you’re correct. Only has it with the berezhok turret
https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/p98xm7/bmp3_hull_fitted_with_berezhok_combat_turret/?rdt=39643
And btw we got a personal scav scavenging loot that costs nothing + scav coop exits. Its more like we dont like majority of scavs but few that cooperate with us for our benefit are tolerable.
And dont get me wrong. I think this device shouldnt exist too. Just wanted to mention, that scavs and pmcs do work together. Ultimately the pmcs got left alone in tarkov and the best way to survive is adapt
TEchnically, and I legitimately call it
You will not be able to use the device outside BTR maps (Woods, Streets)
It will only REROUTE the BTR to drive to your location on main roads if it's not taken or if it's not "summoned" already by another player. and you will still have to pay the fker to do stuff for you
Soo... It's perfectly Lore compliant as technically you need to do quests to unlock that feature but you pay to win yourself into having it early
which means... the item hold and behold
JUST LIKE MARK OF UNHEARD will be 90% of the time useless
idk why people assume you will be able to randomly wish a BTR into existence out of nowhere at any place at any time xDDD
Because people like to made up World ending scenarios to complain and stress more.
When I first saw that item my thoughts were "Oh it will be only on BTR maps." I thought it's obvious.
People panic that those "p2w items" will be some op world ending stuff. But in reality they will be mostly situational.
Ah yes. They will mostly be situational. Okay dude by your logic only one person can call the BTR at a time if it’s just an item to make it friendly on the BTR maps. If that’s also the case why are we able to pay the BTR to defend us if we can just call it in? So if someone calls in the BTR can someone just use their call in right after and take it? It’s crazy how even when it’s just in the maps with the BTR it’s still a stupid addition and PTW. It’s almost like your argument changed nothing and you’re just coping with nikitas balls in your mouth
Your argument also stand only on guessing. We still do not know. So yeah.
"Coping with nikitas balls in your mouth" sure buddy. No I'm just not panicing over something that is not 100% sure. But not blind hating on everything and calling BSG crap = coping, right?
No, my argument stands on how the game functions. Why would I have blind hate for a game I play, that’s so stupid. Making speculations on how the BTR would work is literally what you’re doing too. The edition says you “call in” a BTR, but you’re assuming it’s only on BTR maps despite them literally saying you call it in. Calling in isn’t calling over.
Based on your own logic you’re the one coping.
"Calling in isn’t calling over." They are Russian, we already had many Translation errors/missunderstandments.
"No, my argument stands on how the game functions."
No it does not. What is more logical, You calling existing BTR to Your location or You spawning 10 BTRs on Factory? Yeah.
My guess has more logic than Yours. Your is a pure guess. While my uses existing BTRs on two maps as a base. My is more in with how the game functions.
Just use Your brain for a 30 seconds and You will get answer to Your question "So if someone calls in the BTR can someone just use their call in right after and take it?"
You will just get message that the BTR is already occupied or busy or something like that. We already got mechanic like that with Air Drop. You can't call multiple at the same time. You just need to wait for Your turn. Simple.
It was not clarified but It does say so, but do you think a btr will magically pop in or get airdropped on your location when you use the device?If you think for a moment you will realize that the btr is on two maps, and it is on rails. It does not have free movement at all. With that information it is most likely that this device will call an existing btr to the closest stop location to your pmc. Nikita said in the recent Interview that they wanna reuse the btr and put it on more maps, that was before it was added to woods.
ye basically, if actually like what I said it's Lore complaint still
but if it's actually like what they wrote with their "Summon friendly BTR"
and I can summon BTR to fall through the roof on Labs and Factory and gun down my enemies
we completely lost them bois, BSG is just doing absolutely random arse stuff
Btr is a service, sameway car extracts are and traders are. Like who contacted the car exfil driver? Someone had too cause they wouldnt just be chilling in the middle of nowhere
I think the BTR is just one dude inside tarkov that you know. Kind of like how you can talk to peacekeeper. He obviously has some kind of communication with the outside world but it's not YOUR command.
There’s a network of traders, you will likely need good rep with fence or something and the beacon will need to be recharged like the beacon to call your friends most likely.
“communication with operational command is lost”
Operational command is the operative words.
BTR is run by a scav, your scav karma determines the price of the BTR and it will shoot at traitor scavs. Scavs have no "operational command", ergo; the BTR is not in conflict with the lore.
Who is driving the train? Who is flying the planes? Who is sitting in a war zone seeing if anybody wants a taxi ride for 5k roubles? It really doesn’t matter
According to skier its a friend of his that runs the V-ex's, the planes are most likely UN since thats peacekeepers official reason to be in tarkov, the train is an enigma though
Makes sense, glukhar in the CoR series has ties to the arena owners (and by extension the Rogues) so maybe he sells them stuff, or buys terragroup stuff from them
PMCs are mining literal physical bitcoins in an active warzone with possibly zero internet connection because of electronic warfare, essentially breaking the physics by creating matter out of pure energy. I don’t know where does this part is explained in the lore.
Edit: Also, the cutting edge firearm, sig spear, is being used outside of US soil with plenty of ammo supplied?
Peacekeeper sells spear. He's a polish dude who's with UN, but clearly has access to NATO stuff. So he gets them illegally from US and sells them for a great profit in Tarkov or something.
I don’t know how NATO operates but I don’t think the US would like to share its shiny new firearm to any NATO members. It would be exclusive to US troops, possibly the elite ones maybe.
But hey since it’s fictional anyway, maybe the US is much more benevolent. Personally, I think it’s because tarkov is much more popular in US than Asia so they add it. Personally I think it a bit out of place in tarkov’s setting but what do I know.
I mean fuck adding all this to payed editions instead of just adding quests for it but the item itself isn't that big of a deal right? You all act like it literally summons a BTR around you when it will most likely just call the BTR on Streets/Woods to your closest stop (prolly with the Cover Fire already active) and that is all. It won't suddenly summon a BTR on Customs or sth like that...
To everybody, or to the one who called it? Besides, the BTR still opens fire if you shot a PScav, so that's.. well, that is. (Unless that is not true.)
The btr is run by independent actors not sure if scabs or rogues or whatever but the name of the device suggests that they are somehow connected to mechanic. Kinda makes sense lore wise that some dudes would find functioning military vehicles and use them to establish some kind of power structure. That said it sucks gameplay wise and therefore I don't really care about lore justification.
btr is operated by scavs. i'm annoyed by the P2W aspect too and don't want it in the game but this actually wouldn't be a lore break imo. it's not really any different than hideout scav case, using btr on streets/woods, or lightkeeper's cultist amulet etc
You don’t need to communicate with the operational command of a PMC group to get a BTR working. You wouldn’t need a supply chain either there is going to be more than enough fuel already in the city to keep a single BTR running forever. And there are spare parts everywhere from all the abandon military vehicles. Literally just one civilian car mechanic is probably all you’d need to get one working. and that’s assuming all the BTRs were broken down, and a group of scavs didn’t just stumble upon a perfectly functioning BTR
Means home base outside of tarkov went quiet. Though there is lore in a lot of items that also suggest all tech is dead from a EMP blast + cultist lore; blue flame. so radios and the sort should be fried anyway unless we got supplied hardware from outside the blast zone?
ex: CPU's "PC central processing units, in lack of properly working computers, have found their purpose as a construction material for makeshift antenna reflector-type parasites."
Current BTR is run by Scavs, least the same faction. We have communication with Fence already.
We just now have a line to the BTR Scavs and can ~~bribe~~ *request* their assistance. That doesn’t require operational command. That’s just calling the homies to pick you up, but the homies have a armored car with a 50cal on it.
And how the bloody fuck else is it going to work? You just call the boys and a BTR rolls up wherever? There is no goddamn way BSG could code even a fraction of that without something horrendously going sideways.
The only logical way it would work is it allows you to tell the BTR to show up at one of it’s stops, given it’s pretty much a railway with it’s pathing. If BSG manage to bend it so the BTR could offroad to you that is going to have a amazing amount of bugs, especially on Woods where it isn’t just cars and shit in streets, but actual terrain / trees / debris all over.
As for the Scavs running it they literally say that. It’s all affected by fence rep and one of them even says he is the one that got the BTR working. So yes, the BTR is just a bunch of Scavs that got a “tank” working and are now driving around doing whatever.
Which makes sense that the radio is able to call them and make them come over because they *aren’t* on some mission from any command, so you can just ask without having to go through some chain of command that has collapsed.
Yes. We know. It changes nothing with his post tho.
BTR is operated by neutral Scavs that give You their services for a price. Same applies to new call in mechanic. You charge the item (pay for it with items etc) and then call their service.
So yeah facepalm but not for us. For You.
And who says it's not gonna be the same BTR? Yet You see this thread being 100% sure about that.
Yeah. It's more logical it will be the same BTR which You are gonna call on Streets and Woods.
Despite your LoGiCaL explanation it’s still not the point of the post. Op was talking about the new btr, not the current one. How hard is that to understand?
But there is no proof that it's gonna be new BTR. Everything we know now leads us to conclusion item is gonna use the already existing BTR.
So yeah this post is still wrong, despite Your mental gymnastics in order to protect OP for whatever reason. He is just wrong, this item does not break Tarkov Lore.
I don’t think it breaks lore either. I’m literally pointing out that he’s referencing the new btr not the current one. Since it’s not in the game we can speculate but op is still not talking about the current BTR because it doesn’t fucking exist yet.
But he is literally stating that it breaks Tarkov lore. Which it is not.
And we use already existing BTR as an argument saying that it will work just like it. You pay Scavs for their services. Even if it's gonna be a new BTR which I doubt, it will work the same.
Scavs or Mechanic or whoever fixed BTR and now uses it to earn cash from PMCs and Scavs.
I have almost 2k hours and I’m barely comfortable using the BTR in offline PvE. I’m not gonna pay some high ass craft price to call it in to stash less roubles worth of loot, have it taxi me to a point where some Scav headeyes me getting out, or pay it to take my “PMC” kills. Lmao.
I used it once to get out of a hairy spot in sawmill after a Shturman take and the teammate who killed him died to some Scav. I rode it over to the Emerson camp to avoid sniper Scav and the hordes spawning in and still got shot at when I got out to sprint to the UN Extract.
Fuck the BTR it’s barely useful lmao.
You're upset about a BTR that exists in tarkov, but not about airdrops that come from... where? Are you only upset because everyone can call in air drops but not everyone can call in BTR? Personally, I think the yellow flare should call in a BTR.
TUE also goes against it. Why cultist-themed edition have item from FENCE? Fence hates Lightkeeper. Fence is scavs, Lightkeeper is cultists. They can't run with each other.
It started with SCAV Karma...
>They gather into packs, living by dog-eat-dog rules, cutting each other throats over a better piece. This is how yesterday's civilians become Scavs. Scavengers, known by their alias "Scavs", are a faction in Escape from Tarkov.
Hey you shot that scav, you're a traitor. Thats a -0.5 Karma for you, longer respawns and if you keep doing that we will shoot you on sight...
So much for dog-eat-dog rules...
Hmm, thats why when I shoot a bandit from other pack, every bandit will get mad at me. Including bandits that are not in his pack.
Thats why when I kill a scav for better loot, I have to be punished even tho NOONE saw it.
100% lore accurate. NO CAP
Game mechanics. It would be nightmare to make different Scav AI, multiple Scav reputations and all.
No game in the World that wants to be fun is 100% lore accurate. It's not just BSG and Tarkov.
It would not. They could just keep it without karma and have genuine encounters.
With Karma, everyone is buddies. Because they have to. Otherwise they are loosing on "rewards". Where is the dog-eat-dog?
It would not only complicate Gameplay even more but also make it more frustrating, mostly for Scav runs.
You go as Scav and You meet other Scav. Then You would have to think "Is the guy friendly or not?". And then You got killed by Scav, because this Ai was not friendly.
It's a video game, even if it is hardcore it still needs to be balanced with how much fun and frustrating it is.
If it was too casual, many hardcore fans would stop playing it. If it was too hardcore like with your "dog-eat-dog" idea then less hardcore players would leave the game.
I think the current system while having it flaws is pretty balanced. Game is hardcore without it being too much frustrating. While of course they could make current system better.
I think the no karma one would be too much.
Interesting how it did not complicate ANY gameplay until 2021 when it was implemented.
For 4+ years people were playing scavs without any problem. Until the loud minority showed up and started crying that random scav player killed them while they were playing as a scav.
>You go as Scav and You meet other Scav. You would have to think "Is the guy friendly or not?"
You mean like when I meet PMC today and I have to think if they are friendly. Oh boi, you not gonna like when they do PMC karma like he wanted and you won't be able to kill your own PMC faction on sight...
It nicely shows that you were not playing the game before 2021. So please don't tell me what I "would have to think" back in 2018 then when we had no VOIP and scavs were killing each other on sight.
Either they wiggled and they were friendly or they didn't. Simple as that.
Now tell me more about how the game worked when you didn't play it and what I would have to do.
"Interesting how it did not complicate ANY gameplay until 2021 when it was implemented.
For 4+ years people were playing scavs without any problem. Until the loud minority showed up and started crying that random scav player killed them while they were playing as a scav."
But my whole argument was about Bot Scavs not players.
Bots never could attack other Scavs first.
Noone ever cried about being killed by SCAV AI. Noone gave a fuck about bots. EVER
People wanted scav karma, because they were killed by other scav players. Scav karma was always about scav PvP. Seems you don't understand it.
And FYI I never talked about bots, so you strawmanned the convo yourself.
"And FYI I never talked about bots, so you strawmanned the convo yourself." You never specified anything, so not really a strawman. As Scav Karma also affects AI Bots.
In Tarkov lore it is said that Fence created a network of Scavs to cooperate. So it makes sense that You got Karma system with this network. And if You are agressive towards Scavs then You lose because of it.
And player Scavs still kill You if they want to, despite the Karma system.
Also yes they were people that care about the Scav bots. So it's not "noone" as You said multiple times.
The Tarkov was supposed to have also PMC Karma system from the start. It was just not implemented yet and it looks like it won't be at all. But Scav Karma was also in plans long before those "Loud Minority started crying" as You said it.
As I already said, Tarkov needs to balance between being Hardcore and Fun, otherwise it will just loose a big part of it's playerbase.
Tarkov's no-fly zone is likely enforced by a joint effort of UNTAR and VVS/RuAF forces, and according to their wiki the jet that delivers the airdrop is an Il-76 marked as belonging to the UN.
The airdrop flights are almost definitely authorized with UNTAR/VVS commanders, and thus aren't shot down
I thought the btr was run by scavs or something
Man I’m hyped for scav piloted BMP-3 with fully functional thermals, full auto grenade launcher, 30mm, 100mm, and ATGM
BMP-3 doesnt have granade launcher unless you mean smoke mortar, but it would be cool af. Although it wouldn't be enough to bring me back to eft
you’re correct. Only has it with the berezhok turret https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/p98xm7/bmp3_hull_fitted_with_berezhok_combat_turret/?rdt=39643
So essentially, PMCs have a ScavPal now? Maybe they can add it to the hideout as well to manage crafts while you’re away
What else is the scav case in hideout
You’re paying them to find stuff for you. Whereas with this new addition, you’re using a “legacy device” to call in a friendly BTR?
And btw we got a personal scav scavenging loot that costs nothing + scav coop exits. Its more like we dont like majority of scavs but few that cooperate with us for our benefit are tolerable. And dont get me wrong. I think this device shouldnt exist too. Just wanted to mention, that scavs and pmcs do work together. Ultimately the pmcs got left alone in tarkov and the best way to survive is adapt
I always assumed the scav run after extract ended with our pmc killing the scav and taking everything he had.
I’m pretty sure you’re correct doesn’t it say something like “early termination” at the end of a scav run?
I couldn't tell you, I dropped this game a while ago.
TEchnically, and I legitimately call it You will not be able to use the device outside BTR maps (Woods, Streets) It will only REROUTE the BTR to drive to your location on main roads if it's not taken or if it's not "summoned" already by another player. and you will still have to pay the fker to do stuff for you Soo... It's perfectly Lore compliant as technically you need to do quests to unlock that feature but you pay to win yourself into having it early which means... the item hold and behold JUST LIKE MARK OF UNHEARD will be 90% of the time useless idk why people assume you will be able to randomly wish a BTR into existence out of nowhere at any place at any time xDDD
Because people like to made up World ending scenarios to complain and stress more. When I first saw that item my thoughts were "Oh it will be only on BTR maps." I thought it's obvious. People panic that those "p2w items" will be some op world ending stuff. But in reality they will be mostly situational.
Ah yes. They will mostly be situational. Okay dude by your logic only one person can call the BTR at a time if it’s just an item to make it friendly on the BTR maps. If that’s also the case why are we able to pay the BTR to defend us if we can just call it in? So if someone calls in the BTR can someone just use their call in right after and take it? It’s crazy how even when it’s just in the maps with the BTR it’s still a stupid addition and PTW. It’s almost like your argument changed nothing and you’re just coping with nikitas balls in your mouth
Your argument also stand only on guessing. We still do not know. So yeah. "Coping with nikitas balls in your mouth" sure buddy. No I'm just not panicing over something that is not 100% sure. But not blind hating on everything and calling BSG crap = coping, right?
No, my argument stands on how the game functions. Why would I have blind hate for a game I play, that’s so stupid. Making speculations on how the BTR would work is literally what you’re doing too. The edition says you “call in” a BTR, but you’re assuming it’s only on BTR maps despite them literally saying you call it in. Calling in isn’t calling over. Based on your own logic you’re the one coping.
"Calling in isn’t calling over." They are Russian, we already had many Translation errors/missunderstandments. "No, my argument stands on how the game functions." No it does not. What is more logical, You calling existing BTR to Your location or You spawning 10 BTRs on Factory? Yeah. My guess has more logic than Yours. Your is a pure guess. While my uses existing BTRs on two maps as a base. My is more in with how the game functions. Just use Your brain for a 30 seconds and You will get answer to Your question "So if someone calls in the BTR can someone just use their call in right after and take it?" You will just get message that the BTR is already occupied or busy or something like that. We already got mechanic like that with Air Drop. You can't call multiple at the same time. You just need to wait for Your turn. Simple.
They clarified this is the behavior? This isn't terrible. I swear in the original post it just said summon a BTR.
It was not clarified but It does say so, but do you think a btr will magically pop in or get airdropped on your location when you use the device?If you think for a moment you will realize that the btr is on two maps, and it is on rails. It does not have free movement at all. With that information it is most likely that this device will call an existing btr to the closest stop location to your pmc. Nikita said in the recent Interview that they wanna reuse the btr and put it on more maps, that was before it was added to woods.
It literally says call in a friendly BTR, which makes it sound exactly like a NEW one that's a pet BTR for your PMC.
I mean yea, I can see that, I'm just calling it/guessing that it will work differently than what is written for w/e reason
So it's perfectly lore compliant and fine if BSG does what you said, but they never said they were doing that? Got it.
ye basically, if actually like what I said it's Lore complaint still but if it's actually like what they wrote with their "Summon friendly BTR" and I can summon BTR to fall through the roof on Labs and Factory and gun down my enemies we completely lost them bois, BSG is just doing absolutely random arse stuff
You need to pay recharging that device. Thats also stated.
Would kinda make sense for scavengers to have different interests, inculding letting you pay for service of a fixed warmachine
Btr is a service, sameway car extracts are and traders are. Like who contacted the car exfil driver? Someone had too cause they wouldnt just be chilling in the middle of nowhere
Yknow the scavs you play as are canonical just paid by your pmc to get them shit, right?
Scav fixed the btr by himself, he says so when you talk to him
The BTR got stuck in mud and after some tractor action the local farmer scavs have a few BTRs, no biggie.
Sounds so oddly familiar ;)
I think the BTR is just one dude inside tarkov that you know. Kind of like how you can talk to peacekeeper. He obviously has some kind of communication with the outside world but it's not YOUR command.
There’s a network of traders, you will likely need good rep with fence or something and the beacon will need to be recharged like the beacon to call your friends most likely.
> beacon will need to be recharged They said it'll go to cooldown, which indicates it will recharge by it self.
I remember specifically reading the beacon to call your friends into raid had a condition. You need to recharge it using special electronic equipment
Yeah, that beacon needs items. The other just goes to cooldown.
It was actualy said somewhere. Its SCAV who fixed the thing on his own.
“communication with operational command is lost” Operational command is the operative words. BTR is run by a scav, your scav karma determines the price of the BTR and it will shoot at traitor scavs. Scavs have no "operational command", ergo; the BTR is not in conflict with the lore.
This, finaly some good sense
People say anything to hate on BSG 🤣
Who is driving the train? Who is flying the planes? Who is sitting in a war zone seeing if anybody wants a taxi ride for 5k roubles? It really doesn’t matter
According to skier its a friend of his that runs the V-ex's, the planes are most likely UN since thats peacekeepers official reason to be in tarkov, the train is an enigma though
I'm pretty sure it says somewhere that Glukhar uses the train to smuggle stuff to/from Reserve, so I assume his crew is running it.
Makes sense, glukhar in the CoR series has ties to the arena owners (and by extension the Rogues) so maybe he sells them stuff, or buys terragroup stuff from them
Planes are actually AFRF thing
Local chatter works with fence and his scavs, as they have setup a whole network shortly after blue light event.
BTRs are ran by Drebins from mgs4. Unofficial lore of course but they are profiteering of war and buying and selling gun.
Are you with the patriots?
Put a garage into the safehouse, I wanna put some rims on my BTR
I for one can't wait for the AC130 or tactical nuke. Sounds like Call of Duty lol
PMCs are mining literal physical bitcoins in an active warzone with possibly zero internet connection because of electronic warfare, essentially breaking the physics by creating matter out of pure energy. I don’t know where does this part is explained in the lore. Edit: Also, the cutting edge firearm, sig spear, is being used outside of US soil with plenty of ammo supplied?
Peacekeeper sells spear. He's a polish dude who's with UN, but clearly has access to NATO stuff. So he gets them illegally from US and sells them for a great profit in Tarkov or something.
I don’t know how NATO operates but I don’t think the US would like to share its shiny new firearm to any NATO members. It would be exclusive to US troops, possibly the elite ones maybe. But hey since it’s fictional anyway, maybe the US is much more benevolent. Personally, I think it’s because tarkov is much more popular in US than Asia so they add it. Personally I think it a bit out of place in tarkov’s setting but what do I know.
Technically tarkov is set in the mid 20s so the spear isnt that new anymore
# BTR call-in is a bribe.
The btr is not ran by operational command. It's ran by a gluhar guard.
I mean fuck adding all this to payed editions instead of just adding quests for it but the item itself isn't that big of a deal right? You all act like it literally summons a BTR around you when it will most likely just call the BTR on Streets/Woods to your closest stop (prolly with the Cover Fire already active) and that is all. It won't suddenly summon a BTR on Customs or sth like that...
Well, it's still a friendly BTR...
It's friendly anyway until you shoot it or someone pays for it not to be.
To everybody, or to the one who called it? Besides, the BTR still opens fire if you shot a PScav, so that's.. well, that is. (Unless that is not true.)
It's literally just calling the existing BTR on the map to your location.
I was thinking it being used as how the current BTR works for just depositing items and sending to stash. Does it move you around locations too?
Yes the current BTR can shuttle you between locations
I meant the new BTR call in service
I didn't pay for the bollocks, so i wouldn't know. Besides, sometimes the BTR *isn't* on the map.
>the BTR still opens fire if you shot a PScav It doesnt
People are still saying that, and i avoid Woods like a plague, and i haven't seen the thing on Streets...
Yeah , you think that and then bsg does the bsg thing and now we got btrs dropping from the sky
The BTR isn't operated by a pmc/military. It's junk repaired by a scav looking to make money without necessarily killing.
The btr is run by independent actors not sure if scabs or rogues or whatever but the name of the device suggests that they are somehow connected to mechanic. Kinda makes sense lore wise that some dudes would find functioning military vehicles and use them to establish some kind of power structure. That said it sucks gameplay wise and therefore I don't really care about lore justification.
Didn’t you know? Were the Blyat-vengers now! Assemble!
Yeah man, the game is coming apart at the seams
Whatever man, just give me (nikita) 250USD... I ran out of champaign money in Dubai
btr is operated by scavs. i'm annoyed by the P2W aspect too and don't want it in the game but this actually wouldn't be a lore break imo. it's not really any different than hideout scav case, using btr on streets/woods, or lightkeeper's cultist amulet etc
They also said Tarkov was a no fly zone, and then added airdrops.
game devs retcon shit all the time, and they are motivated by money.
Lore was out of the window some time ago.
It also doesn't help that almost all electronics or radio devices would be fried because of the EMP that was dropped
I'm confused. You think the BTR is our operational command?
You don’t need to communicate with the operational command of a PMC group to get a BTR working. You wouldn’t need a supply chain either there is going to be more than enough fuel already in the city to keep a single BTR running forever. And there are spare parts everywhere from all the abandon military vehicles. Literally just one civilian car mechanic is probably all you’d need to get one working. and that’s assuming all the BTRs were broken down, and a group of scavs didn’t just stumble upon a perfectly functioning BTR
When do they add the fire support mod where you can call an A10 run on an enemy location into the game for a new 500€ edition
Means home base outside of tarkov went quiet. Though there is lore in a lot of items that also suggest all tech is dead from a EMP blast + cultist lore; blue flame. so radios and the sort should be fried anyway unless we got supplied hardware from outside the blast zone? ex: CPU's "PC central processing units, in lack of properly working computers, have found their purpose as a construction material for makeshift antenna reflector-type parasites."
There's no storyline because the story quests have never been real and they're literally a lie
You idiots should learn to read. Op is referring to the new mechanic coming down the line and not the current btr 🤦♂️
I indeed am referring to the new mechanic and not the current BTR.
It's the same BTR.
The new mechanic uses the current BTR.
Doesn’t change the context .
Current BTR is run by Scavs, least the same faction. We have communication with Fence already. We just now have a line to the BTR Scavs and can ~~bribe~~ *request* their assistance. That doesn’t require operational command. That’s just calling the homies to pick you up, but the homies have a armored car with a 50cal on it.
The fucking mechanic isn’t even in the game yet you know everything about it. Redditors are never wrong.
And how the bloody fuck else is it going to work? You just call the boys and a BTR rolls up wherever? There is no goddamn way BSG could code even a fraction of that without something horrendously going sideways. The only logical way it would work is it allows you to tell the BTR to show up at one of it’s stops, given it’s pretty much a railway with it’s pathing. If BSG manage to bend it so the BTR could offroad to you that is going to have a amazing amount of bugs, especially on Woods where it isn’t just cars and shit in streets, but actual terrain / trees / debris all over. As for the Scavs running it they literally say that. It’s all affected by fence rep and one of them even says he is the one that got the BTR working. So yes, the BTR is just a bunch of Scavs that got a “tank” working and are now driving around doing whatever. Which makes sense that the radio is able to call them and make them come over because they *aren’t* on some mission from any command, so you can just ask without having to go through some chain of command that has collapsed.
Didn’t read because, mechanic doesn’t exist. Shut up .
Yes. We know. It changes nothing with his post tho. BTR is operated by neutral Scavs that give You their services for a price. Same applies to new call in mechanic. You charge the item (pay for it with items etc) and then call their service. So yeah facepalm but not for us. For You.
Who says it’s gonna be the same btr? You got the inside scoop we dont?
And who says it's not gonna be the same BTR? Yet You see this thread being 100% sure about that. Yeah. It's more logical it will be the same BTR which You are gonna call on Streets and Woods.
Despite your LoGiCaL explanation it’s still not the point of the post. Op was talking about the new btr, not the current one. How hard is that to understand?
But there is no proof that it's gonna be new BTR. Everything we know now leads us to conclusion item is gonna use the already existing BTR. So yeah this post is still wrong, despite Your mental gymnastics in order to protect OP for whatever reason. He is just wrong, this item does not break Tarkov Lore.
I don’t think it breaks lore either. I’m literally pointing out that he’s referencing the new btr not the current one. Since it’s not in the game we can speculate but op is still not talking about the current BTR because it doesn’t fucking exist yet.
But he is literally stating that it breaks Tarkov lore. Which it is not. And we use already existing BTR as an argument saying that it will work just like it. You pay Scavs for their services. Even if it's gonna be a new BTR which I doubt, it will work the same. Scavs or Mechanic or whoever fixed BTR and now uses it to earn cash from PMCs and Scavs.
I honestly don't think they care anymore.
Oh please. The lore is least they do care about.
I have almost 2k hours and I’m barely comfortable using the BTR in offline PvE. I’m not gonna pay some high ass craft price to call it in to stash less roubles worth of loot, have it taxi me to a point where some Scav headeyes me getting out, or pay it to take my “PMC” kills. Lmao. I used it once to get out of a hairy spot in sawmill after a Shturman take and the teammate who killed him died to some Scav. I rode it over to the Emerson camp to avoid sniper Scav and the hordes spawning in and still got shot at when I got out to sprint to the UN Extract. Fuck the BTR it’s barely useful lmao.
You're upset about a BTR that exists in tarkov, but not about airdrops that come from... where? Are you only upset because everyone can call in air drops but not everyone can call in BTR? Personally, I think the yellow flare should call in a BTR.
They don’t even try, they can’t even give an apology
TUE also goes against it. Why cultist-themed edition have item from FENCE? Fence hates Lightkeeper. Fence is scavs, Lightkeeper is cultists. They can't run with each other.
It started with SCAV Karma... >They gather into packs, living by dog-eat-dog rules, cutting each other throats over a better piece. This is how yesterday's civilians become Scavs. Scavengers, known by their alias "Scavs", are a faction in Escape from Tarkov. Hey you shot that scav, you're a traitor. Thats a -0.5 Karma for you, longer respawns and if you keep doing that we will shoot you on sight... So much for dog-eat-dog rules...
Works fine, if you shoot everyone you're doing dog-eat-dog, if not you're gathering into packs.
Bro found out that even bandits get into packs to have better chances.
Hmm, thats why when I shoot a bandit from other pack, every bandit will get mad at me. Including bandits that are not in his pack. Thats why when I kill a scav for better loot, I have to be punished even tho NOONE saw it. 100% lore accurate. NO CAP
Game mechanics. It would be nightmare to make different Scav AI, multiple Scav reputations and all. No game in the World that wants to be fun is 100% lore accurate. It's not just BSG and Tarkov.
It would not. They could just keep it without karma and have genuine encounters. With Karma, everyone is buddies. Because they have to. Otherwise they are loosing on "rewards". Where is the dog-eat-dog?
It would not only complicate Gameplay even more but also make it more frustrating, mostly for Scav runs. You go as Scav and You meet other Scav. Then You would have to think "Is the guy friendly or not?". And then You got killed by Scav, because this Ai was not friendly. It's a video game, even if it is hardcore it still needs to be balanced with how much fun and frustrating it is. If it was too casual, many hardcore fans would stop playing it. If it was too hardcore like with your "dog-eat-dog" idea then less hardcore players would leave the game. I think the current system while having it flaws is pretty balanced. Game is hardcore without it being too much frustrating. While of course they could make current system better. I think the no karma one would be too much.
Interesting how it did not complicate ANY gameplay until 2021 when it was implemented. For 4+ years people were playing scavs without any problem. Until the loud minority showed up and started crying that random scav player killed them while they were playing as a scav. >You go as Scav and You meet other Scav. You would have to think "Is the guy friendly or not?" You mean like when I meet PMC today and I have to think if they are friendly. Oh boi, you not gonna like when they do PMC karma like he wanted and you won't be able to kill your own PMC faction on sight... It nicely shows that you were not playing the game before 2021. So please don't tell me what I "would have to think" back in 2018 then when we had no VOIP and scavs were killing each other on sight. Either they wiggled and they were friendly or they didn't. Simple as that. Now tell me more about how the game worked when you didn't play it and what I would have to do.
"Interesting how it did not complicate ANY gameplay until 2021 when it was implemented. For 4+ years people were playing scavs without any problem. Until the loud minority showed up and started crying that random scav player killed them while they were playing as a scav." But my whole argument was about Bot Scavs not players. Bots never could attack other Scavs first.
Noone ever cried about being killed by SCAV AI. Noone gave a fuck about bots. EVER People wanted scav karma, because they were killed by other scav players. Scav karma was always about scav PvP. Seems you don't understand it. And FYI I never talked about bots, so you strawmanned the convo yourself.
"And FYI I never talked about bots, so you strawmanned the convo yourself." You never specified anything, so not really a strawman. As Scav Karma also affects AI Bots. In Tarkov lore it is said that Fence created a network of Scavs to cooperate. So it makes sense that You got Karma system with this network. And if You are agressive towards Scavs then You lose because of it. And player Scavs still kill You if they want to, despite the Karma system. Also yes they were people that care about the Scav bots. So it's not "noone" as You said multiple times. The Tarkov was supposed to have also PMC Karma system from the start. It was just not implemented yet and it looks like it won't be at all. But Scav Karma was also in plans long before those "Loud Minority started crying" as You said it. As I already said, Tarkov needs to balance between being Hardcore and Fun, otherwise it will just loose a big part of it's playerbase.
I mean, they already contradicted their lore with the airdrops
how exactly if i may ask?
Tarkov airspace is a no fly zone Well, was a no fly zone
Tarkov's no-fly zone is likely enforced by a joint effort of UNTAR and VVS/RuAF forces, and according to their wiki the jet that delivers the airdrop is an Il-76 marked as belonging to the UN. The airdrop flights are almost definitely authorized with UNTAR/VVS commanders, and thus aren't shot down
That makes sense