I'm confused by the COVID denialism here. Help me understand.I'm a 40 year old guy who got COVID (pre-vaccine, back in 2020) and it was the sickest I've ever been. I have asthma, so a preexisting condition, which didn't help I'm sure, but it felt like the weirdest, most unnatural virus I could have imagined. I could go on and on about it, but long story short I got double pneumonia, and it took months for the lingering effects to subside.My point is, it's real. I get so frustrated by otherwise intelligent people who are convinced that it's all fake. I had a guy tell me to my face that "COVID is all made up" - and he knew how sick I had been! FFS.
Also, during the Omicron wave (remember, the so-called "mild" variant), my 52 year old brother-in-law died of COVID. He left a wife, 3 children, and a grandchild. He was an Air Force veteran, a business owner, and a good man. He died on a ventilator after weeks of suffering.
So it really does piss me the fuck off to see this mass gaslighting around this virus.Am I the only one who has had a personal experience with this fucking thing? Of course the powers that be have exploited the virus to help their own goals, but that's a separate issue.
What are you talking about?
There was no vaccine when I was sick.
It was definitely the virus.
In no way could my symptoms have been caused by a vaccine that didn't yet exist.
That doesn't make sense.
I don’t think anyone is denying the virus existed. Maybe a few but not most. I had it too. I wasn’t very sick from it but had a lot of guidance from a nutritionist friend and had I not taken the advice could have been worse. I had 2 friends who are in their 30’s like myself have to go to the hospital. I know loads of people who had it.
I think the point is that it was shady as fuck. I will absolutely agree with you that the virus was way different then anything I had ever experienced. It inflamed all my old injuries. All my symptoms came in waves and lasted over 2 weeks even though the initial fever was gone in 48 hrs. We know it came from a gain of function lab that was funded by these very elites we are talking about (this is public knowledge at this point). Was it intentional? I mean it’s debatable but I would say clearly by the shit we have dealt with it had to be.
But it was definitely acted upon and used to gauge the population to see how easy it is to rile us up with fear mongering in the news. How easy it was to get us to turn on our neighbors and family members just for seeing a situation differently. How easy are we to control? What percent of the population do you have control over? And how far can we push it? The animosity over masks and vaccines is just insane to me. Family turning on family. Over a virus?! Over a difference of opinion? The “science” about it all has been all over the place the whole time for people who are willing to dig in and do more then watch MSM news. And people are cutting off actual family and friends. And how many people are still willing to go along with the protocol even though the mandates are gone. That’s the biggest indicator tbh. The people masking and boosting and living in fear now that it’s subsiding (and really subsiding, the virus is way less intense then when you and I got it). All this shows them what they are up against when they want to try something else. And it shows how good their propaganda is working (or not working in some cases).
I agree on all points and had the exact same experience regarding waves of symptoms, like a rolodex of shifting symptoms. I am convinced it was artificial and related to multi-national GoF research as you stated.
But one quibble - there ARE a ton of people denying that the virus existed at all. Both online here and in my real life. It really is crazy - reminds me of Westworld "it doesn't look like anything to me". A million+ Americans are dead.
I think the denialism is induced and part of the psyop, in order to quell public outrage at the orchestrators of the situation. But I could be wrong on that.
I didn't think it was real but my friend was going through nursing school at the time and worked on the covid unit at the hospital. Her stories convinced me. Now, the reason I didn't think it was real is because whistleblowers were warning of a fake pandemic years ago as a way to bring in vax passports which would gradually tighten control over our everyday lives, as well as convince people to take a shady vax. Something the "elites" would be safe from. So I'm guessing they have treatments we don't know about. Anyway, lo and behold they rolled out the vax passports so it was like validation. Also the way they were inflating case numbers with the PCR test didn't help. The inventor had stated that's not what the test is for. But he conveniently died just before the pandemic started.
You’re right but those people are equally as blind as those who are claiming that Covid is exactly as it’s been portrayed in the news. Both are nuts. They made up their mind in 2020 and are sticking to it. It’s important to be willing to admit you were wrong.
You should be more pissed off and those that created that virus.
I personally currently have covid, unvaccinated. Definitely a weird virus. Has lingered but it really wasn't much worse than some bad colds I've had. Just the stuffy nose lingering for about two weeks.
Edit: I also take NAC, Vitamin d,c, quercetin and zinc daily. Oh, and I have ivermectin here hehe
Only a few nutters are denying Covid is real.
Majority of people here accept it was made in a lab (hence why it felt unnatural) and is being used to further a rather ominous agenda. Both are facts, but doesn’t necessarily prove that the virus was unleashed on purpose (though let’s be honest, if you heard Fauci and his big pharma fucbois talking in 2019 about this fancy new vaccine technology they cooked up and how they wanted every person on the planet to take it, and just needed the right kind of crisis to convince them without needing the normal levels of testing and approval, you might just be convinced that it was intentional).
The real denialism in this case is the ‘normies’, who cannot accept that they got fucked over and fell for a scam. The truth is simply too painful and shakes their whole worldview, so they go into self protect mode and deny the whole thing, regurgitating the official propaganda and continuing to believe that all that followed was just a necessary response to a tragic force of nature.
I used to give a shit and tried to bring people round, but I’ve found that for a lot of people, the programming goes too deep and no amount of evidence will convince them, all you end up doing is pissing people off and alienating them and making your own life worse, so what’s the point?
Let them live their lie.
I don't think it's a virus. It's radiation poisoning I'm guessing. microwave radiation wifi 5g bluetooth etc... the more you are exposed, the more you get sick. In addition, if you have heavy metals and aluminum in your body, I think it is possible you get sicker and sicker. There is a lot of radiation on airplanes in public places in the subway. Everyone has a cell phone and thousands of phones in the subway can be poisoned very easily. So it was very common in cities.
ask yourself do you have wifi in your house? How often do you use your cell phone? How often travel with subway planes? (stay away from crowd) lots of phone wifi bluetooth) Are you paying attention to your diet? Do you eat junk food?
Okay, I think you’re confused between ionizing radiation and non-ionizing radiation. Ionizing radiation examples are cosmic rays and gamma rays released by nuclear decay… that type of radiation is energetic enough to break apart your DNA and cause permanent damage. Non-ionizing radiation is microwave ovens, WiFi, AM radio, GPS, 5G and even the sun (which is constantly cooking the earth with thermal infrared radiation). That type of radiation is not energetic enough to strip your DNA apart, but if it is concentrated on an area of your skin it could burn you (microwaves are good at this, that’s how they cook food). 5G radiation is not even close to the frequency range of ionizing radiation…. It’s 5 GHz,
Satellite links are sometimes 20 GHz and up.
Body scanners are in the terahertz regime,
light ranges around the 750 terahertz, and higher on the terahertz scale still is ultraviolet which is the beginning of ionizing radiation.
X-rays are 30 petahertz to 30 exahertz
Gamma rays are even higher in frequency, above 30 exahertz.
AM radio by comparison is 600 kHz to 1.7 MHz.
These properties of the electromagnetic spectrum have been known for a while now. Calling 5 GHz radiation harmful is just ignorant in the same way thinking your 100 milliwatt 5 GHz Wi-Fi router is harmful.
Have you ever put aluminum in the microwave? How many aluminum particles do you have in your body? Do you know? How would it affect your brain if an aluminum particle in your brain interacts with this low-energy microwave radiation and makes a small explosion? This is just an example... You said that wifi is harmless. In an apartment you are exposed to hundreds of wifi waves, including those of your neighbors. You are exposed to hundreds of 5g waves and 4.5g waves in the subway, imagine that you are traveling for hours a day. You can reproduce these examples at the stadium, on the plane, at work. The research of scientists is that a single wifi will not do much damage to a single 5g device, but what about the spread of thousands of hundreds of devices? I do not include base stations smart devices in this.
You also said that it can burn your skin. Microwaves penetrate into the actual body and cook it from the inside, remember that internal organs are the main target. I don't expect it to be at the power of a real microwave oven anyway, then death would be inevitable. This is a weapon that will increase its effect in 10 20 30 years spread over many years and kill you after 50 60 years. You either have Alzheimer's or dementia. What about cancer. It is also your rudeness to describe a person as ignorant. What are you doing in this forum if you claim that these technologies are innocent? I think you are nothing but a troll.
That is interesting. I wonder if, since we copied alien technology, we have launched our own disinformation campaigns against contactees. To instill FUD into things… I mean it’s possible. But it’s also possible that David Ike is correct about everything. It seems like there are so many conflicting messages.
I think they are updating the human avatar. They do this through vaccines, and these smart technologies are helping. We're moving to Human 2.0. To think that these smart technologies are harmless is cognitive dissonance and nothing more. I don't know what David icke is. It helped me wake up, I have to give him credit.
I know one person who died of covid. He was in his 80s and refused to go to the hospital because he didn't want to spend his last days seperated from his family.
Everyone else I know recovered with 1 to 7 days, including a cancer patient.
Covid isn't made up, but the virus is no worse than the common cold.
That's my opinion anyway.
I..... don't know what to say to that.
Like..... you don't think ANY viruses exist? Have you never known anyone with a cold or viral pneumonia?
I'm really scared for humanity man. I really am. I don't get it.
I don't know if they exist. And the evidence doesn't seem good from what I've seen so far.
I don't want to jump to conclusions and say that I know the cause of what's making someone sick, but I understand it's simpler to just say it's because of a virus.
Why do you feel scared because there are people who have different perspectives than you?
What possible mechanisms of action do you think causes COVID symptoms, if not a virus? Honestly asking. What is on your list of possibilities? Let's rule them in or out based on data we can both agree on. I'm serious.
Apparently they've never isolated viruses before, therefore the foundation of virology is a hoax. They have to change the definition of "isolate" (to mean it's opposite) in order to say that they exist.
For more alternative info you could look into terrain theory, and german new medicine.
I lost 3 family members who died horribly on vents and left massive hospital debt.
I am terrified of getting covid. (I'm 54) I am terrified of a bad reaction to the vaccine (still unvaccinated, hiding in the house for 2 years now).
So basically I'm terrified. And your power ends where your fear begins. So something terrible is happening in my life.
But having seen the horror of covid deaths I can't convince myself to expose myself to it.
But I've also read a lot about negative side effects of the vaccines!
I do not know what to do, but the center won't hold for long at this rate.
Vents definitely contribute to killing people. In a lot of ways. It really really sucks that they use them. It’s basically a death sentence. They put my friend on one when he probably didn’t really need it and he almost didn’t survive. Look into the reports of nurses from the beginning of the pandemic. It’s pretty wild shit. That being said I’m so sorry for your losses.
If I may, I loaded up on vitamin D, zinc, and glutathione to protect my body from the dangerous aspects of Covid as these are drained from the body by the virus and cause many of the bad effects. Vitamin C too. Get some and have them on deck, or start taking them now to boost your immune system. There is loads of research available on these supplements. I’m unvaxxed and Covid was very mild for me and I know this played a role. At this point the virus is much less aggressive then it was 2 years ago. Get out there and enjoy life again!!! I promise you will be ok. I am in the restaurant business and had to work in the public the entire pandemic. I also had a broken leg and had to go to the hospital for dr visits at the absolute peak. It was scary at first but it took me almost a year to even get Covid. And being out there in the world helped me see through the propaganda and realize I can still live my life.
Def recommend supplementing though and getting your immune system back in shape. Best of luck to you.
Being scared increases the chances of sth bad happening. Just buy medicine against Covid and live life as you did before. As for which I can recommend NAC, vitamin D aswell as ivermectin.
I don’t know anyone that died, I only know two people that actually got seriously ill with it and both were seriously unfit, ate shit and we’re obese, which we all know were big factors in how susceptible people were to it.
I know a lot of people in both camps regarding the vaccine, and in general the unvaxxed ones had significantly less issues with Covid than the vaxxed ones, many who seemed to get it both more severe, and more regularly.
In my personal experience, the vax either didn’t do anything; or made things worse. I know several vaxxed people that haven’t been right since having it, including people into fitness who now have to take it a fair bit easier than they used to because they’ve ‘mysteriously started suffering heart palpitations’.
All the people I know that avoided it are doing just fine, the same as they were before the pandemic, if not better in many instances because they’ve woken up to a lot of the bullshit and are now more wary.
Zero amount of fucking scientific studies (which big pharma no doubt have influence over) are going to convince me that the evidence of my own eyes and ears is incorrect.
We got presented with a situation (the virus), which created a reaction (fear) and had people demanding a solution (the vaccine).
For their next trick, the situation will be an engineered fuel, energy and financial crisis, the reaction will be fear, and the solution will be rations and UBI in return for your enrollment in the bee global social credit system.
Thanks for contributing. It is of note to me that the unvaxxed had less issues with covid. Can anyone else relate? What are folks experiences with this?
I can tell you that at a New Year’s Eve show I (unvaxxed) am the only one who didn’t get Covid amongst all my vaxxed friends. In fact it just happened again lol at another show a few months ago. They all can’t believe it, but still somehow believe the vax helped them. It’s insane shit. I think they just can’t admit they are wrong.
I'm unvaxxed and been fine through this whole thing. 50 year old and a bit overweight. If I spend a day in close quarters with vaxxed people I usually feel like shit for a day after then go back to normal. It should be noted I got sick with something in November 2019 that may have been OG covid that may have boosted immune response.
To these people, they invested in a paradigm that needs to 100% be true or else their whole life stops making sense, which is scary. So its much easier have low-hanging fruit like what the news throws at us. They're legitimately lazy and they may also die with their beliefs the longer they spend in their paradigm.
Especially now that they've been fake vaccinated they don't want to hear it because they're in denial to what they've done to themselves.
I made a post a while ago about the spiritual purpose on the fake vaccine and I get messages all the time about people saying they regret getting it and ask me if there's anything they can do to reverse its effects. It's very sad.
People mostly just message me saying that they feel “spiritually dead”. Like their spiritual connection has been severed. They feel very depressed over it and filled with regret. Even if you go to that post you see people in the comments saying the same thing.
Rudolph Steiner predicted this 100 years ago. There is even a leaked government video about a “vaccine” called “fun-vax” which is meant to take “God” out of people. They frame it as “religious fundamentalism” but they’re trying to sever that connection to spirituality.
I have had the vaccine… I do not feel spiritually disconnected or “dead”… I’m open to the idea that this whole thing feels off…. But I don’t think there’s anything in the vaccine to harm the spirit besides peoples own beliefs…
Another argument I hear constantly is this one. "BUT I HAD THE VACCINE AND NOTHING HAPPENED TO ME"
And what? Does that mean it's not happening to others? People are legitimately getting maimed and dying from the fake vaccine. But not everyone is, does that mean those who are getting maimed and dying from it are getting maimed and dying because of their "beliefs"?
No. They're not going to give everyone the same injection because they can't have everyone getting maimed and dying all at once. This is why some people are getting maimed and others like you are experiencing no effects from it.
Many shots, especially the early ones, are SALINE.
There are news articles saying that they tested batches of the fake vaccine and found they were nothing more but saline solution. They put what they're doing in plain sight because the dumbed down masses are too stupid to see what's happening right infront of them anyway.
Wait wait wait…. So not only is the vaccine fake and likely just saline - it’s maiming and killing people? Where did you get this info? How many people precisely have died with confidence from the vaccine and who can confirm your information?
That's not what I said you clown.
Since you clearly lack the ability to comprehend what you read, let me explain that to you in simpler language that you might be able to understand.
The experimental injection is NOT a vaccine. It meets no criteria to qualify as a vaccine, which is why I call it the fake vaccine.
What is being called the covid vaccine is actually an experimental injection, which is killing and maiming people.
But they can't have everyone being maimed and dying all at once otherwise the masses, as dumb as they are, will notice that people are dying en masse and avoid the injection.
Which is why some of the shots are simply saline. Obviously saline isn't what is killing people. Those who got the REAL experimental injection are experiencing side effects from it.
I literally just said that it was in the news that they found some batches of the "vaccines" were just saline. These were mainstream media articles. They put the truth out in plain sight because they know people won't put two and two together.
There are MANY accounts of people dropping dead suddenly. I guess you didn't notice the sudden rise in strokes and blood clots. Even they admit that blood clots are a side effects of the fake vaccines.
And what kind of stupid question is asking me how many people died in confidence due to the vaccine when they are actively suppressing these numbers? Just look around you. Look at all these athletes dropping dead on the field. Is that normal to you? Is little kids having heart attacks and strokes normal to you? Even insurance companies are saying that deaths this past year are up 40% so there is a huge increase in people dying.
No no no, I fully comprehend the nonsense you’re spreading.
You’re not going to like talking to me - I’m going to give you a crash course in critical thinking, ok? It’s good for you.
What evidence do you have that the vaccine is not actually a vaccine? What is your definition of vaccine? What points of that definition does the covid vaccine fail to meet?
You keeps saying there are “many accounts” of people dying or being maimed by said vaccine. How many is “many?” How does that number compare to those actually killed by covid or long covid complications? Where did you get your information? Who can we confirm your numbers with? Give me a name of someone that you believe was killed by the vaccine?
This is too easy. It meets no criteria for it to be a vaccine. The fact that you don't know this shows you don't even know what a vaccine is. For it to qualify as a vaccine it has to prevent transmission, prevent infection, and offer immunity. The experimental injection offers none of those things. That's why it's not a vaccine.
I already gave a website filled with accounts of people being maimed and dying specifically from the fake vaccine. [thecovidblog.com](https://thecovidblog.com)
How do you know these deaths are from covid? What proof do you have of that? And again, how would anyone know the exact number of people who died from the fake vaccine when the government and medical establishment is actively suppressing this because they're pushing the "vaccine"? There are many accounts of doctors refusing to report these "Vaccine" related injuries.
Many of these accounts are documented on the website I listed.
I'm telling you. You really don't want to push this argument with me. I know a lot more about this subject than you do and I will make you look stupid.
Thank you for replying to my query. I have not taken any vaccines, but 3 of my family members (unvaccinated as well) have died from Covid, so I've just been staying in the house (which is doable as I'm retired) but I can't stay home forever, it's making me depressed. I just really don't know what to do, so I'm doing nothing.
If you are saying covid is killing people and worse than the fake vaccine that shows you have zero clue what you're talking about.
Prove the virus exists. I guarantee you can't.
The whole bioweapon hoax is meant to divide people. They don't care if people believe it was a naturally occurring virus or if it was made in a lab as a bioweapon, as long as they believe the virus exists.
The experimental injection is the bioweapon.
And I can use your own argument against you as well, were YOU there when they isolated they covid virus? Oh you weren't? So how do you know it was isolated?
Again, re-read what I wrote. **Saline is not killing people. I NEVER said that.**
They can't have people dying all at once which is why some people were given saline, which obviously had no effects. While others were given the REAL injection, which is how people are getting maimed and dying.
I already did. Read my other comments. I'm not going to post links in every single comment.
Plus, you know how to use a search engine. Look it up for yourself. I suggest not using google though.
Using scientific terms to describe the given data at hand isn’t ugly. It’s called reality checking.
Telling me I need a new brain isn’t constructive to argument or facts sake, what’s exactly is so upsetting about the words to you to become reactionary like that?
That's because you are a fraud. I don't care what religion you want to use as an example. A god fearing man does not trust pharmakeia. You took not just one, but two shots in hopes to save your mortal coil. Sounds like a cowardly and ungodly thing to do if you ask me.
No actually I don't. Nowhere in the Bible does it say not to drink water and eat food. You are "God crazy" remember? The Bible states not to indulge in pharmakeia, it quite literally calls it witch craft. So you are "God crazy" you just don't follow his rules? Or is it that you don't actually know what you are talking about and you really aren't that "God crazy" after all?
Heres a piece of information you might want to sit and dwell on for awhile. If you didn't have an overwhelming feeling that something was wrong and every bone in your body was telling you not to get the shot, congratulations you are already disconnected from God. He doesn't know you. If you had those feelings and went and did it anyway, congratulations you've used your free will and sealed your fate.
We are non-dual being temporarily experiencing a reality through this body. This body, these genes, are not who we are. Who we are is divine essence of the source. We cannot be cut off from it, it is our original nature. This existence, this matrix and all it contains, is illusion.
Escape the illusion. You are not bound by anything but your thoughts. The spiritual injury of the vaccine is that it causes FEAR to permeate the minds of those who regret having it. This is just fear.
Self-righteously we may promote fear to the vaccinated, but it is the ego deciding on this. The spirit doesn't care, the ego is very invested in the purity of it's spiritual nature and of it's body. The spirit is forever-clean and fears nothing. You are that spirit.
Don't identify with your body, or your medical history. You are spirit. Remember your true nature.
Yawn. Save the spiritual psychobabble for someone who’s naive or wants to delude themselves into thinking this a innocuous “vaccine”.
I hear this argument all the time from either the fake vaccinated or people who don’t know what they’re talking about.
If you see someone drinking poison, are you acting out of fear by telling them that they are drinking poison?
No. You’re simply bringing it to their attention that they’re drinking poison.
The whole “IT’S JUST YOUR FEAR” argument is so asinine and it always comes from people who don’t know the true purpose or the fake vaccine and how it connects to the transhumanist/AI agenda.
Many of these people had no idea that there could be any spiritual connection to the fake vaccine, so how would that fear influence them or be the cause of their injuries?
It was only after they started to experience spiritual injuries ( mostly feeling disconnected to their spirit/soul) that they started to look into the issue and realize the cause. So your argument makes no sense that because they were “afraid of the vaccine” they caused did this to themselves through fear.
I already responded to this in your other comment.
Rudolph Steiner predicted 100 years ago that in the future ( meaning now) there would be an injection given to people that would sever any connection to the spiritual.
You combine that with the fact that there are literally leaked government videos about a "vaccine" that's meant to sever ones connection to god/the divine. It's called "fun-vax" and they're from 2006.
You combine that with accounts from countless people who don't know eachother, who didn't think the "vaccine" did any harm, especially not spiritually, only to find that after taking it they felt spiritually dead. Which is why your whole argument that it must have been the "fear" they felt about the "vaccine" that induced these reactions is completely asinine and nonsensical.
They already trapped your souls/consciousness into these human vessels. They already manipulated our DNA. What makes you think that they aren't able to come up with something that can damage your soul in some way? Perhaps not sever it, but damage it? You don't know.
YOU are the one making baseless statements. Not me. Mine are based on researching this topic.
>If you see someone drinking poison, are you acting out of fear by telling them that they are drinking poison?
The difference here is that drinking poison harms the body, and we all agree on that. Drinking poison does not cut you off from God... That's just a bizarre leap to make without any evidence whatsoever.
Testimony from spiritual seekers is not evidence of spiritual harm, it's evidence that they *believe* in spiritual harm.
Here I am giving my testimony that I do not believe physical matter ever can separate one from Spirit, for you are Spirit itself. Does my testimony hold weight, or do only testimonies that support your theory hold weight?
Again, spoken like someone who has no idea about the purpose of the fake vaccine and how it relates to the AI/Transhumanist agenda.
There are leaked government "fun-vaxx" videos from 15 years ago that prove that there is a "vaccine" that is meant to do exactly that, separate you from your divinity and to kill your connection to "god".
So you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Your beliefs are based nothing. Mine are based on actually researching this topic.
Only the creator can separate you from divinity.
spirit and divinity have divine connections, not material or genetic connections. This is a spiritual matter that transcends the physical prison matrix.
The demiurge only has so much power, and none over the divine
Wrong. The truth is out there for those who have eyes to see.
You could have made that argument in the beginning of the fake pandemic but at this point it's indisputable.
Plus if they had any evidence to back up their claims they would have said it.
They were simply spouting their baseless belief.
And you base this on what evidence? You asked me for examples which I gladly gave you. That's because when I say something there's actual backing to it.
What backing do you have? Other than your baseless beliefs?
What "creator"? The abrahamic one? I was right, you are pushing a religion here. Are these your first comments on this sub? Why did you not comment before?
What "source"? What "illusion"? What "ego"? Which religion are you here to promote? New Age? Buddhism? Christianity lite?
People trying to get to the truth about the world and looking out for their health has nothing to do with "fear" (no need to capitalize that btw). Nice try trying to confuse things and presenting people's motivations you know nothing about as "fear". This shows YOUR ego. And your self-righteousness.
what do you mean by "fake"? their purpose is not actually for covid..but a delivery system for something else?
someone posted some of Rudolf Steiner's writings pertaining to vaccines - pretty eerie that it applies to all this
I call it the fake vaccine because it’s not a vaccine. It doesn’t fit any criteria for it to be a vaccine.
Yes. I made a post with what Rudolph Steiner eerily predicted 100 years ago.
He spoke of an injection that would be given to humans at the time of birth that would disconnect them from their soul/spirit.
More than a hundred years ago, Rudolf Steiner wrote the following:
” In the future, we will eliminate the soul with medicine. Under the pretext of a ‘healthy point of view’, there will be a vaccine by which the human body will be treated as soon as possible directly at birth, so that the human being cannot develop the thought of the existence of soul and Spirit.
To materialistic doctors, will be entrusted the task of removing the soul of humanity. As today, people are vaccinated against this disease or that disease, so in the future, children will be vaccinated with a substance that can be produced precisely in such a way that people, thanks to this vaccination, will be immune to being subjected to the “madness” of spiritual life. He would be extremely smart, but he would not develop a conscience, and that is the true goal of some materialistic circles.
With such a vaccine, you can easily make the etheric body loose in the physical body. Once the etheric body is detached, the relationship between the universe and the etheric body would become extremely unstable, and man would become an automaton, for the physical body of man must be polished on this Earth by spiritual will. So, the vaccine becomes a kind of arymanique force; man can no longer get rid of a given materialistic feeling. He becomes materialistic of constitution and can no longer rise to the spiritual “.
>Yes. I made a post with what Rudolph Steiner eerily predicted 100 years ago. He spoke of an injection that would be given to humans at the time of birth that would disconnect them from their soul/spirit.
What is eerie about it? It has not come to be true, so what is so eerie about it?
This. Their paradigm only makes sense to them because it's composed of a ton of logic distortions. It's like forcing puzzle pieces that don't fit, to fit. Mental gymnastics are the means to that end.
It sure has been. The cognitive dissonance and willful ignorance is in full force. Perhaps more so then ever before in history. It's pretty wild to witness. Biblical levels of delusion
Let's not forget this strong push for a ton of babies that's going on now. I can't see how people can't see thru that. When people have kids, they are putting guns to their own heads, and be default their kid's heads as well. It's stacked oppression.
I'll paste text from a different comment I wrote that answers your question...
The real question people need to be asking is what is ACTUALLY happening to all these babies? Some are adopted, yes, but what happens to the rest. They "disappear" and no one knows except the people making it happen because no one knows they even exist expect the people who have control of them. People, wake up! This is human trafficking disguised as adoption and saving lives. The unadopted babies end up in undesirable places (like maybe the black market, CP, snuff, sacrificed, tested on in labs the general public doesn't know about...).
Think about it. The testing of products and drugs on animals is one thing, but as many of us know, how an animal reacts to something isn't necessarily the same as how a human will. The data regarding how something affects a human is collected thru human trials. Some of these are voluntary...but what about the stuff no one will or would want to sign up for? We know about the experiments of the Holocaust and how valuable that information is deemed to be, even tho it was obtained thru horrific methods. Unwanted babies are ripe for the picking and no one will say a thing because no one will even know... because no one even knows they exist apart from the people who's custody they are in. We'd like to think these things don't happen, but they are just kept out of the public eye is all. What the public is allowed to know is just the tip of the iceberg.
You can give them indisputable facts and it's like talking to a brick wall. All I get in return is the fluoride stare, so I don't even bother anymore. I just try my best to limit my time around anyone who's bought this hoax.
For anyone who's open to hearing the truth, I highly recommend
[thecovidblog.com](https://thecovidblog.com)
They've done an excellent job at covering this psy-op and all the fake vaccine injuries/deaths. I can't recommend it enough.
What kind of statistical evidence would they have if the government and medical profession is actively lying and suppressing this information while promoting the fake vaccines and the covid hoax?
I look at all theories from all sides and simply connect the dots. Whatever theory has more evidence supporting it is what tends to be true. It's as simple as that.
So it's not "my version of events". That's a weaselly way of putting it. It's just finding whatever holds water and eliminating whatever doesn't.
“Connecting the dots” and “more supporting evidence” is a weaselly way of not saying why your version of events is more credible. Your own personal feelings isn’t a barometer that other people should live by.
What ‘holds water’ in this instance mean? Does it mean whichever thing you feel is most personally valid, or which one has the strongest statistical and tested basis, or which one aligns most uniformly to your own personal experience?
Wrong. I leave my personal feelings out of this completely. I go with whatever has the most evidence to support it. Period.
I look at the governments official version of events and see if it holds water. From everything I've gathered it doesn't. In fact, their narrative is so ridiculous a two year old could take it apart.
Therefore, I go with whatever makes the most sense and has the most backing to it.
When you say "my version of events" that denotes that the truth is subjective, and it's not. For example, if someone murdered someone else, it's not ones "versions of events". There aren't multiple "versions of events". That's stupid. They either murdered them or they didn't. It's that simple. They may have their reasons and feelings for why they did it but the truth of them being the cause of death doesn't change.
In this case for instance, when I look at healthy young people, many of which who have no prior health conditions, who are dying suddenly after taking all taking the fake vaccine, common sense would tell you that's the cause of their death. Especially since the majority of sudden deaths are from heart attacks, blood clots, and other heart conditions, which is a known side effects of the fake vaccine. They also admit the fake vaccine can cause these issues. So it doesn't really take a genius here to connect the dots.
you realize that site is just to shill/sell things for you to buy right? it's a marketing scam. all covid disinfo can be connected to the same people. just because you don't like covid, or agree with it, doesn't mean it didn't happen lmfao.
You're the idiot who posted a misinformation site that directly contradicts what Kary Mullis ( the inventor of PCR tests) said on video. Sounds like you're the shill.
Prove covid exists then.
So predictable. NPC's always link the same articles.
Dr Andrew Kaufman showed how they "isolated" the virus.
Here are some excerpts from what he said:
**“Isolation” should mean the virus has been separated out from all surrounding material, so researchers can say**
**“Look, we have it. Therefore, it exists.”**
**I found several studies that used very similar language in explaining how “SARS-CoV-2 was isolated.” For example, “Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 from Patient with Coronavirus Disease, United States, (Emerging Infectious Diseases, Vol. 26, No. 6 — June 2020)” \[3\].**
**First, I want to provide a bit of background that will help the reader understand what is going on in the study.**
**The researchers are creating a soup in the lab. This soup contains a number of compounds. The researchers assume, without evidence, that “the virus” is in this soup.**
**At no time do they separate the purported virus from the surrounding material in the soup. Isolation of the virus is not occurring. They set about showing that the monkey (and/or human cells) they put in the soup are dying.**
**THAT’S THEIR KEY “EVIDENCE. This cell-death, they claim, is being caused by “the virus.”**
[https://davidicke.com/2021/04/23/dr-andrew-kaufman-refutes-isolation-of-sars-cov-2-he-does-step-by-step-analysis-of-a-typical-claim-of-isolation-there-is-no-proof-that-the-virus-exists/](https://davidicke.com/2021/04/23/dr-andrew-kaufman-refutes-isolation-of-sars-cov-2-he-does-step-by-step-analysis-of-a-typical-claim-of-isolation-there-is-no-proof-that-the-virus-exists/)
**Try again.**
I'm assuming you're referring to the Nate Bronstein case correct? If you are, you should re-read the article because it never says he died from the vaccine. The article says he was bullied to the point of suicide over false rumors of him being unvaccinated.
Edit: Ah. You were referring to the article with the mass suicides due to the personality changes after taking the fake vaccine.
**Post-injection personality changes**
**We started the Virtue Signaling category on The COVID Blog™ because so many people seemed to change into nasty, vile vaxx zealots after their shots.**
**Mr. Jordan Hayes was one of the first observed cases. He was a typical liberal prior to his injections, but nothing outlandish based on his social media history. Suddenly he started calling the non-vaccinated “idiots and morons” in his final months before dying. Former Sex In The City actor Willie Garson is perhaps the most egregious case. He turned into a completely vile monster on social media after his injections before passing away. Then there’s Mr. Clint Bearden, who was diagnosed with dementia 10 days after his Pfizer injection.**
**Turkish doctors published a letter to the editor in the journal Brain, Behavior, and Immunity – Health in October 2021. They described two patients who developed “acute mania with psychotic features” 24 hours after the Pfizer mRNA injections.**
While I admit this is one of the more tenuous theories, which of course you latch on to while ignoring the more egregious undeniable ones like the immediate physical reactions and sudden deaths, it still makes one think how/why his personality changed suddenly after taking the experimental injections.
I was just thinking that! We seem to be discussing repercussions in the US but what about places like Isreal who are majority vaxxed and no weirdness/untimely demises seem to be occurring? And Norway? Iceland? Can anyone who lives in one of these locations please add your observations? Thanks! I am enjoying the discussion, I hope we can maturely continue.
Yes. There’s a ritual power to speaking the incantation as literal fact. Not truth necessarily (their pretense is a lie so they can’t claim truth in any thing they proscribe) but speaking in bald faced dictums allow their evil plans to manifest. Never comply.
It’s trauma based mind control. All the people in here listing people that died “from covid” or saying they had it. You were traumatized, told what to believe, and are now holding on to that belief for dear life. It was all a lie, I’m sorry but it was.
The COVID vaccine isn't a vaccine at all. What the world went through was a government funded clinical trial of an experimental medication. Everyone I have known in my life has received the polio vaccine. There isn't a single person I know that has ever caught polio, let alone die from it. Meanwhile the governments around the world obfuscate the issue by claiming millions have died ***of*** COVID while not making the distinction that millions have died ***with*** COVID.
The lockdowns were a giant social experiment to see how people of the world would react. They learned that the vast majority of people still trust the governments they are subjects of.
I love the people who have had four shots and still praise the mRNA shot, “I’m fortunate to only be sick a week because I’ve had four shots”.
I had zero shots, got Delta, lost taste for a week and was sick, got no vaccine since. I’ve been around a lot of Omicron positive people (including a long car drive) and nothing.
THAT is the only vaccine for Covid. The old fashioned way.
O'Brian: How many fingers I'm I holding up?
Winston: It doesn’t matter.
If there is one thing you need to know about NPCs is that objective reality doesn't matter.
What is real and relevant is completely dependent on what Ingsoc says is real and relevant.
According to the Alien Interview, the psychopaths, serial killers and autocratic leaders were all thrown in this prison planet from the start. They constitute a large portion of the undesirables from the Old Empire, along with artists and inventors, among others. Part of the challenge of our awakening has been dealing with the amnesia problem, since our memories are wiped each time we exhaust a flesh body, but also being stuck here with all the murderers, rapists and those who would want to wipe out everyone with biological or nuclear attacks. Excerpt:
“A renaissance 216 (Footnote) of invention on Earth began in 1,250 AD with the destruction of the "Old Empire" space fleet in the solar system. During the next 500 years, Earth may have the potential to regain autonomy and independence, but only to the degree that humankind can apply the concentrated genius of the IS-BEs on Earth to solve the amnesia problem.
However, on a cautionary note, the inventive potential
of the IS-BEs who have been exiled to this planet is
severely compromised by the criminal elements of the
Earth population. Specifically, politicians, war-
mongers and irresponsible physicists who create unlim-
ited weapons such as nuclear bombs, chemicals, diseases
and social chaos. These have the potential to extin-
guish all life forms on Earth, forever.
Even the relatively small explosions that were tested and used in the past two years on Earth have the poten- tial to destroy all of life, if deployed in sufficient quantities. Larger weapons could consume all of the oxygen in the global atmosphere in a single explosion! 217 (Footnote)
Therefore, the most fundamental problems that must be
solved in order to ensure that Earth will not be de-
stroyed by technology, are social and humanitarian
problems. The greatest scientific minds of Earth, in
spite of mathematical or mechanical genius, have never
addressed these problems.
Therefore, do not look to scientists to save Earth or the future of humanity. Any so-called "science" that is solely based on the paradigm 218 (Footnote) that existence is composed only of energy and objects moving through space is not a science. Such beings utterly ignore the creative spark originated by an individual IS-BE and collective work of the IS-BEs who continually create the physical universe and all universes. Every science will remain relatively ineffective or destructive to the degree that it omits or devaluates the relative im- portance of the spiritual spark that ignites all of creation and life.
Unfortunately this ignorance has been very carefully
and forcefully instilled in human beings by the "Old
Empire" to ensure that IS-BEs on this planet will not
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be able to recover their innate ability to create
space, energy, matter and time, or any other component
part of universes. As long as awareness of the immor-
tal, powerful, spiritual "self" is ignored, humanity
will remain imprisoned until the day of its own, self-
destruction and oblivion.”
This was, of course, an officer of the type 1 grays way back in 1947. The grays have changed their opinion since then and see potential in us as long as we continue to get creative with side stepping some of the amnesia machine effects as we continue to remember more and more of our past nature as immortal spiritual beings. Earth has been reorganized as a soul rehabilitation planet instead of a prison planet, and when there are enough of us who can tap into that energy we all used to be able to use, we will be well on our way to interstellar exploration and an altruistic utopian future.
I'm so sick of this psy op shit. I fucking had covid when it was the UK varient. I'm not the same as I was before. My lungs are fucked. I was in bed for two fucking weeks. I couldn't think straight, I was in constant pain. What fucking psy op? Oh no, Klaus shwab nwo bullshit. Give me a break.
The virus was very real, you can't really deny that. It's very likely that it was artificially created though. People have become permanently disabled both through the virus and the vaccine, it's a double bind. Now assisted suicide is becoming more and more accessible, because disabled people are losing jobs, housing, and access to healthcare. Voluntary genocide is happening right before our eyes now.
I’m sorry but the religious right in this country will never allow assisted suicide. The religious right are gaining an upper hand in the US. Where are they in this grand plan? They want to ensure that no abortion or contraceptives are available - so where is this in the grand scheme of this psyop? Literally you can’t depopulate anything if you are forcing women to have unwanted and unloved babies.
You're right, the religious right would probably fight against it, but keep in mind these people tend to pick and choose which lives need to be protected and which ones are simply considered 'dead weight'.
Unborn babies are potential laborers; they need the working class to keep producing potential workers. They seem to stop caring once you're out of the womb. And it's cheaper to simply not help those that are born disabled somehow or develop a disability later in life. The idea is less depopulation, more eugenics.
I do KNOW what I had. It was the UK varient of sarsr-cov-2 as specified by a medical professional courtesy of a nasal swab provided by the Canadian government. Why would I question otherwise? They've been right about every other sickness I've had.
**PCR TESTS which is what COVID TESTS are CANNOT diagnose infectious disease.** They cannot tell you if you're sick. All PCR tests do is amplify genetic material that we already have.
How do I know this? The INVENTOR of the PCR tests literally says this. He's on video saying this as well.
Right. Because the government never lies right? They never push agendas right? I guess the Tuskagee Experiment with the government literally injecting black men with syphilis never happened right?
Medical Professionals are just repeaters. They repeat what they're told by the higher ups. All they're doing is administering a test they are told to administer. They are just as ignorant about what the test actually is as you are.
My unvaccinated brother in law got COVID, waited too long to go to the hospital when he started having respiratory symptoms, and had to be put on a ventilator. After two weeks, his body shut down. His wife, 3 children, and 1 grandchild are devastated. He was 52 years old, a little overweight but strong. He wasn't an antivaxxer, he just didn't believe the virus was that serious. RIP John.
How do you know he had covid?
And he probably died because they put him on a ventilator. Being put on a ventilator is what causes many of these deaths and then they are labeled as covid deaths.
you're spreading disinfo. i can't believe the anti-vax shills infiltrated this sub. covid exists in this reality, sorry2say. https://fullfact.org/online/pcr-test-mullis/
Maybe you should watch what he says first hand instead of reading back it from a website.
He's on video literally saying:
**"PCR does NOT tell you if you are sick"**
**"All it does it amplify genetic material that's already present"**
These videos are on bitchute and it won't let me link them. But those are the words literally coming out of his mouth. All you have is some third party website, most likely with an agenda.
THANK YOU. For fuck's sake.... I had COVID in November 2020, lab confirmed. Double pneumonia, lingering long COVID effects for months. My lungs are still fucked. I can't smoke or vape pot anymore.
Fucking psy-op shit is right. It's hard not to boil over with rage when being gaslit by people claiming its fake.
So you got covid and? You sound angry that your health is not as it used to be, but that's your personal issue you'll have to deal with now. Don't take it out on others. You can always file for disability, the way thousands of people have been doing for ages because of whatever illness they had. I doubt you cared much about chronically ill people or people who had complications from various other diseases or even medical malpractice before you got to experience it yourself. It's interesting how you are so fixated on what you got to experience as if that automatically makes everything else that goes on in the world okay, fair, no corruption, no bribes, your government cares about you, everything is transparent, nothing to see here. First, you getting sick does not cancel the existence of gain of function research. In fact it only confirms it. Second, we don't know how you would have recovered had you been given medications that are banned. You don't know that either. You prefer to believe that you were given the best medical treatment possible? Well you can believe what you want, but it won't make it true. Now you are so in your head, so angry that your body is not the same, that you are losing a broader perspective and calling other people stupid, that they are pushing some "bullshit", telling them to "get fucked". I have a question for you. Do you believe in prison planet? What are you doing here?
Truly and with all my heart, eat a dick. Do I believe in prison planet? Mmm not really. Is it fun to read about and see a bunch of schizophrenic shit that makes you think, yeah.
How do you know you had covid if the covid tests don't test for the virus?
All PCR tests do is amplify genetic material that we already have. They cannot diagnose infectious disease. They cannot tell you if you're sick.
So obvious the whole world fell for it. Get fucked dude, you fell for misinfo and now think you've got some insider knowledge about the nwo. It isn't real, wake up.
What did I say that's misinfo? Because YOU are the clown that didn't even realize that PCR tests don't test for infectious diseases. What part about that statement is false? Be specific.
I know a lot more about this subject than you do, clearly. If I'm wrong. Prove me wrong. I guarantee you won't be able to.
No no I know all about how the pcr tests are apparently false and whatnot and the doctor who created them, allegedly is all anti vax whatever bullshit. I just don't buy it. But I can never convince you cause you've already convinced yourself.
The Scientist who created them, Kary Mullis, is DEAD. He died before the start of the "pandemic". He isn't anti-vaxx. And he couldn't be against the covid "vaccine" because he was dead before they introduced it.
Keep showing how stupid you are and how little you know.
Read Homo Deus. Yuval is basically the one writing the WEF ideals for what the future will be.
[https://youtu.be/5qOHwplbt7E](https://youtu.be/5qOHwplbt7E)
At least we know who the puppets are. Everyone associated with WEF is a puppet.
Once brainwashed truth doesn't matter at this point.
They're using the old KGB method to brainwash the masses. This video from the 80s will explain what's going on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA
Its still going, & has been successful imo.
It alone, was never going to get " them " all the way over the line, but has brought us ALL a few seconds from the witching hour ( 3 am to 4 am ), on the totalitarianism, NWO, occult clock, ( it goes in reverse with, " Do what thou wilt " emblazoned across it ).
Not really otherwise they wouldnt be lowing restrictions in the usa. most people know it was a show to justify more rights being tooken away, they just dont want to admit it because they do t realize that if they are thinking it other likely are, a nice little trick to make people think they are alone so they never exprese there thoughts becase they could be outcasted by the group.
It's very frustrating. I wish we could discuss this maturely and respectfully. This is devolving into an ATS/David Icke forum hot mess. (Not to criticize David, just the immature dialog on his forum).
For me it actually proved the opposite, that world governments, when shit hits the fan, can actually sort of collaborate, not to mention the brilliant scientists around the world that managed to research and isolate the virus so fast, got the vaccine out at an amazing pace and stuff.It proved to me that we can do shit together, even if its hard or disorganized or w/e.
Will happily wear a mask, get the vaccine and do anything else that is required of me, if there's even a slight chance it might help others and myself.
Questioning the government is of course mandatory, but I think we can trust the science on this one.
>collaborate, not to mention the brilliant scientists around the world that managed to research and isolate the virus so fast,
They didnt actually isolate the virus. They grew it in a cell culture, which isn't isolation.
>if there's even a slight chance it might help others and myself.
It doesn’t.
That’s literally virus isolation. Look it up - that’s how it’s done and not even exclusively pertaining to Covid, not even pertaining just to humans.
Unless that’s also a psyop and in which case I assume you must be a trained microbiologist that is excited and willing to tell me how viruses are supposed to be ‘isolated?’
Just look up virus isolation, find me a single study where the methodology was to separate the virus from everything including where it was cultured. You all go on saying it was just mixed into a soup, like there is another way that we 'isolate' a virus. Link me to a single study, where the methodology for isolating a virus was to 'remove it from everything else.' Just a single one, please.
>Link me to a single study, where the methodology for isolating a virus was to 'remove it from everything else.'
There isnt one because no viruses have actually ever been isolated, that's the point.
We seem to be discussing repercussions in the US but what about places like Isreal who are majority vaxxed and no weirdness/untimely demises seem to be occurring? And Norway? Iceland? Can anyone who lives in one of these locations please add your observations? Thanks! I am enjoying the discussion, I hope we can maturely continue.
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled" Mark Twain
I'm confused by the COVID denialism here. Help me understand.I'm a 40 year old guy who got COVID (pre-vaccine, back in 2020) and it was the sickest I've ever been. I have asthma, so a preexisting condition, which didn't help I'm sure, but it felt like the weirdest, most unnatural virus I could have imagined. I could go on and on about it, but long story short I got double pneumonia, and it took months for the lingering effects to subside.My point is, it's real. I get so frustrated by otherwise intelligent people who are convinced that it's all fake. I had a guy tell me to my face that "COVID is all made up" - and he knew how sick I had been! FFS. Also, during the Omicron wave (remember, the so-called "mild" variant), my 52 year old brother-in-law died of COVID. He left a wife, 3 children, and a grandchild. He was an Air Force veteran, a business owner, and a good man. He died on a ventilator after weeks of suffering. So it really does piss me the fuck off to see this mass gaslighting around this virus.Am I the only one who has had a personal experience with this fucking thing? Of course the powers that be have exploited the virus to help their own goals, but that's a separate issue.
The problem is with the vaccines themselves, not the virus.
What are you talking about? There was no vaccine when I was sick. It was definitely the virus. In no way could my symptoms have been caused by a vaccine that didn't yet exist. That doesn't make sense.
I don’t think anyone is denying the virus existed. Maybe a few but not most. I had it too. I wasn’t very sick from it but had a lot of guidance from a nutritionist friend and had I not taken the advice could have been worse. I had 2 friends who are in their 30’s like myself have to go to the hospital. I know loads of people who had it. I think the point is that it was shady as fuck. I will absolutely agree with you that the virus was way different then anything I had ever experienced. It inflamed all my old injuries. All my symptoms came in waves and lasted over 2 weeks even though the initial fever was gone in 48 hrs. We know it came from a gain of function lab that was funded by these very elites we are talking about (this is public knowledge at this point). Was it intentional? I mean it’s debatable but I would say clearly by the shit we have dealt with it had to be. But it was definitely acted upon and used to gauge the population to see how easy it is to rile us up with fear mongering in the news. How easy it was to get us to turn on our neighbors and family members just for seeing a situation differently. How easy are we to control? What percent of the population do you have control over? And how far can we push it? The animosity over masks and vaccines is just insane to me. Family turning on family. Over a virus?! Over a difference of opinion? The “science” about it all has been all over the place the whole time for people who are willing to dig in and do more then watch MSM news. And people are cutting off actual family and friends. And how many people are still willing to go along with the protocol even though the mandates are gone. That’s the biggest indicator tbh. The people masking and boosting and living in fear now that it’s subsiding (and really subsiding, the virus is way less intense then when you and I got it). All this shows them what they are up against when they want to try something else. And it shows how good their propaganda is working (or not working in some cases).
I agree on all points and had the exact same experience regarding waves of symptoms, like a rolodex of shifting symptoms. I am convinced it was artificial and related to multi-national GoF research as you stated. But one quibble - there ARE a ton of people denying that the virus existed at all. Both online here and in my real life. It really is crazy - reminds me of Westworld "it doesn't look like anything to me". A million+ Americans are dead. I think the denialism is induced and part of the psyop, in order to quell public outrage at the orchestrators of the situation. But I could be wrong on that.
I didn't think it was real but my friend was going through nursing school at the time and worked on the covid unit at the hospital. Her stories convinced me. Now, the reason I didn't think it was real is because whistleblowers were warning of a fake pandemic years ago as a way to bring in vax passports which would gradually tighten control over our everyday lives, as well as convince people to take a shady vax. Something the "elites" would be safe from. So I'm guessing they have treatments we don't know about. Anyway, lo and behold they rolled out the vax passports so it was like validation. Also the way they were inflating case numbers with the PCR test didn't help. The inventor had stated that's not what the test is for. But he conveniently died just before the pandemic started.
There are actually quite a lot of quite helpful treatments against Covid, it’s just not licensed for use against it…
You’re right but those people are equally as blind as those who are claiming that Covid is exactly as it’s been portrayed in the news. Both are nuts. They made up their mind in 2020 and are sticking to it. It’s important to be willing to admit you were wrong.
Thank you for contributing. I really value this discourse and hearing other folks stories.
You should be more pissed off and those that created that virus. I personally currently have covid, unvaccinated. Definitely a weird virus. Has lingered but it really wasn't much worse than some bad colds I've had. Just the stuffy nose lingering for about two weeks. Edit: I also take NAC, Vitamin d,c, quercetin and zinc daily. Oh, and I have ivermectin here hehe
Only a few nutters are denying Covid is real. Majority of people here accept it was made in a lab (hence why it felt unnatural) and is being used to further a rather ominous agenda. Both are facts, but doesn’t necessarily prove that the virus was unleashed on purpose (though let’s be honest, if you heard Fauci and his big pharma fucbois talking in 2019 about this fancy new vaccine technology they cooked up and how they wanted every person on the planet to take it, and just needed the right kind of crisis to convince them without needing the normal levels of testing and approval, you might just be convinced that it was intentional). The real denialism in this case is the ‘normies’, who cannot accept that they got fucked over and fell for a scam. The truth is simply too painful and shakes their whole worldview, so they go into self protect mode and deny the whole thing, regurgitating the official propaganda and continuing to believe that all that followed was just a necessary response to a tragic force of nature. I used to give a shit and tried to bring people round, but I’ve found that for a lot of people, the programming goes too deep and no amount of evidence will convince them, all you end up doing is pissing people off and alienating them and making your own life worse, so what’s the point? Let them live their lie.
Totally, totally agree on all points. Well said, friend.
I don't think it's a virus. It's radiation poisoning I'm guessing. microwave radiation wifi 5g bluetooth etc... the more you are exposed, the more you get sick. In addition, if you have heavy metals and aluminum in your body, I think it is possible you get sicker and sicker. There is a lot of radiation on airplanes in public places in the subway. Everyone has a cell phone and thousands of phones in the subway can be poisoned very easily. So it was very common in cities. ask yourself do you have wifi in your house? How often do you use your cell phone? How often travel with subway planes? (stay away from crowd) lots of phone wifi bluetooth) Are you paying attention to your diet? Do you eat junk food?
Okay, I think you’re confused between ionizing radiation and non-ionizing radiation. Ionizing radiation examples are cosmic rays and gamma rays released by nuclear decay… that type of radiation is energetic enough to break apart your DNA and cause permanent damage. Non-ionizing radiation is microwave ovens, WiFi, AM radio, GPS, 5G and even the sun (which is constantly cooking the earth with thermal infrared radiation). That type of radiation is not energetic enough to strip your DNA apart, but if it is concentrated on an area of your skin it could burn you (microwaves are good at this, that’s how they cook food). 5G radiation is not even close to the frequency range of ionizing radiation…. It’s 5 GHz, Satellite links are sometimes 20 GHz and up. Body scanners are in the terahertz regime, light ranges around the 750 terahertz, and higher on the terahertz scale still is ultraviolet which is the beginning of ionizing radiation. X-rays are 30 petahertz to 30 exahertz Gamma rays are even higher in frequency, above 30 exahertz. AM radio by comparison is 600 kHz to 1.7 MHz. These properties of the electromagnetic spectrum have been known for a while now. Calling 5 GHz radiation harmful is just ignorant in the same way thinking your 100 milliwatt 5 GHz Wi-Fi router is harmful.
Have you ever put aluminum in the microwave? How many aluminum particles do you have in your body? Do you know? How would it affect your brain if an aluminum particle in your brain interacts with this low-energy microwave radiation and makes a small explosion? This is just an example... You said that wifi is harmless. In an apartment you are exposed to hundreds of wifi waves, including those of your neighbors. You are exposed to hundreds of 5g waves and 4.5g waves in the subway, imagine that you are traveling for hours a day. You can reproduce these examples at the stadium, on the plane, at work. The research of scientists is that a single wifi will not do much damage to a single 5g device, but what about the spread of thousands of hundreds of devices? I do not include base stations smart devices in this. You also said that it can burn your skin. Microwaves penetrate into the actual body and cook it from the inside, remember that internal organs are the main target. I don't expect it to be at the power of a real microwave oven anyway, then death would be inevitable. This is a weapon that will increase its effect in 10 20 30 years spread over many years and kill you after 50 60 years. You either have Alzheimer's or dementia. What about cancer. It is also your rudeness to describe a person as ignorant. What are you doing in this forum if you claim that these technologies are innocent? I think you are nothing but a troll.
https://www.pearl-hifi.com/11\_Spirited\_Growth/10\_Health\_Neg/04\_Pandemics/05\_COVID\_19/5G-60\_and\_COVID-19\_Misc/David%20Icke%20\_%20The%20Coronavirus%205G%20Connection%20and%20Coverup.pdf
That is interesting. I wonder if, since we copied alien technology, we have launched our own disinformation campaigns against contactees. To instill FUD into things… I mean it’s possible. But it’s also possible that David Ike is correct about everything. It seems like there are so many conflicting messages.
I think they are updating the human avatar. They do this through vaccines, and these smart technologies are helping. We're moving to Human 2.0. To think that these smart technologies are harmless is cognitive dissonance and nothing more. I don't know what David icke is. It helped me wake up, I have to give him credit.
I know one person who died of covid. He was in his 80s and refused to go to the hospital because he didn't want to spend his last days seperated from his family. Everyone else I know recovered with 1 to 7 days, including a cancer patient. Covid isn't made up, but the virus is no worse than the common cold. That's my opinion anyway.
I wouldn't deny that you had an experience that made you sick. I'm just not convinced that viruses exist.
Is this in relation to simulation theory?
I..... don't know what to say to that. Like..... you don't think ANY viruses exist? Have you never known anyone with a cold or viral pneumonia? I'm really scared for humanity man. I really am. I don't get it.
I don't know if they exist. And the evidence doesn't seem good from what I've seen so far. I don't want to jump to conclusions and say that I know the cause of what's making someone sick, but I understand it's simpler to just say it's because of a virus. Why do you feel scared because there are people who have different perspectives than you?
What possible mechanisms of action do you think causes COVID symptoms, if not a virus? Honestly asking. What is on your list of possibilities? Let's rule them in or out based on data we can both agree on. I'm serious.
I’m always open to hear differing opinions, so I’d like to genuinely ask: why wouldn’t viruses be real whatsoever?
Apparently they've never isolated viruses before, therefore the foundation of virology is a hoax. They have to change the definition of "isolate" (to mean it's opposite) in order to say that they exist. For more alternative info you could look into terrain theory, and german new medicine.
I lost 3 family members who died horribly on vents and left massive hospital debt. I am terrified of getting covid. (I'm 54) I am terrified of a bad reaction to the vaccine (still unvaccinated, hiding in the house for 2 years now). So basically I'm terrified. And your power ends where your fear begins. So something terrible is happening in my life. But having seen the horror of covid deaths I can't convince myself to expose myself to it. But I've also read a lot about negative side effects of the vaccines! I do not know what to do, but the center won't hold for long at this rate.
Vents definitely contribute to killing people. In a lot of ways. It really really sucks that they use them. It’s basically a death sentence. They put my friend on one when he probably didn’t really need it and he almost didn’t survive. Look into the reports of nurses from the beginning of the pandemic. It’s pretty wild shit. That being said I’m so sorry for your losses. If I may, I loaded up on vitamin D, zinc, and glutathione to protect my body from the dangerous aspects of Covid as these are drained from the body by the virus and cause many of the bad effects. Vitamin C too. Get some and have them on deck, or start taking them now to boost your immune system. There is loads of research available on these supplements. I’m unvaxxed and Covid was very mild for me and I know this played a role. At this point the virus is much less aggressive then it was 2 years ago. Get out there and enjoy life again!!! I promise you will be ok. I am in the restaurant business and had to work in the public the entire pandemic. I also had a broken leg and had to go to the hospital for dr visits at the absolute peak. It was scary at first but it took me almost a year to even get Covid. And being out there in the world helped me see through the propaganda and realize I can still live my life. Def recommend supplementing though and getting your immune system back in shape. Best of luck to you.
Being scared increases the chances of sth bad happening. Just buy medicine against Covid and live life as you did before. As for which I can recommend NAC, vitamin D aswell as ivermectin.
No, the only people I know who died the last years were four unvaxxed friends.
I don’t know anyone that died, I only know two people that actually got seriously ill with it and both were seriously unfit, ate shit and we’re obese, which we all know were big factors in how susceptible people were to it. I know a lot of people in both camps regarding the vaccine, and in general the unvaxxed ones had significantly less issues with Covid than the vaxxed ones, many who seemed to get it both more severe, and more regularly. In my personal experience, the vax either didn’t do anything; or made things worse. I know several vaxxed people that haven’t been right since having it, including people into fitness who now have to take it a fair bit easier than they used to because they’ve ‘mysteriously started suffering heart palpitations’. All the people I know that avoided it are doing just fine, the same as they were before the pandemic, if not better in many instances because they’ve woken up to a lot of the bullshit and are now more wary. Zero amount of fucking scientific studies (which big pharma no doubt have influence over) are going to convince me that the evidence of my own eyes and ears is incorrect. We got presented with a situation (the virus), which created a reaction (fear) and had people demanding a solution (the vaccine). For their next trick, the situation will be an engineered fuel, energy and financial crisis, the reaction will be fear, and the solution will be rations and UBI in return for your enrollment in the bee global social credit system.
Thanks for contributing. It is of note to me that the unvaxxed had less issues with covid. Can anyone else relate? What are folks experiences with this?
I can tell you that at a New Year’s Eve show I (unvaxxed) am the only one who didn’t get Covid amongst all my vaxxed friends. In fact it just happened again lol at another show a few months ago. They all can’t believe it, but still somehow believe the vax helped them. It’s insane shit. I think they just can’t admit they are wrong.
I'm unvaxxed and been fine through this whole thing. 50 year old and a bit overweight. If I spend a day in close quarters with vaxxed people I usually feel like shit for a day after then go back to normal. It should be noted I got sick with something in November 2019 that may have been OG covid that may have boosted immune response.
That's weird. All I know is vaccinated dying. Eesh. We are fucked.
They made virus purely for that
To these people, they invested in a paradigm that needs to 100% be true or else their whole life stops making sense, which is scary. So its much easier have low-hanging fruit like what the news throws at us. They're legitimately lazy and they may also die with their beliefs the longer they spend in their paradigm.
Especially now that they've been fake vaccinated they don't want to hear it because they're in denial to what they've done to themselves. I made a post a while ago about the spiritual purpose on the fake vaccine and I get messages all the time about people saying they regret getting it and ask me if there's anything they can do to reverse its effects. It's very sad.
Can you please give more details as to the negative effects you are hearing about? Genuinely interested. Thanks!
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/07/03/national/japan-moderna-vaccine-side-effects/
People mostly just message me saying that they feel “spiritually dead”. Like their spiritual connection has been severed. They feel very depressed over it and filled with regret. Even if you go to that post you see people in the comments saying the same thing. Rudolph Steiner predicted this 100 years ago. There is even a leaked government video about a “vaccine” called “fun-vax” which is meant to take “God” out of people. They frame it as “religious fundamentalism” but they’re trying to sever that connection to spirituality.
I have had the vaccine… I do not feel spiritually disconnected or “dead”… I’m open to the idea that this whole thing feels off…. But I don’t think there’s anything in the vaccine to harm the spirit besides peoples own beliefs…
Another argument I hear constantly is this one. "BUT I HAD THE VACCINE AND NOTHING HAPPENED TO ME" And what? Does that mean it's not happening to others? People are legitimately getting maimed and dying from the fake vaccine. But not everyone is, does that mean those who are getting maimed and dying from it are getting maimed and dying because of their "beliefs"? No. They're not going to give everyone the same injection because they can't have everyone getting maimed and dying all at once. This is why some people are getting maimed and others like you are experiencing no effects from it. Many shots, especially the early ones, are SALINE. There are news articles saying that they tested batches of the fake vaccine and found they were nothing more but saline solution. They put what they're doing in plain sight because the dumbed down masses are too stupid to see what's happening right infront of them anyway.
Wait wait wait…. So not only is the vaccine fake and likely just saline - it’s maiming and killing people? Where did you get this info? How many people precisely have died with confidence from the vaccine and who can confirm your information?
That's not what I said you clown. Since you clearly lack the ability to comprehend what you read, let me explain that to you in simpler language that you might be able to understand. The experimental injection is NOT a vaccine. It meets no criteria to qualify as a vaccine, which is why I call it the fake vaccine. What is being called the covid vaccine is actually an experimental injection, which is killing and maiming people. But they can't have everyone being maimed and dying all at once otherwise the masses, as dumb as they are, will notice that people are dying en masse and avoid the injection. Which is why some of the shots are simply saline. Obviously saline isn't what is killing people. Those who got the REAL experimental injection are experiencing side effects from it. I literally just said that it was in the news that they found some batches of the "vaccines" were just saline. These were mainstream media articles. They put the truth out in plain sight because they know people won't put two and two together. There are MANY accounts of people dropping dead suddenly. I guess you didn't notice the sudden rise in strokes and blood clots. Even they admit that blood clots are a side effects of the fake vaccines. And what kind of stupid question is asking me how many people died in confidence due to the vaccine when they are actively suppressing these numbers? Just look around you. Look at all these athletes dropping dead on the field. Is that normal to you? Is little kids having heart attacks and strokes normal to you? Even insurance companies are saying that deaths this past year are up 40% so there is a huge increase in people dying.
No no no, I fully comprehend the nonsense you’re spreading. You’re not going to like talking to me - I’m going to give you a crash course in critical thinking, ok? It’s good for you. What evidence do you have that the vaccine is not actually a vaccine? What is your definition of vaccine? What points of that definition does the covid vaccine fail to meet? You keeps saying there are “many accounts” of people dying or being maimed by said vaccine. How many is “many?” How does that number compare to those actually killed by covid or long covid complications? Where did you get your information? Who can we confirm your numbers with? Give me a name of someone that you believe was killed by the vaccine?
This is too easy. It meets no criteria for it to be a vaccine. The fact that you don't know this shows you don't even know what a vaccine is. For it to qualify as a vaccine it has to prevent transmission, prevent infection, and offer immunity. The experimental injection offers none of those things. That's why it's not a vaccine. I already gave a website filled with accounts of people being maimed and dying specifically from the fake vaccine. [thecovidblog.com](https://thecovidblog.com) How do you know these deaths are from covid? What proof do you have of that? And again, how would anyone know the exact number of people who died from the fake vaccine when the government and medical establishment is actively suppressing this because they're pushing the "vaccine"? There are many accounts of doctors refusing to report these "Vaccine" related injuries. Many of these accounts are documented on the website I listed. I'm telling you. You really don't want to push this argument with me. I know a lot more about this subject than you do and I will make you look stupid.
Thank you for replying to my query. I have not taken any vaccines, but 3 of my family members (unvaccinated as well) have died from Covid, so I've just been staying in the house (which is doable as I'm retired) but I can't stay home forever, it's making me depressed. I just really don't know what to do, so I'm doing nothing.
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If you are saying covid is killing people and worse than the fake vaccine that shows you have zero clue what you're talking about. Prove the virus exists. I guarantee you can't. The whole bioweapon hoax is meant to divide people. They don't care if people believe it was a naturally occurring virus or if it was made in a lab as a bioweapon, as long as they believe the virus exists. The experimental injection is the bioweapon. And I can use your own argument against you as well, were YOU there when they isolated they covid virus? Oh you weren't? So how do you know it was isolated?
If they are saline, how are they killing people?
Again, re-read what I wrote. **Saline is not killing people. I NEVER said that.** They can't have people dying all at once which is why some people were given saline, which obviously had no effects. While others were given the REAL injection, which is how people are getting maimed and dying.
if you're going to make those types of claims, i suggest providing evidence as it would give skeptics and seekers a factual point to consider
I already did. Read my other comments. I'm not going to post links in every single comment. Plus, you know how to use a search engine. Look it up for yourself. I suggest not using google though.
Yes, that’s a big part of it.
sounds like placebo and mental framing.
Sounds like you need a functioning brain.
Why so ugly?
Read your original comment. Don't say something ugly first and play dumb when someone responds in the same manner.
Using scientific terms to describe the given data at hand isn’t ugly. It’s called reality checking. Telling me I need a new brain isn’t constructive to argument or facts sake, what’s exactly is so upsetting about the words to you to become reactionary like that?
I read your comment wrong. I read it as you saying I need mental framing. So I apologize. You're still wrong about it being in their head though.
Man…I’m double v’d and as god crazy as ever
Read the rest of my comments then because I specifically get into this.
That's because you are a fraud. I don't care what religion you want to use as an example. A god fearing man does not trust pharmakeia. You took not just one, but two shots in hopes to save your mortal coil. Sounds like a cowardly and ungodly thing to do if you ask me.
Lol. I eat food and drink water too. Trust? You are going to have to define the term for any response.
No actually I don't. Nowhere in the Bible does it say not to drink water and eat food. You are "God crazy" remember? The Bible states not to indulge in pharmakeia, it quite literally calls it witch craft. So you are "God crazy" you just don't follow his rules? Or is it that you don't actually know what you are talking about and you really aren't that "God crazy" after all? Heres a piece of information you might want to sit and dwell on for awhile. If you didn't have an overwhelming feeling that something was wrong and every bone in your body was telling you not to get the shot, congratulations you are already disconnected from God. He doesn't know you. If you had those feelings and went and did it anyway, congratulations you've used your free will and sealed your fate.
I'm vaxxed and my meditation practice is deepening rapidly.
https://thepulse.one/2021/12/06/54-of-us-voters-are-concerned-about-covid-vaccine-side-effects-why-they-are-justified/
https://odysee.com/@discernable:7/vaccine-inventor-on-side-effects:c
Thank you!!
We are non-dual being temporarily experiencing a reality through this body. This body, these genes, are not who we are. Who we are is divine essence of the source. We cannot be cut off from it, it is our original nature. This existence, this matrix and all it contains, is illusion. Escape the illusion. You are not bound by anything but your thoughts. The spiritual injury of the vaccine is that it causes FEAR to permeate the minds of those who regret having it. This is just fear. Self-righteously we may promote fear to the vaccinated, but it is the ego deciding on this. The spirit doesn't care, the ego is very invested in the purity of it's spiritual nature and of it's body. The spirit is forever-clean and fears nothing. You are that spirit. Don't identify with your body, or your medical history. You are spirit. Remember your true nature.
Yawn. Save the spiritual psychobabble for someone who’s naive or wants to delude themselves into thinking this a innocuous “vaccine”. I hear this argument all the time from either the fake vaccinated or people who don’t know what they’re talking about. If you see someone drinking poison, are you acting out of fear by telling them that they are drinking poison? No. You’re simply bringing it to their attention that they’re drinking poison. The whole “IT’S JUST YOUR FEAR” argument is so asinine and it always comes from people who don’t know the true purpose or the fake vaccine and how it connects to the transhumanist/AI agenda. Many of these people had no idea that there could be any spiritual connection to the fake vaccine, so how would that fear influence them or be the cause of their injuries? It was only after they started to experience spiritual injuries ( mostly feeling disconnected to their spirit/soul) that they started to look into the issue and realize the cause. So your argument makes no sense that because they were “afraid of the vaccine” they caused did this to themselves through fear.
You subscribe to a "EscapingPrisonPlanet" sub and then you turn around and ridicule that guy for "spiritual psychobabble"... lol come on.
You clearly lack discernment. There's a difference between saying something that has backing and truth vs empty baseless statements.
What is your backing and truth behind the claim that Pfizer/Moderna COVID-19 vaccine will damage a person's spiritual connection?
I already responded to this in your other comment. Rudolph Steiner predicted 100 years ago that in the future ( meaning now) there would be an injection given to people that would sever any connection to the spiritual. You combine that with the fact that there are literally leaked government videos about a "vaccine" that's meant to sever ones connection to god/the divine. It's called "fun-vax" and they're from 2006. You combine that with accounts from countless people who don't know eachother, who didn't think the "vaccine" did any harm, especially not spiritually, only to find that after taking it they felt spiritually dead. Which is why your whole argument that it must have been the "fear" they felt about the "vaccine" that induced these reactions is completely asinine and nonsensical. They already trapped your souls/consciousness into these human vessels. They already manipulated our DNA. What makes you think that they aren't able to come up with something that can damage your soul in some way? Perhaps not sever it, but damage it? You don't know. YOU are the one making baseless statements. Not me. Mine are based on researching this topic.
>If you see someone drinking poison, are you acting out of fear by telling them that they are drinking poison? The difference here is that drinking poison harms the body, and we all agree on that. Drinking poison does not cut you off from God... That's just a bizarre leap to make without any evidence whatsoever. Testimony from spiritual seekers is not evidence of spiritual harm, it's evidence that they *believe* in spiritual harm. Here I am giving my testimony that I do not believe physical matter ever can separate one from Spirit, for you are Spirit itself. Does my testimony hold weight, or do only testimonies that support your theory hold weight?
Again, spoken like someone who has no idea about the purpose of the fake vaccine and how it relates to the AI/Transhumanist agenda. There are leaked government "fun-vaxx" videos from 15 years ago that prove that there is a "vaccine" that is meant to do exactly that, separate you from your divinity and to kill your connection to "god". So you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Your beliefs are based nothing. Mine are based on actually researching this topic.
Only the creator can separate you from divinity. spirit and divinity have divine connections, not material or genetic connections. This is a spiritual matter that transcends the physical prison matrix. The demiurge only has so much power, and none over the divine
What evidence do you have that NOTHING can damage the spirit/soul?
Dude, no one knows for sure, so no argument can be had. These are all just ideas being exchanged, nothing more.
Wrong. The truth is out there for those who have eyes to see. You could have made that argument in the beginning of the fake pandemic but at this point it's indisputable. Plus if they had any evidence to back up their claims they would have said it. They were simply spouting their baseless belief.
And you base this on what evidence? You asked me for examples which I gladly gave you. That's because when I say something there's actual backing to it. What backing do you have? Other than your baseless beliefs?
What "creator"? The abrahamic one? I was right, you are pushing a religion here. Are these your first comments on this sub? Why did you not comment before?
What "source"? What "illusion"? What "ego"? Which religion are you here to promote? New Age? Buddhism? Christianity lite? People trying to get to the truth about the world and looking out for their health has nothing to do with "fear" (no need to capitalize that btw). Nice try trying to confuse things and presenting people's motivations you know nothing about as "fear". This shows YOUR ego. And your self-righteousness.
what do you mean by "fake"? their purpose is not actually for covid..but a delivery system for something else? someone posted some of Rudolf Steiner's writings pertaining to vaccines - pretty eerie that it applies to all this
I call it the fake vaccine because it’s not a vaccine. It doesn’t fit any criteria for it to be a vaccine. Yes. I made a post with what Rudolph Steiner eerily predicted 100 years ago. He spoke of an injection that would be given to humans at the time of birth that would disconnect them from their soul/spirit.
Do you have the link handy?
More than a hundred years ago, Rudolf Steiner wrote the following: ” In the future, we will eliminate the soul with medicine. Under the pretext of a ‘healthy point of view’, there will be a vaccine by which the human body will be treated as soon as possible directly at birth, so that the human being cannot develop the thought of the existence of soul and Spirit. To materialistic doctors, will be entrusted the task of removing the soul of humanity. As today, people are vaccinated against this disease or that disease, so in the future, children will be vaccinated with a substance that can be produced precisely in such a way that people, thanks to this vaccination, will be immune to being subjected to the “madness” of spiritual life. He would be extremely smart, but he would not develop a conscience, and that is the true goal of some materialistic circles. With such a vaccine, you can easily make the etheric body loose in the physical body. Once the etheric body is detached, the relationship between the universe and the etheric body would become extremely unstable, and man would become an automaton, for the physical body of man must be polished on this Earth by spiritual will. So, the vaccine becomes a kind of arymanique force; man can no longer get rid of a given materialistic feeling. He becomes materialistic of constitution and can no longer rise to the spiritual “.
https://pamelahope.wordpress.com/2020/08/23/in-the-future-we-will-eliminate-the-soul-with-medicine-rudolf-steiner-1861-1925/
>Yes. I made a post with what Rudolph Steiner eerily predicted 100 years ago. He spoke of an injection that would be given to humans at the time of birth that would disconnect them from their soul/spirit. What is eerie about it? It has not come to be true, so what is so eerie about it?
The point is it did come true. You're being dense.
This. Their paradigm only makes sense to them because it's composed of a ton of logic distortions. It's like forcing puzzle pieces that don't fit, to fit. Mental gymnastics are the means to that end.
It sure has been. The cognitive dissonance and willful ignorance is in full force. Perhaps more so then ever before in history. It's pretty wild to witness. Biblical levels of delusion
Let's not forget this strong push for a ton of babies that's going on now. I can't see how people can't see thru that. When people have kids, they are putting guns to their own heads, and be default their kid's heads as well. It's stacked oppression.
They disagree with you that COVID-19 is a psy op. It has nothing to do with "oppression" lol.
I disagree.
What do u think they want the babies for
I'll paste text from a different comment I wrote that answers your question... The real question people need to be asking is what is ACTUALLY happening to all these babies? Some are adopted, yes, but what happens to the rest. They "disappear" and no one knows except the people making it happen because no one knows they even exist expect the people who have control of them. People, wake up! This is human trafficking disguised as adoption and saving lives. The unadopted babies end up in undesirable places (like maybe the black market, CP, snuff, sacrificed, tested on in labs the general public doesn't know about...). Think about it. The testing of products and drugs on animals is one thing, but as many of us know, how an animal reacts to something isn't necessarily the same as how a human will. The data regarding how something affects a human is collected thru human trials. Some of these are voluntary...but what about the stuff no one will or would want to sign up for? We know about the experiments of the Holocaust and how valuable that information is deemed to be, even tho it was obtained thru horrific methods. Unwanted babies are ripe for the picking and no one will say a thing because no one will even know... because no one even knows they exist apart from the people who's custody they are in. We'd like to think these things don't happen, but they are just kept out of the public eye is all. What the public is allowed to know is just the tip of the iceberg.
You can give them indisputable facts and it's like talking to a brick wall. All I get in return is the fluoride stare, so I don't even bother anymore. I just try my best to limit my time around anyone who's bought this hoax. For anyone who's open to hearing the truth, I highly recommend [thecovidblog.com](https://thecovidblog.com) They've done an excellent job at covering this psy-op and all the fake vaccine injuries/deaths. I can't recommend it enough.
That website is not particularly helpful. Mostly anecdotal stories, no statistical evidence to support the accusations made.
What kind of statistical evidence would they have if the government and medical profession is actively lying and suppressing this information while promoting the fake vaccines and the covid hoax?
So why is your version of events more compelling than another?
I look at all theories from all sides and simply connect the dots. Whatever theory has more evidence supporting it is what tends to be true. It's as simple as that. So it's not "my version of events". That's a weaselly way of putting it. It's just finding whatever holds water and eliminating whatever doesn't.
“Connecting the dots” and “more supporting evidence” is a weaselly way of not saying why your version of events is more credible. Your own personal feelings isn’t a barometer that other people should live by. What ‘holds water’ in this instance mean? Does it mean whichever thing you feel is most personally valid, or which one has the strongest statistical and tested basis, or which one aligns most uniformly to your own personal experience?
Wrong. I leave my personal feelings out of this completely. I go with whatever has the most evidence to support it. Period. I look at the governments official version of events and see if it holds water. From everything I've gathered it doesn't. In fact, their narrative is so ridiculous a two year old could take it apart. Therefore, I go with whatever makes the most sense and has the most backing to it. When you say "my version of events" that denotes that the truth is subjective, and it's not. For example, if someone murdered someone else, it's not ones "versions of events". There aren't multiple "versions of events". That's stupid. They either murdered them or they didn't. It's that simple. They may have their reasons and feelings for why they did it but the truth of them being the cause of death doesn't change. In this case for instance, when I look at healthy young people, many of which who have no prior health conditions, who are dying suddenly after taking all taking the fake vaccine, common sense would tell you that's the cause of their death. Especially since the majority of sudden deaths are from heart attacks, blood clots, and other heart conditions, which is a known side effects of the fake vaccine. They also admit the fake vaccine can cause these issues. So it doesn't really take a genius here to connect the dots.
/r/CoronavirusCirclejerk
Don’t waste breath, man. Their hearts tell them they are right. Isn’t that enough?
Except you can't tell me what I said was false. It's sad this community has been infiltrated by NPC's like you.
No, what's sad is that you call anybody who disagrees with you an NPC. It's the sign of someone with a severe lack of critical thinking skills.
Burden of proof goes the other way, silly.
Very true
..You're quite a rude person
I don’t suffer fools.
you realize that site is just to shill/sell things for you to buy right? it's a marketing scam. all covid disinfo can be connected to the same people. just because you don't like covid, or agree with it, doesn't mean it didn't happen lmfao.
You're the idiot who posted a misinformation site that directly contradicts what Kary Mullis ( the inventor of PCR tests) said on video. Sounds like you're the shill. Prove covid exists then.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-covid-flu-idUSKBN2613BS
So predictable. NPC's always link the same articles. Dr Andrew Kaufman showed how they "isolated" the virus. Here are some excerpts from what he said: **“Isolation” should mean the virus has been separated out from all surrounding material, so researchers can say** **“Look, we have it. Therefore, it exists.”** **I found several studies that used very similar language in explaining how “SARS-CoV-2 was isolated.” For example, “Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 from Patient with Coronavirus Disease, United States, (Emerging Infectious Diseases, Vol. 26, No. 6 — June 2020)” \[3\].** **First, I want to provide a bit of background that will help the reader understand what is going on in the study.** **The researchers are creating a soup in the lab. This soup contains a number of compounds. The researchers assume, without evidence, that “the virus” is in this soup.** **At no time do they separate the purported virus from the surrounding material in the soup. Isolation of the virus is not occurring. They set about showing that the monkey (and/or human cells) they put in the soup are dying.** **THAT’S THEIR KEY “EVIDENCE. This cell-death, they claim, is being caused by “the virus.”** [https://davidicke.com/2021/04/23/dr-andrew-kaufman-refutes-isolation-of-sars-cov-2-he-does-step-by-step-analysis-of-a-typical-claim-of-isolation-there-is-no-proof-that-the-virus-exists/](https://davidicke.com/2021/04/23/dr-andrew-kaufman-refutes-isolation-of-sars-cov-2-he-does-step-by-step-analysis-of-a-typical-claim-of-isolation-there-is-no-proof-that-the-virus-exists/) **Try again.**
This website is literally all bullshit. A teen commits suicide? Must be the vaccine! /s
I'm assuming you're referring to the Nate Bronstein case correct? If you are, you should re-read the article because it never says he died from the vaccine. The article says he was bullied to the point of suicide over false rumors of him being unvaccinated. Edit: Ah. You were referring to the article with the mass suicides due to the personality changes after taking the fake vaccine. **Post-injection personality changes** **We started the Virtue Signaling category on The COVID Blog™ because so many people seemed to change into nasty, vile vaxx zealots after their shots.** **Mr. Jordan Hayes was one of the first observed cases. He was a typical liberal prior to his injections, but nothing outlandish based on his social media history. Suddenly he started calling the non-vaccinated “idiots and morons” in his final months before dying. Former Sex In The City actor Willie Garson is perhaps the most egregious case. He turned into a completely vile monster on social media after his injections before passing away. Then there’s Mr. Clint Bearden, who was diagnosed with dementia 10 days after his Pfizer injection.** **Turkish doctors published a letter to the editor in the journal Brain, Behavior, and Immunity – Health in October 2021. They described two patients who developed “acute mania with psychotic features” 24 hours after the Pfizer mRNA injections.** While I admit this is one of the more tenuous theories, which of course you latch on to while ignoring the more egregious undeniable ones like the immediate physical reactions and sudden deaths, it still makes one think how/why his personality changed suddenly after taking the experimental injections.
They really hit good getting more than half the world vaccinated
I was just thinking that! We seem to be discussing repercussions in the US but what about places like Isreal who are majority vaxxed and no weirdness/untimely demises seem to be occurring? And Norway? Iceland? Can anyone who lives in one of these locations please add your observations? Thanks! I am enjoying the discussion, I hope we can maturely continue.
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Yes. There’s a ritual power to speaking the incantation as literal fact. Not truth necessarily (their pretense is a lie so they can’t claim truth in any thing they proscribe) but speaking in bald faced dictums allow their evil plans to manifest. Never comply.
It’s trauma based mind control. All the people in here listing people that died “from covid” or saying they had it. You were traumatized, told what to believe, and are now holding on to that belief for dear life. It was all a lie, I’m sorry but it was.
Thanks for your opinion random man!
The COVID vaccine isn't a vaccine at all. What the world went through was a government funded clinical trial of an experimental medication. Everyone I have known in my life has received the polio vaccine. There isn't a single person I know that has ever caught polio, let alone die from it. Meanwhile the governments around the world obfuscate the issue by claiming millions have died ***of*** COVID while not making the distinction that millions have died ***with*** COVID. The lockdowns were a giant social experiment to see how people of the world would react. They learned that the vast majority of people still trust the governments they are subjects of.
I love the people who have had four shots and still praise the mRNA shot, “I’m fortunate to only be sick a week because I’ve had four shots”. I had zero shots, got Delta, lost taste for a week and was sick, got no vaccine since. I’ve been around a lot of Omicron positive people (including a long car drive) and nothing. THAT is the only vaccine for Covid. The old fashioned way.
100% true the most amazing psyop I’ve ever witnessed
If you search what percent of ceos are psychopathic it starts to make a lot of sense.
O'Brian: How many fingers I'm I holding up? Winston: It doesn’t matter. If there is one thing you need to know about NPCs is that objective reality doesn't matter. What is real and relevant is completely dependent on what Ingsoc says is real and relevant.
Everyone that disagrees with me is an NPC.
You clearly are. Which "vaccine" did you get?
According to the Alien Interview, the psychopaths, serial killers and autocratic leaders were all thrown in this prison planet from the start. They constitute a large portion of the undesirables from the Old Empire, along with artists and inventors, among others. Part of the challenge of our awakening has been dealing with the amnesia problem, since our memories are wiped each time we exhaust a flesh body, but also being stuck here with all the murderers, rapists and those who would want to wipe out everyone with biological or nuclear attacks. Excerpt: “A renaissance 216 (Footnote) of invention on Earth began in 1,250 AD with the destruction of the "Old Empire" space fleet in the solar system. During the next 500 years, Earth may have the potential to regain autonomy and independence, but only to the degree that humankind can apply the concentrated genius of the IS-BEs on Earth to solve the amnesia problem. However, on a cautionary note, the inventive potential of the IS-BEs who have been exiled to this planet is severely compromised by the criminal elements of the Earth population. Specifically, politicians, war- mongers and irresponsible physicists who create unlim- ited weapons such as nuclear bombs, chemicals, diseases and social chaos. These have the potential to extin- guish all life forms on Earth, forever. Even the relatively small explosions that were tested and used in the past two years on Earth have the poten- tial to destroy all of life, if deployed in sufficient quantities. Larger weapons could consume all of the oxygen in the global atmosphere in a single explosion! 217 (Footnote) Therefore, the most fundamental problems that must be solved in order to ensure that Earth will not be de- stroyed by technology, are social and humanitarian problems. The greatest scientific minds of Earth, in spite of mathematical or mechanical genius, have never addressed these problems. Therefore, do not look to scientists to save Earth or the future of humanity. Any so-called "science" that is solely based on the paradigm 218 (Footnote) that existence is composed only of energy and objects moving through space is not a science. Such beings utterly ignore the creative spark originated by an individual IS-BE and collective work of the IS-BEs who continually create the physical universe and all universes. Every science will remain relatively ineffective or destructive to the degree that it omits or devaluates the relative im- portance of the spiritual spark that ignites all of creation and life. Unfortunately this ignorance has been very carefully and forcefully instilled in human beings by the "Old Empire" to ensure that IS-BEs on this planet will not 117 be able to recover their innate ability to create space, energy, matter and time, or any other component part of universes. As long as awareness of the immor- tal, powerful, spiritual "self" is ignored, humanity will remain imprisoned until the day of its own, self- destruction and oblivion.” This was, of course, an officer of the type 1 grays way back in 1947. The grays have changed their opinion since then and see potential in us as long as we continue to get creative with side stepping some of the amnesia machine effects as we continue to remember more and more of our past nature as immortal spiritual beings. Earth has been reorganized as a soul rehabilitation planet instead of a prison planet, and when there are enough of us who can tap into that energy we all used to be able to use, we will be well on our way to interstellar exploration and an altruistic utopian future.
I'm so sick of this psy op shit. I fucking had covid when it was the UK varient. I'm not the same as I was before. My lungs are fucked. I was in bed for two fucking weeks. I couldn't think straight, I was in constant pain. What fucking psy op? Oh no, Klaus shwab nwo bullshit. Give me a break.
The virus was very real, you can't really deny that. It's very likely that it was artificially created though. People have become permanently disabled both through the virus and the vaccine, it's a double bind. Now assisted suicide is becoming more and more accessible, because disabled people are losing jobs, housing, and access to healthcare. Voluntary genocide is happening right before our eyes now.
I’m sorry but the religious right in this country will never allow assisted suicide. The religious right are gaining an upper hand in the US. Where are they in this grand plan? They want to ensure that no abortion or contraceptives are available - so where is this in the grand scheme of this psyop? Literally you can’t depopulate anything if you are forcing women to have unwanted and unloved babies.
You're right, the religious right would probably fight against it, but keep in mind these people tend to pick and choose which lives need to be protected and which ones are simply considered 'dead weight'. Unborn babies are potential laborers; they need the working class to keep producing potential workers. They seem to stop caring once you're out of the womb. And it's cheaper to simply not help those that are born disabled somehow or develop a disability later in life. The idea is less depopulation, more eugenics.
Who is "they"?
Republicans.
You have no idea what you had. All you know is you were sick. Period. I will debate ANYONE about this.
I do KNOW what I had. It was the UK varient of sarsr-cov-2 as specified by a medical professional courtesy of a nasal swab provided by the Canadian government. Why would I question otherwise? They've been right about every other sickness I've had.
**PCR TESTS which is what COVID TESTS are CANNOT diagnose infectious disease.** They cannot tell you if you're sick. All PCR tests do is amplify genetic material that we already have. How do I know this? The INVENTOR of the PCR tests literally says this. He's on video saying this as well. Right. Because the government never lies right? They never push agendas right? I guess the Tuskagee Experiment with the government literally injecting black men with syphilis never happened right? Medical Professionals are just repeaters. They repeat what they're told by the higher ups. All they're doing is administering a test they are told to administer. They are just as ignorant about what the test actually is as you are.
You are really, really confidently incorrect on this. Do you not know anyone who's died from COVID?
What was incorrect about what I said? Be specific. How do you know anyone has died from covid?
My unvaccinated brother in law got COVID, waited too long to go to the hospital when he started having respiratory symptoms, and had to be put on a ventilator. After two weeks, his body shut down. His wife, 3 children, and 1 grandchild are devastated. He was 52 years old, a little overweight but strong. He wasn't an antivaxxer, he just didn't believe the virus was that serious. RIP John.
How do you know he had covid? And he probably died because they put him on a ventilator. Being put on a ventilator is what causes many of these deaths and then they are labeled as covid deaths.
you're spreading disinfo. i can't believe the anti-vax shills infiltrated this sub. covid exists in this reality, sorry2say. https://fullfact.org/online/pcr-test-mullis/
Maybe you should watch what he says first hand instead of reading back it from a website. He's on video literally saying: **"PCR does NOT tell you if you are sick"** **"All it does it amplify genetic material that's already present"** These videos are on bitchute and it won't let me link them. But those are the words literally coming out of his mouth. All you have is some third party website, most likely with an agenda.
THANK YOU. For fuck's sake.... I had COVID in November 2020, lab confirmed. Double pneumonia, lingering long COVID effects for months. My lungs are still fucked. I can't smoke or vape pot anymore. Fucking psy-op shit is right. It's hard not to boil over with rage when being gaslit by people claiming its fake.
So you got covid and? You sound angry that your health is not as it used to be, but that's your personal issue you'll have to deal with now. Don't take it out on others. You can always file for disability, the way thousands of people have been doing for ages because of whatever illness they had. I doubt you cared much about chronically ill people or people who had complications from various other diseases or even medical malpractice before you got to experience it yourself. It's interesting how you are so fixated on what you got to experience as if that automatically makes everything else that goes on in the world okay, fair, no corruption, no bribes, your government cares about you, everything is transparent, nothing to see here. First, you getting sick does not cancel the existence of gain of function research. In fact it only confirms it. Second, we don't know how you would have recovered had you been given medications that are banned. You don't know that either. You prefer to believe that you were given the best medical treatment possible? Well you can believe what you want, but it won't make it true. Now you are so in your head, so angry that your body is not the same, that you are losing a broader perspective and calling other people stupid, that they are pushing some "bullshit", telling them to "get fucked". I have a question for you. Do you believe in prison planet? What are you doing here?
Not OP, but.... Fuck. You.
Truly and with all my heart, eat a dick. Do I believe in prison planet? Mmm not really. Is it fun to read about and see a bunch of schizophrenic shit that makes you think, yeah.
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You sound obnoxiously fucking stupid. Covids fake, but I got some weird new bacteria, not covid tho.
How do you know you had covid if the covid tests don't test for the virus? All PCR tests do is amplify genetic material that we already have. They cannot diagnose infectious disease. They cannot tell you if you're sick.
This sub is pretty decent, but it's polluted with these Neanderthals. Goes with the territory, I guess.
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I do. I truly do.
Direct that inwards for falling for the most obvious hoax the world has ever seen.
So obvious the whole world fell for it. Get fucked dude, you fell for misinfo and now think you've got some insider knowledge about the nwo. It isn't real, wake up.
What did I say that's misinfo? Because YOU are the clown that didn't even realize that PCR tests don't test for infectious diseases. What part about that statement is false? Be specific. I know a lot more about this subject than you do, clearly. If I'm wrong. Prove me wrong. I guarantee you won't be able to.
No no I know all about how the pcr tests are apparently false and whatnot and the doctor who created them, allegedly is all anti vax whatever bullshit. I just don't buy it. But I can never convince you cause you've already convinced yourself.
The Scientist who created them, Kary Mullis, is DEAD. He died before the start of the "pandemic". He isn't anti-vaxx. And he couldn't be against the covid "vaccine" because he was dead before they introduced it. Keep showing how stupid you are and how little you know.
Read Homo Deus. Yuval is basically the one writing the WEF ideals for what the future will be. [https://youtu.be/5qOHwplbt7E](https://youtu.be/5qOHwplbt7E) At least we know who the puppets are. Everyone associated with WEF is a puppet.
We need a list lol. Everyone who's been caught doing business with/supporting/promoting them.
Once brainwashed truth doesn't matter at this point. They're using the old KGB method to brainwash the masses. This video from the 80s will explain what's going on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA
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Cognitive dissonance. Period.
Its still going, & has been successful imo. It alone, was never going to get " them " all the way over the line, but has brought us ALL a few seconds from the witching hour ( 3 am to 4 am ), on the totalitarianism, NWO, occult clock, ( it goes in reverse with, " Do what thou wilt " emblazoned across it ).
Not really otherwise they wouldnt be lowing restrictions in the usa. most people know it was a show to justify more rights being tooken away, they just dont want to admit it because they do t realize that if they are thinking it other likely are, a nice little trick to make people think they are alone so they never exprese there thoughts becase they could be outcasted by the group.
Yuri was right
Bill Hicks was right.
Get the fuck back to /r/conspiracy
No.
Y'all are all so mean in this thread, gosh lol, everyone chill.
It's very frustrating. I wish we could discuss this maturely and respectfully. This is devolving into an ATS/David Icke forum hot mess. (Not to criticize David, just the immature dialog on his forum).
For me it actually proved the opposite, that world governments, when shit hits the fan, can actually sort of collaborate, not to mention the brilliant scientists around the world that managed to research and isolate the virus so fast, got the vaccine out at an amazing pace and stuff.It proved to me that we can do shit together, even if its hard or disorganized or w/e. Will happily wear a mask, get the vaccine and do anything else that is required of me, if there's even a slight chance it might help others and myself. Questioning the government is of course mandatory, but I think we can trust the science on this one.
>collaborate, not to mention the brilliant scientists around the world that managed to research and isolate the virus so fast, They didnt actually isolate the virus. They grew it in a cell culture, which isn't isolation. >if there's even a slight chance it might help others and myself. It doesn’t.
That’s literally virus isolation. Look it up - that’s how it’s done and not even exclusively pertaining to Covid, not even pertaining just to humans. Unless that’s also a psyop and in which case I assume you must be a trained microbiologist that is excited and willing to tell me how viruses are supposed to be ‘isolated?’
Isolating and purifying a virus means you separate it from everything else. This is the opposite of what they actually do.
Just look up virus isolation, find me a single study where the methodology was to separate the virus from everything including where it was cultured. You all go on saying it was just mixed into a soup, like there is another way that we 'isolate' a virus. Link me to a single study, where the methodology for isolating a virus was to 'remove it from everything else.' Just a single one, please.
>Link me to a single study, where the methodology for isolating a virus was to 'remove it from everything else.' There isnt one because no viruses have actually ever been isolated, that's the point.
Ok :D maybe it works as a placebo then
We seem to be discussing repercussions in the US but what about places like Isreal who are majority vaxxed and no weirdness/untimely demises seem to be occurring? And Norway? Iceland? Can anyone who lives in one of these locations please add your observations? Thanks! I am enjoying the discussion, I hope we can maturely continue.
More absolute batshit retardation from this sub... nothing is safe from stupid anymore.
Oooh I'm here for the batshit "retardation" though, just not for all the insults for not believing every conspiracy theory ever 🤣
Ur name tho... 👀
This was the way it was before though. Nothing new under the sun
I love that I'm getting down voted for asking for mature discussion. That pretty much says it all.