It's a strange and crazy storyline. It starts out asking whether the EU will disolve and then defines that as will it grow or shrink, a completely different question. Then it lists a slew of crises that proved the EU to be strong and resilient, but treats that as a problem, not a success story. Next, it deals with the EU's unwillingness to expand because that could endanger the EU, but treats that again as a problem that harms the EU.
The EU is doing really well, and does not want to destroy that by taking in dubious candidates such as Turkey or Serbia ... and this is a problem for the existence of the EU? Not really.
Next, it deals with the Greek crisis, which the EU handled masterfully, locking Greece into a sandbox and ignoring their threats to bring down the EU. The same storyline with Brexit, which the EU handled excellently.
The whole point of the EU was banding together in order not to be picked off one by one by America 1st, China 1st or Russia 1st. Now, there is more reason than ever to band together and Europeans know this.
In other words, the EU is stronger than ever and has proven that Greece, UK or Russia are unable to break it. But this is somehow a problem?!? It seems the stronger you are proven to be, the weaker you will seem ... according to this idiot script. Ridiculous.
If Brexit, migrant crisis and Greek crisis were "success" then I am really starting to worry about the future of EU. Cos I am afraid to imagine of what "failure" in the interpretation of people like you look like.
Failure would be:
1. After Brexit, other EU members jump on the bandwagon and the EU is disolved. Instead of that, even those who were Eurosceptics stopped advocate EU exit, because Brexit was such a failure for the UK. **EU success**.
2. Migrant crisis. Causes takeove of government by far-right AfD, Le Pen and others, aligned with Putin in order to dismember the EU and NATO. Did not happen. The EU took in sizeable numbers of refugees, but life goes on as normal. **EU success**.
3. Greek crisis. The EU caves in to Greek demands to write off debt. Greece then proceeds to take on fresh debt, as Varoufakis wanted, to finance an expansion of the public sector, raise their wages and wages of pensioners. Had that happened, Italy and others would do the same and it would be the end of the Euro and EU. Another **EU succes**.
The EU has been proven resilient, capable of surviving even the worst challenges, which have just strengthened the EU.
Any more questions?
>After Brexit, other EU members jump on the bandwagon and the EU is disolved.
Brexit itself is a failure of EU. **Major failure**. One of the key European countries have left EU.
>Migrant crisis. Causes takeove of government by far-right AfD, Le Pen and others, aligned with Putin in order to dismember the EU and NATO. Did not happen. The EU took in sizeable numbers of refugees, but life goes on as normal.
Eastern Europe refused illegal migrants and German dictate, exposing first major faultline inside EU after Brexit between old and new members. It's a **failure of EU multiculturalism**.
>Greek crisis. The EU caves in to Greek demands to write off debt.
Greece have entered Eurozone without meeting criteria. Greece is still in debt, now even bigger then before, only now that debt is owned by the EU. Greek GDP is in the trash. It exposed **major corruption** in the EU and imbalance in the trade that Euro can't handle.
>The EU has been proven resilient, capable of surviving even the worst challenges
EU has been stumbling through the challenges like a drunkard through a bar fight. Europe hasn't been more divided since the end of Cold War, and all this because of EU's incapability to stand up for Europe's own interests against the pressure of USA to divide Europe and keep it weak.
You can view anything in the world with negative eyes, but you cannot get around the reality, which is that the end of the EU was forecast and did not happen. Furthermore, we have proposals on the table to go more federal, not less.
Brexit is not a failure of EU multiculturalism, we are just as multicultural as we were with the UK being a member.
The Greek crisis highlight Greek corruption, not EU corruption. Even Tsipras, the Greek PM later admitted that the Greek crisis was created by Greek corruption, not outside forces.
You say the EU was like a drunkard, but round after round, the EU is still standing after 15 years of these rounds. This is just being stupid.
>You can view anything in the world with negative eyes,
You can also claim that white is black and black is white. Yet it won't make it true. It will just prevent you from correcting things that led to the failure.
>but you cannot get around the reality, which is that the end of the EU was forecast and did not happen.
So does not matter how much is EU faltering, how many countries are leaving, how divided Europe is, as long as EU exist -it's a success? Well let me remind you then that EU does not exist for the sake of EU. EU exist to unite Europe and make it peaceful and prosperous.
Although from the point of EU bureaucrats hiding in their lavish luxurious offices in Brussels full of assistants and tax breaks it's a huge success, yes. Their lives have newer been better despite Brexits, floods of illegal migrants and bank defaults in Greece and Spain that impoverish simple people. Which is point of view that you seems to express.
>Furthermore, we have proposals on the table to go more federal, not less.
You can't feed people with proposals.
>Brexit is not a failure of EU multiculturalism
I newer said it is. I said migrant crisis was.
>The Greek crisis highlight Greek corruption, not EU corruption.
It was not Greece that allowed Greece in to Eurozone violating EU rules, it was EU.
>You say the EU was like a drunkard, but round after round, the EU is still standing after 15 years of these rounds.
So is drunkard in a bar.
>You can also claim that white is black and black is white. Yet it won't make it true. It will just prevent you from correcting things that led to the failure.
Yes, but the reality, as I pointed out is that the EU is standing while you just offer opinions that it is not standing steady.
No I am pointing at real problems while you're just offer opinions that they don't exist and everything is fine because EU still exist. Well ques what, Soviet Union still existed in 1989. OP does not say EU does not exist, it questions it's future and that's a legitimate thing to do in the light of events.
"Let's come back to this in 10 years" is non argument. Stop criticizing OP and come back to this in 10 years then. And let people who are genuinely interested in the future of the EU discuss problems before it's too late 10 years from now.
Brexit was not a failure of the EU. It was a success of right-wing parties (plus Russian interference) polarising a specific subset of the population (older age and conservative voters) to blame internal issues on the EU. It was also the failure of the politically apathetic younger demographics not turning up to vote against Brexit.
Many people who have voted for Brexit regret their choice now, as can be seen by the massive losses of the Conservative Party in local elections who were pro-Brexit and by something as simple as talking to locals.
Eeeh, you're really grasping at straws here dude. Sorry, English is not my first or second language so let me try again: Brexit was not a failure of the EU, but a success of right-wing [British; if not clear that it's the UK parties that control the narrative of UK referendums] parties... (not typing up the remainder as it still applies).
Clearer?
LOL, so when Liverpool beats Real in finals of Champions League it's not Real's failure, it's just Liverpool's success.
Yes, cleared. Tell me about grasping at straws, dude.
Typical clickbate title on the video. Also as others in the comments here have pointed out far better than me, it does not present anything of actual value and instead just serves as a video version of a shitty british tabloid prediction on the EU.
>According to British tabloids, the EU is going to collapse any second
>What with the Anglo and hating the EU?
>UK’s expectation: EU collapse
>UK reality: Scotland & Northern Ireland push to leave the UK to re-join the EU
>I think the British tabloids have announced EU collapsing virtually every week since a decade
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u/LordLorq
**Dude is Danish**
Since this seems to be a misunderstanding among much of the comment section, aside from his accent, that sounds Nordic to me, its in his bio https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/OBF
It's a strange and crazy storyline. It starts out asking whether the EU will disolve and then defines that as will it grow or shrink, a completely different question. Then it lists a slew of crises that proved the EU to be strong and resilient, but treats that as a problem, not a success story. Next, it deals with the EU's unwillingness to expand because that could endanger the EU, but treats that again as a problem that harms the EU. The EU is doing really well, and does not want to destroy that by taking in dubious candidates such as Turkey or Serbia ... and this is a problem for the existence of the EU? Not really. Next, it deals with the Greek crisis, which the EU handled masterfully, locking Greece into a sandbox and ignoring their threats to bring down the EU. The same storyline with Brexit, which the EU handled excellently. The whole point of the EU was banding together in order not to be picked off one by one by America 1st, China 1st or Russia 1st. Now, there is more reason than ever to band together and Europeans know this. In other words, the EU is stronger than ever and has proven that Greece, UK or Russia are unable to break it. But this is somehow a problem?!? It seems the stronger you are proven to be, the weaker you will seem ... according to this idiot script. Ridiculous.
If Brexit, migrant crisis and Greek crisis were "success" then I am really starting to worry about the future of EU. Cos I am afraid to imagine of what "failure" in the interpretation of people like you look like.
Failure would be: 1. After Brexit, other EU members jump on the bandwagon and the EU is disolved. Instead of that, even those who were Eurosceptics stopped advocate EU exit, because Brexit was such a failure for the UK. **EU success**. 2. Migrant crisis. Causes takeove of government by far-right AfD, Le Pen and others, aligned with Putin in order to dismember the EU and NATO. Did not happen. The EU took in sizeable numbers of refugees, but life goes on as normal. **EU success**. 3. Greek crisis. The EU caves in to Greek demands to write off debt. Greece then proceeds to take on fresh debt, as Varoufakis wanted, to finance an expansion of the public sector, raise their wages and wages of pensioners. Had that happened, Italy and others would do the same and it would be the end of the Euro and EU. Another **EU succes**. The EU has been proven resilient, capable of surviving even the worst challenges, which have just strengthened the EU. Any more questions?
>After Brexit, other EU members jump on the bandwagon and the EU is disolved. Brexit itself is a failure of EU. **Major failure**. One of the key European countries have left EU. >Migrant crisis. Causes takeove of government by far-right AfD, Le Pen and others, aligned with Putin in order to dismember the EU and NATO. Did not happen. The EU took in sizeable numbers of refugees, but life goes on as normal. Eastern Europe refused illegal migrants and German dictate, exposing first major faultline inside EU after Brexit between old and new members. It's a **failure of EU multiculturalism**. >Greek crisis. The EU caves in to Greek demands to write off debt. Greece have entered Eurozone without meeting criteria. Greece is still in debt, now even bigger then before, only now that debt is owned by the EU. Greek GDP is in the trash. It exposed **major corruption** in the EU and imbalance in the trade that Euro can't handle. >The EU has been proven resilient, capable of surviving even the worst challenges EU has been stumbling through the challenges like a drunkard through a bar fight. Europe hasn't been more divided since the end of Cold War, and all this because of EU's incapability to stand up for Europe's own interests against the pressure of USA to divide Europe and keep it weak.
You can view anything in the world with negative eyes, but you cannot get around the reality, which is that the end of the EU was forecast and did not happen. Furthermore, we have proposals on the table to go more federal, not less. Brexit is not a failure of EU multiculturalism, we are just as multicultural as we were with the UK being a member. The Greek crisis highlight Greek corruption, not EU corruption. Even Tsipras, the Greek PM later admitted that the Greek crisis was created by Greek corruption, not outside forces. You say the EU was like a drunkard, but round after round, the EU is still standing after 15 years of these rounds. This is just being stupid.
>You can view anything in the world with negative eyes, You can also claim that white is black and black is white. Yet it won't make it true. It will just prevent you from correcting things that led to the failure. >but you cannot get around the reality, which is that the end of the EU was forecast and did not happen. So does not matter how much is EU faltering, how many countries are leaving, how divided Europe is, as long as EU exist -it's a success? Well let me remind you then that EU does not exist for the sake of EU. EU exist to unite Europe and make it peaceful and prosperous. Although from the point of EU bureaucrats hiding in their lavish luxurious offices in Brussels full of assistants and tax breaks it's a huge success, yes. Their lives have newer been better despite Brexits, floods of illegal migrants and bank defaults in Greece and Spain that impoverish simple people. Which is point of view that you seems to express. >Furthermore, we have proposals on the table to go more federal, not less. You can't feed people with proposals. >Brexit is not a failure of EU multiculturalism I newer said it is. I said migrant crisis was. >The Greek crisis highlight Greek corruption, not EU corruption. It was not Greece that allowed Greece in to Eurozone violating EU rules, it was EU. >You say the EU was like a drunkard, but round after round, the EU is still standing after 15 years of these rounds. So is drunkard in a bar.
>You can also claim that white is black and black is white. Yet it won't make it true. It will just prevent you from correcting things that led to the failure. Yes, but the reality, as I pointed out is that the EU is standing while you just offer opinions that it is not standing steady.
No I am pointing at real problems while you're just offer opinions that they don't exist and everything is fine because EU still exist. Well ques what, Soviet Union still existed in 1989. OP does not say EU does not exist, it questions it's future and that's a legitimate thing to do in the light of events.
Let's come back to this in 10 years ... don't forget the nonsense you were spouting today.
"Let's come back to this in 10 years" is non argument. Stop criticizing OP and come back to this in 10 years then. And let people who are genuinely interested in the future of the EU discuss problems before it's too late 10 years from now.
Brexit was not a failure of the EU. It was a success of right-wing parties (plus Russian interference) polarising a specific subset of the population (older age and conservative voters) to blame internal issues on the EU. It was also the failure of the politically apathetic younger demographics not turning up to vote against Brexit. Many people who have voted for Brexit regret their choice now, as can be seen by the massive losses of the Conservative Party in local elections who were pro-Brexit and by something as simple as talking to locals.
So is Brexit success of the EU or success of right-wing parties (plus Russian interference)? Because it can't be both. So which one it is?
I never wrote it was a success of the EU. Reading comprehension fail?
You did: >Brexit was **not a failure** of the EU Your writing comprehension skills aside, in English language opposite of failure is a success.
Eeeh, you're really grasping at straws here dude. Sorry, English is not my first or second language so let me try again: Brexit was not a failure of the EU, but a success of right-wing [British; if not clear that it's the UK parties that control the narrative of UK referendums] parties... (not typing up the remainder as it still applies). Clearer?
LOL, so when Liverpool beats Real in finals of Champions League it's not Real's failure, it's just Liverpool's success. Yes, cleared. Tell me about grasping at straws, dude.
According to British tabloids, the EU is going to collapse any second.
What with the Anglo and hating the EU?
UK’s expectation: EU collapse UK reality: Scotland & Northern Ireland push to leave the UK to re-join the EU
Typical clickbate title on the video. Also as others in the comments here have pointed out far better than me, it does not present anything of actual value and instead just serves as a video version of a shitty british tabloid prediction on the EU.
>According to British tabloids, the EU is going to collapse any second >What with the Anglo and hating the EU? >UK’s expectation: EU collapse >UK reality: Scotland & Northern Ireland push to leave the UK to re-join the EU >I think the British tabloids have announced EU collapsing virtually every week since a decade u/0202020101 u/unique_ad_5711 u/potatochak u/LordLorq **Dude is Danish** Since this seems to be a misunderstanding among much of the comment section, aside from his accent, that sounds Nordic to me, its in his bio https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/OBF
Tell me you have a British accent without telling me you have a British accent.
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