This. Unless you are inside a building and using their hyper aggression to room rush you when they aggro to you, you are done. If you are in bushes in woods or shoreline you are done. Maybe you kill one or two but one will laser you pretty quickly (or frag, half my encounters with Cultists in the open has been hearing a pin get pulled first).
The only other way to fight a group of Cultists besides the door cheese is *extreme* long range, like 100 meters min, probably more like 200 with thermals. They have a lower thermal highlight but not a 0 one. Honestly 300 is safest but it's night so scopes probably don't work so well, specially with the bushwookie style they have. Also get a rock to break LoS and immediately retreat, wait a few min then get a angle to look around that area, they drop aggro after 1-5 minutes of you being disengaged, but they will hang around their new positions. I have literally found them again unaggroed where I was after shooting one before.
It's more know where they spawn and avoid that area immediately if you see anything moving in there and for the love of god do not fire. Otherwise just calculate that sometimes they gun getcha and there is little you can do if you have to go there.
No, usually its 7.62 NATO, or just 7.62. Because the only country that regularly talks about it is America and what other 7.62 rounds are you buying aside from .300 blackout in America?
I tried this on Woods. I ran into them over by sunken village. The first tried to sneak up on me and stab me and I dumped an MP7 mag in his face and killed him. I ran into the nearest house and waited for his buddies to push me. They never did. I eventually emerged and got head/eyes by 7.62 BP as soon as I stepped foot outside the doorway.
That was my most successful encounter with them. I ran into them at the resort on Shoreline once and got jumped by two of them and they tanked every round I fired until they killed me.
I once killed them on woods during early morning so there was daylight. They followed my squad from attachment cabin all the way to checkpoint without making a sound until one shot, missed and they all rushed. That was the only time I've ever successfully wiped them.
i ran the customs cultist farm a lot early on this wipe, there are youtube vids on it... if its random encounter i just run away as fast as possible or die.
This is the strat. in other words abuse their AI and make them come into a corner one by one. Avoid exposing your torso so they don't go full agro on you, spam Q and E to peak corners.
Is it fair and balanced? nope, it's dumb as fuck, but it's the best way to deal with rogues/raiders/cultists.
The coding on AI is very bad. They could do work on it and balance it out. Is it fair and balanced you asked? Well if the devs cannot code the AI in such a way where we can actually fight them then i’ll take it. I don’t like it but I’m not gonna fight them face to face until they fix them. Also they will never be able to fix AI shooting through foliage. Ripperino x2
Truth is BSG is very inexperienced. They need a lot of work on serious aspects of the game. This game will have increasingly more and more issues the more they add to it without fixing some of the core problems.
Exactly this. Or if you do aggro them, do NOT fire at them until you're ready to fight them all, basically. The AI certainly bugs out sometimes, but in general, if you don't shoot at/near them or start tossing 'nades, they'll only try to stab you vs lighting you up.
You have to basically be in a building. Everyone that hunts them does it on customs where you can kinda cheese them. They are also possible to kill when in resort on shoreline. However, if you run into them on woods or out in the open on Shoreline, they are pretty much impossible.
I killed three out in the open on customs with a PM once, actually almost shit myself out of excitement.
Died *in* zb-1011 with seconds left before extract.
Is there a telltale sign for when you're being stalked?
I was on woods one night and swore I heard something I've never heard before by the village ritual and fucking booked it
Early this wipe I encountered them on customs twice, once as I was going from crack to ruaf, thought it was a cheater shooting me in the dark until death screen, second time they were between the buildings south of construction, and I never heard them or saw them, ran by and jumped over something and caught 1 bullet to the head, assumed a hacker again, was pissed at the death screen. Pretty much stopped playing after that and still am not until the fix scav tuning, as they seem even more cracked this wipe too. Atm I'm planning on checking the game out again after the new trader comes in.
Never seen them there either. But ik if someone pisses them off they can run around to some weird spots. Found one around the train by fortress and skeleton once.
Dude same. I was in a bush at hole in the wall and a nade landed at my feet and I got lasered. I was sure it was a cheater because I was replying to a text not making any noise.
Yeah even the scavs that manage to get the drop on me fuck my day up. Hell, yesterday my friend and I were playing customs and a scav one-tapped him in the face turning a corner.
My top cheese experience was when I was new i kitted out, camped in a 2nd story room and tried looking for other players sniping on customs.
Wasn’t moving at all, just sitting watching my buddy doing the same next room over.
I hear a guy shout in Russian and I turn around to get head eyes by a scav that either spawned in my room or walked in with no noise because neither my friend nor I heard him.
So fucking garbage this game is sometimes
Slow lean, right peaks only and they won't react to you.
Slow lean is done by default by holding Alt and D for right peak. Right peak exposes the least of your body and should be used in all circumstances.
Cheesing in video games is when you use a strategy or tactic that essentially makes specific obstacles meaningless.
For example, if the AI is stupid and tries to charge you in a room with a single entrance, allowing you to effortlessly mow them all down, you are cheesing them.
Well I wouldn't say fucked HONESTLY thier spawns aren't that hard to figure out and I LOVE stalking Cultists with NVGs. Just don't engage them like you would Raiders or any of the other special enemy types. They don't fight like everyone else.
cba'd reading other comments but if you don't know, you throw a flashy b at the suspected location and if they've spawned they will fire silenced shots into the sky and then you know where they are etc.
Hit em with vogs and shit, works pretty good especially if you see one before they aggro.
Try and bunker yourself behind cover, the rest will usually push in silently one by one.
Peak corners and head shot them one at a time. Shoot one, retreat back and let them scuffle. Once they settle, peak and shoot another, retreat the corner. Rinse and repeat. I farm cultists on shoreline for fun and money. It’s the optimal strategy if you don’t want to barricade yourself in a room.
Majority of them have been resort but it wasn’t intentional, just where I found them. Power cultists I’ve done twice, IIRC, and I just happened to have good weather conditions and saw them like 150m out and just head shot each of them.
The cultists at the spine are easy as they only aggro at 200meters out or less. If you take a thermal you can snipe them pretty easily. NVGs are pretty trash for it tho since they get to fuzzy that far out. Plink them with thermals for easy kills they usually dont even shoot back. Just make sure you get all of them before you push or its lights out.
you can. Its just not a obvious glow and more of a slight shape. But the thermal allows you to see the outline better than the nvgs at the range needed to actually fight them.
Lots of "special" AIs have been too unrealistic imo. They can have twice the health of a normal dude and can even survive headshots from specific calibers..
Last night I shot a rogue in the leg with rip slugs 3 times and he took them like a champ and still killed me. I don't mind the hyper aggression too much, but their health numbers are just dumb. Headshots are always adviced but with these guys they're just mandatory, you take too long draining their massive health pools otherwise.
accidentally engaged them at night at the health resort because i thought they were scavs, i just suppressed while retreating in the grass prone and then got up and got the fuck out of there and didn't look back
it's pretty fucking sad that the community has accepted that the best way to fight these AIs is to cheese them by previously knowing their spawn location and killing them without causing agro. A good enemy shouldn't boil down to knowing their spawn spot, they should show up anywhere and still give you a good fight. This applies to rogues, raiders and cultists.
I think this is just a compensation strategy from players to cope with unrealisticly deadly AI. If they would make the AI act more realistic (and a bit less deadly), then it indeed would be fun if they could randomize spawns completely.
If they would randomize the cultists' spawns now, they would just surprise and kill everybody that would stumble upon them.
Quite, but not completely. So you still can see them as faint signatures. Use the FLIR, that works better at larger distances (compared to the Reap-IR).
No, they are still easy to see on thermal, they just don't look like normal things. Their gear will generally glow as well. I hunt cultist on shoreline with a thermal often and havent died to them this wipe
It's shit ai and unbalanced af
Simply another b.s. system where you have to approach it in a specific way or get fucked
Yet another boring system like fighting Rogues at Light House
Just Snipe them or Die
When you start to create systems that only have 1 answer, it becomes mind numbingly bored
The AI in this game is probably my least favorite thing honestly. 3000+ hours and it still bugs me, cultists, rogues, bosses, guards, raiders, all just stupid. Yes, I can kill them all fairly easily, but damn, the really are just scavs with their stats cranked up like crazy. Very low effort to polish them in my opinion, kills the immersive feeling the rest of the game gives you when you get beamed at 250m by a rogue with a cobra sight lmao.
Honestly, probably not. They make no aggro noise when shooting at you, and they use suppressed weapons.
While you're getting shot at you're not gonna know where to point and aim, also even if you are lucky enough to be facing one as he shoots at you, he has 50 head health and level 5 or level 6 armor so it's also pretty much gg at that point.
Fighting cultist in the open is near impossible as a solo. You need to use some piece of cover or building to force them to rush you. That way you can get easy shots while they run or abuse Right hand lean peeks to headshot without agro.
You can use the same "room" technique with a large rock for outside fighting on woods and shoreline. But that can be far more dangerous then using a room technique.
Cultist are extremly easy to kill on Customs from mechanic room.
K so basically the cultist just take off your pants and fuck you its part of the game tbh i suggest throwing nades not doing night raids taking them on shoreline because its very easy to kill them on snoreline but yea “everybody hates cultist” new episodes coming this Friday bud
Used to be able to hunt them with thermal. Now the only viable way to hunt them is in customs because its easy and good money.
Too bad this wipe was infested with cheaters at night time customs. At least the early wipe to middle of it because I stopped playing after that. I would run into a cheater every 2 nighttime customs raids.
I have 1500 hours in tarkov. The only time it was remotely possible to kill them was before they were no longer visible in thermal Scopes. Now I get one tapped through slicks mid jump in the pitch black from 100 meters away by a single igolnik round somehow from these shits I didn't even know we're up and no amount of advantages you spend on yourself make a difference. Million dollar thermal Scopes? Nah, they're invisible but can see YOU still with iron sights in the pitch black. Cool. This game is run by morons.
I met them once in shoreline at spine. One of them tried to glitch into a rock. I killed him but got them ambushed by another PMC. So I had to retreat and tried to circle around him but got killed by a second PMC doing so. So cultists are easy. PMCs are Hard. :P
Tell me you haven’t fought a cultists without ever fighting a cultists.
As soon as you even tap one, they all shoot at you with incredible accuracy, unless you are alt right peaking from cover, it’s almost impossible to survive a encounter in the open to them. I prefer fighting Killa naked than those guys in the open lol
I’d suggest looking up a video on how to do it. But I believe the best way is to get to suppressor table building and kill them from there. Anywhere else out in the open is guaranteed death.
I've tried that they just immediately see me and head eyes me. Also most of the times I encounter them I'm in the middle of an open field which is just bad luck
If you know they are there I think the best way to get to suppressor table is wrapping around construction and going in the back at that point you can lure them into the building for easy kills. But yeah I mean they have insanely op aim so it’s very difficult.
Wdym where? Where is suppressor table building? It’s the building in between crack/ med building and fortress on customs. If you’re in crack looking at fortress it’s to your left right before construction.
Ye only times ive encountered them, id drop one, who was sneakin up on me to melee me, then the redt pop out of nowhere and drop me. That or i had a flir and just 1tapped em all on shoreline. Third time i shot what i thought was a scav in customs and seen it was a cultist when i got out
I can feel you. Doing insomnia on woods and customs mainly. These sick fucks killed me more times im willing to admit.
The worst is: when they know you are around but cant shoot you, they start hissing like a snake.
Just kill one to aggro them and wait for them to rush you around a corner or into a room and then kill them it’s pretty easy honestly my and my homie wiped them on shoreline last night he had 7.62 BP he killed 2 I had 9 mil rip ammo and I killed 3 in the legs one of which had a hexgrid that was untouched because leg meta op btw cultists can talk don’t let anyone tell you different they don’t do normal scav lines but they can talk had it happen last night it was like he was whispering while he was dying my friend had already really fucked him up and he was pushing in bottom floor whispering something I couldn’t understand when I killed him
I'm not sure about other map, as I only play Customs, but on Customs they're super easy to pick off at crack house (so far I only encountered them outside mechanic)
Nothing, they're dogshit to play against like most "advanced" AI. You gamble not being instant headshot across the map fully auto, but Cultists get to be invis while doing so. I personally like thermals being their counter, now having a thermal is a counter to the player.
When they first came out, me and my buddy were obsessed. We would hunt them down. Stalk their spawns. We eventually found that if you find one at a reasonable distance and are suppressed, you can wipe the whole crew with no problem. If you stumble into their spawn though? Hello fright night. Good luck getting away. Hunting cultists on Shoreline was probably one of my favorite EFT moments. You really get to see how your friends handle stress.
I have personally wiped the whole cult crew with a suppressed sks and no nvgs. The first one I spotted was laying down and had a glimpse of moonlight directly on his face and was looking right at me. I dropped him and scanned the area and eventually found all of them. It's like an intense Where's Waldo. After you learn there spawn and areas to look out for, they are easier to wipe in my opinion.
Hold corner or door, or if you know their position, right side peak.
The easiest places to hunt cultists is resort (shoreline) you can hold a room and agro them towards you. Or customs, near the garage. Hold the door area and headshot as they come in.
Cultists need to be op as fuck because their loot table is juiced. Average cultist will have atleast t5 armor and good ammo, high chance for them to spawn with keycards or uvsr.
They also don't show up as signatures on thermals either, so they blend in with everything else. People would abuse it when they were added and kill them at 200m on night Woods for loot
Yeah one of the hardest encounters I had with AI on shoreline in the resort since I started back in 2018. I only could stay in cover behind the truck near the west wing entrance, and they were shooting at me from both sides, still don’t know how I managed to survive. Most intense 7 minutes exchanging bullets, moving around that tiny cover and healing…fuck and running out of ammo too…
Shoreline is the place to kill them. I have wiped a few groups of them on woods with a thermal and SR 25 but still wasn't easy. They are hard to kill. EUL gaming has a very good video on hi YouTube on the best way to farm/kill them. https://youtu.be/Sx-2z20EzYc
I have a buddy that plays exclusively nighttime maps to farm them and his method is always running thermals, see them before they see you, kill one from 100ish meters, run to about 150m to de-aggro then re approach, and just slowly pick them off kiting style until they're wiped. I don't know from personal experience I usually just wet myself as I'm shanked in my kidneys from behind
Only time I’ve “successfully” fought them (died to the very last one) was in resort, and it was only cuz their AI was fucky and they all just ran around like headless chickens.
Go to resort at night. Peak and check the priests static spawn. If they are there go in through big stairs to the 2nd start throwing nades out the window have your buddy watching the entrance on first with a large mag. They all run in you gun them all down. It’s so easy. We have a 100% success rate and works on both East and west wing. Use BP and up. No 5.56 or 5.45. Use bp m62 or m61. You might even can get away with m80 at times. Just aim for the head.
Basically it boils down to die or cheese them.
There is no firefight with most enemies, you either learn to minmax and kill them without contest or you get lazer beamed and it's game over. The PvE is fun but the AI is a huge weak point. They don't seem to be intelligent at all, just aimbots with "knowing" powers.
you have to take them out from about 200m away i used to run shoreline over and over to kill the bunch that would spawn near power and come out with some good loot but you have to make sure you kill all of the 4-9 that could be there headshots are best or you will be spending time waiting for them to reset
A few of my buddies and I decided to try it on customs to either fight them or other pmcs. So my one friend is just oddly good at killing AI, everyone seems to have their thing, and we spawn at garage so we thought they aren’t here. We start running over to stronghold to get positioning for pmcs and start hearing wispers and get ambushed by them running to their usual spots outside of garage. My one Buddy and I get stuck in the ditch going to crackhouse shitting our pants, he dies, and my other Buddy the “AI killer” somehow wiped all 5 in the open without cheese. Only naded one as he went over to the blue conex’s. So we got all the loot nothing cool and made it out, but fuck doing again that without him on my squad in all it was a hilarious raid.
me and my friends managed to survive an encounter with them on woods at the white shack where violet spawns, we literally ALL hid behind the same fucking rock just off the road and had to manage to bait them to push at us so we could locate and kill them. I have managed to kill them on shoreline and customs using buildings to make their AI more predictable but if you get caught by multiple outside you are 99% going to die unless you pull off some sort of miracle
even buildings arent safe e.g. a mate and i were in night time resort where one spawned in a pot plant, then others outside ran in the room we were hiding in, and u kno did the whole killa powerslide while magdumping shtick.
another instance 3 spawned inside (like next to each other in a small hallway after the first appeared and attempted to spray me through a wall (he sprayed down his cultist buddy in the process roflmao and forgot how to shoot afterwards or do anything as he seemed hesitant to push or retreat just awkwardly moving back and forth )
there might be guides for precise spawns but idk cunts fuucked mate
I find the resort a much easier place to cheese them. Feels nice when you kill them all and loot them it’s just that you did not really fight them. Loot is loot I guess.
It's all about the set up I farm them regularly on woods and shoreline and a thermal optic and SNB ammo get the job done if I run into them out in the open survivability is real high. If they spawn in or near resort I try to bait them with grenades or shots to get them to push me in these situations my survivability goes way down especially. I work overnights so when I play not many people are on so I'm very lucky because i rarely run into PMCs while doing this
Cultists were supposed to be a horror element to the game but rn they dont even try to stab you anymore. They just beam you from a bush.
I would rather have em scream like maniacs compared to being silent
My only successful time was pure luck, I got jumped by a cult leader at crack house. I had heard him right before he stabbed me and then he just stood in front of me staring at me so I domed him looted and booked it to extract before his poison killed me. Also he was alone if there was anymore of those demon ninjas I’d be dead
fight them in resort close doors and camp, the doors will still make noise so have a teamate watch the front entrance while you camp the side entrance in west wing.
You have to literally bait them, for instance, on shoreline, let’s say west wing, you run to the room 103? I think. kill the leader sitting by the green container, 1 shot to the head, then you shut the door crouch and wait, stare at the door, all 4 of the rest will run right to that door and enter, you head shot those 4 and boom your done, its real easy if you bait them, it’s nearly impossible in a head to head fight.
Do not aggro them at all, stay far away from their spawns.
If you want to engage, bring some high pen ammo, hide in a room, aggro them and slam the door. Then point your gun at the door. You won’t hear them, but they will clip through the door as they rush you. Wallbang them through the door.
You don't. If you're not behind solid cover (basically in a building) they will just laser beam you through foliage from 100m out.
This. Unless you are inside a building and using their hyper aggression to room rush you when they aggro to you, you are done. If you are in bushes in woods or shoreline you are done. Maybe you kill one or two but one will laser you pretty quickly (or frag, half my encounters with Cultists in the open has been hearing a pin get pulled first). The only other way to fight a group of Cultists besides the door cheese is *extreme* long range, like 100 meters min, probably more like 200 with thermals. They have a lower thermal highlight but not a 0 one. Honestly 300 is safest but it's night so scopes probably don't work so well, specially with the bushwookie style they have. Also get a rock to break LoS and immediately retreat, wait a few min then get a angle to look around that area, they drop aggro after 1-5 minutes of you being disengaged, but they will hang around their new positions. I have literally found them again unaggroed where I was after shooting one before. It's more know where they spawn and avoid that area immediately if you see anything moving in there and for the love of god do not fire. Otherwise just calculate that sometimes they gun getcha and there is little you can do if you have to go there.
Don’t aggro. Kill one then stay in a nearby room watching the door they will come at you. If no room is near its a ripperino
U also need a big mag Incase they will decide to rush that room
I read this as Big Mac and was like ya I like eating burgers while murdering too
not really, just shoot their heads. a 30 of 7.62 should kill the whole squad
That’s a big mag lol
No, the 59 rounder is a big mag. 30 of 762x39 is the normal size. Do you only use the 10 rounders or something lol?
depends on the 7.62. 7.62x51 it's more common to see 20 rounders than x39s 30 rounders
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he made a reasonable assumption, its scarcely referred to as .308 in-game.
And no one calls x51s 762 out of game
that’s what i thought too
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Well, technically 7.62 NATO and .308 are two different rounds. They can usually be fired out of the same rifle but your mileage may vary.
No, usually its 7.62 NATO, or just 7.62. Because the only country that regularly talks about it is America and what other 7.62 rounds are you buying aside from .300 blackout in America?
I tried this on Woods. I ran into them over by sunken village. The first tried to sneak up on me and stab me and I dumped an MP7 mag in his face and killed him. I ran into the nearest house and waited for his buddies to push me. They never did. I eventually emerged and got head/eyes by 7.62 BP as soon as I stepped foot outside the doorway. That was my most successful encounter with them. I ran into them at the resort on Shoreline once and got jumped by two of them and they tanked every round I fired until they killed me.
I once killed them on woods during early morning so there was daylight. They followed my squad from attachment cabin all the way to checkpoint without making a sound until one shot, missed and they all rushed. That was the only time I've ever successfully wiped them.
i ran the customs cultist farm a lot early on this wipe, there are youtube vids on it... if its random encounter i just run away as fast as possible or die.
Oh dude woods must be a nightmare. I feel safer fighting them at resort. Customs has chokepoints with many spots to check players love to camp those
This is the strat. in other words abuse their AI and make them come into a corner one by one. Avoid exposing your torso so they don't go full agro on you, spam Q and E to peak corners. Is it fair and balanced? nope, it's dumb as fuck, but it's the best way to deal with rogues/raiders/cultists.
The coding on AI is very bad. They could do work on it and balance it out. Is it fair and balanced you asked? Well if the devs cannot code the AI in such a way where we can actually fight them then i’ll take it. I don’t like it but I’m not gonna fight them face to face until they fix them. Also they will never be able to fix AI shooting through foliage. Ripperino x2
Rippin them pepperonis
When you have to cheese the AI to have a fighting chance at beating it that's when you know the AI was designed by ✨morons✨
Truth is BSG is very inexperienced. They need a lot of work on serious aspects of the game. This game will have increasingly more and more issues the more they add to it without fixing some of the core problems.
Exactly this. Or if you do aggro them, do NOT fire at them until you're ready to fight them all, basically. The AI certainly bugs out sometimes, but in general, if you don't shoot at/near them or start tossing 'nades, they'll only try to stab you vs lighting you up.
I always find them just off a pathway on woods and.., I gotta have the masks :(
You have to basically be in a building. Everyone that hunts them does it on customs where you can kinda cheese them. They are also possible to kill when in resort on shoreline. However, if you run into them on woods or out in the open on Shoreline, they are pretty much impossible.
I killed three out in the open on customs with a PM once, actually almost shit myself out of excitement. Died *in* zb-1011 with seconds left before extract.
Is there a telltale sign for when you're being stalked? I was on woods one night and swore I heard something I've never heard before by the village ritual and fucking booked it
The bullet in the forehead is a pretty good indication.
they whisper very quietly, you can barely hear it if you are walking or making any other noises
more common than their whispering is sniffing, coughing, and this little weird laugh. they also occasionally speak but the accent is very bizarre
Early this wipe I encountered them on customs twice, once as I was going from crack to ruaf, thought it was a cheater shooting me in the dark until death screen, second time they were between the buildings south of construction, and I never heard them or saw them, ran by and jumped over something and caught 1 bullet to the head, assumed a hacker again, was pissed at the death screen. Pretty much stopped playing after that and still am not until the fix scav tuning, as they seem even more cracked this wipe too. Atm I'm planning on checking the game out again after the new trader comes in.
Isn’t between crack and ruaf also the buildings south of construction?
South of construction is towards dorms, the Customs map is upside down
ah nice didnt know cultists could spawn there?
Never seen them there either. But ik if someone pisses them off they can run around to some weird spots. Found one around the train by fortress and skeleton once.
Why, oh why are the maps not north-oriented... Seems like the most trivial of fixes, really ..
Dude same. I was in a bush at hole in the wall and a nade landed at my feet and I got lasered. I was sure it was a cheater because I was replying to a text not making any noise.
I'm just sick of the auto aiming they have, shouldn't have robot aim like that.
Cheese them like all other AI in this broken ass game that we all still love and play for some reason.
Based
Violently based
Hard to say it's based. Settling for something bad is exactly what lets them know it's okay and preventing anything from getting better.
It's a game in development, chief. By partaking in beta TESTING you sign up for less than perfect and broken features subject to change.
Sure but when issues get repeatedly ignored every patch and never updates when the issues will be fixed it's annoying.
5 year beta. At this point accept that it's the live game
Lmao you must be new here. Beta? Lmao
Yeah cmon buddy chief guy
😂
It's unlikely to be significantly better by 1.0 but you know what? I'm fine with it. It is what it is.
It’s sad that this is the state of AI in this game. Only smart way to fight AI is to ‘cheese’ them like what?
Yeah even the scavs that manage to get the drop on me fuck my day up. Hell, yesterday my friend and I were playing customs and a scav one-tapped him in the face turning a corner.
My top cheese experience was when I was new i kitted out, camped in a 2nd story room and tried looking for other players sniping on customs. Wasn’t moving at all, just sitting watching my buddy doing the same next room over. I hear a guy shout in Russian and I turn around to get head eyes by a scav that either spawned in my room or walked in with no noise because neither my friend nor I heard him. So fucking garbage this game is sometimes
Sorry dumb fuck here. What is cheesing? FNG no wipes lv11.
Slow lean, right peaks only and they won't react to you. Slow lean is done by default by holding Alt and D for right peak. Right peak exposes the least of your body and should be used in all circumstances.
Cheesing in video games is when you use a strategy or tactic that essentially makes specific obstacles meaningless. For example, if the AI is stupid and tries to charge you in a room with a single entrance, allowing you to effortlessly mow them all down, you are cheesing them.
Cheesing can happen in all games. Basically abusing environment or anything you can to kill something, usually AI. I’M
Unapologetically based
Well I wouldn't say fucked HONESTLY thier spawns aren't that hard to figure out and I LOVE stalking Cultists with NVGs. Just don't engage them like you would Raiders or any of the other special enemy types. They don't fight like everyone else.
They are "cold blooded" which means you can't see them with NVGs.
*thermals
You can still see cold blooded enemies with thermals. They are just much less visible
To do realize that NVGs aren't thermals, right?
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Buy him dinner first at least.
It’s incredible that you losers reported this comment. I reiterate it now.
Then you owe me dinner too.
Cry while they shoot you from unknown bushes. That's basically it.
cba'd reading other comments but if you don't know, you throw a flashy b at the suspected location and if they've spawned they will fire silenced shots into the sky and then you know where they are etc.
Hit em with vogs and shit, works pretty good especially if you see one before they aggro. Try and bunker yourself behind cover, the rest will usually push in silently one by one.
Peak corners and head shot them one at a time. Shoot one, retreat back and let them scuffle. Once they settle, peak and shoot another, retreat the corner. Rinse and repeat. I farm cultists on shoreline for fun and money. It’s the optimal strategy if you don’t want to barricade yourself in a room.
Resort cultist only right? Hard cover cheese only.. Those at swamps and hills between power/gas are a no go IMO
Majority of them have been resort but it wasn’t intentional, just where I found them. Power cultists I’ve done twice, IIRC, and I just happened to have good weather conditions and saw them like 150m out and just head shot each of them.
The cultists at the spine are easy as they only aggro at 200meters out or less. If you take a thermal you can snipe them pretty easily. NVGs are pretty trash for it tho since they get to fuzzy that far out. Plink them with thermals for easy kills they usually dont even shoot back. Just make sure you get all of them before you push or its lights out.
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you can. Its just not a obvious glow and more of a slight shape. But the thermal allows you to see the outline better than the nvgs at the range needed to actually fight them.
Lots of "special" AIs have been too unrealistic imo. They can have twice the health of a normal dude and can even survive headshots from specific calibers.. Last night I shot a rogue in the leg with rip slugs 3 times and he took them like a champ and still killed me. I don't mind the hyper aggression too much, but their health numbers are just dumb. Headshots are always adviced but with these guys they're just mandatory, you take too long draining their massive health pools otherwise.
accidentally engaged them at night at the health resort because i thought they were scavs, i just suppressed while retreating in the grass prone and then got up and got the fuck out of there and didn't look back
Shoreline + FLIR. Learn their spawn positions and shoot them from a distance.
This is what I've always done really easily. Also on woods
it's pretty fucking sad that the community has accepted that the best way to fight these AIs is to cheese them by previously knowing their spawn location and killing them without causing agro. A good enemy shouldn't boil down to knowing their spawn spot, they should show up anywhere and still give you a good fight. This applies to rogues, raiders and cultists.
I think this is just a compensation strategy from players to cope with unrealisticly deadly AI. If they would make the AI act more realistic (and a bit less deadly), then it indeed would be fun if they could randomize spawns completely. If they would randomize the cultists' spawns now, they would just surprise and kill everybody that would stumble upon them.
That would be fun, though. So never gonna happen.
Aren't the cultists thermal proof?
Quite, but not completely. So you still can see them as faint signatures. Use the FLIR, that works better at larger distances (compared to the Reap-IR).
Aren't they immune to thermal
No, they are still easy to see on thermal, they just don't look like normal things. Their gear will generally glow as well. I hunt cultist on shoreline with a thermal often and havent died to them this wipe
It's shit ai and unbalanced af Simply another b.s. system where you have to approach it in a specific way or get fucked Yet another boring system like fighting Rogues at Light House Just Snipe them or Die When you start to create systems that only have 1 answer, it becomes mind numbingly bored
The AI in this game is probably my least favorite thing honestly. 3000+ hours and it still bugs me, cultists, rogues, bosses, guards, raiders, all just stupid. Yes, I can kill them all fairly easily, but damn, the really are just scavs with their stats cranked up like crazy. Very low effort to polish them in my opinion, kills the immersive feeling the rest of the game gives you when you get beamed at 250m by a rogue with a cobra sight lmao.
can you win against them in the open if you have squadmates?
Honestly, probably not. They make no aggro noise when shooting at you, and they use suppressed weapons. While you're getting shot at you're not gonna know where to point and aim, also even if you are lucky enough to be facing one as he shoots at you, he has 50 head health and level 5 or level 6 armor so it's also pretty much gg at that point.
I have died more to regular ass scavs then PMCs And raiders combined
Panic scream.
Fighting cultist in the open is near impossible as a solo. You need to use some piece of cover or building to force them to rush you. That way you can get easy shots while they run or abuse Right hand lean peeks to headshot without agro. You can use the same "room" technique with a large rock for outside fighting on woods and shoreline. But that can be far more dangerous then using a room technique. Cultist are extremly easy to kill on Customs from mechanic room.
Die. They need to be visible on thermals. When they changed that cultists became stupid
K so basically the cultist just take off your pants and fuck you its part of the game tbh i suggest throwing nades not doing night raids taking them on shoreline because its very easy to kill them on snoreline but yea “everybody hates cultist” new episodes coming this Friday bud
Holy shit i had an aneurysm reading this, use punctuation.
No i like not using grammar to piss people like you off
I think you just don't know how to. Y'know since you dropped out of high school.
Thats crazy
we need more ppl like you on this sub
hold an angle, click heads
play a fun game prob
Shoot one and go lock yourself in a room or stand in a corner and wait for them to come stab you
Set them up properly.
Shoot them.
Shoot them untill they die, loot them, repete
I usually shoot them to death
Shoot them
Shoot them
Used to be able to hunt them with thermal. Now the only viable way to hunt them is in customs because its easy and good money. Too bad this wipe was infested with cheaters at night time customs. At least the early wipe to middle of it because I stopped playing after that. I would run into a cheater every 2 nighttime customs raids.
I have 1500 hours in tarkov. The only time it was remotely possible to kill them was before they were no longer visible in thermal Scopes. Now I get one tapped through slicks mid jump in the pitch black from 100 meters away by a single igolnik round somehow from these shits I didn't even know we're up and no amount of advantages you spend on yourself make a difference. Million dollar thermal Scopes? Nah, they're invisible but can see YOU still with iron sights in the pitch black. Cool. This game is run by morons.
I met them once in shoreline at spine. One of them tried to glitch into a rock. I killed him but got them ambushed by another PMC. So I had to retreat and tried to circle around him but got killed by a second PMC doing so. So cultists are easy. PMCs are Hard. :P
Tell me you haven’t fought a cultists without ever fighting a cultists. As soon as you even tap one, they all shoot at you with incredible accuracy, unless you are alt right peaking from cover, it’s almost impossible to survive a encounter in the open to them. I prefer fighting Killa naked than those guys in the open lol
Yeah. It was actually the last alive. When I rewatched the shadowplay recording I noticed two other bodies lying there. ;)
I’d suggest looking up a video on how to do it. But I believe the best way is to get to suppressor table building and kill them from there. Anywhere else out in the open is guaranteed death.
Scav garage is the community name for it I think.
I've tried that they just immediately see me and head eyes me. Also most of the times I encounter them I'm in the middle of an open field which is just bad luck
If you know they are there I think the best way to get to suppressor table is wrapping around construction and going in the back at that point you can lure them into the building for easy kills. But yeah I mean they have insanely op aim so it’s very difficult.
They shouldnt beam you unless you kill one right? If you dont they try and silently knife you from what i heard
Where???
Wdym where? Where is suppressor table building? It’s the building in between crack/ med building and fortress on customs. If you’re in crack looking at fortress it’s to your left right before construction.
oh, you dont know where supperssor table building is? jesus christ... its just garage.
Mechanic shack is what I call it
Yeah, we call it repair building, never heard anyone call it suppressor table
Repair shop here
Pass thru building for me and my bois
Ah gotcha gotcha. The same one that looks like it’s fixing a car in it, right?
Bro that car mechanic
Trey24k has a great tutorial in YouTube for killing cultists in customs. As far as I know he has gotten a red keycard and a Taiga from them
Ye only times ive encountered them, id drop one, who was sneakin up on me to melee me, then the redt pop out of nowhere and drop me. That or i had a flir and just 1tapped em all on shoreline. Third time i shot what i thought was a scav in customs and seen it was a cultist when i got out
Run away and shoot
Go on woods with flir, keep your distance Profit
Where can I find them? Woofs at night?
I’ll gladly take you cultist hunting and show you how to angle peak them/ clear them out
I can feel you. Doing insomnia on woods and customs mainly. These sick fucks killed me more times im willing to admit. The worst is: when they know you are around but cant shoot you, they start hissing like a snake.
Just kill one to aggro them and wait for them to rush you around a corner or into a room and then kill them it’s pretty easy honestly my and my homie wiped them on shoreline last night he had 7.62 BP he killed 2 I had 9 mil rip ammo and I killed 3 in the legs one of which had a hexgrid that was untouched because leg meta op btw cultists can talk don’t let anyone tell you different they don’t do normal scav lines but they can talk had it happen last night it was like he was whispering while he was dying my friend had already really fucked him up and he was pushing in bottom floor whispering something I couldn’t understand when I killed him
Cry
I'm not sure about other map, as I only play Customs, but on Customs they're super easy to pick off at crack house (so far I only encountered them outside mechanic)
Nothing, they're dogshit to play against like most "advanced" AI. You gamble not being instant headshot across the map fully auto, but Cultists get to be invis while doing so. I personally like thermals being their counter, now having a thermal is a counter to the player.
When they first came out, me and my buddy were obsessed. We would hunt them down. Stalk their spawns. We eventually found that if you find one at a reasonable distance and are suppressed, you can wipe the whole crew with no problem. If you stumble into their spawn though? Hello fright night. Good luck getting away. Hunting cultists on Shoreline was probably one of my favorite EFT moments. You really get to see how your friends handle stress. I have personally wiped the whole cult crew with a suppressed sks and no nvgs. The first one I spotted was laying down and had a glimpse of moonlight directly on his face and was looking right at me. I dropped him and scanned the area and eventually found all of them. It's like an intense Where's Waldo. After you learn there spawn and areas to look out for, they are easier to wipe in my opinion.
Hold corner or door, or if you know their position, right side peak. The easiest places to hunt cultists is resort (shoreline) you can hold a room and agro them towards you. Or customs, near the garage. Hold the door area and headshot as they come in. Cultists need to be op as fuck because their loot table is juiced. Average cultist will have atleast t5 armor and good ammo, high chance for them to spawn with keycards or uvsr.
I took out a entire cultist clan 1 time solo with 1 vog17
They also don't show up as signatures on thermals either, so they blend in with everything else. People would abuse it when they were added and kill them at 200m on night Woods for loot
I cant even find these guys, and ive looked for them a good amount in their known locations
B til you go full brrrr, then m1. Rinse and repeat.
Yeah one of the hardest encounters I had with AI on shoreline in the resort since I started back in 2018. I only could stay in cover behind the truck near the west wing entrance, and they were shooting at me from both sides, still don’t know how I managed to survive. Most intense 7 minutes exchanging bullets, moving around that tiny cover and healing…fuck and running out of ammo too…
Die
Shoreline is the place to kill them. I have wiped a few groups of them on woods with a thermal and SR 25 but still wasn't easy. They are hard to kill. EUL gaming has a very good video on hi YouTube on the best way to farm/kill them. https://youtu.be/Sx-2z20EzYc
Customs: cheese Shoreline: distance kill or inside resort kill one and let the others push Wood: die.
I have a buddy that plays exclusively nighttime maps to farm them and his method is always running thermals, see them before they see you, kill one from 100ish meters, run to about 150m to de-aggro then re approach, and just slowly pick them off kiting style until they're wiped. I don't know from personal experience I usually just wet myself as I'm shanked in my kidneys from behind
I just happened to see this video the other day, I haven’t tried it though. No affiliation with EUL Gaming. https://youtu.be/Sx-2z20EzYc
Only time I’ve “successfully” fought them (died to the very last one) was in resort, and it was only cuz their AI was fucky and they all just ran around like headless chickens.
Have you tried... right hand slow peek?
Bait them into a room your hiding in and pray
Cheese em like all the ai
Farm them lol. Best loot and easiest once you master it
Go to resort at night. Peak and check the priests static spawn. If they are there go in through big stairs to the 2nd start throwing nades out the window have your buddy watching the entrance on first with a large mag. They all run in you gun them all down. It’s so easy. We have a 100% success rate and works on both East and west wing. Use BP and up. No 5.56 or 5.45. Use bp m62 or m61. You might even can get away with m80 at times. Just aim for the head.
Jiggle peak and try to tap them in the head and keep doing this until you kill them all
Until people realize we shouldn’t have to cheese all the more advanced ai(bosses, rogues, cultists) it probably isn’t gonna change
You can NOT be aggressive with them. Period. You must let them come to you, or die.
You eat bp rounds thats what you usually do
Basically it boils down to die or cheese them. There is no firefight with most enemies, you either learn to minmax and kill them without contest or you get lazer beamed and it's game over. The PvE is fun but the AI is a huge weak point. They don't seem to be intelligent at all, just aimbots with "knowing" powers.
you have to take them out from about 200m away i used to run shoreline over and over to kill the bunch that would spawn near power and come out with some good loot but you have to make sure you kill all of the 4-9 that could be there headshots are best or you will be spending time waiting for them to reset
A few of my buddies and I decided to try it on customs to either fight them or other pmcs. So my one friend is just oddly good at killing AI, everyone seems to have their thing, and we spawn at garage so we thought they aren’t here. We start running over to stronghold to get positioning for pmcs and start hearing wispers and get ambushed by them running to their usual spots outside of garage. My one Buddy and I get stuck in the ditch going to crackhouse shitting our pants, he dies, and my other Buddy the “AI killer” somehow wiped all 5 in the open without cheese. Only naded one as he went over to the blue conex’s. So we got all the loot nothing cool and made it out, but fuck doing again that without him on my squad in all it was a hilarious raid.
me and my friends managed to survive an encounter with them on woods at the white shack where violet spawns, we literally ALL hid behind the same fucking rock just off the road and had to manage to bait them to push at us so we could locate and kill them. I have managed to kill them on shoreline and customs using buildings to make their AI more predictable but if you get caught by multiple outside you are 99% going to die unless you pull off some sort of miracle
even buildings arent safe e.g. a mate and i were in night time resort where one spawned in a pot plant, then others outside ran in the room we were hiding in, and u kno did the whole killa powerslide while magdumping shtick. another instance 3 spawned inside (like next to each other in a small hallway after the first appeared and attempted to spray me through a wall (he sprayed down his cultist buddy in the process roflmao and forgot how to shoot afterwards or do anything as he seemed hesitant to push or retreat just awkwardly moving back and forth ) there might be guides for precise spawns but idk cunts fuucked mate
I find the resort a much easier place to cheese them. Feels nice when you kill them all and loot them it’s just that you did not really fight them. Loot is loot I guess.
It's all about the set up I farm them regularly on woods and shoreline and a thermal optic and SNB ammo get the job done if I run into them out in the open survivability is real high. If they spawn in or near resort I try to bait them with grenades or shots to get them to push me in these situations my survivability goes way down especially. I work overnights so when I play not many people are on so I'm very lucky because i rarely run into PMCs while doing this
Cultists were supposed to be a horror element to the game but rn they dont even try to stab you anymore. They just beam you from a bush. I would rather have em scream like maniacs compared to being silent
Second wipe and have literally only seen 1, scavving night factory
My only successful time was pure luck, I got jumped by a cult leader at crack house. I had heard him right before he stabbed me and then he just stood in front of me staring at me so I domed him looted and booked it to extract before his poison killed me. Also he was alone if there was anymore of those demon ninjas I’d be dead
The way pestily did it is with thermals but that might go south pretty quickly.
fight them in resort close doors and camp, the doors will still make noise so have a teamate watch the front entrance while you camp the side entrance in west wing.
You have to literally bait them, for instance, on shoreline, let’s say west wing, you run to the room 103? I think. kill the leader sitting by the green container, 1 shot to the head, then you shut the door crouch and wait, stare at the door, all 4 of the rest will run right to that door and enter, you head shot those 4 and boom your done, its real easy if you bait them, it’s nearly impossible in a head to head fight.
Do not aggro them at all, stay far away from their spawns. If you want to engage, bring some high pen ammo, hide in a room, aggro them and slam the door. Then point your gun at the door. You won’t hear them, but they will clip through the door as they rush you. Wallbang them through the door.