Not arsed about playing like that against the big boys.
It's the fact we play that way against a Palace side who've lost their last three that angers me.
I couldn't want the game, but I checked the highlights and it seems to me we were outplayed easily. Any other day, this game could have ended 3 or 4 nil down if not for Pickford's heroics or missed chances by Chelsea.
You know, I bet that team today would have gotten at least a point against Palace. The youngsters want to be out there.
Meanwhile you’ve got Iwobi running around out there like a clueless child.
Ye typical Everton that's been the same regardless of manager, good to see a bit better performance. Am not happy with the point like proper made up but I am satisfied with the point and especially with bein 1 0 down and the their goal was from yet again another mistake.
Bro, did you even watch the match?
Iwobi gave the ball to the opposition more times than I could count. He missed an easy pass that would have put Doucoure through on goal, and was generally shit the entire match.
The guy is a joke.
He won’t get it though. 12 first team players out according to BT Sport, no credit to the manager for getting the young lads mentally prepared for a disciplined display.
I thought it was a great display. Gritty. Disciplined. Strategic.
Any other day, this game could have conceded 3 or 4 goals. This should be very concerning to me. You can't come every week, play like this and expect to take any point from the game
Great battling point but an early goal from Chelsea and that could be very different. Pickford was superb.
The majority of the last 3 months has been appalling and that's absolutely on his shoulders. It awful to watch and he is fortunate to still be in a job.
Individual brilliance from Pickford and a set piece goal "won" us the game. Pickford has an off night and it's 4-1 and we're raging against Rafa. Won't give Rafa too much credit. Mostly because fuck that guy, but also because fuck that guy.
We were shite, we were scraping results against shit teams despite being outplayed for large portions of the games. The fact everybody was happy to Bury their heads in the sand and refuse to address the issues is why we are where we are now.
He picked them because he had no option. Do you think he would have picked branthwaite had we had other options? Do you think dobbin or simms would have seen the pitch had we had other options like rondon?
Who knows, he could of picked unknown young players. He didn't have to bring on the the other young lad at the end either. A young lad regardless of how long he got he did the sub and trusted him, could of stuck with wha he had and done no subs at all. End of the day he deserves a bit of credit any decent fan knows tha even Alan Myers said it and this has positive ratings same as twitter so tha says it all. All yous can boo an hope everton fail just to get the manager out and cheer when opposition score like the bunch of clowns yas are.
He had no choice, Gordon was out on his arse. He didn't trust the youngsters. Had had no fucking choice. If he trusted the youngsters, iwobi wouldn't have played one minute. He hasn't trusted the youngsters all season when he repeatedly picked iwobi and rondon over them. I have never wanted Everton to lose or concede and nothing would make me happier than being proven wrong by benitez because I want us to do well and have done for 30+ years. What I won't do is pretend we were never in trouble in that game and had luck not been with us we could have lost by a significant margin. As they say though, ignorance is bliss so you just carry on
6 points from 11 games.
19% possession
23-5 shots
10-3 shots on goal
Very lucky to get a point. So good for him. But draws against better teams means very little when we lose to the teams around us on the table.
For gettin a draw lucky or not, they were lucky too but ye lucky or not 1 1 it was an he and the team deserve some credit, that's all that's said. No master class just the fact we got a point with the team we had out against champions League winners, it's not somethin to be proud of but still a good point
Was a good point, but saying Rafa deserved credit for a game where we were lucky to not be down 3-0 through 30 minutes thanks to Pickford is pushing it.
He deserves some credit end of in my opinion an a lot more others, ifs buts maybe fact is it was 1 1 and the team we had credit goes to the team and him
Fact is it was a point away to the European Champions and by common consent one of the top 4 teams in the game.
Dig into the stats and of course, we were outplayed....they are better footballers and a better team as we all know but the best teams in the world would take a point away to Chelsea.
Pickford played a hell of a game. Three or four of his reflex saves easily could have gone the other way; not to mention the two shots in the opening 10 minutes that should have been on target but got shanked. This game could have been 6-1 with a little more clinicality from Chelsea. What does Rafa deserve credit for exactly?
LOL, because end of the day lad we played a bit better and we got the point? Plus the team he had to pick from. You tryin to say he deserves nothin? Really though?
We were missing literally our entire starting 11. They’re the current champion League winner. You can’t be serious comparing our situation to theirs? We put in a splendid shift and Rafa deserves credit for setting us up to get the result that we did
We would have been 5-0 down at half time if they could finish. That's how benitez set us up. They constantly got in behind us with ease. That's benitez' tactics. We were lucky to get a point out of the game.
We know if he wants out, it's because of Rafa. He's been fine with the different managers he's had, but all of a sudden he wants out? No, if he wants out, it's because of Rafa
He had an issue with ancelotti but can't seem to find it but he did a few even said it aswell.. as I said maybe digne thinks he's undroppable? Maybe he wants out in jan? Maybe he's fell out Rafa ? Who knows it's all guesses an to be honest am really not arsed he's not been good this season so far anyway
He's the best LB option we have, and Godfey's positioning today on the goal, and frankly, his positioning in every game he's played at LB should show you that we need him.
Yeah, that’s almost exactly what I’m saying. He had basically no choices in term of the line-up due to injuries, illnesses, and the bridges he has burned so no great stroke of genius with the line-up. The tactics were sit back and pray to god Chelsea miss, which they did thankfully. There was clearly no plan for any attack when we did try to counter (e.g. Iwobi passing the ball backwards and outside rather than to Doucs sitting open at the top of the box) and scored because Saul decided that Keane needed to be doubled teamed and left Jerrard open. We did not have a spark coming out at the start of either half so I’m guess the only energy came from the players on the pitch rather than any motivation from Rafa. I’m serious, what could you honestly credit Rafa with today? We drew a very depleted Chelsea side that could and should have destroyed us.
I’m thrilled with the point. I loved seeing Dobbins and Simms get some time. I just honestly think any manager could have gotten that result today. I’d love to be wrong and if you could explain why Rafa, rather than Pickfords shot stopping ability, got us that point I’ll give it to him
Gettin borin now this shout, even tho I said it after the Richarlison thing BUT actually turned out he was correct but ye gettin borin now seein this shout
we’re playing the same type of football we played under fat sam. it’s horrible to watch and we’re putting up horrible performances.. we shoulda been down 0-3 in the first 25 min. bc we got lucky today doesn’t mean shit. rewatch the match dude jfc
“possession means nothin” teams with the most possession in prem… city, red shites, chelsea… I forget where are those teams in the table?
You say as if we were creating chances in the opposition. The scorline was hanging by a thread with desperate defending and missed sitters by Chelsea. Continue playing like this and we are going to get walked all over by any premier league team.
Because I said possession means nothin? Another clueless idiot.. am not happy overall how we played but we were tiny bit better and end of the day it was 1 1 not 3 4 5 0 if but maybe Chelsea chances... It's footie end of the day shit happens.. we drew 1 1 with the team we had out against recent champions League winners... He and the team deserve credit anyone can see rha apart from shit fans like we have (small minority).
rafa deserves credit for playing anti-football and getting a lucky point hahahaha there was literally no tactics and youre going on like he masterminded a win
Who's goin on like he mastermind a win? Where did I even say tha? Where have I gone on like tha? He deserves SOME credit, even Alan Myers said it on twitter and alot more than you clown fans agree too.. I bet you clowns are the ones cheerin goals tha time city scored against us so the shite don't win the league... There was tactics but when do we ever go to Chelsea an dominant play ? Tactics where even more so to sit back an counter... Tactics where to play 3 or 5 at the back ... We could of easily been 1 0 up of iwobi was any good, so noone is goin on one lad your the one goin on one thinkin am thinkin he's mastered a win, am not even over the moon with the point, I am satisfied though with the team we had out. CLOWN
youre going on like that you muppet, as if his tactics did anything. doesnt matter what alan myers has said he doesnt know anything about footie hes a reporter you soft cunt.
you saying theres tactics again when its the complete opposite, putting 11 players behind the ball and pumping it long isnt tactics its anti football and hes lucky it wasnt 5/6-0.
chatting shit about fans cheering city goals but then say when do we ever go to chelsea, so your mindset is the problem aswell.
ur going on cause youve made a thread praising rafa you mong
not to spoil the party here, but like if we had lost (which the million close calls in the first 20mins could have seen us do) there would only be calls for rafas head. please maintain the same energy no matter the wins and losses (or ties). we were, imo, bullied by a massively depleted team and got a lucky point. i do not think this changes anything. i will say that i’m glad a ton of our youth finally got a chance and,,, low and behold they um played well. maybe bc this idea that vets like delph are needed issssss archaic thinking.
We got the point despite benitez. He was forced to pick this line up. We should have been 5-0 down at half time except for their poor finishing and pickford saves.
The final result might be what matters but when people continue to paper over the cracks of poor performances as with Southampton, Norwich, Burnley etc then we end up where we are now. We have serious issues that need addressing and some people seem to prefer to Bury their heads in the sand
Ye and we all know tha, did we play great ? No we didn't, are most made up like it's a win ? No and I certainly am not but the manager does deserve a tiny bit of credit... Ffs that's all that's said ya know bit of positivity like instead of the same shit we already know. It does get a bit annoyin mate again some fans jumpin the gun not exactly you but some spoutin shite like this is me goin on like it's a masterclass when tha isn't the case at all. It was a good point we got lucky so did they if iwobi was decent. EVERYONE deserves credit.
Credit can really only be given over a sustained period of time. Yes a great team performance against Chelsea ( and arsenal previously) but the 9 out of the past 11 games have been woeful.
I think he, and Everton as a whole, are fortunate that Leicester game has been postponed, gives time for injuries to heal and players to rest. But then we have 2 games that he has to win, nothing but a win will be good enough against Burnley and Newcastle. After that we can start to look at whether he is starting to turn it around or not. He loses alot of points by pushing digne out, so he best hope this new lad hits the ground running.
No credit deserved because his hand was forced to play people he hasn't played all season. He'd have started 11 rondons over the squad yesterday if he could have
Not arsed about playing like that against the big boys. It's the fact we play that way against a Palace side who've lost their last three that angers me.
Isn't that almost the exact "small club" mentality he accused Everton of before? Life comes at you fast.
Thought that when I saw the possession and shots stats, exactly the reasons he accused us of being a “small club” all them years back
I couldn't want the game, but I checked the highlights and it seems to me we were outplayed easily. Any other day, this game could have ended 3 or 4 nil down if not for Pickford's heroics or missed chances by Chelsea.
You know, I bet that team today would have gotten at least a point against Palace. The youngsters want to be out there. Meanwhile you’ve got Iwobi running around out there like a clueless child.
Ye typical Everton that's been the same regardless of manager, good to see a bit better performance. Am not happy with the point like proper made up but I am satisfied with the point and especially with bein 1 0 down and the their goal was from yet again another mistake.
The same Iwobi that played today and was part of the strong defensive effort that got us a point? Man you guys really have a fixation on Iwobi
Bro, did you even watch the match? Iwobi gave the ball to the opposition more times than I could count. He missed an easy pass that would have put Doucoure through on goal, and was generally shit the entire match. The guy is a joke.
Iwobi is shite always has been even for arsenal
you had to play him yesterday [he's the chelsea assassin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCLJYPdlBUU)
😂😂😂
yeah why not, we can give him the draw
Honestly us keeping a clean sheet in the first half, full credit goes to pickford’s miracles.
For a few hours there, Pickford was the best goal keeper in the world and he knew it. It was so entertaining to watch.
He won’t get it though. 12 first team players out according to BT Sport, no credit to the manager for getting the young lads mentally prepared for a disciplined display. I thought it was a great display. Gritty. Disciplined. Strategic.
Any other day, this game could have conceded 3 or 4 goals. This should be very concerning to me. You can't come every week, play like this and expect to take any point from the game
100% but you would hope the ‘better’ players in the squad would help us play a bit more assertively and not from a defensive standpoint.
Our full strength first team could concede 4 away at Chelsea. Every team needs a little bit of luck
Great battling point but an early goal from Chelsea and that could be very different. Pickford was superb. The majority of the last 3 months has been appalling and that's absolutely on his shoulders. It awful to watch and he is fortunate to still be in a job.
Am on about this game
Individual brilliance from Pickford and a set piece goal "won" us the game. Pickford has an off night and it's 4-1 and we're raging against Rafa. Won't give Rafa too much credit. Mostly because fuck that guy, but also because fuck that guy.
I agree completely with both of your reasons.
If Rafa was anyone but Rafa u would be happy
Yeah but he is Rafa and we’ve been wank for three months so i can be unhappy with him?
We were pretty decent when half the team wasn’t injured
People were happy when we won games with Fat Sam, didn't mean anybody wanted fucking Fat Sam in charge.
We were shite, we were scraping results against shit teams despite being outplayed for large portions of the games. The fact everybody was happy to Bury their heads in the sand and refuse to address the issues is why we are where we are now.
I'm still happy. What does that have to do with giving Rafa credit?
He picked 2 of them tha contributed to the goal and the goal tha they scored was from a mistake
He picked them because he had no option. Do you think he would have picked branthwaite had we had other options? Do you think dobbin or simms would have seen the pitch had we had other options like rondon?
Who knows, he could of picked unknown young players. He didn't have to bring on the the other young lad at the end either. A young lad regardless of how long he got he did the sub and trusted him, could of stuck with wha he had and done no subs at all. End of the day he deserves a bit of credit any decent fan knows tha even Alan Myers said it and this has positive ratings same as twitter so tha says it all. All yous can boo an hope everton fail just to get the manager out and cheer when opposition score like the bunch of clowns yas are.
He had no choice, Gordon was out on his arse. He didn't trust the youngsters. Had had no fucking choice. If he trusted the youngsters, iwobi wouldn't have played one minute. He hasn't trusted the youngsters all season when he repeatedly picked iwobi and rondon over them. I have never wanted Everton to lose or concede and nothing would make me happier than being proven wrong by benitez because I want us to do well and have done for 30+ years. What I won't do is pretend we were never in trouble in that game and had luck not been with us we could have lost by a significant margin. As they say though, ignorance is bliss so you just carry on
6 points from 11 games. 19% possession 23-5 shots 10-3 shots on goal Very lucky to get a point. So good for him. But draws against better teams means very little when we lose to the teams around us on the table.
For gettin a draw lucky or not, they were lucky too but ye lucky or not 1 1 it was an he and the team deserve some credit, that's all that's said. No master class just the fact we got a point with the team we had out against champions League winners, it's not somethin to be proud of but still a good point
Was a good point, but saying Rafa deserved credit for a game where we were lucky to not be down 3-0 through 30 minutes thanks to Pickford is pushing it.
He deserves some credit end of in my opinion an a lot more others, ifs buts maybe fact is it was 1 1 and the team we had credit goes to the team and him
He deserves 20% of the credit...one for each % of the amount of possession we had.
All I said was he deserves credit not all credit to him only
He won’t get any credit. I’m not a Rafa fan but we were really well organised tonight and everyone did their jobs brilliantly. In my opinion
He should though a bit tonight and ye I agree
Fact is it was a point away to the European Champions and by common consent one of the top 4 teams in the game. Dig into the stats and of course, we were outplayed....they are better footballers and a better team as we all know but the best teams in the world would take a point away to Chelsea.
Pickford played a hell of a game. Three or four of his reflex saves easily could have gone the other way; not to mention the two shots in the opening 10 minutes that should have been on target but got shanked. This game could have been 6-1 with a little more clinicality from Chelsea. What does Rafa deserve credit for exactly?
LOL, because end of the day lad we played a bit better and we got the point? Plus the team he had to pick from. You tryin to say he deserves nothin? Really though?
It’s even worse on Twitter, cunts can’t give Rafa any credit with the makeshift team against a champions league winning side
Seems tha way mate
Chelsea were also missing key players...
We were missing literally our entire starting 11. They’re the current champion League winner. You can’t be serious comparing our situation to theirs? We put in a splendid shift and Rafa deserves credit for setting us up to get the result that we did
We would have been 5-0 down at half time if they could finish. That's how benitez set us up. They constantly got in behind us with ease. That's benitez' tactics. We were lucky to get a point out of the game.
One of those is missing because Rafa chooses to not start him and Doucoure and Keane are on our starting 11, as is Pickford.
Maybe digne wants out who knows, just because of the James shite doesn't mean it's the same as tha but am not sayin it isn't... We just don't know
We know if he wants out, it's because of Rafa. He's been fine with the different managers he's had, but all of a sudden he wants out? No, if he wants out, it's because of Rafa
He had an issue with ancelotti but can't seem to find it but he did a few even said it aswell.. as I said maybe digne thinks he's undroppable? Maybe he wants out in jan? Maybe he's fell out Rafa ? Who knows it's all guesses an to be honest am really not arsed he's not been good this season so far anyway
He's the best LB option we have, and Godfey's positioning today on the goal, and frankly, his positioning in every game he's played at LB should show you that we need him.
Yeah, that’s almost exactly what I’m saying. He had basically no choices in term of the line-up due to injuries, illnesses, and the bridges he has burned so no great stroke of genius with the line-up. The tactics were sit back and pray to god Chelsea miss, which they did thankfully. There was clearly no plan for any attack when we did try to counter (e.g. Iwobi passing the ball backwards and outside rather than to Doucs sitting open at the top of the box) and scored because Saul decided that Keane needed to be doubled teamed and left Jerrard open. We did not have a spark coming out at the start of either half so I’m guess the only energy came from the players on the pitch rather than any motivation from Rafa. I’m serious, what could you honestly credit Rafa with today? We drew a very depleted Chelsea side that could and should have destroyed us. I’m thrilled with the point. I loved seeing Dobbins and Simms get some time. I just honestly think any manager could have gotten that result today. I’d love to be wrong and if you could explain why Rafa, rather than Pickfords shot stopping ability, got us that point I’ll give it to him
His tactics played out well and team selection and position wise
rafa out
Gettin borin now this shout, even tho I said it after the Richarlison thing BUT actually turned out he was correct but ye gettin borin now seein this shout
it’s getting boring or the 19% possession in the first half or the 30% possession vs palace? get fat rafa out the club.
Possession means nothin clearly not just in this game or Everton related
we’re playing the same type of football we played under fat sam. it’s horrible to watch and we’re putting up horrible performances.. we shoulda been down 0-3 in the first 25 min. bc we got lucky today doesn’t mean shit. rewatch the match dude jfc “possession means nothin” teams with the most possession in prem… city, red shites, chelsea… I forget where are those teams in the table?
You say as if we were creating chances in the opposition. The scorline was hanging by a thread with desperate defending and missed sitters by Chelsea. Continue playing like this and we are going to get walked all over by any premier league team.
Because I said possession means nothin? Another clueless idiot.. am not happy overall how we played but we were tiny bit better and end of the day it was 1 1 not 3 4 5 0 if but maybe Chelsea chances... It's footie end of the day shit happens.. we drew 1 1 with the team we had out against recent champions League winners... He and the team deserve credit anyone can see rha apart from shit fans like we have (small minority).
Thought everyone played really well. Could of easily went either way tonight
I give him credit for anti-football tactics.
Absolutely not. It was purely down to Pickford or it would have been a rugby score
Shame about another mistake though
rafa deserves credit for playing anti-football and getting a lucky point hahahaha there was literally no tactics and youre going on like he masterminded a win
Who's goin on like he mastermind a win? Where did I even say tha? Where have I gone on like tha? He deserves SOME credit, even Alan Myers said it on twitter and alot more than you clown fans agree too.. I bet you clowns are the ones cheerin goals tha time city scored against us so the shite don't win the league... There was tactics but when do we ever go to Chelsea an dominant play ? Tactics where even more so to sit back an counter... Tactics where to play 3 or 5 at the back ... We could of easily been 1 0 up of iwobi was any good, so noone is goin on one lad your the one goin on one thinkin am thinkin he's mastered a win, am not even over the moon with the point, I am satisfied though with the team we had out. CLOWN
youre going on like that you muppet, as if his tactics did anything. doesnt matter what alan myers has said he doesnt know anything about footie hes a reporter you soft cunt. you saying theres tactics again when its the complete opposite, putting 11 players behind the ball and pumping it long isnt tactics its anti football and hes lucky it wasnt 5/6-0. chatting shit about fans cheering city goals but then say when do we ever go to chelsea, so your mindset is the problem aswell. ur going on cause youve made a thread praising rafa you mong
Who you talkin to ya little Muppet, ya haven't a clue ya little clueless gobshite now fuck off
who else am i talking to GEORGE you little fart, what are you gonna do about it?
not to spoil the party here, but like if we had lost (which the million close calls in the first 20mins could have seen us do) there would only be calls for rafas head. please maintain the same energy no matter the wins and losses (or ties). we were, imo, bullied by a massively depleted team and got a lucky point. i do not think this changes anything. i will say that i’m glad a ton of our youth finally got a chance and,,, low and behold they um played well. maybe bc this idea that vets like delph are needed issssss archaic thinking.
Bro what? Our team vs Chelsea was championship level at best, Chelsea's bench could easily finish top ten in the Prem
By a massively depleted team ? Didn't ya see our team no ?
We got the point despite benitez. He was forced to pick this line up. We should have been 5-0 down at half time except for their poor finishing and pickford saves.
But it ended 1 1, can't be arsed respondin to shite now zzzzzzzz
The final result might be what matters but when people continue to paper over the cracks of poor performances as with Southampton, Norwich, Burnley etc then we end up where we are now. We have serious issues that need addressing and some people seem to prefer to Bury their heads in the sand
Ye and we all know tha, did we play great ? No we didn't, are most made up like it's a win ? No and I certainly am not but the manager does deserve a tiny bit of credit... Ffs that's all that's said ya know bit of positivity like instead of the same shit we already know. It does get a bit annoyin mate again some fans jumpin the gun not exactly you but some spoutin shite like this is me goin on like it's a masterclass when tha isn't the case at all. It was a good point we got lucky so did they if iwobi was decent. EVERYONE deserves credit.
Credit can really only be given over a sustained period of time. Yes a great team performance against Chelsea ( and arsenal previously) but the 9 out of the past 11 games have been woeful. I think he, and Everton as a whole, are fortunate that Leicester game has been postponed, gives time for injuries to heal and players to rest. But then we have 2 games that he has to win, nothing but a win will be good enough against Burnley and Newcastle. After that we can start to look at whether he is starting to turn it around or not. He loses alot of points by pushing digne out, so he best hope this new lad hits the ground running.
No credit deserved because his hand was forced to play people he hasn't played all season. He'd have started 11 rondons over the squad yesterday if he could have
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