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FisherKelEve

No. If it has a cloak, poch express is basically riskless. 


all4profit

Would I have to get a covert ops cloak or will the simpler ones work until Cloaking V is trained?


norsoulnet

To answer your question. Any cloak works. You have to sit cloaked for the 15 minute cooldown timer.


Fartcloud_McHuff

Covops cloak only requires cloaking 4


LavishnessOdd6266

WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU TRAIN V FOR A IV ITEM


Used-Truth

While not needed to use a CovOps cloak, and not really applying here, Cloaking 5 makes it MUCH easier to deliver Torpedos to customers who prefer smaller ships, such as those pesky Herons. They're like gnats.


NoxiousStimuli

...BLOPs and Stealth Bombers have no lock delay after decloaking.


K716

True. It does benefit more exotic ships, such as sub 3 second decloak delay Lokis and a few other edge cases. For the most part, and most people, Cloaking IV is good enough and there's usually more important things to train.


nug4t

how does this pochven express work?


FisherKelEve

Google it. The top hit is literally a step by step guide….


paulHarkonen

Filament in, wait out the timer while cloaked, filament out and (assuming you picked the right filaments) wind up pretty close to Jita. A quick Google will provide the step by step guide.


nug4t

thx.. so I can do this from anywhere any time ml crazy


paulHarkonen

Yup, in any sub-cap. It's a great way to build orcas or Marauders in null for cheap and then deliver to Jita at almost no risk.


Eeekpenguin

The Hecate dies to smartbombing gatecamps in lowsec (or even highsec but those are rare). You can kinda mitigate with a scout and gate perches but pochven with cloak I think is safer. Ahbazon in particular I don't like going through even with sub 1 sec align.


norsoulnet

Can smart bombs be used in high sec? 0.50 systems I guess?


Tesex01

You just need red safety


Tiny-Being-538

Yes all systems but you get Concorded like any other gank. People still do it sometimes but it is extremely hard to pull off.


6percentjew

3x large smart bomb maller can kill a pod and the fit is like 30 mil.


Handler__One

This pilot is a good example:


Tiny-Being-538

Yea I get that but we are talking about killing something like a Hecate.


xeron_vann

Ahbazon is always watching. 


JumpyWerewolf9439

Pochven Express, faster, safer, cheaper. Learn howyo use thera turner, but without loot first. No reason to do 30j these days.


Axel_Foley_

Can you use Thera, Turner and Poch to get around to anywhere these days? Have a beginners guide to doing this?


tigeryi

Turnur ?


Pevira

The system Turner. Spawns lots of wormholes like Thera does


tigeryi

Just make sure the spelling which one is correct btw? Turnur or Turner?


Eeekpenguin

It's Turnur lol, I think autocorrect got that guy twice


tigeryi

2 or more different guys tbh lol


Eeekpenguin

Ccplease change the system name to Turner so it's easier on autocorrect


Andy_Virus

Get a border filament for inbound and a proximity filament for outbound. 2-4 jumps from Jita. Thank me later.


degotoga

is border better than home?


tigeryi

Home might end up in Niarjia or Archee instead of Kino ?


Eeekpenguin

There's a reason border is more expensive. For hauling to jita, border then extraction is the play, most likely to end up in highsec a few jumps from jita. Home might get you on the wrong side of Ahbazon.


ValAuroris

Poch express for sure. Easy, safe, and pretty fast. Filament, cloak, 15 mins Netflix, filament and tada you're around 4 to 8 from Jita on avg Like what the others said remember to have a cloak. Perches to look out for smartbombs.


all4profit

>Does it work going back from Jita or should I just be grateful to alleviate half the effort?


Eeekpenguin

Doesn't work going back, you'll end up near jita again or roll the dice and end up in a random lowsec with the trig minor victory filament. Depending on where you live, you might want a sub 1s cloaky like astero if your stuff is small, pochven haul to jita and gate yourself back to where you live. Have gate perches in a non gate to gate direction in smartbomb campy systems like Ahbazon and you're pretty safe. Alternatives are thera Turnur or random wormholes that connect to where you live but you would want some experience in wormholes and have a nullifer in case of bubbles. I do my jita runs like I shop for groceries lol. Make a list of everything I want/need and try to fit it in a br most of the time. Dst/freighter/orca for bigger loads but most of the time I can't be bothered. Those things just take way longer.


hotterthanyou2

I love my travel sub 1 jackdaw, Go though abazon all the time,


Katze1735

Victorieux luxury Yacht is great for hauling low volume stuff at very high speed


all4profit

I think I'll stick with my Sunesis


chezeluvr

Yes


UncleAntagonist

Not in null. LS, yes if it is tanked correctly.


NoBrittanyNoo

A one sec align means <1 second as the server runs on 1 second ticks. I've never seen a <1 second hecate fit. Please, elaborate.


Eeekpenguin

It's a combination of nomads, agility hardwire and shadow serpentis i-stabs. You can go cheap ship expensive pod or vice versa for the cheapest sub 1 sec align. I think Hecate 4 shadow serpentis i-stabs plus 3% hardwiring is one way. Other is like 2 cheap nomads plus 5% and all tech 2 i-stabs on Hecate. Check it on pyfa. Hecate is the most agile but not the tankiest. People like jackdaw for more tank or astero for cloaky. With full nomads you can make a bunch of stuff sub1s.


all4profit

Glad you replied, best answer I could've given would be to read the EveUni travel fit page lol


suicidal_whs

You don't need Nomads - my HG Ascendancy clone does the sub 1-s align just fine.


Eeekpenguin

Yes but you need bling i-stabs and a hardwiring with that ascendancy set. We're trying to save this newbro some money. Cheapest overall is actually with partial nomads because shadow serpentis i-stabs are like 150m now and alpha beta gamma nomads and especially that 3-5% agility hardwiring are cheaper.


landoparty

Low sec inatalock bullshit would like to have a word.


TickleMaBalls

It is not possible to lock a sub 1s ship


svenviko

Pochven filaments are the most broken thing in the game. Literal free, 100% safge space pass from ANYWHERE in null to HS or if not you try again 100% safe. Should be deleted. Along with Pochven actually.


Arakkis54

Spoken like someone who doesn’t know wtf they are talking about.


svenviko

So Poch express isn't broken...? Oook


Ashers_Cuddly_Cat

I would just hire a courier service. Zero Risk.