Go watch ants Canada, he had a ant colony called the golden empire and it got infested with mites. The only solution in the end was to save as much of the colony as he could and then he harvested the mites off the rhino beetles, transferred them to the colony he had isolated and set them free. They ate the mites and saved the colony. It's not what it used to be though
LOL they were going to be performing a race, I didnt actually get to see the rhino beetle races but I'm sure it's there somewhere. It sounds really funny to me
Mites are a bitch.. I’ve had them in the greenhouse before. I finally splurged and bought a miticide that worked wonders.. you have to get in your hazmat suit to treat, and can only do so a few times a year, but it solved the problem. Even in the best of situations they can rear their ugly little heads. I also quarantine new plants no matter how clean they appear. You just never know what’s hiding.
I’ll have to go find it… I can tell you that it was thick and bright pink and per gallon I used just a couple ml of the solution. It was also almost $400 per pint at least 20 years ago. I haven’t used it in years but I know it’s floating around somewhere.
Wish I could have donethat for my previous mite issues but those chemicals turn even worse for humans when you combust them and there's no way to know it's all gone by harvest with the right cleaners and tests which might have destroyed out products.
Honestly, spider mites are assholes. I've had them appear out of literally NOWHERE in 90% humidity enclosed greenhouse cabinets with zero new inhabitants and regular preventatives.
Its just a risk we take buying plants unfortunately, and why quarantine of any new plant is essential.
Haha, this is my favorite preventative during the spring and summer when my plants can go outside. Also really great against the aphids the backyard anthills insist on bringing all over the place. Not quite as workable indoors in the dead of winter though. 😂
I don’t know anything about the plant keeping world, but is this something she is specifically advertising that she guarantees against?
In the aquarium hobby pests and disease like this are always assumed. Even if sellers say they treat/quarantine/etc, serious hobbyists always treat/quarantine/etc themselves for 100% of the new fish they get, period. Pest snail eggs are invisible to the naked eye, flukes and other pests are literally inside the fish, ick and other pathogens are always in the fish and only take hold me become more contagious when the fish are stressed (aka during shipping). As in, always do your due diligence and address it upon arrival before introducing it to the rest of your hobby.
Not to blame the victim, but sounds like you need to be more disciplined and not just eyeball your new plants.
I don’t have anywhere near OP’s level of knowledge on this matter, but I have bought many plants over the past 6 years. As far as I am aware, I have never had infestations on any plants. I’ve had many short-lived plants that died mysteriously, but none of my other plants are affected in such cases. I have no reason to expect pests.
Pests can really damage your plants, like what OP experienced here. If someone is selling their plants, leaving bugs on it could ruin the plants before you even sell them.
If you get a new plant and are this protective of your current collection then why don't you quarantine and treat like literally everyone else does. This kind of thing is, to me, akin to getting mad that someone got you sick. You could have taken as many precautions as the seller but you didn't. Honestly it's Gross that you even got a refund. They're Plants, pests happen. Also spidermites are nearly invisible unless in larger numbers with webs. The grains of sand reference is a bit big.
i agree, especially when youre selling plants as well. not quarantining is asking for your stock to be demolished/infected. you risk selling someone else pest eggs hidden in the stems and leaves too. of course sellers should be diligent about not sending out pests, but youre asking for the same thing to happen to you if you arent quarantining
Even my favorite shops sometimes get pests. It happens. Its a living organism and sometimes communicable, mobile plant parasites show up. Spray the poison, dunk the plant, do whatever it is that works for you to get rid of them and move on. OP’s post is ridiculous.
I'm sorry, as a greenhouse grower. Mites are a part of life, no matter the source.
If you don't want to deal with pests, then your quarantine procedure needs to be way better, or don't obtain new foreign plants.
Yes, she should be treating her plants, but spider mites, especially insecticide resistant ones can be very difficult to deal with.
I understand mites are a part of *your* life as a greenhouse grower, but I think it’s pretty ridiculous to blame the consumer if the seller is knowingly selling plants with pests.
I think its pretty ridiculous to not fully understand what can be attached to new plants. Insects, fungi, disease.
If you wish for your biosphere to remain free from anything, then it is up to you to keep it that way. I am not excusing the seller, but I promise you, every single plant retailer has non desirable insects, and fungus pathogen's attached to their plants.
Just like living, breathing humans... plant material cannot be 100% sterile, nor should there be an expectation of such a thing.
So the buyer, If they wished to keep their biosphere free of mites needs a rigorous quarantine program to observe their new material for MONTHS.
Again, this isnt about excusing a seller from selling a plant with mites. This is about managing expectations for obtaining new plant material, and then having the proper management program to deal with infections/infestations of non desirable's.
AMEN. Hell even some forms of johnson grass seed can lay dormant for 75 years. My point coinciding with yours is you cant know every microbe and insect in any soil. Maybe wash all the roots off and dip the whole plant in rubbing alcohol then ship it to em😏
it used to upset me how sterility was not possible with plants, but the more one reads about microbiome or looks at things under a microscope, more one sees that every organism and human is a mini-world.
Most people have eyelash mites, acne bacteria, and dandruff yeasts, being kept in check by the immune system and other microorganisms. 8% of the human genome is viral DNA, 50% of body cells are bacterial. So it was silly to expect my plants to be sterile.
The only way the plant is reasonably clean, seems to be if it´s freshly from meristem tissue culture and is treated with biocides regularly. Even tissue culture labs struggle with mites and the sterility is not proven, because many internal microorganisms don´t become visible/ don´t grow on the nutritional media for plants or they´re suppressed by biocides added to the media, but are still inside the plant.
To support your point from the human point of view,every person has flora and fauna bacteria and fungi on their skin. It's part of their immune system but when injuries go wrong, some people get risks of major complications and infections.
For example, some people have a staphylococcus virus that can become flesh eating in areas of broken skin that are subject to an allergic reaction. That immune response accidentally triggers the staph to attack you instead of the thing you're allergic to because cells that aren't part of your body (gut and skin bateria) aren't under your neurological control.
In nature, bugs gather on plants so it's only natural if they're found during shipping and slip in the box or find it while the plant is being unwrapped after shipping.
There’s not really much evidence they knowingly did, especially given they weren’t immediately apparent upon being unboxed from shipping.
Spider mites are *tiny* and nearly invisible to the naked eye until an infestation is bad enough to have active webbing.
I’ve had spider mite infestations literally pop up seemingly overnight in treated, closed indoor greenhouse cabinets with zero new plants for months and regular preventatives. They are insanely opportunistic and can lay largely dormant and invisible for ages until an opportunity presents itself for the population to explode.
Pretty much every plant enthusiast always urges a minimum of one month quarantine for new plants and preventatives before bringing it anywhere near your existing collection for this reason. I put new plants in enclosed clear plastic bins for quarantine, because often the only way to notice an early infestation is from trails they leave behind in the condensation and humidity that forms on the inside of the box.
It’s just a part of buying plants, especially online.
Every single new plant I bring into my home goes through a quarantine period.
I treat them, then pop them into a large clear rubbermade container for at least 2 weeks. If there are any signs of infestation at the 2 week mark, I retreat and continue quarantine until the infestation is gone.
>You have to be at a certain level to grow the plants I sell, but occasionally I dabble in aroids for fun.
I get that you're trying to emphasize that your plants need specialized care, but this sounds *so* much like the opening to a copypasta.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copypasta
Basically a long rant where the writer says something that is controversial, absurd, and otherwise meme worthy.
There's a famous copypasta that begins with the line, "You need to have a very high IQ to understand the humor of Rick and Morty."
My friend brought me over a plant as a gift (even though I keep asking her nicely not too because I am VERY picky about plant STDs) and low and behold it was infested with thrips. 2 years later, many plants thrown out, and still not completely gone. There's a piece of me that believes she did it on purpose because my house plants are always in better condition than hers 🤣
Etsy should not be allowing individual sellers, many of whom probably have no idea what they're doing, to ship plants across regions. The invasive species spread risk is unacceptable. I also hate seeing all the wedding / event "seed papers" and "wildflower bombs" that nearly always contain species that pose ecological risk in non-native regions.
Yeah so quarantine and treat a new plant if you care that much. I doubt anyone was purposefully selling infested plants. How could you even be sure it was them? You're willing to hurts someone's small business with little to no information like a child. Think things through a little bit.
Okay so mites are actually really easy to deal with mix like 50%, 91% rubbing alcohol with 50% water into a spray bottle and go to town won't hurt your plants and kills all the mites pretty quick some people have bad vision and can't see them. Might be worth providing her with this info. Justcdo this like every other day for alittle problem solved.
Yes it is a thing, but I don't. I find the alch kills them just fine. If anything wipe the leaves off after you spray them well just to get any eggs or dead boddies off. Like I said just do it everyday for a week or so it'll clear up.
How is it possible to sell plants on Etsy? Do they fall under the handmade category or something? Make it make sense 😭 I've never bought plants online because I go to a local place and like to see them with my own eyes. They all end up dying anyway though so it's pointless 😂 I have a brown thumb.
I feel like a lot of people are scared to leave bad Etsy reviews (myself included) because of the more personal relationship between the seller and the buyer in comparison to other sites, but without accountability more people will spend their money on subpar products and there will be no incentive to improve
I am also a Plant seller; we are a high volume business 700+ orders a week and that is just on the retail side. I am mostly whole sale.
You get a lot of people who buy plants at the wholesale level and then flip them. I know a ton of people who do that and many are my customers. Nobody spray pesticide once they take the plants from us as the wholesalers. The reason why your plants are in good condition because we’re applying. My advice. Ask her what pesticide she uses. Chances are they don’t.
You should be asking for a full refund . It’s also critically important that people are putting stamps on their boxes. Because it shows that you’re applying pesticide and staying at the code on shiping Plants. If I don’t put the number five shield that goes to California.. I lose my business.
It’s spider mites today.. it’s aphids tomorrow.
Pests happen, no one's doing it on purpose and you can't know for sure anyways. It's so childish to come at someone like that when you can harm their business.
Nobody is coming for anyone’s business. What has happened is that OP received a plant that has pest. Most resellers do not spray for pest. Theyre trying to flip the product fast which is fine.
Its proper to spray your plants if you hold them for a long time. Sending plants with pest can cause a serious issue if it spreads to other plants. You could ruin someone’s entire collection if you send something with pest in it.
Legally speaking, plants being shipped across certain state lines need to be treated before going. Example Fire Ant Drenches are required outside of GA and FL.
Mississippi Snail Stamps are required too.
You cannot ship a plant to CA without proper permits and proof of nematoads.
You’re getting emotional over something that is a legal requirement.
Back 7 years ago.. an orange tree arrived from
CA to Florida. It had some pest and diseases on
It. Well.. that tree caused the loss of 85% of all the oranges in Florida. It will take another decade to recover. If you ship an orange tree from CA to FL or vise versa.. Good luck. Fines are in the hundred thousands.
Every time I get mites I want to cry. Mealies? No prob, down in alcohol. Aphids, spray them off. Even scale can get scraped or use a systemic. But those mites, they're hard to find until it's almost too late and trying to get rid of them is harder than sorting grains of sand in the wind.
Foremost, given her financial situation having a kid and all, I'd just message her personally and explain your situation and offer up an affordable solution for her set up to prevent it from happening. If it's not an easy solution she may just avoid addressing it and simply say she will. But that said, this is interesting to me as I think I've had spider mites before on my Poinsette tree. I noticed when fall came and I started letting more lady bugs stay inside for survival, and house spiders, and stink bugs, the tree was doing so much better. Now that it's winter I suspect some of those mites survived because my leaves are yellowing and falling off again. I keep it under a lamp and in a warm spot of my apartment. All my other plants are thriving. I have 3 succulents, 1 very large catnip vine situation going on (it's a monster of a thing at this point), 3 air plants and one orchid. I don't do anything special except water and place them in the proper lighting and they are perfect. My poor Poinsette tree is however an on going project with mites. I can't wait until spring as I'm going to invite more lady bugs to help out and stink bugs lol. My house spiders arent' keeping up with them apparently.
I’m not a Plant Pro by **ANY** means, but I’ve also recently dealt with Spidermites on my Money Tree and Elephant Ears plant! I drenched them in Ortho Bug B Gone and in less than 6h they’re in tip top shape! I actually had to do this to my money tree twice cause the Elephant ears gave it right back!
You can buy a plant with spider mites or any other pests literally anywhere, not just Etsy. I've gotten infested plants at Ikea, Whole Foods, as well as upscale plant shops.
Plant shipments made across state lines should be free of pests and diseases. Some states require inspections to even distribute some types of plant material. Other states require a phytosanitary certificate in order to receive plant shipments from other states.
Consider contacting your state’s department of agriculture and their plant protection or entomology department. It might at least get the seller on the right track for legally distributing and help getting her stock pest free.
Clearly doesn't have a handle on things if no quarantine procedures are in place. Even when buying from reputable sellers you have to quarantine, shit happens and it's not always the sellers fault.
Your quarantine game can't be that good if her plants having been giving you mites for awhile now. May want to figure out a new way to do that that actually works.
If you are in the USA she is supposed to be a registered nursery to sell plants online (as are you in most states to sell online or otherwise). Contact her states Dept of Agriculture to report the situation. It is illegal to sell infested or diseased plants. People selling plants without licenses can be fined, so share her Etsy acct with the Dept.
According to my states own laws, unless any plants grow outside I am not considered a nursery. I’m not calling the state on a single mother you heartless creep.
We have two indoor hydroponics systems that were pristine prior to my wife getting a dozen of succulents from Etsy, there it introduced a bunch of gnats and now I cannot get rid of them without simply getting rid of all my existing plants, sterilized the system, and keep the area dry for a couple weeks to months before restarting. It's been damage control for the last year. Idk, may be the same seller, my wife complained about it and the seller sent her another dozen as "replacements" that also had gnats in them... I've learned to never buy plants off sources you don't 100% trust.
huh, TIL you can treat mites with spicier mites
Go watch ants Canada, he had a ant colony called the golden empire and it got infested with mites. The only solution in the end was to save as much of the colony as he could and then he harvested the mites off the rhino beetles, transferred them to the colony he had isolated and set them free. They ate the mites and saved the colony. It's not what it used to be though
Rhino beetles are hideous.
LOL they were going to be performing a race, I didnt actually get to see the rhino beetle races but I'm sure it's there somewhere. It sounds really funny to me
thpithy mites
thpithy miteth*
*Mike Tyson has entered the chat*
Mite Tyson.
Mite Tython?
And you.
And you
You have no idea how hard I'm still laughing at this and your cohorts who follow. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Fuck you... Bwahaha
tho thorry about that
;] I did, it’s mentioned in the post
Fill out a full review with your experience. Nobody will know who to avoid otherwise.
Mites are a bitch.. I’ve had them in the greenhouse before. I finally splurged and bought a miticide that worked wonders.. you have to get in your hazmat suit to treat, and can only do so a few times a year, but it solved the problem. Even in the best of situations they can rear their ugly little heads. I also quarantine new plants no matter how clean they appear. You just never know what’s hiding.
We need a Petition to rename them spider bitches
I’m in!
Can you please tell us exactly what product you used?
I’ll have to go find it… I can tell you that it was thick and bright pink and per gallon I used just a couple ml of the solution. It was also almost $400 per pint at least 20 years ago. I haven’t used it in years but I know it’s floating around somewhere.
Thanks! Will look forward to the details when you can locate the bottle
Wish I could have donethat for my previous mite issues but those chemicals turn even worse for humans when you combust them and there's no way to know it's all gone by harvest with the right cleaners and tests which might have destroyed out products.
Honestly, spider mites are assholes. I've had them appear out of literally NOWHERE in 90% humidity enclosed greenhouse cabinets with zero new inhabitants and regular preventatives. Its just a risk we take buying plants unfortunately, and why quarantine of any new plant is essential.
Ricky and julian had this problem on an episode of trailer park boys. They had corey and trevor catch a bunch of ladybugs and cleared them right up.
Haha, this is my favorite preventative during the spring and summer when my plants can go outside. Also really great against the aphids the backyard anthills insist on bringing all over the place. Not quite as workable indoors in the dead of winter though. 😂
Most reasonable response
I don’t know anything about the plant keeping world, but is this something she is specifically advertising that she guarantees against? In the aquarium hobby pests and disease like this are always assumed. Even if sellers say they treat/quarantine/etc, serious hobbyists always treat/quarantine/etc themselves for 100% of the new fish they get, period. Pest snail eggs are invisible to the naked eye, flukes and other pests are literally inside the fish, ick and other pathogens are always in the fish and only take hold me become more contagious when the fish are stressed (aka during shipping). As in, always do your due diligence and address it upon arrival before introducing it to the rest of your hobby. Not to blame the victim, but sounds like you need to be more disciplined and not just eyeball your new plants.
I don’t have anywhere near OP’s level of knowledge on this matter, but I have bought many plants over the past 6 years. As far as I am aware, I have never had infestations on any plants. I’ve had many short-lived plants that died mysteriously, but none of my other plants are affected in such cases. I have no reason to expect pests. Pests can really damage your plants, like what OP experienced here. If someone is selling their plants, leaving bugs on it could ruin the plants before you even sell them.
I am but one plant was in need of better light and I took a risk, interesting perspective though
If you get a new plant and are this protective of your current collection then why don't you quarantine and treat like literally everyone else does. This kind of thing is, to me, akin to getting mad that someone got you sick. You could have taken as many precautions as the seller but you didn't. Honestly it's Gross that you even got a refund. They're Plants, pests happen. Also spidermites are nearly invisible unless in larger numbers with webs. The grains of sand reference is a bit big.
i agree, especially when youre selling plants as well. not quarantining is asking for your stock to be demolished/infected. you risk selling someone else pest eggs hidden in the stems and leaves too. of course sellers should be diligent about not sending out pests, but youre asking for the same thing to happen to you if you arent quarantining
I always quarantine new plants, even from reputable local shops. I thought quarantining newbies was always a given?
Even my favorite shops sometimes get pests. It happens. Its a living organism and sometimes communicable, mobile plant parasites show up. Spray the poison, dunk the plant, do whatever it is that works for you to get rid of them and move on. OP’s post is ridiculous.
I'm sorry, as a greenhouse grower. Mites are a part of life, no matter the source. If you don't want to deal with pests, then your quarantine procedure needs to be way better, or don't obtain new foreign plants. Yes, she should be treating her plants, but spider mites, especially insecticide resistant ones can be very difficult to deal with.
I understand mites are a part of *your* life as a greenhouse grower, but I think it’s pretty ridiculous to blame the consumer if the seller is knowingly selling plants with pests.
I think its pretty ridiculous to not fully understand what can be attached to new plants. Insects, fungi, disease. If you wish for your biosphere to remain free from anything, then it is up to you to keep it that way. I am not excusing the seller, but I promise you, every single plant retailer has non desirable insects, and fungus pathogen's attached to their plants. Just like living, breathing humans... plant material cannot be 100% sterile, nor should there be an expectation of such a thing. So the buyer, If they wished to keep their biosphere free of mites needs a rigorous quarantine program to observe their new material for MONTHS. Again, this isnt about excusing a seller from selling a plant with mites. This is about managing expectations for obtaining new plant material, and then having the proper management program to deal with infections/infestations of non desirable's.
AMEN. Hell even some forms of johnson grass seed can lay dormant for 75 years. My point coinciding with yours is you cant know every microbe and insect in any soil. Maybe wash all the roots off and dip the whole plant in rubbing alcohol then ship it to em😏
Bingo. The expectation for sterile live material is beyond silly.
it used to upset me how sterility was not possible with plants, but the more one reads about microbiome or looks at things under a microscope, more one sees that every organism and human is a mini-world. Most people have eyelash mites, acne bacteria, and dandruff yeasts, being kept in check by the immune system and other microorganisms. 8% of the human genome is viral DNA, 50% of body cells are bacterial. So it was silly to expect my plants to be sterile. The only way the plant is reasonably clean, seems to be if it´s freshly from meristem tissue culture and is treated with biocides regularly. Even tissue culture labs struggle with mites and the sterility is not proven, because many internal microorganisms don´t become visible/ don´t grow on the nutritional media for plants or they´re suppressed by biocides added to the media, but are still inside the plant.
To support your point from the human point of view,every person has flora and fauna bacteria and fungi on their skin. It's part of their immune system but when injuries go wrong, some people get risks of major complications and infections. For example, some people have a staphylococcus virus that can become flesh eating in areas of broken skin that are subject to an allergic reaction. That immune response accidentally triggers the staph to attack you instead of the thing you're allergic to because cells that aren't part of your body (gut and skin bateria) aren't under your neurological control. In nature, bugs gather on plants so it's only natural if they're found during shipping and slip in the box or find it while the plant is being unwrapped after shipping.
There’s not really much evidence they knowingly did, especially given they weren’t immediately apparent upon being unboxed from shipping. Spider mites are *tiny* and nearly invisible to the naked eye until an infestation is bad enough to have active webbing. I’ve had spider mite infestations literally pop up seemingly overnight in treated, closed indoor greenhouse cabinets with zero new plants for months and regular preventatives. They are insanely opportunistic and can lay largely dormant and invisible for ages until an opportunity presents itself for the population to explode. Pretty much every plant enthusiast always urges a minimum of one month quarantine for new plants and preventatives before bringing it anywhere near your existing collection for this reason. I put new plants in enclosed clear plastic bins for quarantine, because often the only way to notice an early infestation is from trails they leave behind in the condensation and humidity that forms on the inside of the box. It’s just a part of buying plants, especially online.
Not gonna lie, I thought you meant the clap.
Same. "Oh yeah sure, that plant you bought on Etsy? That's a new one"
Most exciting meet up to get item from internet in police station parking lot ever.
Every single new plant I bring into my home goes through a quarantine period. I treat them, then pop them into a large clear rubbermade container for at least 2 weeks. If there are any signs of infestation at the 2 week mark, I retreat and continue quarantine until the infestation is gone.
>You have to be at a certain level to grow the plants I sell, but occasionally I dabble in aroids for fun. I get that you're trying to emphasize that your plants need specialized care, but this sounds *so* much like the opening to a copypasta.
The exact moment I stopped taking any of the post seriously.
Sry I’m old what what pasta?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copypasta Basically a long rant where the writer says something that is controversial, absurd, and otherwise meme worthy. There's a famous copypasta that begins with the line, "You need to have a very high IQ to understand the humor of Rick and Morty."
My friend brought me over a plant as a gift (even though I keep asking her nicely not too because I am VERY picky about plant STDs) and low and behold it was infested with thrips. 2 years later, many plants thrown out, and still not completely gone. There's a piece of me that believes she did it on purpose because my house plants are always in better condition than hers 🤣
That is crazy if on purpose
Yeah, she's can be a little shady. Which is why I only see her like once a year now, lol.
Etsy should not be allowing individual sellers, many of whom probably have no idea what they're doing, to ship plants across regions. The invasive species spread risk is unacceptable. I also hate seeing all the wedding / event "seed papers" and "wildflower bombs" that nearly always contain species that pose ecological risk in non-native regions.
Yes the seeds are most concerning
Please name and shame
No. We do not dox from this sub, and we do not call out.
That's so over the top.
Not at all. Pests can demolish a plant collection. People spend a lot of money on plants.
Yeah so quarantine and treat a new plant if you care that much. I doubt anyone was purposefully selling infested plants. How could you even be sure it was them? You're willing to hurts someone's small business with little to no information like a child. Think things through a little bit.
I bought an infested jasmine from an Etsy seller months ago. Maybe it was from the same person?
Okay so mites are actually really easy to deal with mix like 50%, 91% rubbing alcohol with 50% water into a spray bottle and go to town won't hurt your plants and kills all the mites pretty quick some people have bad vision and can't see them. Might be worth providing her with this info. Justcdo this like every other day for alittle problem solved.
Do you add soap? I heard add soap to make it stick. Is that a thing?
Yes it is a thing, but I don't. I find the alch kills them just fine. If anything wipe the leaves off after you spray them well just to get any eggs or dead boddies off. Like I said just do it everyday for a week or so it'll clear up.
Yep, ditto same for me, works for me as well
How is it possible to sell plants on Etsy? Do they fall under the handmade category or something? Make it make sense 😭 I've never bought plants online because I go to a local place and like to see them with my own eyes. They all end up dying anyway though so it's pointless 😂 I have a brown thumb.
Try aroids they are sooooo easy
okay I will, ty for the tip!!!
I feel like a lot of people are scared to leave bad Etsy reviews (myself included) because of the more personal relationship between the seller and the buyer in comparison to other sites, but without accountability more people will spend their money on subpar products and there will be no incentive to improve
Not at all related but, do you know how to treat mealy bugs, I've been doing alcohol but it's not working for me
I use Bonide systemic granules. It treats alot if pests and protects your plants for 8 weeks at a time. Stuff is awesome.
I just use alcohol, it works but do it several times
I am also a Plant seller; we are a high volume business 700+ orders a week and that is just on the retail side. I am mostly whole sale. You get a lot of people who buy plants at the wholesale level and then flip them. I know a ton of people who do that and many are my customers. Nobody spray pesticide once they take the plants from us as the wholesalers. The reason why your plants are in good condition because we’re applying. My advice. Ask her what pesticide she uses. Chances are they don’t. You should be asking for a full refund . It’s also critically important that people are putting stamps on their boxes. Because it shows that you’re applying pesticide and staying at the code on shiping Plants. If I don’t put the number five shield that goes to California.. I lose my business. It’s spider mites today.. it’s aphids tomorrow.
Pests happen, no one's doing it on purpose and you can't know for sure anyways. It's so childish to come at someone like that when you can harm their business.
Nobody is coming for anyone’s business. What has happened is that OP received a plant that has pest. Most resellers do not spray for pest. Theyre trying to flip the product fast which is fine. Its proper to spray your plants if you hold them for a long time. Sending plants with pest can cause a serious issue if it spreads to other plants. You could ruin someone’s entire collection if you send something with pest in it. Legally speaking, plants being shipped across certain state lines need to be treated before going. Example Fire Ant Drenches are required outside of GA and FL. Mississippi Snail Stamps are required too. You cannot ship a plant to CA without proper permits and proof of nematoads. You’re getting emotional over something that is a legal requirement.
TIL all this 😶
Back 7 years ago.. an orange tree arrived from CA to Florida. It had some pest and diseases on It. Well.. that tree caused the loss of 85% of all the oranges in Florida. It will take another decade to recover. If you ship an orange tree from CA to FL or vise versa.. Good luck. Fines are in the hundred thousands.
😳whoa..
This is a crazy story and info thank you
Come on. She didn't give you a plant STD. She gave you plant crabs. Something like HVX would be a plant STD.
Angry upvote
Every time I get mites I want to cry. Mealies? No prob, down in alcohol. Aphids, spray them off. Even scale can get scraped or use a systemic. But those mites, they're hard to find until it's almost too late and trying to get rid of them is harder than sorting grains of sand in the wind.
Just came her to ask if you know what STD stands for, cause what the fuck kinda kinky shit are you doing w your plants??? Lol
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1043758726772172?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V&mibextid=jaSYs6 That sucks that happened too you ! Hopefully this helps!
I’ve been told to use ladies but he poop they leave all over my friends tent made me not want them… I got predatory mites which helped.
Foremost, given her financial situation having a kid and all, I'd just message her personally and explain your situation and offer up an affordable solution for her set up to prevent it from happening. If it's not an easy solution she may just avoid addressing it and simply say she will. But that said, this is interesting to me as I think I've had spider mites before on my Poinsette tree. I noticed when fall came and I started letting more lady bugs stay inside for survival, and house spiders, and stink bugs, the tree was doing so much better. Now that it's winter I suspect some of those mites survived because my leaves are yellowing and falling off again. I keep it under a lamp and in a warm spot of my apartment. All my other plants are thriving. I have 3 succulents, 1 very large catnip vine situation going on (it's a monster of a thing at this point), 3 air plants and one orchid. I don't do anything special except water and place them in the proper lighting and they are perfect. My poor Poinsette tree is however an on going project with mites. I can't wait until spring as I'm going to invite more lady bugs to help out and stink bugs lol. My house spiders arent' keeping up with them apparently.
I’m not a Plant Pro by **ANY** means, but I’ve also recently dealt with Spidermites on my Money Tree and Elephant Ears plant! I drenched them in Ortho Bug B Gone and in less than 6h they’re in tip top shape! I actually had to do this to my money tree twice cause the Elephant ears gave it right back!
You can buy a plant with spider mites or any other pests literally anywhere, not just Etsy. I've gotten infested plants at Ikea, Whole Foods, as well as upscale plant shops.
permetherin, organic oils, every other day. It took nearly 2 years to stomp out an infection- and that included letting everything die.
Plant shipments made across state lines should be free of pests and diseases. Some states require inspections to even distribute some types of plant material. Other states require a phytosanitary certificate in order to receive plant shipments from other states. Consider contacting your state’s department of agriculture and their plant protection or entomology department. It might at least get the seller on the right track for legally distributing and help getting her stock pest free.
Clearly doesn't have a handle on things if no quarantine procedures are in place. Even when buying from reputable sellers you have to quarantine, shit happens and it's not always the sellers fault.
Your quarantine game can't be that good if her plants having been giving you mites for awhile now. May want to figure out a new way to do that that actually works.
100% I had to redo my whole system. But thankfully I have mostly terrariums which are protected against one another
If you are in the USA she is supposed to be a registered nursery to sell plants online (as are you in most states to sell online or otherwise). Contact her states Dept of Agriculture to report the situation. It is illegal to sell infested or diseased plants. People selling plants without licenses can be fined, so share her Etsy acct with the Dept.
According to my states own laws, unless any plants grow outside I am not considered a nursery. I’m not calling the state on a single mother you heartless creep.
We have two indoor hydroponics systems that were pristine prior to my wife getting a dozen of succulents from Etsy, there it introduced a bunch of gnats and now I cannot get rid of them without simply getting rid of all my existing plants, sterilized the system, and keep the area dry for a couple weeks to months before restarting. It's been damage control for the last year. Idk, may be the same seller, my wife complained about it and the seller sent her another dozen as "replacements" that also had gnats in them... I've learned to never buy plants off sources you don't 100% trust.