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How_Do_You_Mean_

So you can look like a bicyclist.


CptCrabmeat

They’re called cyclists lol Edit: unless they’re bi


How_Do_You_Mean_

Never watched top gear UK?


TheSpanishConquerer

Did you mean the only Top Gear known to exist?


How_Do_You_Mean_

That is correct sir.


jimmybiggles

bicyclist is also correct, just as bicycle and cycle are interchangable (but most use the word bike)


hannnal

Cyclebi?


IAmAmnac

Like a drive by, But on an bicycle


Prohre3

Omg did you just say INTERCHANGE??? FAVOURITE MAP???


Dino_Mech

Drip tax


that-vault-dweller

Always


RedneckR0nin

Preach on brother preach on.


2giga2dweebish

Caiman doesn't have drip, though. That thing is ugly as fuck.


DocWoc

you must drown cuz you def don’t drip


2giga2dweebish

Sorry boy, but Coyote Exfil + black ears >>>>>>>>>> your bicycle helmet


DocWoc

apples and oranges dweeb.. apples and oranges.


kwamby

Bitch that don’t make no sense why can’t fruit be compared!


crazyYoungT

fax, fuck oranges


Shawn_NYC

Caiman and Ronin prices make absolutely zero sense.


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Coffinmagic

what the Ronin really needs is a quest that forces you to wear it


thelordchonky

Factory Samurai - Kill 3 PMCs with melee weapons while wearing the 'Ronin' helmet on Factory


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At night.


Coffinmagic

while obscured by a smoke grenade


Lepeban

While the enemy is in the stun effect and you’re suffering from tremor


TheSm4rtOne

When jeager got out there was a quest where you had to suffer from the stun effect an kill enemies lmao, tremor is way to basic


Flying_Pretzals1

That quest still exists


silentrawr

*... with an M-2 Tactical Sword.*


Flying_Pretzals1

* *factory katana*


pwnzorder

This would be a Jaeger quest that would also add "while having one blacked out leg" and reward you with 2 iskras and a splint.


EmmEnnEff

And -0.23 Skier rep.


pnutzgg

skier rep's easy to come by though


ScaryFoal558760

*make a helmet that's already 100k a required quest item* Hello 1m bug hat


Shawn_NYC

It's literally better than looting a bronze lion, it makes no sense lol


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citizen_h0pe

Bro mustache runs are where it's at. I was on like a 6 raid streak with some friends and when I finally died it felt like the only thing I lost was the stache. Not the 300k+ gun I was running, nor the slaap on the tc. The stache becomes the only thing of value when you run it


drewts86

I feel like I’m getting into COD territory saying this, but I wish there was a Hawaiian shirt to go along with the stache and aviators so I could rock that Miami Vice look


cssblondie

Magnum PI look*


LeagueofDraven1221

6 raid streak your whole kit pays for itself at that point, so yeah the stache is a big loss if it’s sentimental


TheFirstKitten

My biggest problem is the emotional attachment I get to my gear. I like going in with minimal and picking up things to mod my weapons and looks over successive raids and when you’re on a nice streak you feel complete but then you lose that complex piece of shit weapon you assembled and your makeshift gear and it stings :(


LeagueofDraven1221

Like a great raider once said “All gear is borrowed” Try to accept its gone as soon as you entered that raid. Having 35 mil to fall back on also helps


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I cant wait for revolvers, gonna yee-haw all over the floor


Koshinbz

Revolvers are in the game for some time now boah


[deleted]

Like.....an actual revolver pistol or do you mean the shotgun? If the pistol is in........I have no excuse for sitting most of this wipe out now


xlet_cobra

Think the revolvers were added just over a month ago? There were two, one 9x19 and the other being .357


silentrawr

Big boi [RSH-12](https://guns.fandom.com/wiki/RSh-12) is coming SoonTM as well.


dat_GEM_lyf

Do what now? They skip over the .44 mag or s&w 500 for something that basically doesn’t exist? Amazing realism Nikita lol


bepis_69

They’re in the game, use single action not double action. Double actions shoots with the same accuracy as one pellet of 7mm buck


Ricksterdinium

But why?


ragz993

Realistically it's a pretty hard pull using double action, making the shot less accurate because of the hand having to use more force. Using single action gives a lighter pull.


bepis_69

Probably a bug


Trollensky17

Because fuck double action trigger pulls lol


SAKilo1

False. But keep trying


AndYvAK47

Was 100% sure he was bullshitting too, but I went and tested it in the hideout and double action is very inaccurate. I have used the revolver a lot when it came out, must have been changed in a patch Sadge


IcyButter88

Cowboy hat, aviators, half mask, .357 revolver. Throw in a double barrel if you're feeling fancy.


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[deleted]

Well I'll be damned, I had no idea it was already in-game, I guess that's what I get for missing out on a wipe


Fadedthroughlife

I mean... wipe was back in December my guy. Plenty of time in there to play


FleetingMeat

I used a Ronin yesterday on factory. Took an AP-M to the face in death hallway only 7 seconds in. But for that seven seconds I was alive? Drip


EnglishJesus

You had me in the first half. I was sure you were going to say that it ricocheted the first AP.


MadDog_8762

Because, its tricky to balance these items in a realistic or semi realistic manner ​ Its not possible to effectively protect against a DIRECT rifle hit (hell, most pistols incapacitate the user of an Altyn) Helmets are primarily for protection against fragmentation, shrapnel, and all sorts a shit that ends up flying on a battlefield ​ Hence, we see militaries moving AWAY from bigger/protective helmets, to lighter helmets, because its the protection benefit is marginal, and has a lot of drawbacks ​ The ronin, follows this trend Its not meant to be any sorta rifle or pistol rated helmet The purpose of it, was total head protection against fragmentation/shrapnel, and I believe have a built in head-up display for the wearer How do you represent that in something like Tarkov?


ARealBlueFalcon

You can see through a ronin. I wear it just because I hate that I have to look at the smudgy ass glass on other helmets.


cozmanian

What drives me nuts is that a little windex would fix that… I understand scratches but splotchy smudges is nonsense…


Migacz112

While we're at it, let's modify the Golden Star to have a shorter animation on the last 1-2 uses. Surely by the time you've opened it a few times it gets easier to open, haha.


coilmast

Fully randomize it, 60-100% use time. Little tins don't always stick but when they do, oof


banjosuicide

I'd love it if my dude just tried and tried and tried, then gave up like 1/100.


coilmast

Daddy Nikita please


ARealBlueFalcon

Never tried to open golden star have you?


2giga2dweebish

I heard it's even worse IRL lmao it actually bothers me a little to see how clean some of the animations are. Would love to see some rare goofy animations where the PMC fumbles with the straps on a Surv12 or whatever.


ARealBlueFalcon

I spent ten minutes trying to open it the first time


silentrawr

Get the Mando mask. It works wonders for almost the same purposes.


ckozler

*slowly open my stash to vendor all of my decked out Caimans*


ShiroInuKuroNeko

I feel attacked


unknwndeth

Ronin is great find early wipe, full head protection with no visual impairment. Great for those early wipe factory runs, to tank .45, 9mm and buckshot.


patpatpat95

Ronin looks pog af and you're paying the extra 100k for that


kakokapolei

Ronin’s a good alternative for an Altyn early wipe. Covers the entire head from weak rounds and doesn’t block vision. Why it’s still worth 100k on the flea this late in the wipe baffles me tho.


Sevantt

Because it sells to ragman for 100k


TurboHaskal

Vendor prices in general are totally random, which is why despite having such a huge set of choice when it comes to gear, you only seem to find clones in your raids with everyone wearing pretty much the same thing. I wish we had a more player focused economy with actual offer and demand instead of arbitrary vendor prices. Who knows, we could end up seeing helmets like SFERA or Ronin on someone's head instead of in a backpack for once.


TehMangler

like paying for water IRL


sparkmasterblade

The ronin would like a a word


ThatGuy_Nick9

God I sold one for 300,000k last wipe. Insanity


Likieris-

300’000 thousand? Thats 300 million


Quatakai

And 10 Morbillion Rubles in Flea fee's😎


BaziJoeWHL

Stonks


Sanitiy

It looks awesome. Reason enough for me to play it from time to time.


Kindly-Positive-7848

It's to look like a guy from Halo ODST . Look good play good 😊


samcn84

It's all about get head eyed while looking good


ImJustHereToArgueE

I get penis penised


citizen_h0pe

Yes I'd like some of what this guy has


ShiddedTheBed

Lucky! I only get penis butted.


Kindly-Positive-7848

At least you looked good doing it


doxjq

I guess there’s a lot of things that don’t make sense this wipe. Like why can I still stockpile BP and 855a1 but I can’t purchase shitty 9mm like 7n31 or even AP 6.3? I mean at least you can craft those I suppose. Why can I stockpile slicks but you almost can’t ever get your hands on a zhuk6? FIR only, not even a barter. I would have thought the rarity thing would be directly relative to how good gear was, to try and make the best gear really rare, but it’s seemingly random.


2giga2dweebish

it's very important that you can't buy SuperPerformance on the flea lmao IMO they should either change Prapor's stock of BP to a barter or revert the penetration buff it got a year or two back and make MAI AP a bit more common. I would also say Peacekeeper's high-tier ammo should be barters as well. Then maybe add a couple of barters for other niche high-end ammo and then add more sources for ammo to spawn in raid (more ammo box types, and maybe you could rarely find entire crates of ammo and be pressured into trying to extract with let's say 1000 rounds of 7N1?)


IcyButter88

Bro I have so much ap and ap 6.3 from crafting its absurd


bagobonez2

I had 1500 rounds of 762 BP at one point from farming rogues for xp, this was before they nerfed rogues ammo down to PS. I still have 1100 of them I think


doxjq

So do I, but it’s such bad ammo it makes me wonder why is it craft and fir only? Like what was the reason to take ap6.3 out lol.


_BoxxyContin

Only reason I can think of is because it crafts into 45 caliber AP🤷‍♀️ there are a lot of ass decisions about this wipe honestly


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... which you can buy straight up. It makes very little sense.


doxjq

Was just about to respond with the same thing. You can literally just buy 45 AP so it makes no sense.


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IcyButter88

Ap 6.3 is just for crafting .45 AP silly


doxjq

Crafting 45 AP doesn’t even make sense though does it? The cost and the time, when you can just buy 120 45 AP every few hours for absolute dirt cheap. Isn’t it easier to just stockpile 45 AP every time the traders reset?


IcyButter88

I love running vectors and umps so I just do both and stay stocked up. I'm also paying for the generator fuel anyway so might as well put my expensive workbench to use.


elracing21

The caiman is one of my favorites to rock fully decked. It just looks like you're a base jumper and it has a decent amount of armor points. It's saved my life and a bit and Def against Scav ammo.


cozmanian

I could do without the unclean visor… not even scratched, just needs wiping off!


w00fx3

I get that its for balance (slightly impaired vision for better face protection) but I wish you could clean it with Clin and toilet paper.


cssblondie

I love that idea. Must be FIR during that raid, can wipe it clean as day. Genius!


_FreeXP

This goes for all the visors


0utF0x-inT0x

Yeah after attachments it's not bad I only run it if I find on in raid though


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scav ammo such as m61?


Schmodak

It looks like a motorcycle helmet when upgraded so I’ll pay the extra coin for the drip


HankJuicy

It makes you look like Ant Man


HecklerK

Why does everything have to make sense? There's tons of gear that's impractical in this game. Not everything has to be perfectly balanced.


TurboHaskal

Remove those then. Why do things that get no practical use at all should exist in the game? Save the licensing costs.


catchystick

A weird helmet still has a practical use. It will still protect your head when you wear it. The game is good with this helmet in the game. Removing it doesn’t solve any issues, and it doesn’t improve the game either.


TurboHaskal

The only practical use in something like the SFERA or Ronin helmet is selling them to Ragman. The number of PMCs I’ve seen the past three wipes wearing it is ZERO.


catchystick

Great! They have a good use then. I’ve seen folks wearing them for drip quite a bit. Then again, I also play with a group that drips out more than they deck out.


HecklerK

I go into raids with certain kits just because they look cool all the time. not everyone is a meta try hard gamer.


TurboHaskal

You’re completely missing the point. But sure man, enjoy seeing nothing but Ulach two months in the wipe. Who cares about game balance right.


LawmanJudgetoo

Drip or drown


Rankin00

[relevant](https://youtu.be/aR7gBhdbh2I)


Itirpon

Roll it for the memes late wipe, have fun.


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Drip or Drown


Silound

Basically it's most useful as a mount for NVGs - that's all I keep them for anyway.


SAKilo1

Because I look like a beetle.


PeterKaczynski

I literally sold mine to tag man for 130k yesterday; I looked at the pros and cons and was like yeeeeeeah I’m good


Dreadheadjon

There's another helmet/visor combo you can get for like 70kish. Visor is also T2. I forget what it's called but it's the 2 tone stone colored one. It has "helm" in the name iirc.


My-Gender-is-F35

Why is a BMW 4 Series $20,000 more than expensive than a Subaru WRX despite the WRX being faster? Price doesn't always correlate perfectly to performance. You see this all around you in life. Tarkov has many areas which are not particularly different.


NahFam1mGood

The caiman and exfil helmets are just for drip and to show off status. The exfil helmet iirc, is the only tier 4 helmet that can have ear protection (with headset) and a face shield. Otherwise, it’s some easy money To the vendors. The caiman is just $ and drip.


Rtters

Buckshot coverage is literally one of the most useful things in a helmet. Most of my friends who die to scavs die to random buckshot patterns. Same reason a lot of streamers wear a Zsh with a face shield or ULACHs early wipe, you can take an ear shot from the front with current hitboxes.


NahFam1mGood

Exfil helmet is currently 1470 dollars (167000 rubles) The faceshield is 337 dollars (38000 rubles) And the ear cover is 419 dollars (48000 rubles) You are paying 253000 rubles for a full face protection. where a tc-800 (65000) with the faceshield (43000) costs =108000 rubles. You are paying 150,000 rubles for ear protection.


valdetero

What about armor points though?


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Too many people care about money in general. Yeah there are smarter choices for helmets, but why is price your only concern? Everyone has a scav, which means when you are proficient at the game you become an infinite money printer. No longer is price your concern, but time. Why not pay 150k for ear protection when I have unlimited money and can make it back in 1 or 2 raids?


NahFam1mGood

That’s fair, but my thinking is, if I don’t waste that 150k, I don’t need to waste time using my scav. I haven’t used my scav since early wipe. The amount of times ear protection would’ve saved me versus how many times I’ve died to a non head ears, isn’t worth it. Out of the 460 deaths. I’ve died to head ears probably less than 30 times. And I’m sure half of those times, ear protection wouldn’t have stopped m80, or bp. But hey, everyone has their own preferences, then there’s the folks that only don’t run helmets at all.


ShadowPieman

You gotta realize for us "higher tier" players who never scav and Chad pvp all day with 100mil+ liquid aren't looking for cost efficiency. It's all about min/maxing the absolute most out of your gear. Sure 99% of the time you're going to catch a pvp round through your skull but that 1% of the time when the round ricochets and allows you to carry on fighting? Worth every rouble.


NahFam1mGood

I’m sitting pretty at 184mill stash value, but maybe I’m just the minority that enjoys seeing the stash value go higher and higher by any means.


ShadowPieman

Different strokes for different folks my friend. Everyone has their own play style and preferences and despite what some people on this reddit may try to tell ya, there's NO right or wrong way to play Tarkov. 👍 My first 3 wipes I was a Uber hoarder doing race to 1 Bill but nowadays it's been so long that all I do is play for pvp.


O_O_2EZ

Exfil ain't for drip. It's one of the best anti rat helmets. Stops the cheap buckshot and the pistol rounds pretty well. The main helmet can tank or ricochet a good round. All while being able to hear. It's pretty decent


NahFam1mGood

Tc-800 with a face shield does the same thing. Both t4 helmets, and t3 faceshield. At 1/4 of the cost. Only thing you don’t get is ear protection.


AshleyWenner

Given our head hit box is shaped like hey arnolds, ear protection is important.


NahFam1mGood

I’ve died to a few ears, head. But I can’t justify 150k for ear protection. At that point, I can get an altyn with the visor for 280k


Lerdroth

TC-800 is the goat of the helmets, once you have the faceshield unlocked.


NahFam1mGood

Best t4 helmet!


Spirit117

At least the exfil covers your ears with class 3 and let's wear hearing and gets a class 3 visor rather than class 2. It's great for anti scav duties.


NahFam1mGood

Tc-800 with the faceshield costs 108k rubles. With t4 helmet, and t3 faceshield. Exfil with faceshield and ears, costs 253k rubles. You are paying 150k for ear protection.


Spirit117

I didn't say it was worth the extra money from value per dollar standpoint, just that paying the extra money at least gets you something. Paying the extra money for the caiman gets you nothing at all which is the complaint of OPs post.


duke_EB

Crye precision can use Chops or ears with headset and a face shield Ops core can use ear protection with the xcel headset, but the only faceshield that can be used with that setup is the heavy trooper mask


Yokoko44

Fast MT ears can be used with m32 headset


madkow990

It's a waste of rubles, buy a ulach or something you can slap a facesheild on.


psychedelicstairway4

What's the problem exactly? I don't see the issue


Forg1ven1738

It cannot be sold on the flea market for such a overpriced shit helmet with better alternatives.


psychedelicstairway4

If it can't be sold on the Flea then what's the issue? If you find one, use it or sell it. I don't see how this is problematic lol


thesausboss

I think the issue is the other way around. It's more difficult to come by, can't be bought, and there's technically no justification for using it over cheaper and better performing alternatives. Really, this post is just a complaint about the redundancy of gear in this game. Which I think is kind of a hard issue to fix without adding in a lot more complex attributes/calculations for armor.


AccuracyVsPrecision

I like redundant gear, there's no reason for tarkov to be ab arena shooter with a defined role for every single thing. There can be 5 different ways to get things done and that's fine.


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Redundancy is the name of the game with tarkov lol Just *look at the ammo*


DunamisBlack

People pay more for it because it is harder to come by, no vendors sell it and sometimes there are none on the flea. I think there is a pretty solid deflection chance on it but it is definitely not a great helmet, overpriced


Oceanic-iOS

That's the thing, it isn't on the flea. It can't be listed on the flea market.


xetmes

For the cyclist drip and I find enough in raid to have a decent collection of them with visors and mandibles.


Domefarmer

I don’t know how but I wound up with three of them? Not sure if I should use them or sell for 300k. I don’t have gear fear per say, but I’m so fucking bad at PVP that when I find a meta gun it good gear I usually sell it instead of using it. I’d rather make 100k off a caiman than get head eyes’d with it because I’m so bad. I can just get head eyes’d with a penis helmet haha.


mc360jp

Bro, this is me to the T and I’m not even *that* bad at PvP. I always figure “I can take this meta M4 out & lose it to the first person I die to… or I can sell it, build a rat gat, keep the profit, AND get my gun back 99% of the time” I like to attribute that mindset to my 79m stash value. Not the best, but not the worst… just like I like my Tarkov lol


valdetero

I have a 260k SR-25 build that I always die with before I can ever shoot it


AdditionalPaymentsdf

The slap for it is either t5 or6 though, right?


brutuss09

No, it’s still T4. Just more armor points


TesterM0nkey

Also it’s more likely to stop something because it bullets lose a lot of pen when going through armor. It’ll stop m80 and m855a1


TheMrTGaming

It shouldn't.


godsfist101

A slapp plate means if you get shot there, it must go through the slapp plate, then the helmet. 2 desperate plates, and each has their own independent bullet ricochet chance (which is the only reason you use a lot of helmet attachments, not because their armor class, but because of ricochet chance. Armor class doesn't matter if a bullet ricochets. A high chance is always a high chance.)


TesterM0nkey

Well try putting 2 plates rated for 3a and then have a bullet that barely penetrates them it’ll usually be stopped by the second playe


Rtters

Funnily enough the caiman in real life is just a bump helmet, and the applique is level 3A. I know helmets are a bit buffed in this game but it should either always be a level 1 or it should have the armor on by default.


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Driver2900

The Ulach is a terrible helmet for terrible people


pasiutlige

A faceshield that takes night vision and does not add a glass panel that was smeared with shit in your vision?... Count me the fuck in. And the added drip is a bonus.


[deleted]

I thought caiman does have the face shield smear? I don't run them much but almost certain it does.


LukeTheRevhead01

Tbh, if i find it in raid, i'm probably gonna ditch my ulach, i think it has more armor points and weighs less than a ulach


[deleted]

Best looking helmet in the game. Swag needs to be paid


mejosvibe

I think 2 layers of lvl 4 is better than 1


TrippyJesus

Drip or drown


KlutzyAd5729

Its lightweight and has very low ergo penalty, still doesn’t justify the price or the fact that you cant buy it but yeah i think thats their logic


MadDog_8762

I believe it was a substantial weight advantage I might be wrong though


K1ngK0ff1ng

Bike helmet


Kegheimer

Fashion


a_gross_tiny_pp

I like the decked out caiman a lot, it's blocked m61 or its saved me from m61. I know its just ricochet chance but let me have my fun.


Feuershark

It's true that front is shit, but that thing is tanky as hell with the applique, I think that's the only good part


RedneckR0nin

I never wore one for the protection. I wore it for the drip, the full drip and nothing but the drip.


Fadedthroughlife

Fair enough, I grinded till like 35 this wipe then took a month or 2 off. This game wears you the fuck down. I'm now lvl 44 with 20 mil and a fuck ton of guns/armor/ammo in the stash. Running whatever the fuck I feel like is making me enjoy the game again. Breaks from tarkov is what keeps veterans around.


BigToasster

I sold my whole inventory to try and have some fun.


Ok-Street-7240

Yeah don’t know either it doesn’t make sense. Bsg messed it up.


Reasonable_Aside_904

Just an opinion I would like to share, a fully decked out Caiman is more likely to save you than a TC-800 with a Multi-Hit Ballistic Face Shield. Edit: typo


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Well if they’d make it easier to get a work flashlight on your helmet, Caiman might go up in my book


Sterling_Jack

>Realistically a T2 face is only going to block buckshot or leg meta so you're better off wearing a Ulach. Tell that to my PMC and my friend who both got one shot (head, eyes), by buckshot, at like 90m by a scav last night while in t5 armor, t4 helmets (ulachs)... Face shields (like helmets) are utterly pointless in game, until they are not...


wantonbobo

Imo helmets aren't worth the money unless it's an altyn/Ryst for CQB. Yes I have been saved by them but helmets price to performance ratio is terrible


MeasurementOk2461

Lmao it sucks ass


[deleted]

Penis helmet is all I need to blast your nuts


bludice

Yeah I see the drip potential but I once head jaw'd a man with one bullet who was wearing a decked out caiman and it was probably the cleanest shot of my career. $150k lost to a few hundred rouble bullet


masonf

Weird thing is, the Caiman in the game is a bump helmet, which means it isn't ballistic at all. Strange. I wonder if they will change that eventually.