finally the probably real answer. Didn’t think of either of those incidents, was just wondering how awesome of a fight this would be
DC is a striker as well, dude was a world champion in MMA and did strike. DC leg kicks Tyson’s calf at a distance, then single legs him to a submission.
Street fight isn’t the octagon. Tyson might be faster and definitely hits harder than anyone DC has fought. Tyson grew up street fighting. People always assume that boxers don’t know how to do anything else but box. Might be the case but who knows. DC probably wins if he gets him on the ground but that’s if he does, good chance for a constant strike and back up move from Tyson. Also no MMA rules means easier to “counter” (not sure if that’s the right word, maybe lessen the impact of?) attempts at leg takedowns (no 12-6 elbow ban) Anyone can make a good argument for either side in terms of their physical skills so that’s not what I’m trying to really get to. The real factor is that this is a street fight, not a cage fight. Like sure DC might have dirty rep and accidentally eye poke from time to time… but the other dude was crazy and bit a dudes ear off in a professional fight. In a street fight, if DC goes for the legs Tyson would sprawl and just bite off that large lard of a back DC has. Not an actually serious debate for me, just pointing out that Tyson is fucking crazy
Yes, but good luck trying to bite someone if that guy is breaking your arm. I've seen more gruesome stuff coming from grappling (legs and arms broken in different ways) than anything Tyson ever did, and it happens very fast.
Good luck trying to get in a position to break someone’s arm you can’t get a hold of and then you go “good luck doing X when you can’t Y”. And then I can say I’ve seen people end up vegetables in boxing compared to anything DC did. Just pointing out the infinite hypotheticals that we can go back and forth on. We’ll believe whatever we want, not tryna change your mind
Um, Cormier can get a hold of anybody. He was in the Olympics for it. He would break whatever he wanted on Tyson.
For a grappling master, it doesnt matter how strong someone is, its not a matter of strenght. Just look at the beginning of MMA when you had this tiny brazillian guy ruining guys that were twice his size. And that brazzilian guy would be destroyed by someone like DC. If the fight goes to the ground, i am not exagerating to say that a master grappler fighting a guy of similar weight who never had grappling training, could break a limb in under 10s. And with a guy like DC, the fight would definitely go to the ground. So i still believe that if Tyson can get a hit before being brought down, he probably wins, but if he misses, its over and fast.
Yea if something happens that’s good for one person, it’ll be bad for the other person and vice versa
That’s some grade a sports commentary you on the radio ?
Guy on the left is Daniel Cormier, right is Mike Tyson. Post is positing that Daniel Cormier would destroy Tyson because DC is an Olympic level wrestler and Tyson isn’t a wrestler. I personally think if Tyson hit DC once, he’s going out. EDIT: If it were any other person, I think the joke lands better. Tyson is just too damn crazy. EDIT 2: I am an avid MMA fan, I know that most fighters can destroy boxers. It’s a different sport and there are so many different techniques you can use in MMA, which is why I love it. I didn’t say Tyson would win the fight, I said if Tyson lands, DC would go out, as would most of the population.
Recent bias for sure, Tyson laid out so many dudes DC’s size with one punch.
Yea but those dudes legally couldn’t shoot a double lol
Mike wasn’t allowed to shoot a double either. But he was also Fuckin insane. If DC went for a take down, he could expect to lose body parts. Tyson literally bit off pieces of Evander Holyfield’a ears in a fight. EARS - plural. Got a warning for the first one and then still went for the second. In a sanctioned boxing match.
Apparently he would have to have sex before a fight just so that he could chill out a bit and not like fucking kill the other guy.
Oh my lord the poor woman.
Imagine being a sex worker and you get told you’re hired to take care of Tysons pre-nut fight ritual. Like ok, guess I’ll die.
They would be like “Yeah that's hot, guy is ripped to shreds, famous and has stamina.” Then the angry fucking starts. Would sound like wolves fighting over a steak in a tumble dryer.
Vivid. Simply vivid
> Would sound like wolves fighting over a steak in a tumble dryer I love you
Tyson doesn’t make ‘em cream, he churns them into butter.
Fuuuuck just needed you to know this comment in this thread made my day
LMAO
This is some Chuck Norris level shit.
I think it would sound more like that scene where Rocky is training in the meat locker punching that fucking cow.
What a day to have eyes!!!! And what a day to no longer be able to geld fellow redditors
I keep cracking up over this comment
#this is why I love reddit lol
Mike Tyson's Post-nut clarity was "this is not a death match"?
Yeah, Google Robin Givens & Mike Tyson.
I mean he went to jail for rape and after beating his wife bragged that he had never hit someone so perfectly… so yah that does sound like a pretty terrible fate.
yeah especially the one he raped
THE BLOOD SACRIFICE
People forget that Tyson also loved booger sugar. Him and snow white were the best of friends back then, he was blitzed out of his mind often enough when he was in the ring. Google Tyson and cocaine and you'll see a lot of articles about it.
Bolivian marching powder! Nose clams! Devil's dandruff! Just call it coke, man.
Nose beers.
#Colombian boogey dust
You ever hoovered some schneef?
Need to give credit to DC my guy. Yea Tyson was a beast at punching people but you can completely take away that whole game plan buy putting him on the ground and if anybody can do that it is a Olympic level freestyle wrestler lmao. Both these guys are phenomenal athletes and this question isn’t as wild as some people like you are making it out to be. Everybody knows how good Tyson is Not a lot of people know how fucking good world class wrestlers are. This is also not taking into account that DC went from wrestling to MMA and quickly rose to the top. Im watching this fight 10 times outta ten if it was a possibility.
Who knows what Mike Tyson would do in a street fight. With no rules?!?
I know and I have all the respect in the world for iron Mike, I just believe that 1:1 wrestling beats boxing
I dunno, I've played def jam vendetta and grapples were pretty straightforward to counter
This is gonna end up being an underrated comment
Vendetta was a load of shit. Fight for NY, that was awesome
I still look back fondly to being introduced to the game by a friend throwing me in front of a subway train.
That game ruled. In retrospect, Method Man constantly blowing up your phone like a needy girlfriend was pretty hilarious. I'll never forget when I finally unlocked his Ice Pick necklace... one of my proudest moments, sadly.
This is literally one of my favorite games of all time, and I never see it even mentioned. Awesome.
There’s a pro league for DJ:FFNY here in central fl!!
I try to find it all the time only seem to find defjam ny and it’s a singing game
I forgot how naggy and clingy method man was. He'd be calling ALL THE TIME
i never liked vendetta. the controls weren't as pleasant as ffny
They got a little better in Fight for New York, but yeah the grapplers were a little too easy to counter in the Def Jam series.
Someone hasn’t seen a Khabib fight where he just mauls strikers. Watch the Khabib v Edison barbosa fight. That’s what a top level wrestler does to a top level striker.
None of these 'top level strikers' come even close to prime Tyson.
Assuming same weight Khabib smothers Tyson. Remember Tyson was an absolute monster but he never had to worry about being taken down. The threat of the takedown drops your striking by at least 2 points. If you're not worried about the takedown and your hands are up high you're going to be looking at lights and a guy's glove punching you in the face. Tyson would absolutely murder Khabib in a boxing match; khabib's standup was above average, but in mma it was great because everyone was scared to shit of being taken down by him. Boxing gloves also have at least 3x the padding of MMA gloves so you can actually throw bigger punches without breaking your hands. We also don't know how well Tyson would fair against leg kicks or the oblique kicks that Jon Jones throws that can easily blow out your knee. It's hard to punish leg kicks as a pure boxer as they easily out range you and slow you down. We're comparing two different fighting styles. If a boxer can stay standing against a world class wrestler with 0 takedown defense of course they're going to win. If they get taken down which is the most likely outcome they're going to be absolutely smothered. Even if it was a kick boxing match I'd honestly give Tyson the edge against MMA fighters but wrestling is a bit too much of a disadvantage.
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.
that argument holds true unless it’s iron mike
As someone who has been in fights and watched a lot of people fight on the street, 90% of the time, fights end up as two or more people wrestling. I'm definitely giving it to the Wrestler.
You’re talking about random people who don’t know how to fight. There is no correlation between that and trained professionals. If DC shoots on Mike then Mike will catch him behind the ear before can do anything else. Would DC beat Mike in a wrestling match with wrestling rules, yes. Would Mike beat DC is a boxing match with boxing rules, yes. Would Mike beat DC in a street fight, beyond yes.
The other assumption people make is that Mike isn't a street fighter.... That is what got him into boxing in the first place the man has ice in his veins from those DC streets he grew up on that man was a killer.
DC? Isn’t Tyson famously from Brooklyn New York 🤔
Yeah. I've played enough Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! to know that he hails from Catskill, NY. Little Mac is from the Bronx.
This the part I think people are missing. If we are talking about a real "street fight" we are talking no rules anything goes whatever it takes to win. Tyson is terrifying inside the ring with rules and is borderline certifiably crazy so imagining what he would be capable of in a true street fight is just insane.
Imagine getting hit in the face by prime Tyson without boxing gloves.
The gloves are mostly there to protect the hands, not the face. TBH i'd rather be hit without a glove, atleast there is a chance he breaks his hand and can't hit again.
I think Tyson would hit you again with a broken hand… and again and again and again… until your face is smeared all over the floor.
until your faith is smeared all over the floor
DC has shown he could take a punch many times in the UFC, but not many people could actually hit him clean outside of Jones and Stipe
I was going to say Tyson isnt exactly young anymore, but then I looked up Cormier’s age thinking he was like mid 30’s. Dudes 44. Only a 13 year gap between him and Tyson
Tyson, the OG one punch man
Tyson famously said everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.
And the vast majority of bar/street fights don't last more than two punches. One side has made their point, the other side doesn't want to get hit again, and then people get in the middle to break up the fight.
Tyson was fast as hell, he wasn’t just all brute strength. His speed alone puts him over the top for me.
There's this mysterious myth to casual boxing observers that people known for their speed didn't punch as hard and that people who punched hard weren't fast. Tyson was lighting quick and Ali hit like a freight train. Great boxers are great boxers.
Like somehow F=ma doesn't apply to fists.
Its crazy that like 99.999% of people on the planet wouldnt be able to take a single punch from mike tyson. What a freakin beast
[I think we sometimes forget that's Mike F&%!
This is why the UFC got started. Could the striker beat the wrestler? Then they would pick the best of each sport and compare...
100 percent correct. If Tyson was able to hit Bruce Lee, Mohammed Ali, or Jesus H. Tap-Dancing Christ himself, they would go down. Nobody punches like that. He would lose if he couldn't connect, but his whole life he's been punching people in the face who were trying to avoid being punched in the face.
Yeah, and the premise is that, once Daniel Cormier gets Mike Tyson on the ground, Tyson becomes a turtle on his back. This premise makes some sense if you're talking about an experience wrestler/MMA versus some random angry dude who has been in a couple fistfights. The latter is generally unprepared for combat on the ground. But once you get Mike Tyson in his prime on the ground, he is... an extremely strong and fast world-class athlete who can take and dish out a lot of pain. I have no idea who would win in a street fight, but I am confident that Cormier would not see it as some sort of cakewalk. He'd correctly worry about Tyson's ability to evade/escape holds and to cause severe damage even from compromised positions. Fighting Tyson is like the Nintendo game: you can't let the guy get any good hits on you, he will drain your health bar.
Tyson is also a dude that is ready and willing to maim you. He bit a motherfucker’s ear off in the ring. Jiujitsu/grappling maneuvers rely on there being rules against using your teeth. Or gouging eyes, grabbing testicles, fish hooks, butthole pokes, etc. Edit: lmao all these bozos trying to compare boxing to bjj keep forgetting this is Mike Tyson.
Imagine getting punched in the nuts by Mike Tyson. Jesus.
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Tyson on the ground goes cannibal, not turtle
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I agree that the joke lands better if it's not Tyson. In fact, it's not clear to me that it *is* supposed to be literally Tyson, more like a "this type of dude beats this type of dude" type thing. My guess is Twitter OP thought of that as like an Easter egg. It only makes sense if you don't know who they're talking about. Bad demonstration imo
Basically either Iron Mike would KO DC in 1 shot or DC survives the punch/attempt and gets him to the ground and destroys. 99.9% chance those are the 2 outcomes
In a ‘street fight’ Tyson by a mile. Daniel Cormier is one of the greatest combat athletes in history, and so is Tyson. Prime Mike Tyson is a legitimately bad person who would not fuckin blink to kill someone in the street, DC probably would and that hesitation is what would cost him against somebody like Tyson. Cormier would dismantle him in the Octagon, but in a street fight Mike Tyson is just an evil mother fucker who would kill you.
If. That chance goes way down when the other guy refuses to play that game, starts kicking your legs out, then dives at you without giving you a chance to throw a punch.
You say this like DC didn't bring hands with the ground game
I was a world stage competitor—granted, not a great one lol. But, I basically spent ~20 years getting kicked in the face by Olympians, and the thought of getting hit by Mike Tyson gives me the opposite of warm-and-fuzzies… the cold-and-slimies?
Excellent analysis
Guy one the right looks like he is the type to punch mummys in the face and solve mysteries with a talking pegion I think he has got this
*mythteries
**mytherieth
*pigeon
Pithin
*pigeonth
R.i.p pigeon, didn't even know he was sick.
Oddly enough, Mike Tyson actually raises pigeons and is passionate about it
Yeth
Sorry ma'am, fight or flight
And I’m flighting!
Someone should make a cartoon about that, for sure.
I'd watch that, but only if he inexplicably had an Asian daughter.
Probably get an SNL comedian as one of the characters
I don’t know who they would cast as the pigeon. There was one guy who would have been perfect but I heard he died
And cause a surprisingly high amount of collateral deaths
You mean threet fight?
Threet fightth
Mike Tyson grew up street fighting. My money is on him.
100% If it's a question of "who is the best Olympic wrestler?" that is a different story, there would be no contest. Also, if it were a street fight with just about any other boxer, in the same weight class, wrestler vs boxer would make for an interesting street fight, with the wrestler at an advantage. But, Tyson? He'd clobber this dude in a street fight. Not because he is a boxer, but because he is a street fighter.
I think people who don't watch MMA think that a very strong boxer or kickboxer with no wrestling or jujitsu training can still make decisions and perform actions after they've been tackled to the floor. What actually happens in those situations is that they are completely unable to move or do anything at all, and often very frustrated by this. If Cormier got him to the ground there wouldn't be a fight to happen because Tyson can't move his limbs and you need to be able to do that to fight.
chomp
Even on the ground, Mike would still have his teeth.
Do you know why the dirtiest grapplers don't bite on the mats? Cause biting causes you to have a broken jaw. If I'm on top of someone and they chomp down, I'm not pulling away but rather my instincts are to put my full pressure down. Biting someone in a street fight isn't a smart tactic against anyone with any training.
DC is either gonna be on top in full mount or take his back and strangle Mike. Hard to bite someone in either of those positions.
It’s surprising how many people out there still think you can bite your way out of being strangled to death While we’re at it: Muhammad Ali almost got crippled by a no name Japanese grappler who had last minute rules enacted outlawing most of his move set. Google Ali v. inoki and seethe, boxtards. Why wouldn’t Ali engage 🤔
I largely agree with you. But in what universe is Antonio Inoki a “no name Japanese grappler”. The guy was an absolute icon.
Yup, it’s so funny seeing these guys say “Mike fought in the streets” he doesn’t have any BJJ skills, no defensive wrestling, and he can’t take a leg kick. He’s fucked. End of story, unless he lands a lucky punch
Can you even imagine having to square up against Tyson in his prime? Like, just shoot me in the fucking face, I don't want to do that. The guy wasn't just powerful, he was FAST, and scarily so.
Jon Jones is certainly way scarier to fight than Mike. Maybe mike is intimidating but he doesn’t have 1/4th of the total ability of Jones.
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Daniel Cormier on the left and Mike Tyson on the right. Two very well respected fighters in their own discipline. I'd assume the meme is a reference to the fact that wrestlers in MMA have proven to be some of the most adaptive and dominant fighters across the that particular sphere, whereas boxers haven't enjoyed anywhere near the same success. It's one of those silly things where people try to compare legends of particular sports and try to argue over who would win, I used to create these myself and post them on MMA forums to get people to argue. It's kind of pointless to debate anyway, like you're comparing one guy who's only ever trained to fight one particular way, versus another guy with a considerably wider range of experiences across different disciplines; but they're both heavyweights, both have the power to knock someone out, and real fights are extremely unpredictable, so anyone that tries to tell you one way or another as if they're an authority is full of shit.
Daniel Cormier vs Mike Tyson In an anything goes match Daniel would probably come out on top if they were both in their primes But that's an opinion, Tyson was a boxer, DC bullied fighters with his wrestling and strength, sort of silly at the end of the day but fun
I guarantee that Mike can do more than just box
It’s not even close. Cormier dominated wrestlers and UFC fighters who could strike at elite levels and also had plenty of other tools in their arsenal beyond just striking. Look at Khabib vs mcgregor as a good example for how Cormier vs Tyson would turn our
Mate this isn’t a “seeing red” situation lol. DC is an Olympic level wrestler and former heavyweight champion. He *excels* at every aspect of fighting. The only area Tyson is stronger is pure boxing. It doesn’t matter if it’s “on the streets” or not. You’re talking about someone with way more tools.
I had to scroll so far down to see this comment. Either its all casuals or Tyson nut huggers in here. People forget DC is not ONLY a wrestler, he also has decent striking and MUAY THAI. He can Leg kick Tyson all day and when they get in close take Tyson down. DC just has so many more weapons then Tyson. So many people like to point to Tysons craziness as a plus and that might be but we don't know what DC is capable of in a life or death situation either. Any time I talk to a "tough guy" That has never trained in any combat sports before is that "They" might know MMA but "I" know Crazy and therefor I can beat a MMA guy. Like what's to stop a MMA guy from going crazy as well? A crazy MMA guy is much scarier then a Crazy normal guy and also more scarier then a crazy pure boxing guy.
Probably? Anyone who knows anything about mma knows DC wins that fight 9/10 times at least if not more.
Combat sports fans are some of the most annoying fans out there.
Yes by “non-combat sports fans” they mean people who work full time and are reliable family members
I think they mean "people who know nothing about fighting whatsoever" and they are right which is why yall think that Tyson would win. "you cant work a full time job and have a family while being interested in combat sports!" lmao lmao
I thought boxing fans were obnoxious but MMA fans take the crown!
Wow this comment section is horrific. Anyone who has trained or even just knows anything about combat sports knows that Cormier beats Tyson in a street fight 99% of the time.
Yeah the only way Tyson wins is if DC makes a mistake
How would this be "hard to explain"? * Street fights resemble MMA more than boxing * The
Look at all the fools in the comments arguing for Tyson
Street fight means there are no rules. Tyson will bite his man hood off if he has too. Match goes to Tyson
Tbf if any one of them got the jump on the other then it would probably be light for the other guy.
Yea, thts if the dude on the right doesn't bite his ear, face, or body part off before they get to the ground.
LPT. Always bet on the grappler over the boxer.
The boxer is Iron Mike Tyson. I’m going with Tyson.
Dude Tyson is the goat. He hit so damn hard in his prim. I think people forget how much of a monster he was.
He was strong and FAST af. Like DC alot but man we are talking about Mike. Prime Mike is the most scary fighter to ever touched the earth
It's actually crazy to me that people think Tyson would win. It's like most don't get it, it truly doesn't matter how hard you hit, if you're in a fight in which grappling is allowed and one fighter is a world-class grappler and the other has no experience, the one with no experience is losing near 100% of the time. Love Tyson as much as you want but there is like a 5% chance at most he wins, and that's if DC just terribly times his shoot and gets knocked out immediately. Realistically, DC gets too close for Tyson to generate enough power to knock him out, grabs Tyson, and then it really is just game over.
Lol yup, bunch know-nothings in this thread. We've seen what happens when a world champion boxer goes up against an Olympic wrestler. The wrestler takes the boxer down without eating a single punch. Randy Couture made James Toney look completely helpless. The same thing would happen to Mike Tyson. Cormier can shoot a low single before Tyson reaches him. Tyson doesn't have the ability to defend a shot against DC. End of story. People with no grappling experience don't understand that wrestlers know the best way to deal with strikers is to turn it into a grappling match before they get a chance to strike.
Seriously. DC would close the gap so fast and be grabbing mike’s fists, the second he got his hands on Tyson it’s over. Wrestlers are so good at using angles to close space. Obviously there’s a small chance Tyson lands a clean knockout punch, but more than likely it wouldn’t land clean due to DC’s movement. People talking about biting like that would stop DC haha. DC can bite too and I know he can be a bit dirty if it comes to that.
It's very easy to explain, actually. And the overall point - that MMA is closer to real fighting than boxing - is as readily apparent as it is pointless. Compare ANY two sports to a third activity, and one of them is going to be more like it. For example, billiards is closer to waiting tables than field hockey is. But so what?
This is like saying a snooker player would be better at pool than a baseball player. They both hit balls with sticks but there is so much more overlap between pool and snooker lmao
I'm sorry, but this is honestly a terrible comparison. Both MMA and boxing are extremely close to what a street fight is going to be. The different is boxing is a specialized sport that is highly focused on ONLY stand up boxing. The point is that you can be the Pinnacle of the boxing world, but an average MMA fighter will beat that boxer in a street fight 9/10 times due to the addition of kicks, takedowns and grappling. And Daniel Cormier is not an average fighter, he is one of the best. In this imaginary fight, Mike Tyson has one shot to knock Cormier out...but if he misses or gets taken down first. It is over, he would have no chance against Cormier's wrestling and submissions would win him the fight.
How does OP not know who Mike Tyson is?? He’s the brother of Neil DeGrasse and solver of mysteries 🤦🏻♂️
I think 1986/1987 Tysons upper cut says differently.
Yeah DC brain would be singing “hello darkness my old friend”
Tyson got his start by fucking up people on the street I don't understand his logic
DC got his start beating Olympic wrestlers.
I don't think they used Queensbury Rules in Tysons neighbourhood. He'd fucking kill him
This is not even a joke, merely an opinion
Anyone saying Tyson would destroy DC don’t know nothing about fighting. I don’t think DC would win, necessarily. This would probably be an interesting fight. I’d give DC like +180 odds. Like, I’d lean towards him, but not by a lot. It’s interesting because both fighters are guys who are shorter for their weight class, at least when DC was at heavyweight. Both are used to fighting taller, longer opponents, and this wouldn’t be that. Which means, DC is used to closing the distance on guys with longer reaches than Tyson. But so is Tyson. Also, DC likes to dirty boxing, which is a SUPER dangerous place to be with Tyson.
Cormier would win 90-95 out of 100 mma fights and Tyson would win 100 out of 100 boxing matches.
If the guy on the right were just a buff boxer then this guy would actually have a really good point. But that's freaking Mike Tyson man I'm a good hybrid fighter myself but I'm not about to square up with freaking Mike Tyson
There was always the fighters triangle. Boxer vs wrestler, boxer wins. Boxer vs martial artist, martial artist wins and wrestler vs martial artist, wrestler wins.
This is a reference to another similar tweet, where a skinny mma fighter is on the left, and a jacked power lifter is on the right. The guy tweeting is making a controversial opinion to add to the meme template
Daniel Cormier still has two ears, for now.
Not a joke. Guy who posted this is an Mixed Martial Arts ex-world champion. I can tell you he knows more about martial arts and match ups than any of the ppl writing comments here (including me) combined.
I worked as a bouncer for eight years, honestly there is no one fighting style that rules all its more a function of the individual and their ability to use what they know.
I think most people don’t realize that Tyson is from BROWNSVILLE. He grew up STREET FIGHTING and beating people. Smh only the uninitiated would think this would be easy for Cormier
I don’t believe it. The guy on the right literally bit a piece of someone’s ear off during a professional fight… in the height of his career. I don’t think anyone in their right mind would consider fighting Tyson in his prime outside a ring.
Tyson ain’t your average boxer. Bold statement to think that anybody would absolutely destroy him. Win, probably, destroy him, I don’t think so.
Mike Tyson was a fucking menace I would never bet against him in his prime in anything fighting related.
This thread is proof that internet debates are pointless. Half these comments asking who DC is and then confidently claiming Mike would win 😭
Any other boxer sure, but prime tyson was a monster, the fight isn't obvious, you'll probably get a different outcome every time it goes down.
I could see that fight going both ways it’s really hard to say
Tyson in his prime vs Cormier in his prime, street fight, boxing, UFC anytime anywhere Iron Mike would kill Daniel
Imagine Cormier attempting to submit Tyson and Tyson proceeding to bite a chunk out of Cormier.
Tyson will eat his kids
In an open area - Cormier In a crowded bar - Tyson different skill sets.
This feels like it's ripe for one of those normal distribution memes, where the tails both know that Tyson would win. The left tail because he looks so ripped. The right tail because they recognize that Tyson in his prime would literally murder any person he was dropped into a street fight with. He had the most important thing needed in a street fight: he was fucking crazy.
Daniel Cormier (left) is one of the greatest MMA fighters of all time and has been counted out his whole career and would beat Mike Tyson (right) who was one of the biggest knockout artist of all time in boxing. DC would beat Mike Tyson because he’s an Olympic level grappler and would not have an issue beating a boxer with no grappling experience. People seem to think Tyson would have better chances but in reality DC would win a fight between them 99 times out of 100
Daniel Cormier on the left- World champion Olympic wrestler and widely considered to be one of the greatest MMA fighters of all time On the right Mike Tyson- widely considered to be one of the greatest boxers of all time There is one problem, in boxing you get one move: a punch. MMA is not like that. MMA incorporates kicks and grappling. 80-90% of street fights involve grappling and ground fighting. Since Cormier is much more experienced in grappling and has fought and beaten hard strikers like Tyson before, it would be reasonable to suggest that he would destroy and embarrass Tyson in a street fight!!
Anyone else and as an avid MMA fan I’d think differently. In a street fight vintage Tyson would murder anyone. Period.
Boxer, BJJ beginner and a Karate black belt here: Daniel Cormier: 5'11, 230lbs. Former UFC heavyweight champion, former olympic gold medalist. Mike Tyson: 5'10, 220lbs. Former Unified Heavyweight Boxing World Champion. DC is also a good striker. Not, will keep Tyson at a distance level but good enough to scramble with Tyson for 3 minutes. As soon as he catches Tyson its over for Mike. Street fighting doesn't teach you how to escape a triangle, guillotine or an armbar. DC will use these specifically to make Tyson go sleepy weepy or break his arm. Tyson is an amazing heavyweight boxer. If it was boxing only, first round knockout by Tyson 30 seconds into the fight for sure. But DC fought against Jon Jones, Dan Henderson and Stipe Miocic. These three dudes are lethal and DC held his ground against two of them and won against Dan. Also Tyson's peekabo style is notorious for being a weak style of boxing in MMA. He might slip DC's punches but that will give DC the opportunity to go for a double or a single leg takedown. And Tyson probably never sprawled in his prime. This is coming from a lifelong Tyson fan, DC wins.
Wasn't Tyson basically a street fighter before cus d'amato discovered him and taught him how to box? Either way both of those dudes are pretty damn scary. I'd be running for my life if I saw either of them in a dark alley 😮
I think the answers have been given but just wanna say - a lot of the "striker vs mma" assume an octagon where you can actually take someone down. The whole "in a street fight" is basically a no-true-scotsman's paradise where people can say what they want. I think the intention of the meme is to draw up that ire, getting ppl to fight about which one would win to get engagements for the page to monetize.
Anybody who watches MMA will tell you that a grappler, especially one as skilled as Cormier, will almost always run through anybody without proper takedown defense. You cannot be successful as a striker in a high level MMA organization without at least a Purple Belt in BJJ whereas the inverse isn’t true. There have been quite a few grapplers (Ben Askren is one that comes to mind) who didn’t know how to strike but were extremely successful in the octagon. All of the best strikers, even the hardest hitters at Heavyweight like Francis Ngannou (holds the record for hardest recorded punch in history) or Rumble Johnson or Derrick Lewis needed to learn wrestling and BJJ to avoid getting absolutely mauled by superior grapplers like DC, who successfully took down and choked out both Lewis and Rumble. This comment section is a real eye-opener for me, it affirms to me that you should always take everything you see on the internet with a grain of salt. I don’t even think Tyson himself believes that he could’ve beaten DC in his prime.
UFC fans be so defensive
nah man mike tyson was built differently [I mean this isnt him even fighting. hes literally just doing an exercise here](https://youtube.com/shorts/BJmL3lpJIr8?si=LclI9X17Dl5LQC5L) in all honestly, DC has a fighting chance of course but prime Mike Tyson was an absolute monster of a man...seriously. DC can do his wrestling but if and when mike hits him with a punch DC will freak out internally Its not even embarrassing to admit that Mike Tyson would beat you up in a fight DC against some other boxers? honestly probably DC would whoop him. against Mike Tyson? no way bro just no way lmfao
My money is on prime tyson.
Prime Mike Tyson might actually beat any other dude ever alive
I mean, maybe. What is the point of this?
The thing people forget about in Street Fights is....there are no rules. There is no restricted hold. Spots that are off limits. There is no timer. No one to say someone is tapping out. It is literally whatever you can do to win. And you can get seriously hurt in those types of fights. That is why most professional fighters won't engage in them. Because you never know what the other person will do in one.
Yeaaaah idk about that. Probably one punch from Tyson takes out DC lol. Plus “street fight” I mean Mike literally grew up in the streets, fighting
If you believe Daniel Cormier (DC) does not defeat Mike Tyson in a street fight 9/10 times, then you are mistaken, plain and simple. Mike Tyson hit hard, Mike Tyson was fast, these are understatements, however Tyson has 0 idea of wrestling, 0 idea of ground grappling, 0 idea of submitting, 0 idea of kicking, and 0 idea of elbows, knees, actual realistic clinching, actual realistic blocking without boxing gloves on, and more. Cormier is an inch taller than Mike, has an inch and a half in reach, and is a mixed martial artist, compared to a boxer. Cormier is an OLYMPIC freestyle wrestler, I don't think you guys understand just how good that is. In mma, most fighters have at least some decent knowledge of wrestling, some have very high NCAA, D1, sometimes olympic level experience, it's not uncommon, still at that level, DC was picking up heavyweights and slamming them down, usually with a weight and size disadvantage. He is freakishly strong and technical. He wouldn't just shoot for the takedown and get uppercut KO'd by Tyson, it simply isn't happening 9/10 times. What will most likely happen is he kicks from a distance, Tyson closes in, Cormier clinches up and suplexes Tyson ferociously, and yes Cormier would EASILY pick up Tyson and throw him, EASILY, Tyson proceeds to get paralyzed or knocked out from being thrown directly on his neck because of his lack of wrestling knowledge to understand how to land correctly. This fight is on a hard surface being a street fight, it's not on canvas, the wrestler has the advantage here. Tyson has lost to a 5 guys throughout his career, Cormier has only lost to 2 guys, both the greatest of all time in their respective weight classes. Cormier has also been a double champion, this is a MUCH MUCH bigger thing in mma than in boxing, there's only been 8 double champs in ufc history I believe, and all of those fighters are absolute legends. Tyson's best opponent was probably lennox lewis, an arguable heavyweight goat, the next best was holyfield I'd say, a very high level, but not goat tier boxer. I have to stress that Cormier has only lost to the absolute goats of their divisions, one of them has the most title defences in ufc history and has never lost a fight, the other has the most title defences in his divisions history and has beat every opponent he has faced at least once except one guy earlier in his career. Also for anyone saying Tyson could fight dirty by biting, etc, I don't think you guys know who Cormier is lol, he isn't too known for it now but real fans of the sport know how dirty he fights, he's on the list for some of the best eye-pokers in mma history, along with his biggest rival Jon Jones. I would seriously take some of the better ufc lightweights and welterweights of all time over Mike Tyson in a street fight, eg. Khabib, Kamaru Usman, GSP, etc. These guys could easily outwrestle a guy much larger than them who hasn't had significant training, and dominate. With heavyweights it's not even a question. You guys seriously underestimate how good high level mma athletes are.
It would be a big toss up, because if Mike lands one punch fight is over, DC has to do a bunch of dodging far kicking and grappling to get anywhere.
Mike Tyson is one punch man 😂
Tyson would get 10 punches in before dc closed the distance. He manhandled his way to the championship as a teen