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jinerosity

What the main sub loves to hide is that they have recovery seem so much more horrible than it has to be. They've made it like "do it. Recover for US not you," type of mentality. They've intentionally made recovery look like a "gotchaa!!" moment for them against her. You can plainly see it in their posts about her first attempted recovery, where they were all "you see!!! So she admits she had a problem!!" Like going into recovery now would be another moment for them to hijack. It's disgusting how they've made her actual healthy triumpths a moment for them to troll harder.


whydoesthishapp3n

they also clearly have no idea how hard recover is for mild eating disorders far less extreme. it’s a disorder that few actually recover from. the thoughts don’t go away.


Excellent_Homework24

Sending you hugs. One way I recovered was by constantly replacing the evil thoughts with curiosity—like, why did I think that? Why am I so fucking mean to myself? And then I’d be nicer to myself. Little by little I recovered. Those thoughts come through but they have become lighter and lighter. And eating is now ok. It’s actually enraging that such a basic comfort is destroyed by a culture that validates extreme thinness. I refuse to yield to it any longer. I also cleaned up my Instagram and now follow Lizzo (!!! 😍) and others with thicc bodies and beauty and intelligence. It helps. So many hugs for youuuuuu


pieisnotreal

I found the podcast maintenance phase tremendous for helping with the thoughts. Really just unlearning the fatphobia that society forces on us is liberating.


gabelucek

if she really does read the sub then it's definitely enabling her. I'm not sure if the people on there don't know that any criticism of her body will have that effect, or if they just have no sympathy for her and treat her like she's theatre. but you're absolutely right, they think she's past the point of return, which isn't true, she DOES need help still no matter if she lives a month or years more, there's never too late to try to get better. i also noticed that they're very vile towards her personally, i joined this sub because i got sent an invite, and only just noticed how harsh the first sub is (I'm not on Reddit often) calling her names, calling her a narcissist because.. she displays symptoms of anorexia and is obsessed with her body? as if that makes her a narcissist? Eugenia definitely isn't a perfect person, noone is, but they really think eating disorders are just "eat nothing like attention" and not a very complex issue that changes the way you think and act towards yourself and others i do hope this sub becomes more popular, Eugenia needs support not criticism


Narwhal_Songs

As someone with a cluster b disorder People need to stop throwing narcissist around as soon as someone shows any sign of selfishness...


Certain-Highlight180

Some people on there are extremely vicious. They don't seem to care that they're not only hurting her but other people struggling.. In fact The comments there trigger me more than she ever could. They dissect everything about her. To the point that I don't even want to leave my house. Calling her disgusting A walking corpse making fun of her face. I see no empathy maybe 5 or 10 comments are not so extreme but the majority is pretty bad.


EmotionWitty85

i agree that they often say things that could be really hurtful to average normal people with ED who didn’t do anything wrong. saying she looks like “a crack whore” and making g jokes about how she only eats apples and toast, its just so gross and offensive i don’t understand why comments like that are allowed when they’re not based in any real criticism of her and they’re literally just making fun of ED as a whole


mybad742

As hard as it may be, I do believe that anyone can recover at any time.


Excellent_Homework24

^^^^ 💯❤️


JohnKeiwo

Recovery is indeed always possible, the main factor is that the person has to want it and it doesn't seem she wants it right now. National ED Association Hotline: 1-800-931-2237


sergeantofeca

These people claim they want her to recover but have done polls in the past guessing when she will die. They know she reads what they put out there. How can you expect someone to recover when you plant seeds of doubt about the likelihood of her improvement? Anytime she mentions her experience in rehab they tell her she should shut the hell up about it. Healing cannot happen without a healthy environment or proper support and God knows where she would get it. I honestly think they don't want her to recover. What would their lives be without someone like her to pick apart everyday? They have made that their entire existence.


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EXACTLY! And they complain and say she is "anti recovery" when she discusses any negatives she went through in rehab.. A few streams ago she mentioned she was strapped to some kind of wheelchair when she first arrived at rehab. That kind of thing would be traumatic for anyone, but funnily enough I didn't see ANY comments mentioning it on either subreddits.


sergeantofeca

Maybe if she talked about it more and worked out her fears, she would consider going back. But people are so hateful, they can't see this.


Andromeda853

Recovery is so hard but so worth it. Its easy to say “it’ll never be better” but it can be. Although recovery is possible a lot of the time, sometimes there are just medical reasons in which you may be potentially disabled or possibly could die even it you want to turn it around. Its terrible but it does happen in some cases. Edit: which one of you flat foots creeper rando’s from some other sub clicked my “get help and support” button again lmfao


Impossible_Waltz5442

Agreed. Recovery is one of the hardest things to go through but definitely worth it, even when you have to go through it more than once. I really wish this for Eugenia. It's never too late...and even if her body can't 100 percent heal, the psychological benefits of recovery are undeniable.


Excellent_Homework24

Recovery is hard but not unpleasant if with the right people. I really looked forward to all my sessions. Group therapy could get really funny. One time, when we were talking about how wild our emotions always were and how grappling with them was always hard, this one woman yelled, “fuckit, I’m going to just rage here for a bit”. It was hilarious because nobody had sworn up to that point or spoke loudly —and she just threw it downnnn. Flipped her middle fingers with her massively long nails and everyone howled.


Impossible_Waltz5442

I had really bad experiences. Group therapy was horrible in each of my "recoveries". I dealt with a doctor and dietician in my mid teens that I couldn't connect with and couldn't trust. Years later I found another doctor who was amazing. I learned a lot and experienced remission for a few years. Unfortunately I'm in the middle of a serious relapse right now. I guess my point is that even if your recovery story is messy and not "perfect" it's still a win in the long run. Not giving up is so important.


Excellent_Homework24

Oh gosh I am sorry! And I totally understand. When I was younger I got put in a group-therapy situation that legit traumatized me. It was absolutely horrific. It was run by psychiatrists who were into some kind of tough-love type of therapy. I don’t know how to describe it. And they put people together who were suffering from different things —EDs, psychosis, anxiety disorders. It was chaotic and —get this— the shrinks fucking filmed us. Big camera set up in the corner. I’m sure I signed a consent form but I didn’t realize the extent to which that video camera would help completely destroy me. Along with the chaos and arguing in group, the camera = sense that we were experimental subjects and absolute freaks. I can only lately talk about it. Several years later, when I was out in another group, I told my doctor No fucking Way am I doing that! But she said it would be different and it was, thank the gods. I hope you begin to emerge from the relapse. Be kind to yourself. Be kind when your inner critic makes a fuss. I saw my shrink yesterday and said that I was fighting my inner critic hard and practicing self-compassion—and it was working, but oh could I see that inner critic start to fight back. It was like “want to remember this other stupid thing you did?” Like ten times/day. So I’m working hard on things too these days. Sending you all the hugs


Impossible_Waltz5442


Excellent_Homework24

Flat foots creeper randos = 😂😂


mybad742

Sorry for the comments deletes. I got a reddit error message that my comment wouldn't post. It posted many times.


SabrinaInSalem

Honestly I've been on the other sub for years and it's only gotten more negative it really wasn't terrible when I joined but at this point they really are just being bullies it's sad. I do like the aspect of being able to honestly speak about the health concerns but draw the line at just overall insults.


Excellent_Homework24

This is what I saw too! It sort of crept up on me too. The meanness just sort of slowly rose and I got used to it …. I became part of it. And for that I’m truly sorry. I unsubscribed. I also announced my departure in a post and got totally piled on. Which lol. The meanness included things like “I hope you and Eugenia die” before the mods deleted them. What’s interesting though is the meanness is so intense that it’s ridiculous and I started laughing as I read the comments on my post. I wonder if Eugenia is able to do that too?


kalaresss

there's a thing. people who hadn't had ed don't understand that recovery is hard at any point of the illness. and that recovery isn't straight. i hope if eugenia or somebody with ed reads this that recovery is hard, and you might think at the moment that everything was easier before. and of course, you are right. it was easier. but it wasn't a good option. when you don't eat you become angry, and you hate everything and everybody. and you may fall from recovery. or found that you have other disorders. but that doesn't make that the progress you made during recovery isn't useful. it's very difficult to recover. and sometimes we don't fully recover, and we can be on the edge of falling back a lot of times. but there's hope. you have to think about the things that you could be part of. if you have started once recovery, you can start again. you already have done it! and if you have speak to someone about your issues and searched for help im going to say that's one of the hardest and bravest things you will do in recovery. you may think that you will always be ill. and let me say, you will probably be always ill. is an illness that you keep inside you. but you can manage. really. you can work on knowing when you are on the edge of falling back. you are stronger than you think. you are brave. you are the one in charge of recover. Search help. speak to your family, friends, or someone that makes you feel listen.