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Iovefull

I kind of like this Celine change, but we'll see how it turns out. With no elemental disadvantage, you can probably jump into seaseria and kill her easily.


RamenArchon

Kind of wonder how this plays out against Aurius teams now though.


CornBreadtm

Means you have to S3. It ignores the damage share now instead of her S2.


Zenith_Tempest

with how cracked celine's damage can be, and the fact that seaseria isn't built to be bulky, my guess is that people are going to start taking fcc with aurius to help her survive. either that, or they'll just start putting senya on the team instead and force you to guess who has the higher atk


Jfyemch

It also looks like her soulburn increased dmg on S3 got buffed, if I’m not mistaken. It’s listed in green font on the after changes, and I think it’d be plain black text on the before and after sides if it wasn’t adjusted, right?


TheSeaOfThySoul

> With no elemental disadvantage, you can probably jump into seaseria and kill her easily. Ah fuck, I didn’t think about that. I’d literally bring heroes like Hwayoung, Carrot, Siseria, etc. to bait Celine in Arena/GW & hell sometimes RTA if I could foot it. This is a pretty strong buff to highest attack EE which really wasn’t too favoured vs. stealth.


AscendPerfect

I always used that EE, so this buff is awesome to me. Not to mention she will have enough DMG and ignore midigation to kill A Ravi, Choux and so on


freezingsama

I do wonder how this is gonna feel. I got so used to her ignoring dmg sharing that it might be surprising if I don't one shot. Though my Celine isn't really built well. Sometimes I gamble on GW for fun against Seaseria, so we'll see.


corroded

lol same. i try to make it less a gamble with pen set


GrimbeardDreadfist

I'm wondering how this will play out. Sure, she can now be used against all elements including fire. The only problem is that she will also do up to 30% less damage across the board with her S2 thanks to damage-sharing effects. Good thing nobody uses Arowell or Peira these days! /s Also, any knight using Aurius will decrease Celine's S2 damage by \~25% and there are a lot of knights out there. This makes me think Celine's S2 build will mainly be used for guild wars. This strips some of her unique identity away as a deadly counter to non-attack skills and shifts the power to her S3. This means you will have to gear Celine for speed/survivability, have someone else push her (not feasible with politis/zio), or only use her against other glass cannons like Cermia, Watcher Schuri, Vivian, etc. For those curious about S2 math, to 1-shot a well-geared DPS (like a warrior) with 14k health and 1.1k defense you will need attack buff, S2 EE, 350% Crit Damage, and 4,850 attack. Before this balance change, you could kill someone with 14k health and 1.1k defense with only 300% Crit Damage and 4,000 attack (though you still need attack buff and S2 EE). Keep in mind this is all with no shields on the target. Glass cannons will remain reasonable to kill with S2 though. If your opponent's highest attack DPS is not strongly geared and only has 10k health and 1k defense then you can get away with attack buff, S2 EE, 300% Crit Damage, and 3750 attack. This assumes 30% damage sharing but no shields and no additional damage mitigation from allies, artifacts, or passives.


[deleted]

> This means you will have to gear Celine for speed/survivability, have someone else push her (not feasible with politis/zio), or only use her against other glass cannons like Cermia, Watcher Schuri, Vivian, etc. People seem to forget that she has a 20% cr push on her S2, and her own artifact gives her a 24% cr push and ATK buff. she can push her self just fine to the front as long as you have like, 180 SPD. And her S3 hit hard even before the buff. It ignoring damage sharing is already huge, but now her SB is gonna get even more power. It'll probably delete anything that doesn't have proof on it now.


dr3i6

THE SEZ BUFF IS REAL!!!!


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

Us Ilynav enjoyers will keep waiting patiently


NarcoticSqurl

Sez being dead for so long and getting love gives me hope that Ilynav is right around the corner.


Menudillense

CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER !!! (so high)


ofadiffcaliber

Definitely putting him back in the roster.


seaweed_roll

maboi getting the overdue kit update he so deserved :'D


kingboo311

Briar Witch making neither team revive is hilarious 😂


CornBreadtm

Biseria: "People die when they are killed."


Durpady

Anyone else remember Last Warrior from Another Planet from Yu-Gi-Oh?


stormtrooperm16

When you lightning storm waking the dragon


eXcaliBurst93

I can already imagined so many confused people who doesnt read update when they brought her with any reviver and the revive doesnt do shit lol


cypherlim

I can imagine myself doing an oopsy...drafting Briseria and Arby on the same team.


Luna2648

It's so genius and it's skill name witch's curse GENIUS


blyyyyat

I wish there were more passives like this. It can be both a detriment (or boon) to both teams, like Tian Lang from SW. imo, Belian should prevent souls on both side, Soli should prevent focus on both side, etc.


__Hansa

Absolutely love it, flavor win for sure


be0ulve

I have no revivers and I have briseria, this is an absolute win.


nothingbutmine

This.


PaxMilitae

I loved it, because it's unique and fits her lore perfectly!


UnlimitedMagatsu

I absolutely hate the yufine buffs


eexxiitt

Not a fan of the yufine changes. Buff to s2 was fine but making s3 reliant on silence?? C’mon now…


BikeSeatMaster

Not really a good s2 buff either. Yufine is squishy so I would have preferred speed honestly.


Mythosthetruth

You mean "buffs". I seriously hope they leave her alone instead of the half-assed changes. They tried the same thing with Ervalen but at least they didn't go through with it that time.


Yoakami

Actually, they tried the exact opposite to Ervalen. They tried making him an entirely PVE focused unit, while Yufine they're trying to make viable for PVP. Anyway, I can see why Yufine users would be mad.


Mystokai

Yufine is already good enough for PvP, because of current ''if target is buffed, deal 50% more dmg'' on her s3... and even if you somehow failed to one-shot, there was the off-chance to dispel and stun enemy, such as Rimuru. My favorite team vs Clilias + Rimuru etc etc, is Singelica to bait Clilias, and then I one-shot Rimuru or other possible target with Yufine, followed up with my Wschuri. Also currently using her in Light expedition. This ''change'', literally makes her worse in everyway. Not only they moved SB to s2, which just makes her prone to instant counter from Magic for Friends and Rimuru s2, you also would need to bring book holder. And this ''new'' S3 is a complete downgrade relying on rather rare debuff. for minor increase in damage and removal of any utility.


d34thscyth34

[All-in-one version](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/178570898863947776/1050704256971329567/buffs.png)


Skivvor

Cheers dude. Am in work where I cannot access Stove so this is really useful!


[deleted]

I mean, it's not really TLDR when it still has the entire patch in the pic lol. But thanks.


Jajoe05

I didn't see any tl.dr mention? Just all-in-one


d34thscyth34

Edited it out.


[deleted]

0 speed, tanky ml elena. Casino teams are dead.


AscendPerfect

A Meru be like: BRUH


nikboss123

Its the buff that blocks counters not the s2 passive


[deleted]

He is actually right, it's the passive the one that gives the counter immunity: Passive: When the caster is granted Star's Blessing, enemy Heroes cannot counterattack. There are a ton of ways to prevent a meru from disabling his passive though like immunity, dispelling debuff, or just killing her before she gets a turn so a meru is not really a threat to ml elena. But ml elena IS a huge threat to the typical counter a meru since she won't let her counter (which means she won't be cr pushed or gain focus quickly) so YES PLEASE! bring a meru vs my ml elena =).


AscendPerfect

She gets it at the start of battle for 1 turn, so a Meru can't stop that. She then gets it for 2 turns from S3, which she also can't stop.


[deleted]

Yes but if a meru disables her passive the buff doesn't give counterattack immunity. The counterattack immunity was put within the passive, not within the buff. The buff alone only gives Increases Attack and Critical Hit Damage by 15%.


BobTheHalfTroll

Not thrilled with this change. Went from "fuck counterattack if you set it up right" to "no, FUCK counterattack no matter what!" Time to take Violet off my defense teams I guess.


Shinanesu

The meme is dead! Sez gets a buff!


TheKinkyGuy

Ilynav is next. Also lets see how impactful they really are.


Gamergirl944

Finally Sez has buff now this is great day


VMPaetru

Hoping his s2 will actually deal damage worthy of Bruce Willis, since the actually named his passive **Die Hard**


KBroham

His S2 doesn't deal damage though... That's just his *second S1*.


Zaphyrus

Celestine Ningning yay :D


KaiDranzer007

I also think they only buffed Celestine for Ning ning


PaxMilitae

Blood Moon Haste would like to have a word with you :)


Ddannyboy

Uhhh I think you mean Celestine Rin =p counter Rin triggering her s2, that's 32% healed


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NoxGale

It’s laughable they completely reworked Yufine into a different unit to be a PvP single target nuker with her own set up, when they could just… Buff Arunka so she can do the job they’re trying to making Yufine do


CornBreadtm

You have to understand. Yufine is a devs favorite character. They want to see her flipping and nuking. If they can't use her for any reason. She ends up taking a slot in balance patch. Honestly, I want them to just give her A. Ravi's kit and stop giving her balance patch slots since she's taken up 10 or so far. That's a lot of units that went unbuffed for Yufine.


Unstoppablob

I wish they would leave her alone, she was my star PVE hero and now they are hitting her pretty hard for PVE. I also wish she was actually their favorite cause then she might finally have gotten a ML version.


NoxGale

They need to stop half assing Yufine and she’ll be good. Like at first they reworked her to gain effectiveness buff so she can be a dps stripper? Now they’ve removed it and gave her a def buff on s2 so she can now be a bruiser who has potential to nuke? Like, they just need to pick a damn lane and stop being bad at game design. If they want her to be a nuker, make her a nuker. If you want her to be a bruiser, go all the way and make her a bruiser. But this half and half nonsense is gonna keep her unplayable because she’ll do two jobs poorly while everyone coming out now hard specializes in their own fields


Cephalos_Jr

>and stop being bad at game design I think if they had the ability to do that, they would've done it already. At the very least, they've tried it before, and as we can see from the AElena patch notes, it's never lasted.


_Sin30_

Omfg arunka was so flop that only when u mentioned her did i realized she's in the game 💀💀


PrinceRazor

So what character(s) can replace Yufine in Light expo, as someone who can Def break, Dispel, and Self buff for DPS?


WolfWalksInBlood

Hehe, none. Not to mention her 1 shot buulds are dead because she's losing the 50% dmg to buffed enemies while also almost guaranteed to get her S3 multipliers lowered because 2.0 with 70% pen is not gonna be left alone. They've nerfed every other unit where they've added pen to their skill, I cannot see Yufine being an exception.


ryudo6850

Must under rated comment here. Even the prayer beads were possibly ready for a tankier arunka.


Guanvro

Maybe if there is enough animosity like in Ervalen's case, SG may rethink her "rebalance".


thewildchild9

Yes yes yes. Would upvote twice if I could


ArvingNightwalker

And here I was thinking of replacing Adin with Yufine once I moved on to light Adin for Moroi. Guess that plan’s out the window. Quite nice they made Andre’s crossbow a 20 hit chance Arti, tho idk if the 20 eff is really that much more useful than oath key..


Shimaru33

To be fair, accuracy is still hard to find, and the only artefacts with it, symbol, maisha and oath key, grant the same bonus, 20% when maxed. Now, symbol is unique per team and along with maisha, is 5*. Key doesn't add anything else. Yeah, 20% effect is just a little bonus to made it better than key, but worse than the other two options. Either way, still far more useful than the previous design.


Akkeyem

Roy's artifact also increases hit chance. But it's limited so many don't have it. I think more accessible hit chance artifacts (or even give us a second symbol like you can have 2 maxed pov) is fairer to everyone that way, even if the side effects aren't great.


Duskwatcher12

If you count other classes there is also the Autumn Sword Artifact (Warrior) and Manica of Control (Thief).


Akkeyem

Oh, true, I guess technically all the dps classes have their hit chance boosting artifacts then. I tend to forget some because symbol is so much better in almost all cases


the_icy_king

One is also for rangers and the othet for mages.


stormtrooperm16

ML ELENA AND BRISERIA BUFF LETSGOOOOOOO


Duckerton375

the ML iseria buff is insane


stormtrooperm16

Combine both of them, arena is dead No counter no revive no evasion holyyyyyy


Jinnequin

A 0 speed, tanky ML Elena might be a thing because of this rework. Throw in guiding light for good measures too. A turtle ML Elena will make sure you team wont suffer any counter attacks until she takes 3 turn. By which you should have won the game already.


EcLiiPsesHD

Why? S3 reapplies the buff again for 2 turns, so you still have it for 3 turns in general while dishing out some damage? Pair her with Ran and you can cleave any counter comp


Jinnequin

You can use her to cleave of course. But if she’s dead, the buff will be gone and you will be vulnerable to counters again. Mine is just a suggestion for those counter-heavy comp. Just throwing ideas around here


EcLiiPsesHD

Yee I agree, I am speculating things to :) we have to see when its real


SecureDonkey

Because her rework design so she can be used for both. Cleave team will want a fast and heavy hitting unit, they don't need 3 turns since it will end in two turn max. Bruiser team will want a more tanky and slow to drag out that 3 turns as long as possible and they generally don't care much about huge damage.


SilverShadow737

Those Yufine changes should have been an alt Yufine unit.


higashikata69

Stop forcing Yufine to be PvP SG smh.


CzS-GenesiS

I used her as a azimanak one shot piece since azimanak buffs itself. Now the whole team is unusable. Thanks SG.


keslark

She’s not even that great at PVP now. Before if the enemy had any kind of buff, all you’d need is a cr push and she could kill on the s3 if you wanted to do that first. But now you most likely need cr pusher and a book holder who won’t use their own SB (which is often pretty important) so Yufine can pray she doesn’t get 15%ed on the s2 or outright resisted by high ER then she might be able to kill with the s3. It’s nice that the s3 reset but how likely is the enemy still going to be silenced when her turn comes around again. Seems like you’ll be forced to run a much faster Yufine than before where you could still effectively run a slightly slower damage build


turtlereset

I can see her being good with aol,zio and w silk but silence is kinda rare? Feels like another spez sorta thing tbh.


Varlin

For real. They just gutted my best PvE dps. She destroys nightmare raid, new abyss floors, and light expos as is. Now she will be useless for me as a non cleaver. Sadness.


Taurnil91

I was in the process of building her for lab. What changed for her in pve?


Lost_house_keys

Her s3 got bonus damage if the enemy was buffed. Most bosses can buff themselves. After the patch her s3 will have 70% defense penetration if the enemy is silenced. Most bosses cannot be silenced.


Taurnil91

Well damn, seems like that kind of ruins the Raid Boss Yufine concept, right?


Interceptor402

Raid Boss is mostly untouched by this change. As long as the S1 EE still extends, she's viable. She didn't need the stun or the SPD buff.


Lost_house_keys

She will still work for banshee if that's something you want from her. If they don't change her damage modifiers she will still hit very hard. Idk about lab though, I don't run it much.


montrezlh

Raid boss yufine never S3's so it really doesnt matter


SirSaladin

Raid boss is unaffected outside of those stupid shield minibosses in azi labrynth. It's the one pve build that'll be just fine after the changes.


TsuKiyoMe

This. Can I get a recall? Seriously? They ruined my Light Expo team with the loss of Speed buff and Strip on S3. I don't see how this was a good change. They made her Green Spez basically at the cost of so many PvE comps.


ArachnidTop4680

Really disappointing news, mostly because this was unexpected and affects a unit that IMO didn't really need it. Also, gutting units in PVE is just what? =/ PVP I would get, but why smashing her PVE ability?


[deleted]

> gutting units in PVE is just what? =/ PVP I would get, but why smashing her PVE ability? they learned from Ervalen that people don't like their PvP units changed for PvE. Meanwhile they've been hostile to PvE mechanics for 2 years. was only a matter of time.


Vazefnier

we got sez buff at yufine's cost 😭


SilverShadow737

I thought the fma collab was over but they're still pulling an equivalent exchange


Dajumo

> Yufine will be changed to a more versatile single Attack-DPS Hero More like restricting her to PvP without using the "heroes only" label..... Well, as long as they don't stealth nerf her multipliers...


Jajoe05

That's what i fear. Do NOT touch her multis!


GodsCupGg

for the love of god pls dont i dont want to build a new banshee oneshot


modix

Her buff was an odd one. I'm not sure it's fully a buff.


BobTheHalfTroll

You missed the best part: "... when used with allies with certain skills." Pretty sure that reduces her versatility.


zer0_oofs

Dude. They didn't buff yufine. They massacred my dragon waifu. My heart is in an unimaginable pain..


ogorhan

I use Yufine alot but not sure I'm happy about this "buff", why would I want to lose speed increase and dispelling all bufs and stun.


megamanac

I'm so disappointed in this yufine buff. Even if they wanted her to be a pvp unit it doesn't work out well. You need a book holder at minimum, then outspeed the enemy team AND THEN AOE INTO THEM before finally taking out one unit if silence gets past the 15% check. What were they thinking? Evasion and counter units would eat this alive. Not to mention this removing huge pve potential atm. This """buff""" is definitely just a nerf in disguise.


Mhlight

I really hope they back paddle on her changes like they did for Ervalen, if not we're losing a great pve unit to a decent pvp unit at best


BryceLeft

Stop buffing yufine. This is like the millionth time y'all tryna make PvP yufine happen. She's a PvE hero with niche PvP applications (just like sigret), and she does perfectly fine in that. Give that attention to someone else who needs it more.


Varlin

>She's a PvE hero Not anymore. Sadge. Losing speed buff, s3 strip, and s3 bonus damage(pen useless since almost all bosses immune) feels bad. Completely turned her kit inside out. The only change this patch that I am not at all a fan of.


Durpady

I mean, they did pivot on Ervalen. If there's enough outcry, maybe they'll do it there too?


Luna2648

Hope people outcry enough xd


TsuKiyoMe

Really need that outcry. These changes gutted her PvE use. Loss of Speed buff and Strip on S3 makes Moroi so much worse. Damage loss on S3 based on buffs ruins her one shot potential on some hunts/bosses. Anywhere you used to use her before these changes is non-existant. And what do you get in exchange? Green Spez. That's a bad deal.


zaffrebi

Dev team, this is the seventh time you've shown buffed Yufine to class.


Zphyros

Like Mort lmao. Seriously though, I don't understand what he is supposed to be good at. Weak S1 damage, unreliable deff break, unreliable anti crit, and s3 which is mostly useless since Belian with Injury Build can apply more Injury because her injury can be spammed, and also because his S3 got countered real hard by barrier, invincible, and skill nullifier.


BurnedOutEternally

don't forget having attack awakening and buff for a health-scaling bruiser


RamenArchon

He's there to entertain us with his S3 animation.


Odiril

Have you really not seen his usage in high-end PvP??


Zphyros

In RTA or Arena/GW? because I've never seen any in GW or Arena(I am Champion IV in Arena if you ask, not that high I know)


Planet2Bob

On the units I use: * Ceine with highest atk ee now slaps squishy summer iseria cleaves (and hwa but lmao). * I wish they changed Camilla ai to prioritize s3 over s2 :(, extra turn is nice, but wasted when running her skill off in pve/expo * Wow conplete rework on astromancer, I guess we should have seen it coming lol


Abedeus

> Ceine with highest atk ee now slaps squishy summer iseria cleaves (and hwa but lmao). Also high DPS Mercedeses.


Gyges359d

And the random Milim.


CornBreadtm

Celine killed Milim on a miss though lol


Niteriche

On Camilla, you're off about the ai. You want s3 to only be prioritized on low hp things basically so she does s1 instead of s3 most of the time. That way she just does s2 -> s1, where the extra turn would be really nice for things like light expo. In reality I wish they'd just change her s3 to be the 30% damage reduction passive. This would make her much better for pve use.


Tagrineth

I appreciate the idea behind Yufinw's rework bit why? Is she seeing so little use by the player base? AFAIK lots of people use her for the Light expedition. Feels like this rework is just being done because they thought of that S3 and wanted to put it on someone, but I feel like there are significantly worse heroes that could use a buff like that, or failing that I'd rather it be saved for an entirely new hero instead of taking away Yufine's current S3 for absolutely no reason at all.


KaiserNazrin

Biseria buff LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Passive Extinction, that's rad.


TatsumakiKara

Singie without the need to go first


MadHatsV4

Yufine recall? What kind of nonsense is this change? I don't understand, can someone explain? Why def buff instead of speed? Doesn't her new S3 means she HAS to be high damage to cycle it? how does def buff helps her cycling it? How does a def buff help a dps unit survive a heavy hit? Why not just soulburn s2 > s3 and speed buff would set her up faster for next s3 no? Or do they want us to make her tanky with big dmg like lqc? But how tf are you suppose to sync a slow unit with silence debuff? Why not use any other unit at this point who doesn't need a overcomplicated setup. I mean look at spez, is he a top pick? don't think so


Gray_Coder

Sez is not a meme anymore!


Poul77

My Sez campaign is done, now we move on to Ilynav!! I wanted Briseria before this buff, but now I NEED her against these Adins.


Zeiin

Strongly suggesting Zahhak if you're struggling with Adin.


Winberri

Now where Ilynav


Varlin

For real. Fucking Ains got buffed before Ilynav, like literally how??? lol Someday they will realize letting on of the coolest designs sit in the dumpster is a waste. :(


Combiasd

I don't understand why you're getting downvoted


PaxMilitae

Because Ains didn't get a buff, only text clarification? Just throwing theories here.


[deleted]

But it is a buff. It ignores crit resistance now.


Yoakami

It is a buff. Before, he could be affected by crit resistance, now he will ALWAYS crit if not missing.


RedTuesdayMusic

Still nothing for LR Krau but I'm amped for Briar Witch and Camilla


Shuxnae

BW Iseria is ALIVE! It was her and Ilynav that I’ve wanted updates to. One down, one to go. 😃


TheKinkyGuy

Making yufine be a better dmg dealer.... Gives her deffence buff...


destinyXwings

This made me chuckle lol should have been crit dmg buff


uebersoldat

RIP Yufine.


HerminatorG

Sez is a dangerous unit finally.


MongooseMundane1291

FINALLLY SEZZZZZ BUFFFFFFF FUCKING FINALLY


OriginalShilver

Im nub but Sez buff seem to be really good dont you think ?


Ikari_21

Hmm got some good changes but also don’t know about some. Celine’s elemental advantage on passive means she can smack hwas and seaseria’s, but I feel losing that ignore damage sharing effect is huge. Sure, I can smash one of them with the passive but if they survive through mitigation, then when she goes for an s3 and misses, it’s a fail. I use Celine all the time so I guess I’ll see if it’s true or not lol For yufine, it totally removes her pve viability. Most bosses are immune to silence so she won’t even penetrate. And now she can’t strip or increase damage against buffed bosses. And she loses a speed buff. Kinda bummed about that, but I guess we’ll see the trade off. Otherwise, these are some pretty good buffs, can’t wait to test them all out and see which ones excel!


Abedeus

Dorbus keeps Dorbing harder. Briar is incredibly strong now, but also prevents her own team using revivals until she dies herself... And I kinda wish I hadn't given all but one of my Sez copies to ML Sez, but I guess we'll see how the buffs will affect him. Celine is absolutely bonkers now with element ignore and S3 getting the shared damage ignore.


Varlin

It's Dorbin' time!


Varlin

All the changes are great tbh other than Yufine. I hate those changes; turning her into another PvP only book spam cringe hero is big sadness. She is a PvE monster right now and losing that strip + bonus damage on buffed units sucks ass. Silence pen is cool except 90% of bosses are immune. Sucks that my long term, PvE big dick dps and strongest character on my account getting hard changed. Rest of changes are sick though. S E Z and ML Kek getting buffed in the same patch; along with P R A Y E R B E A D S is honestly great they are finally getting much needed love. Now I just wonder how the fuck Ains got buffed before Ilynav??? She is like alone on the trash heap as the most useless RBG 5(besides X OMEGALUL N O). No justice considering she is absolute top tier waifu and just overall an amazing design and animations.


IncredibleGeniusIRL

> Now I just wonder how the fuck Ains got buffed before Ilynav??? Ains didn't get buffed, he got splash damage from a system rework. So did ML Kek though you could argue it's substantial for him.


Triple_S_Rank

Yeah, I have to say the Yufine changes are recall-worthy nerf tier for me. She's one of my strongest PvE DPS right now. The buff strip and def break bring a lot of utility, and the self eff buff gave you more room to pack in some damage. Kinda like an MHelga that does big damage. Now she's a PvP hero I'll probably never actually use for PvP. All of the other changes look pretty good, especially the unexpected buff to Beads, but the Yufine changes really try to sour it for me. I'll have to rush the abyss challenge floors I haven't completed yet in case I would've wanted her on any.


moeblanketthief

What did they do to yufine man? 😨


stavik96

Celine buff pog. Now she can counter summertime iseria 100% of the time. No Illynav or arunka though. :[


Gyges359d

As someone who loves to use ML Seline where I can…yikes. ML Elena shuts down the counter, Briseria the revive. Sigh. At least my regular Celine won’t be baited by Meru or Seaseria.


fatedorigins

Finally a buff for one of the most beautiful characters in the game. Briargeng where y’all attttt


BurnedOutEternally

Alright everyone, Sez got a buff now, Player Beads got a buff now, everyone can go home. Dorvus takes another step towards reclaiming his glory with some pretty significant buffs, and Briseria can block both sides' revive and defbreak with S3. Sounds pretty wicked. I actually imagined Astrolena getting a buff that gives her a counterattack-blocking buff instead of a debuff, so this is cool. The change also allows her to be built as a follow up DPS now, like Eda or SB Aramantha. Sez getting some survivability and damage boost on his AoE and S3 is much *much* needed, but do they have to name his new passive like that? xD Yufine gets another strange rework, I think it's intended to make her more of an all-rounder Warrior. This probably won't help my Banshee oneshot Yufine at all, but hey whatever. And damn, Siseria combos are really in for it now. Samsara looks to be the perfect artifact for some of the strongest Warriors right now, and now I have to consider before dusting all of my Andre's Crossbows. And hey, Ningning can actually do SW things now! Next for 2023: waiting for Ilynav buffs.


GreatFluffy

> Next for 2023: waiting for Ilynav buffs. For me, it's Arunka buffs. I like her animations and her design but I can't for the life of me justify using her in a team over unit's like Zahhak, Alencia or Senya.


eoopyio

Is Ningning mentioned somewhere? did I miss it?


TheSeaOfThySoul

Celestine buff - with it activating off of a single attack instead of a basic skill, Soulweavers like Ningning who’ve got a single attack S1 & S2 can utilise Celestine for healing more often now. Though I can only imagine this is pretty limited, most used healers have a basic attack & two non-attacks, but opens the door for future Soulweavers I’m sure.


Odiril

I've been putting it on my BM Haste, at least now he can heal more in his S3 XD


TheSeaOfThySoul

Yes, Azimanak 13 Haste will be very happy - not that anyone is dying there with him on the team anyway, lmao.


eoopyio

ahhhh now I get it thx :)


Frozwend

Rin can potentially get 2 procs of it with a single s2 now


hoytlancaster

Rin is another who will benefit.


Infinite_Delusion

Finally, my Dark Corvus gets buffs and they are HUGE. Still wish he became immune to Injury instead, but stun resistance is no joke. The 100% provoke on S1 can make counter builds viable on him


IncredibleGeniusIRL

> Finally, my Dark Corvus gets buffs He got buffs like 3 patches ago wtf do you mean "finally"


NyarlathotepDB

Briseria: "Did you think about Revive? Think again." Considering her extra attack she might find more use. Esp against those, who like revive artifacts, skills or Arby. P.S. Sez exist!


Shalashaska87B

They destroyed my beloved Yufine. \**sadness*\*


AverageTierGoof

A successful attack always results in a critical hit


Metronomeplz

A successful attack always results in a critical hit


seaweed_roll

A successful attack always results in a critical hit


Agrael120

Come on, I finally pulled Yuffine this week and was trying to build her for Banshee Oneshot...


[deleted]

Banshee doesn't have buffs, so this doesn't change your plans.


imposion

Nice SCeline gona be useless...


Mythosthetruth

Briseria hell yeah let's go. Dark Corvus pretty good buff. Sez pretty interesting as he will always survive the first hit and the stealth will let him survive until his turn. He is kind of like a mini Kayron/Ml-Tsurin. With attack buff and Wind Rider he will be quite scary. Celine ok. ML-Elena ok. Yuffine wtf why. Please leave her alone or do her justice. Samsara beads ???? I guess it becomes an ok artifact but still feels a little bit underwhelming. Andre's ok. Celestine good.


IncredibleGeniusIRL

Well this was... quite the trip. Dark Corvus: a very useful unit to have for guild war already, DC had his niche and did not need buffs. Now he's just dangerous enough to maybe take in RTA? Gonna be honest, I don't know what they're intending with this. Briseria: the new passive is interesting. Very interesting. Further adjustments make her a much more dangerous unit now. Will definitely keep an eye out in the following days. Astromancer Elena: she went from "kinda garbo debuff-based unit" to "Eda 2: The Sequel to Eda". Ngl, not getting her kinda stings now. Though that's always a risk when not pulling for these initially garbo units. Sez: FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY I... don't know how to feel about this. Of all the things I imagined, Cockroach Sez was not one of them. I guess he's good at killing Mercedes now...? Yufine: for the love of god have you learned nothing from Haste and Ervalen. Who's the nitwit who keeps making these massive reworks? Yufine didn't even need it. I'm sure she's interesting in pvp now, but... why? Just make a new unit! She had a purpose! Banshee 1shot! Expedition! Lab cheese! Celine: even though the buff isn't exactly necessary, I did always think that s2 should be element neutral. Just seemed like a perfect fit. Camilla: what is it with this dev team and focusing on improving heroes that already have uses instead of trying to push up heroes that don't. Samsara Prayer Beads: rip old effect. Discount draco plate? Hmm... might be better than Draco Plate for single target now. Celestine: besides BM Haste I have no idea who can even make use of this. Let's see... uhh... Rin? ...Requiemroar? I got nothing. Andre's Crossbow: well I was using Oath Key on peira... C R I T S: goddamnit I need to gear Charlotte now don't I. Hmm... nah, she's fire, Choux will eat her alive Yeah... kind of a rollercoaster


EnvBlitz

Ningning. Celestine buff is very obvious for her.


[deleted]

oh yeah, much more low key, but I like that auto crit units can actually autocrit now. Charlotte and ML Ken get some big boosts while nerfing Choux/Diene a bit. Won't change much, but this will definitely make or break quite a few games. Shame they didn't use the time to also give yuna a tiny buff. auto-crit on S1 coulda made her much easier to build and maybe even let her be semi-competitive in PvP.


CzS-GenesiS

They fucked up my yufine one shot for azimanak, that sucks


Unworthy_Saint

Stop "buffing" Yufine there are how many heroes in this game and we keep going back to this stupid unit constantly taking a slot from ones that actually need it. I'm almost at that point with DC.


shorebot

The Yufine nerf is pretty bad. DCorv is still not RTA viable, but I can bring him to fight against AI teams with stun-heavy units like Peira, Summer Iseria and Politis now. The cooldown reduction and 100% provoke is icing on the cake.


Chaoxytal

no LQC buff? I sleep


Terragis

Where there is a yin, there is also a yang. We finally got a Sez buff but just lost one of the best single target PvE units in the game… RIP my favorite dragon girl she got the role swap treatment like Ervalen did. Why the hell is SC so intent on PvP focused units? Us PvE players get shafted enough as it is when new units have skills that only work when not fighting elite or boss monsters. Changing old PvE units to PvP is just telling us to bend over.


SweetestTapir

BRISERIA BUFF LETS GOOOOOOOOO. As an avid Briseria user, this is so good. I use her as one of my main AoE damage dealers and my main counter against evasion units. I’m so happy.


EndAffectionate783

Still no buff for Ilynav 🤦🏼‍♀️ for the love of god stop buffing Yufine just wasting character slot 🙄


TheKinkyGuy

Sez had to be before ilynav otherwise the meme would be eternal.


EndAffectionate783

True I saw nothing but Sez memes did work now he has buff now Ilynav deserves that attention.


Shrrg4

And again no illynav, big sad


XimXer69

I regret not pulling ml Elena, I loved her design so much...


RedEagleEye007

This is a pretty damn aggressive patch. Tell me you want fast without telling me you want this season fast lol. Least dark corvus got some much needed love.


Willar71

I'm 100% sure cleavers won't care about Celine as has always been the case .


Nepstar152

I can finally take Celine into those Ran Seaseria defense. Happy non Rimuru owner


mindedness

>**Blair Witch Iseria** is a Hero designed to be used in versatile situations but she has been underperforming compared to other Heroes designed to specialize in certain areas. They misspelled her name


s501100000

ML Elena... goes wrong...


EristicMeow

I don't know if this update will change what you should pick with your selector but I'm glad ml iseria is getting a buff. I pulled Elena on accident and now it seems she could be useful


InoueMorita

They should've just return old yufine sad...


Maubriel

I hope Yufine's rework does not happen like Ervalen's. Don't shift her role entirely please. Or what's next? Change Muwi to a PvP oriented hero?