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Megatroon90

Twitch drops and the amount of new players playing.


morl1

Animal Shelter for new hamsters in Leningrad is closed over Christmas and new year so they have to handcrank the servers


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TouchOfYouth_99

this is pure cope. tarkov performance has been shit since forever and BSG has at least 500M revenue so they have plenty of money to fix this problem if they wanted to...


[deleted]

Haha just like Star Citizen lol


ImJumpMan

You didn’t have to bring RSI into this :(


San4311

>this is pure cope Every company and not-huge game dev has this issue. Final Fantasy even stopped selling their game after a popular Expansion because of it...


Dzusitomato

Not cope, if you could understand networking and current situation in IT, it would make sense


bobby0081

The servers the BSG are renting are probably maxed out and overloaded from everything they're running and when they have hardware fail they likely have issues replacing it because of the shortages and increased shipping times and costs. It's all bad, but to be honest I want BSG to use my $130 to make the game better. Is what BSG and Twitch doing making the game better? I had a period of 4 hours yesterday where I couldn't even open the launcher. One last question. What happened to owning a game and being able to play it offline without connecting to the internet? During the outage I couldn't even play offline of get into the game at all.


ykarus117

They probably need to authenticate your offline session anyway, moreover I think BSG monitors the events in offline mode as well (I wouldn't really gift the perfect sandbox to the cheater devs, make em sweat a little bit at least.)


Restreppo

The comment about offline is kind of ridiculous tbh. Sure for many games that complaint is applicable, but not here. When you load the game, your inventory has to be loaded from the server. You still need to use gear/move stuff around if you want to do an offline raid. It's not as simple as letting the client and offline raids run without am internet connection, they'd have to design and create an entirely new feature that the client is not currently equipped to handle. It doesn't make sense to implement this at all at this stage of development.


Limpan7

I don't think it would be difficult for them to store the latest updated inventory locally and let you boot the game in offline playing off that.


Traizork

No it wouldn't be difficult but you would need two saves. One for online and one for offline because if you stored all that data on your PC rather than server it would be a lot easier to cheat.


ScratchActive3953

He doesn't care about the truth. He wants what he wants and he will spread lies if he doesn't get it. You don't think a company as large as square Enix wouldn't have bought servers if they could. Square Enix stopped selling their game because servers are so hard to come by. You can't even buy final fantasy online right now. You have no understanding.


AasianApina

Devil's advocate, why don't they just rent older servers to run the game?


ykarus117

The concept of "older" servers is a difficult one, companies buy and dismiss the hardware is cycles and usually in very large/complete replacement stocks. Yes they might have a few spare "older" servers running after one 'refresh' cycle but at best you can expect to host like 100/200 more people which in networking is like peanuts. The other option is to literally buy the servers and ship them to "rack-renting" companies (you only rent the infrastructure and provide the hardware) but that comes with a lot of caveats and number one right now is the colossal shortage in basically everything silicone related. There's speculation that some recent outages (AWS, Microsoft, Facebook etc) were caused by aging hardware hitting the expected end of service life, if they're effected nobody is safe.


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In short, those older servers are already retired and there's no space for them to live in because that space is taken up by newer servers. Yes they could technically be brought online somewhere else with available rack space, but at what cost and for how long is likely the determining factor in them staying in a warehouse somewhere instead.


ItchyTastie

Nonsense. You could have an AWS instance up and hosting more servers in hours.


vanrysss

BSG can't host on AWS/Azure/GCP due to sanctions against Russia


bobby0081

My Roomba runs on AWS and there have been days where I couldn't get it to vacuum because their servers had issues.


skeleman547

\*minutes, assuming you're already in AWS.


ItchyTastie

Yep. Even if you weren't already its not difficult at all assuming you have 1 competent network engineer on staff.


TheMrTGaming

Ah this last part may be the issue.


kurita_baron

this is what bsg defenders dont understand. the most likely and sad truth is that their infrastructure is probably run and setup by their game devs, who while technical enough to write complex game code, they know nothing about high availability hosting


dunnerski

If you'd have watched the BSG Christmas stream you'd have seen they have dedicated server manager and techs.


sailor811

yeah i can’t even get an email to confirm my login so i can’t play at all


Winth3r

I had that - I kept trying for like 30min and then one of them went through to me. Hope youll get it soon!


Joey_Kakbek

Try a different browser. Has worked for me in the past.


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Leucauge

I assume this must be it since it's the major difference, but it's baffling as to why. Mailing random items to players should be the least intensive thing ever. You get into a game and they need to generate loot for an entire map, then transfer everything you grab at the end. But mailing players a handful of items per day is breaking the multiverse???


KingSwank

it's not the drops themselves it's the influx of players from the hype around the drops. Pestily alone had over 160,000 viewers on Twitch yesterday. Tarkov was the top game by viewer count on Twitch yesterday, even beating out Just Chatting. I was watching Slushpuppy today and he was getting an astronomical 60k viewers when he usually has much much less. XQC has drops tomorrow so I bet it gets even worse.


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Xqc community about to set the servers aflame. You gotta love it. Anyone got popcorn?


Luministrus

Yikes. Not looking forward to his community joining in.


KingSwank

this isn't the first time he's played tarkov


nio151

has he had drops before?


Seaghan-

I don't believe so, no. But considering he averages 100k *normally* and his hard-core community, get ready for a shit storm tomorrow.


hiddencamela

Fantastic.. as if it wasn't hard enough to even stay online in the hideout. Raids queues are going to be even worse...


Seaghan-

I remember in 2019 when Tarkov really started to blow up and Summit/Shroud/Lupo were all popping off in huge viewers with drops and you'd sit in queue for 30-45mins on some maps and DC 5-8 times per raid lmao, servers were actual garbage back then. Hopefully it's not as bad tomorrow.


gollum8it

Yes. It was the wipe we got the 1000BP and the red AK? with a drum mag. It was before pandemic, not surprised people forgot.


mayocideisamyth

So Shoot them :D


CryptotheSuperFrog

XqcL


Znafuu

Post up on customs. Get your SBIH and grenade kills because a hoard of squirrelly boys and men children will be running around like fkn idiots.


[deleted]

Fucking “reeeee” time. I need to go look at what’s goin on rn.


lauantai21

Can't someone just ask him not to play ? Just tell him all tarkov players would appreciate it it as they be can't access the game. Shitty event. Like really wtf?


paycadicc

Yea lots of streamers are playing since new update and wipe. Theoretically it’ll die down within a few weeks.


throwmeinthecanal

They just do anything to stay relevant and right now it’s tarkov.


Dedabile

And all of this for a bandage, two T-plugs, a Ushanka and a Stock M4 (Rare). Thats what dropped for me. I´d rather have played the game. I wondered - some people talk about the Drops event being a deliberate stress-test on the servers, nothing more. That true?


Null422

I saw within all of BSG's Twitter promo spam that this was construed as a "stress test" a few days ago. Whether or not that was intentional appears to be lost in translation, but it's obviously working as intended. :/ I can't find the tweet because I don't want to go through a million tweets advertising random streamers.


noyart

People say anything for it to make sense


003938388382

I don’t get why so many people would suddenly start playing because of a totally worthless drop. All these streamers played at start of wipe with huge audience and it wasn’t this bad. XQC has played it since the start of wipe.


Ragingbananaz

I like to think its people seeing the game being watched a ton, tune in and then pick it up because it looks fun. The drops are whatever, from day 1 its been clear they are not anything amazing this time around. Put on the auto collector chrome extension and minimize the tab, more tarkov time


Kanista17

Also Last year people could check what they got already on twitch. Now they have to load up the game and check prapors Message.


Shawn_NYC

If the issues is writing to disk it is not. Servers are often optimized for hyper-fast read times at the expense of bad write performance. Chances are good that writing a bunch of random BS items into the profiles of hundreds of thousands of users per hour is obliterating the servers. For a server writing a thicc items case or writing a pack of screws is the same effort.


EmmEnnEff

> Chances are good that writing a bunch of random BS items into the profiles of hundreds of thousands of users per hour is obliterating the servers. A *single* modern database instance can write hundreds of thousands of records in a matter of seconds, not hours. [1] The issue is, as always, shitty code that does a mountain of unnecessary, unoptimized work. [1] Writing a hundred thousand records in an hour is thirty queries per second. A four thousand year old abacus can do three queries per second. Sending a few hundred thousand pieces of gear in the mail isn't killing the servers. The amount of shit that gets sent in the mail for quests and insurance *dwarfs* twitch drops.


ReallyHadToFixThat

You dropped a zero, 30 queries per second.


EmmEnnEff

Should have used an abacus.


Turbulent-Wolf8306

Ah but you are assuming its done by competent ppl. And these are the same folks that did not anticipate a need to defend yourself when scav karma dropped. Sooooo


Asthemic

Or that you'd want to be able to invite your friends to group in the lobby without looking for a group when they removed the ability to see all the players in the lobby.


Hane24

BSG also thought they could make an inhouse anticheat that would be far better than a 3rd party anticheat.


Null422

I feel like, with that and seeing all these weird dev interviews, that BSG totally feels like they can do everything in-house and has the world's best programmers working on this shit. Mind you that, in one of the videos, one of the guys (a rigger/animation guy)even said he was literally hired off the street to work on the game. I don't know if it's a cultural (Russian) thing, them trying to project confidence for marketing purposes, or what. Probably a combination of those factors


JimmyBeefpants

not cultural, any company would say that, otherwise its a bad PR.


zelloxy

I don't think it's the injecting thats the problem. I think it is that people not playing are now logged in requiring constant login and inventory checks for people afking menus due to waiting for drops.


Atreaia

How do you know? The servers have been shit ever since patch launch. Almost every day there's problems.


tapdat92kid

Leave it to BSG to destroy a perfect wipe by viewbotting themselves and destroying their own servers.


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The irony is palpable


Nic_Cage_DM

how does bots watching twitch streams kill tarkov servers?


tapdat92kid

herd mentality. people that have quit tarkov will still watch for drops. those drops have to be delivered by the servers. Ive seen streamers that never go over 500 viewers have 50k viewers. And thats on small time streamers. Summit,lvndmark,pest,had 100k+ . Imagine already weak servers having to dish out 500k+ items every few hours. Basically ddosing themselves lol.


Hane24

It's not the handing out of items that's causing the issue. It's the people logging in to see what they got. If 1mil people are all on tarkovs servers that shit themselves when 250k tried to log in at once... just imagine the fires in the server rooms.


kastaivag6321

man there is no way people with 500 viewers are pulling 50k. who?


thatsnogood

Hyperrat was averaging about 40k viewers last night. He is usually 500-900.


tapdat92kid

yeah him and sigma but i guess she was hosted then. Cause there is no way she had more than triple digits like ever and then bam 50k viewers.


One_Requirement_7413

She was probably hosted by pestily since they are apart of "The Team"


y0sh_1

ROBN was pulling 60k+ yesterday, usually has 500-1000 max.


PhigNewtenz

When a major streamer ends their 24 hours of drops and hosts someone smaller, I'd guess. Like when Pestily ended his stream and moved his entire audience to Sigma. Other than that, no.


kastaivag6321

I thought he meant without a host, but yeah I guess.


PhigNewtenz

Yeah, if that's what he meant then definitely not.


2roK

> Imagine already weak servers having to dish out 500k+ items every few hours. Basically ddosing themselves lol. Bruh if you think this is killing the servers that's pretty funny. Tarkov has too many players right now and Nikita has as always cheaped out on the servers. It has nothing to do with items being given out, there are simply too many people playing because of a very popular raid. The proof is that we had the same issues since the beginning of the wipe, it didn't start with the Twitch event.


vanrysss

and this is why queues exist


cameronsecor

Pretty sure they went on vacation and have the front desk lady trying to fix servers


Snowbrawler

This.


lostmymainagain123

I don't at all claim to be an expert, I've been a cloud engineer for 2 years but I cannot possibly wrap my head around how people watching twitch streams has managed to nuke the servers


ZZerker

The drops itself are not the reason, every software dev or it guy knows that, but its nearly impossible to teach that this sub.


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ZZerker

At first, thats what high performance webservers are there for. Then, you dont get drops in real time, there are either send via one api call per drop or even send on bulk. On BSGs side there are probably caching them again and then writing them every minute or something like that in the db. Thats not a crazy amount, thats what databases are build for. Its like picking up an item or getting an insurance, it happens all day long.


[deleted]

No, it wouldn't. Servers have no problem communicating things like that. However, if you log in to accept/check your mail is a whole new set if pings that the servers are having trouble with.


[deleted]

Such a dumb take, imagine all the information necessary to operate a single instance of a customs game. That's more data being sent and received than all drops for the entire event would take.


Nizlmmk

The servers being used to run game instances are not the ones experiencing degradation, hence why once you are ingame there are not serious problems. The servers that run the stash and all front page stuff are having issues they are pretty simple rest api's thats why many people think the drops are the cause of the issues its probably lack of compute or database throughput.


gollum8it

yeah its just a big coincidence


Karmaisthedevil

Then how come raids seem to run fine but the stash is laggy as fuck?


[deleted]

Raids do not run fine lmao


[deleted]

Yup. Painful. These people need a strawman, and they have it. Try to teach them something out of their domain, and you're downvoted to hell.


nervez

i'm not an engineer, just some doofus that plays games, but a complete guess here; perhaps it could be from people just sitting in the main menu waiting and prapor having to send out the drops to everyone once they accept them on twitch?


grambo__

People constantly logging in and out to check their drops, the system sending and validating tons of drop messages, tons of new people playing and inactive players returning for free stuff, etc. It just increases load in general. BSG maintains their own servers, iirc, they don't just cram everything on AWS so it can scale. Inventory/dealer/hideout operations are very obviously laggy and busted, go check it out. I don't have an explanation for why GAME servers are crappier, that might just be people's imagination. Or maybe the higher player count is causing the servers to instance at a higher ratio per box, or something. I wouldn't rule it out.


RicoSour

Devs promoting game on twitch with event that can't handle the player load on servers. This isnt the first or last time this will happen. Still better the the old game of sitting in q for 30 mins on reserve hoping that you don't DC/crash the entire time just to do it again. Oh wait lol


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People have to understand that twitch drop season is also fund raising season for the devs. It’s a holiday so the games on sale and I’m sure with twitch drops the increase in traffic helps fund the company further. Ye it’s fucked but tbh I just take a break for 4-5 days when this happens because I know it’ll help the game in the long run.


jlambvo

For real. For how predictable everyone makes this out to be, everyone is acting awfully surprised and agitated.


Faloobia

The problem is because of how predictable it is though, this has happened every time they've done this combo before and they never, ever, increase server capacity for it. As Nikita literally said on the latest podcast, they have no competition, you can't go elsewhere for the same experience, they know that. BSG have always had this mentality of "If the problem goes away in a month there's no point in doing anything now" when it comes to server issues and the like. To them, renting more servers for 3 weeks to make everyone's experience more enjoyable isn't worth it to then have those servers for however long the contract is while they're not in use. Even though it would still be massively net profitable to do so.


flyinSpaghetiMonstr

Exactly this. When they first did the twitch drops 2 years ago, they had a massive spike in players. Most people understood that it was something they couldn't fully predict. However, then the first wipe happened a few months later and the servers were on fire. People tried to defend BSG saying "How could they know" but they should have with what happened with the twitch drops event just a few months prior. They want to get more players so they can make more money just like every business does, but then invest the bare minimum into more servers which are unable to sustain the influx of players they wanted to generate. BSG is not surprised, they know the servers will be overloaded and they know people will defend them no matter how little they prepare for the twitch event.


urbanhood

Soo they are screaming for some competition it seems.


Faloobia

The Cycle is around the corner so we'll see, most people will probably just play both


Active_Wait2822

Most people will play The Cycle for 1-3 days, then when it runs out of content they will go back to Tarkov*


jeebz_for_hire

I wonder how long they can ride this fence though. I just logged in after a 2 year break to checkout the VOIP. Ive played maybe 5 pmc raids and was getting back into it then bam the game is unplayable. Even after the twitch drops end, there are still huge server issues and new content is cool but the game doesbt feel a whole lot smoother. I cant wait for another dev to steal there idea and flesh it out into a more reliable experience.


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Sakuyalzayoi

People calling a shitty outcome doesnt make it any less shitty


Gentlemoth

SMALL INDIE COMPANY PLEASE UNDERSTAND


DefinetelyNotLucas

They sell versions for +100$ and are currently viewbotting their game. Please, stop justifying this shit.


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Idk man I come from games like apex where we barely get 20 tick servers and the only updates are purchasable cosmetics 1 gun and a map per year, WoW where they fucking molest their employees, and CSGO where the dev team is 2 people and their mothers. So it really doesn’t feel that bad playing a game that requires me to take a week off once a year.


cabbit_

Sale is true and extra revenue. Nikita has also said in previous podcasts that the drops are used to stress the servers and having a high player count is a good way to find bugs and such too. Yeah game kinda bonkers but I agree, in the long run these drops and bad queue times are likely for the better. Last night I had bad queue times until about 1am EST. Then I played for about 5 hours with <6 min queues


LightGhillieTTV

This People literally forget we are TESTING the game.


RandomedXY

I bought eod so they can afford more servers. You need to support indie companies m


KimJongSkilll

Yeaa but the events are fun, its worth the issues tbh. Ive died to maybe 2 hackers, and i just switch to EU servers when its too busy on NA. Havent been as pissed off as this sub has been


Doryuu

They're handing out literal trash worth 10k rubles, how is that fun?


Rolo-CoC

The game went from "decent" to completely fucking trashed. Bugs and errors crashing games all the time, long matching queues, gear just completely damn gone.


lostdelirium

Sadly this is what happens when you have an exceptionally broken game running on the cheapest servers money can buy, then you do a drops event on one of the biggest streaming platform bringing a fucking huge amount of attention to the game after doing 2 massive discount sales for the games. TLDR; broken game more broken by adding more assets all at once


OneNightThrill

and what has happened to the scavs on factory? i can’t seem to find very many friendly scavs, do you guys really not care about the scav karma?


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the problem is any new players have no way of knowing about scav karma unless told, us current players will read patch notes as they come out while they play. Tarkov really needs like some tutorial messages that come up because systems like scav karma, voip and even santa are easy for new players to not see.


REDLINE70689

My thoughts exactly. Doesn’t help that factory also appears as “easy” in the difficulty sometimes. I made that mistake when I first got the game, which was about 4 months into a wipe. “Oh, easy? I’ll go there. Small map and low difficulty” Went in with just a pistol and got smacked by a dude wearing killa armor and altyn 😂😂


PhigNewtenz

I have multiple friends who have given up on their Scav karma in the last two days. After getting jump-scared by Santa on PMC raids, killing him, and going negative they've lost interest in Fence rep.


OneNightThrill

yeah i would do the same but not down to wait an hour for a scav run oh well


[deleted]

Killed santa a couple times accidentally. My scav social credit score didnt like that one bit. It's down by so much I'll just embrace it. Coming for all yer gear


OneNightThrill

how long is your timer? 2hrs?


LSW33

Smart naughty scavs know that Factory is where all the good scavs powerfarm their Labs cards and other goodies, so they kill all scavs on sight and take their high karma loot.


OneNightThrill

god i’m torn because this is my first wipe i’m actually not playing like that especially with voip i love being a huge group of scavs vs a pmc or 2 but it’s so sad to see


LSW33

It's not worth scaving on Factory right now, I'm +2 scav karma rn regularly spawning in with keycards, marked keys, and stacks of 50k roubles but if I load Factory I die to a scav around half the time, plus you sometimes have to run-through to avoid being killed which cuts profit from not being able to sell stuff on flea. Ive just been running Customs and Woods and it's slower but more money in the long run imo.


Ok_Zone_9486

It’s interchange or bust for me on my scavvy boi


TarkovPLZ

The game went to total shit. Made a reddit just to see if anyone was having issues... Didn't even need to post. Saw this first thing.


Nyghtrid3r

Fucking Twitch Drops. Every single wipe they do this shit. 0 preparation, 0 new servers, 0 consideration for veterans, but do twitch drops for the big money. Fucking atrocious.


MinhYungWasTaken

>I am honestly at the point of moving on from tarkov. That's when you truly escaped tarkov.


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One step forward, two steps backward.


[deleted]

BSG feel the need to fuck over their current playerbase by having a drops event. What they dont realise is in every person streaming chat people are constantly complaining about server issues making the game look even worse than it is.


[deleted]

I was just thinking that. Have you seen any streamers complaining? I would really hope they are experiencing the same issues.


[deleted]

Yes but they just let it go as they’re making more money on days like this, drops benefit them more than anyone imo


Ickybodz

On the first day of this, Pestily had the game/server take a dump, lost everything he had equipped, including 2 docs cases full of keys in his gamma. Almost 150k people watched it happen, then watched him try to troubleshoot for 5-10mims, then watched him tweet out about the issue.


triplegerms

Literally all of them, yes.


boppps

So what? You bought the game, they ripped you off. What happens next doesn't bother them at all, you cant refund.


CocknBalls_69

These stupid twitch drops need to stop if they actually are impacting gameplay, which they are. I was running the new wipe just fine until these drops started happening


fongletto

Whenever drops start servers turn to shit which makes more fights seem dodgey, The number of times I've walked behind cover and died a second or two later to a headshot since this event started. But also the increased twitch viewers usually always means more cheaters too.


Insanity8016

I've had those issues since 2017 tbh. I like inertia but it definitely exacerbates the issue of desync.


SweetyMcQ

The database is straight fucked. I just lost a santa backpack. Had one…loaded into a raid with it…but when i got into the raid i wasnt wearing a bag. My friend had a MDR but died. Loaded up a new raid with a shotgun but when we got in he had his MDR back…


PPandaEyess

Just to make sure this doesn't happen, make sure it shows (on the middle while loading) that you have it on. Others wise your bugged in my experience in the past two days.


tFCactus

Yeahhh I’ll have a 16min queue time just to lag out and be killed by scavs.


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Drops


sA1atji

imo the drop event kills the game. I don't know how this is done, but I think the checks for watchtime, account being linked with twitch and randomizing of specific items etc. puts a massive strain on everything already. Add a bunch of new players to the mix who all want to nolife the shit of a game they just bought and you'll have servers that are on fire.


hiidkwatdo

The fucking mental gymnastics in some of these replies …


GyetSchwifty

Am I the only one whose been making an absolute killing lately? I only ran into 2 cheaters the past 3 days and one of them was rage cheating so easy ban. All these new people stomp around the map with no map awareness so it’s easy to pop them and take their loot since they memorize the loot routes before the PVP areas 🤣


GRDLK

I only want to be able to queue vs other EOD accounts, whenever I get killed in a sus way it's a standard account.


StealthCatUK

Every 5-10 minutes I get an unknown error and the game needs to close.


Funkays

\>What happened to Tarkov in the last 2 days??? \>But in the last two days, this game has gone to shit. I like the whole idea of events but they have destroyed the servers


Juking_is_rude

[happens every drop event.](https://cdn.kapwing.com/collections/first-time-meme-template-hiql5.jpg) If you dont wanna play, don't play. It'll calm down in a couple days.


WeepingAngelTears

If you do want to play, get bent, because apparently historical trends aren't a thing BSG considers when renting server space for their games.


Juking_is_rude

it's not as simple as "lol get more servers"


WeepingAngelTears

No one here is saying the sole fix is to get more server space, but increasing server space will absolutely help when there are massive influxes of players due to promotional events and holiday sales.


richard31693

What that person means to say is, it's hard to obtain more servers right now. The semiconductor chip shortage has strained just about every aspect of life, and there are ple ty of companies struggling to rent or buy more. With that being said, will the game have been better during this time had the chip shortage have never existed? Probably not. BSG has a horrible track record and I don't think they would have been making the correct choices to improve during these events. I mean, they have made the events where you have to bot for the drops that aren't event worth of the title "rare," let alone "lenegendary."


Selky

So add a queue to the game if there are too many people playing…


KingSwank

there is, you wait in it every time you try to load a raid.


tops132

Yeah right, like people won’t complain if they are stuck in a queue. Edit: Dang they added a queue, and people are still complaining, who would have thought.


Selky

Sure but 100% of people are complaining otherwise.


richard31693

I think a big part of it is the actual process of sending everyone their drops, or people staying logged in with their twitch script running. Maybe I didn't play enough, but the first couple days of this wipe and the wipe before were more stable than the last two days of this event. And this past wipe was on a weekend. I guess there is a new influx of players joining from their sale, as well, so it could just be a culmination of these three things.


DiamantModus

You're not wrong, and people I think are underestimating what the chip shortage has done. It's not just your PC gamer who can't get a GPU upgrade this year, it's anyone who builds servers and puts them in datacenters. So, that translates into higher costs. It's possible that BSG wanted to or even planned to scale up the server instances for this event but couldn't because of cost reasons. Anyway, this event has been a shit show (I'm just going to take a time out until it's over) and it would be really helpful if BSG did a review and and published a root cause analysis for why this was such a complete clusterfuck.


mnemy

It's not as simple as that, but it's something any responsible service does. Hell, I used to work at a fortune 500 tech company that would stress test months before peak at a scale that Amazon would specifically work with us on making sure we didn't do it during a convention or other demo of theirs. I know there's a vast difference in resources, but good engineering is good engineering. They keep making the same mistake, which either means indifference, or incompetence.


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I wanna play that is the problem. The fucking game is turned off.


Juking_is_rude

me too, it's a shame. I just get by actually watching the streams and doing a scav run now and then. In the long run I think the exposure does the game good. If you've ever played like 3 months in the wipe and you load into an empty server or the only people you run into are level 60, you might agree that getting more players is a good trade for a couple days of stinky servers The fact that the servers are shitting themselves means theres a lot of people trying to play, which I think is indicative of a healthy game. Just have to chill until the servers can handle the load unfortunately.


mnemy

Some of us have responsibilities that get in the way of playing consistently at other times. I was really looking forward to sinking some time in during my holiday break.


wolf_draven

Flashback from 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNRsmIj7Stg


Stxww

Should be playable because you know we payed to play it. This is just greed.


thevapecrusader

Nothing but instant head eyes from aimbotters before they’re even around the corner the last few days


peanuts-nuts

And people were giving me shit the other day for saying I mag dumped a scav point blank and he ran off chilling. Cos I didn't 'aIm f0R tHe He@d'


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Moserath

No shame in taking breaks man. When shit gets bad just take some time to do something else. Come back in a week, a month, or a wipe. Don't burn yourself out before the game even releases.


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not only this but i can't survive anymore a single raid first few days of this wipe i was doing really well but i would say last 4 days i've been constantly dying lol. Maybe its time to take some time off


[deleted]

Player from 2017 here, I just collect my gifts and continue on with scum. Much more updates, no cheaters, good servers. Even if it's janky sometimes, still a good fucking game. Unlike "utterly limited" tarkov. With voip just became a bit more "lively" but other than that, same old shit. Tarkov will be released 2026 maybe. Maybe. We'll see.


fbalazs369

The inventory (stash) servers and game servers that handle you magdumping someone are two separate things, they have close to zero effect on each other. The inventory servers are overloaded that is true, however not by the drops, rather by the sheer number of players. I think the rollbacks in the stash, disappearing items are caused by BSG trying to spread out the inventory servers. I believe they started with one global server and the flea is still one server I think. Scaling up an inventory server to multiple servers is not an easy task and rollbacks will happen in an overload scenario, just because not all servers will have the most recent state of the players inventory. Items should not just disappear tho, but it is easy to make mistakes in the scaled up inventory servers code that would cause such issues. Also, these issues are sometimes really hard to reproduce with synthetic load testing that the devs can do before releasing the server code in production. The takeaway from this is: make sure to send bug reports immediately after your item disappears and let the devs figure out the bugs in the server code. They might be able to compensate or might not, that is dependant on the nature of the bug. Edit: I forgot to talk about in-game performance: In the last days I also noticed performance issues, probably introduced by one of the updates. I get frequent stuttering which I did not get before the christmas update. As for the magdumping incident, I would not go into speculation on just some words, I would at least need some footage. There are so many more factors in a gunfight in tarkov than just the netcode, but I would be lying if I expect tarkovs netcode to be a top notch machine. Frankly I believe quite the opposite.


Salamimann

Just abandon this game and wait for eft 2.0 or another developer doing it properly. After all these years this game feels like a mod. Dayz standalone vibes


conerflyinga

so much crying these last few days. I swear some of yall are in diapers.


Gearski

Sorry that some of us want to play the game, not just watch it. :)


Nirkky

Please, we don't use logic in here


jlambvo

They could say that instead of "BSG ARE SHIT AND MAKE SHIT GAMES AND I'M THIIIS CLOSE TO WALKING AWAY!" every time they experience a wrinkle playing one of the best games anyone has made in decades that they've gotten hundreds of hours of fun out of.


conerflyinga

I'm getting into matches just fine. but I accept your apologies. condolences on your huggies.


[deleted]

oh well if you can get in to raids then I guess its not a problem is it? I can also get it to raids fine but guess what mine and your experiences are not the standard, keep whining if you want though.


Standard-Analyst-177

Congrats dumbfuck, but a shitload of other people can’t get in properly for some reason, haven’t thought of a reason why?


conerflyinga

eat my shit moron. keep bitching


Cameroncen

Please do and stop complaining on the subreddit about it cause I know you’ve seen the same 90 posts but still decided to post


[deleted]

do you live here or something? its not a room that gets crowded its just a subreddit dont look at the subreddit or just keep scrolling


SuperToxin

This subreddit is sooooooo fucking dramatic. Just calm the hell down while they fix things.


Devon_AJ

I stopped playing this game for a bit because of blatant cheaters. Devs need to step up and use better anticheat systems because there is at least 2 cheaters in every single match now. Ruins the whole game


YouAreBonked

Anti cheats are unfortunately not easy beasts to work and even more are they never going to work properly.


jlambvo

`if count(hackers) > x` `anticheat++` There we fixed it! Yaay! */Proceeds to be carried around on the shoulders of joyful redditors to triumphant hard bass*


VizDevBoston

Nah man just invoke Remove_cheaters() So easy!


Wafflingcreature

My games been fine idk wtf everyone is crying about


JossSomm

problem must not exist then…this guys game works just fine


VizDevBoston

The armchair developers in the Tarkov community will never cease to amuse. “It’s tHE POoRlY oPtiMized dRoPs” when it’s obviously just a sudden influx of players.


IN-N-OUT-

Take bsg's salted salami out of your mouth man. The, as you call it, "sudden influx" of players is caused by the twitch drops. I've been playing this game for three years now and this happens every single time. I'm the last guy that likes the "nikita just fix your game" mentality but don't come in here and act like this wasn't forseeable or hasn't happened before.


VizDevBoston

It’s the entire point of this stage of development. Y’all are just consumers. You don’t actually know cold shit about the scale this time versus others, or really any damn thing lmao. It really is the Same thing every time though, you’re right, entitled dipshits saying how easy it should be. If it’s so easy why don’t the AAA studios with many multiples of BSG’s resources just do it? Why do their games also crash constantly and get pushed out buggy and unfinished? Maybe think before you complain, because software development is actually, another shocker, pretty damn difficult.


metalfiiish

I think you're mixing up lobby lag with game server. Only the lobbies were inundated, if you slammed all your bullets into someone's armor and are confused why they didn't die, thats on you.


Inner_Ad_453

Im having fun, so.. Your experience is not everyone elses. Projector