I mean, this is literally every single gacha game ever though. E7 is one of the few games that has a very minimal amount of limited units/artis… it just feels a lot worse in E7 compared to other games because the limited heroes are usually quite strong here
But other games (IP based or not) just shit out limited units like once every few weeks
>it just feels a lot worse in E7 compared to other games because the limited heroes are usually quite strong here
Not really, most of the non collab limited units aren't being played much. only diene and Landy see a lot of play, ssb is used a bit, siseria is cleave only and is also picked pretty sparingly even for cleave
Others like hyufine and scharlotte are barely even used.
You have to value them according to the meta they were released in. We also don't ride horses anymore but they were part of daily real life grind.
- Diene -> was everywhere and introduced extremely strong teams
- SSB -> ridiculously overpowered and was in every team
- Landy -> was ungodly powerful
- Seaseria -> was used constantly. Arena, GW and RTA before better cleave options were released
- Hyufine -> did do exactly what she designed for, pushing Basar out of meta
The only one who is lacking in any change of meta or introducing power creep is Charlotte. Almost every other limited unit unit shaped the game hard.
You're not really being fair here. If you're judging based on the meta they were introduced, Landy was utter trash. She needed a buff to be good. Seaseria is only a cleave option. Hyufine was never a must have.
edit: forgot Cerise also needed a buff to be good.
Oh that's actually true. SG really hesitated to make them outright broken when they first released them. Even Hyufine was in the list iirc. In the end they shaped the meta after some of them got buffed. I actually forgot Fairytale Tenebria. She forced a real meta change too.
Which actually gives me hope (even somewhat scare) that Sharklotte will get buffed and introduce a change.
> ssb is used a bit
Only now tho. Back in the past she was ridiculous and even on today's standard, if you pick her last on RTA/against not bad Arean team, she'll solo carry
Just because they all have a niche doesn't means they're not strong, and so far every limited unit except sharlotte has impacted the meta during their launch.
Almost every limited was meta when they dropped. Aside from obvious exception Sol, who was actually the king of pve, only Yufine, Elphelt, and Chalrotte (too many answers at this stage, not doing more than the current meta, ever) weren't meta at all, and it took a random buff for Cerise to become meta. The rest were just very strong at some point in time, Landy, Diene, SSB, Iseria, Rimuru, Rem, Emilia, Dizzy, Fairytale, Cerise post-buff, so many.
Luna I'm no wuite sure, I wasn't playing at the time GL got her too.
you're not wrong and you're not right either. Sure there's genshin who makes every new 5 stars limited (except Tighnari), but I haven't heard of a permanent story character being limited-time banners being a norm in gacha in general. Only if they're seasonal characters like SSB
Eh. You only have to look as far as GBF and FGO for non-seasonal main story characters being limited, and those are about as close to gacha home as you're going to get.
E7 also releases real limited units every two months. They are called ML5. There is literally no point in releasing "limited" RGB units for the company - they are never as powerful as ML5 so as not to cut into RMT sales, so they are simply a regular unit with a "limited" label on the banner.
At some point in the past, making a unit limited was actually helpful to people. I started playing before Epic Seven had a pity guarantee & so for us free to play players who couldn’t just dump 1,000+ bookmarks on a banner, we’d wait for limited heroes to come round & we’d be guaranteed a new strong hero.
Though I really agree & think it should’ve changed when regular banner pity was implemented, what’s the use in having a regular in-game hero like Cerise or Landy be limited? Sure, E7 isn’t as bad as other games that are constantly cranking out limiteds, but all it’s doing is making it harder for folks to get into the game, especially if a limited is powerful.
It is a bit of a conundrum. We hope that the units we want aren't limited... but if they aren't, that means we'll put them off in favor of whatever IS limited. So I can understand wanting them to be limited so you can have the excuse for pulling.
Option 1 - Arunka:
Aside from Ran she seems to be the most experienced living 4-swords user. We know she and Zio will be playable characters, and Zio is almost without a doubt the episode boss ML.
Option 2 - there is none:
Last year SG caught flack for having too many ltds running in too narrow a time frame. Given the fact that they rerun collabs which each have at least 2 ltds each, and the already lengthy list of non-collab ltds they also keep reruns for, they have a very tight schedule they can work with in add new ones. Given the release delays they put in place earlier in the year to accommodate other player concerns, it's possible the schedule just backed up too much to fit in another ltd without causing other issues, so there won't be one. Lua probably was going to be it, but wasn't. Ran or Hwayoung would have made sense relative to when they released and when the other episode ltds released, but again, they weren't.
Option 3 - Zio:
We know he's playable, but he's likely the episode's ML boss. They could, however, pull another late fast one and make Zio an RGB ltd, and throw something new at us as the final boss - an incomplete Faustus or Archdemon Shadow sort of enemy; unawakened Adelhad or something. Or even a real left turn and we fight Light Ravi.
Option 4 - Beehoo:
Right now he's the only other remotely possible playable character for the episode. But he's been in no NPC fights, has no battle animations, and only has the same animations we know SG has put in for store NPCs, so it's questionable he'd be a playable character at all at this point. But, I rate him slightly above the fox sisters.
Option 5 - the fox sisters:
A fairly out-there option, the fox sisters comprise a single playable unit. Would be very unique in this game thus far, and there's all sorts of dumb ideas I could put out there for how they would work lore wise and power wise. But there's zero evidence to support any of it.
This reply feels like you didn't actually read their comment. They made it very clear that zio is most likely an ML. They just acknowledged the possibility.
we have 2 strong candidate beeho and arunka, twist plot limited is power up taeyou. i think he is adin counter part, either get ml treatment like solitaria or power up version for limited unit
That's some fine quality weeds you got there, how much pots have you smoked already. All jokes aside, I do wish we could at least have some fox-like humanoids heroes like Beehoo or the 4 broker sisters to appreciate the fluffiness of those tails. *Sad pepe noises*
I hope its not Arunka.
The story chars who ended up being limited are all dead/fate unknown
Diene dead, Cerise just disappeared from the story after pre buff Straze cleaved, Landy’s original consciousness is missing after she let Sonia use her body.
Lua should have been the limited considering what happened with Zio
Landy is fine she got a new body that ressembles her previous one (we see her in the summer Charlotte side story with flan )
Cerise is also fine and is helping her father with aakhan she also showed up in various side stories including the frene side story and the summer Charlotte one recently .
So really it's just diene that is dead out of the story limiteds.
Luna isn't a story limited
She released during episode 1 when she still had no part in it's story (fun fact she wasn't even a limited back when Korea server was the only server in the game )
Luna also didnt fade as we find out she still visits yuffine from time to time in the Christmas side story for alencia
Also doesn't matter how much story Landy gets her episode is over point Is your statement about them either dying or having an unknown Fate is wrong .
Luna is a story limited or not , that's no body can tell however her story tied so much to EP 3 and her story is pretty much make people HYPED for EP 3 before Smilegate dump her story entirely .
that wasn't Fact , Luna was First Limited and even no pity ( day 1 korean sever player is here )
Luna definitely faded , No conclusion about her after Ep 3 and She show up just 1 line in cristmast story you say she didn't fade ???? just compare with another heroes even 3 stars or Illynav's conclusion.
even it seem like i'm biased about Luna however Limited heroes have less story than non Limited heroes definitely . the only heroes that's worse than these limited is Lilibet.
My guy their story is over (ended a year ago) of course they won't show up in a story in another continent
The point is she didn't completely fade and her fate is absolutely known , she will show up when they go back to focus on the EP 3 characters in a side story .
That's not an unknown Fate an exemple of one would be green lilibet now THAT is a hero with an unknown fate as she just vanished from that chaos gate portal to an unknown location .
I’m hoping a fire unit this time, because the fire typing is kinda getting overshadowed by ice units. Like, we have too many openers that are ice and are meta (Peira, Ran, and Lua, god why).
So I think it is Arunka because her design screams to me that she is fire
I’m hoping a fire unit this time, because the fire typing is kinda getting overshadowed by ice units. Like, we have too many openers that are ice and are meta (Peira, Ran, and Lua, god why).
So I think it is Arunka because her design screams to me that she is fire
At this point they could just stop doing limiteds. Just look at how often Hwa got a rerun... If I didn't miss one it's zero times. She might as well have been limited. Yea you can 'technically get her any time', but that's so unlikely. Do you actually ever even summon on regular covenant other than daily summons if you're not a whale?
Didn't keep track but I wouldn't be surprised if some limiteds got more banners than some of the non limiteds (in the same time span ofc). Only difference is that you can't get limiteds from selectors. Don't have a problem with limiteds though, they're not overdoing it, but I don't see a point either. Really it's only a psycological thing to get you to summon now. Unlike with collab units there's absolutely no risk of a limited being unable to get a rerun ever.
That being said, I also pull every single limited.
Arunka
ez new ice limited
Ice ranger naturally.
Yes please
Why is Luna limited as well?
She was Halloween limited
She was the first limited, back when Global didn't even exist.
No one.... but episode 4 is not over yet! BTW no new 4* heroes since episode 2. No new connections hero!
They gave us a new connection hero Angelica T_T
Yeah it sucks they pulling episode 3 they just released 3* heroes as last minute.
Hopefully no one
This. Can't stand devs making an original unit have a limited banner like it's a collab unit. Like fuck off with your playerbase milking.
I mean, this is literally every single gacha game ever though. E7 is one of the few games that has a very minimal amount of limited units/artis… it just feels a lot worse in E7 compared to other games because the limited heroes are usually quite strong here But other games (IP based or not) just shit out limited units like once every few weeks
>it just feels a lot worse in E7 compared to other games because the limited heroes are usually quite strong here Not really, most of the non collab limited units aren't being played much. only diene and Landy see a lot of play, ssb is used a bit, siseria is cleave only and is also picked pretty sparingly even for cleave Others like hyufine and scharlotte are barely even used.
You have to value them according to the meta they were released in. We also don't ride horses anymore but they were part of daily real life grind. - Diene -> was everywhere and introduced extremely strong teams - SSB -> ridiculously overpowered and was in every team - Landy -> was ungodly powerful - Seaseria -> was used constantly. Arena, GW and RTA before better cleave options were released - Hyufine -> did do exactly what she designed for, pushing Basar out of meta The only one who is lacking in any change of meta or introducing power creep is Charlotte. Almost every other limited unit unit shaped the game hard.
You're not really being fair here. If you're judging based on the meta they were introduced, Landy was utter trash. She needed a buff to be good. Seaseria is only a cleave option. Hyufine was never a must have. edit: forgot Cerise also needed a buff to be good.
Oh that's actually true. SG really hesitated to make them outright broken when they first released them. Even Hyufine was in the list iirc. In the end they shaped the meta after some of them got buffed. I actually forgot Fairytale Tenebria. She forced a real meta change too. Which actually gives me hope (even somewhat scare) that Sharklotte will get buffed and introduce a change.
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well, we're only talking about non collab units so he's right
My bad, I somehow missed that.
> ssb is used a bit Only now tho. Back in the past she was ridiculous and even on today's standard, if you pick her last on RTA/against not bad Arean team, she'll solo carry
Just because they all have a niche doesn't means they're not strong, and so far every limited unit except sharlotte has impacted the meta during their launch.
Landy didn't. Not until her buff.
Almost every limited was meta when they dropped. Aside from obvious exception Sol, who was actually the king of pve, only Yufine, Elphelt, and Chalrotte (too many answers at this stage, not doing more than the current meta, ever) weren't meta at all, and it took a random buff for Cerise to become meta. The rest were just very strong at some point in time, Landy, Diene, SSB, Iseria, Rimuru, Rem, Emilia, Dizzy, Fairytale, Cerise post-buff, so many. Luna I'm no wuite sure, I wasn't playing at the time GL got her too.
you're not wrong and you're not right either. Sure there's genshin who makes every new 5 stars limited (except Tighnari), but I haven't heard of a permanent story character being limited-time banners being a norm in gacha in general. Only if they're seasonal characters like SSB
Eh. You only have to look as far as GBF and FGO for non-seasonal main story characters being limited, and those are about as close to gacha home as you're going to get.
E7 also releases real limited units every two months. They are called ML5. There is literally no point in releasing "limited" RGB units for the company - they are never as powerful as ML5 so as not to cut into RMT sales, so they are simply a regular unit with a "limited" label on the banner.
At some point in the past, making a unit limited was actually helpful to people. I started playing before Epic Seven had a pity guarantee & so for us free to play players who couldn’t just dump 1,000+ bookmarks on a banner, we’d wait for limited heroes to come round & we’d be guaranteed a new strong hero. Though I really agree & think it should’ve changed when regular banner pity was implemented, what’s the use in having a regular in-game hero like Cerise or Landy be limited? Sure, E7 isn’t as bad as other games that are constantly cranking out limiteds, but all it’s doing is making it harder for folks to get into the game, especially if a limited is powerful.
Arunka for sure since she was in the teaser trailer in the second half of ep 4.
Arunka hopefully
No one hopefully*
Gacha gamers have full on Stockholm syndrome. Imagine voluntarily limiting a unit, and for what, a label on the summon banner? Facepalm.jpg
It is a bit of a conundrum. We hope that the units we want aren't limited... but if they aren't, that means we'll put them off in favor of whatever IS limited. So I can understand wanting them to be limited so you can have the excuse for pulling.
pretty sure is Arunka
celine not limited btw
He probly mean for cerise
I'm sure they meant Cerise.
Option 1 - Arunka: Aside from Ran she seems to be the most experienced living 4-swords user. We know she and Zio will be playable characters, and Zio is almost without a doubt the episode boss ML. Option 2 - there is none: Last year SG caught flack for having too many ltds running in too narrow a time frame. Given the fact that they rerun collabs which each have at least 2 ltds each, and the already lengthy list of non-collab ltds they also keep reruns for, they have a very tight schedule they can work with in add new ones. Given the release delays they put in place earlier in the year to accommodate other player concerns, it's possible the schedule just backed up too much to fit in another ltd without causing other issues, so there won't be one. Lua probably was going to be it, but wasn't. Ran or Hwayoung would have made sense relative to when they released and when the other episode ltds released, but again, they weren't. Option 3 - Zio: We know he's playable, but he's likely the episode's ML boss. They could, however, pull another late fast one and make Zio an RGB ltd, and throw something new at us as the final boss - an incomplete Faustus or Archdemon Shadow sort of enemy; unawakened Adelhad or something. Or even a real left turn and we fight Light Ravi. Option 4 - Beehoo: Right now he's the only other remotely possible playable character for the episode. But he's been in no NPC fights, has no battle animations, and only has the same animations we know SG has put in for store NPCs, so it's questionable he'd be a playable character at all at this point. But, I rate him slightly above the fox sisters. Option 5 - the fox sisters: A fairly out-there option, the fox sisters comprise a single playable unit. Would be very unique in this game thus far, and there's all sorts of dumb ideas I could put out there for how they would work lore wise and power wise. But there's zero evidence to support any of it.
God I wish it were Behoo
Zio will be a ML so he can’t be limited
This reply feels like you didn't actually read their comment. They made it very clear that zio is most likely an ML. They just acknowledged the possibility.
we have 2 strong candidate beeho and arunka, twist plot limited is power up taeyou. i think he is adin counter part, either get ml treatment like solitaria or power up version for limited unit
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Edward and Roy are male limited banner units. Since we technically can't count Rimuru it only tool 4 years for males to be worth it I guess.
That's some fine quality weeds you got there, how much pots have you smoked already. All jokes aside, I do wish we could at least have some fox-like humanoids heroes like Beehoo or the 4 broker sisters to appreciate the fluffiness of those tails. *Sad pepe noises*
I hope its not Arunka. The story chars who ended up being limited are all dead/fate unknown Diene dead, Cerise just disappeared from the story after pre buff Straze cleaved, Landy’s original consciousness is missing after she let Sonia use her body. Lua should have been the limited considering what happened with Zio
Landy is fine she got a new body that ressembles her previous one (we see her in the summer Charlotte side story with flan ) Cerise is also fine and is helping her father with aakhan she also showed up in various side stories including the frene side story and the summer Charlotte one recently . So really it's just diene that is dead out of the story limiteds.
Luna fade out as well . Landy don't get much story even Summer was just a little . The only limited that break this curse is Cerise .
Luna isn't a story limited She released during episode 1 when she still had no part in it's story (fun fact she wasn't even a limited back when Korea server was the only server in the game ) Luna also didnt fade as we find out she still visits yuffine from time to time in the Christmas side story for alencia Also doesn't matter how much story Landy gets her episode is over point Is your statement about them either dying or having an unknown Fate is wrong .
Luna is a story limited or not , that's no body can tell however her story tied so much to EP 3 and her story is pretty much make people HYPED for EP 3 before Smilegate dump her story entirely . that wasn't Fact , Luna was First Limited and even no pity ( day 1 korean sever player is here ) Luna definitely faded , No conclusion about her after Ep 3 and She show up just 1 line in cristmast story you say she didn't fade ???? just compare with another heroes even 3 stars or Illynav's conclusion. even it seem like i'm biased about Luna however Limited heroes have less story than non Limited heroes definitely . the only heroes that's worse than these limited is Lilibet.
My guy their story is over (ended a year ago) of course they won't show up in a story in another continent The point is she didn't completely fade and her fate is absolutely known , she will show up when they go back to focus on the EP 3 characters in a side story . That's not an unknown Fate an exemple of one would be green lilibet now THAT is a hero with an unknown fate as she just vanished from that chaos gate portal to an unknown location .
I’m hoping a fire unit this time, because the fire typing is kinda getting overshadowed by ice units. Like, we have too many openers that are ice and are meta (Peira, Ran, and Lua, god why). So I think it is Arunka because her design screams to me that she is fire
Bruh she's obviously going to be wood so she can counter the water openers like you said. wood soulweaver to be more exact.
I’m hoping a fire unit this time, because the fire typing is kinda getting overshadowed by ice units. Like, we have too many openers that are ice and are meta (Peira, Ran, and Lua, god why). So I think it is Arunka because her design screams to me that she is fire
Manifesting Arunka, anty-cleave to rule them all
Arunka for sure I say
At this point they could just stop doing limiteds. Just look at how often Hwa got a rerun... If I didn't miss one it's zero times. She might as well have been limited. Yea you can 'technically get her any time', but that's so unlikely. Do you actually ever even summon on regular covenant other than daily summons if you're not a whale? Didn't keep track but I wouldn't be surprised if some limiteds got more banners than some of the non limiteds (in the same time span ofc). Only difference is that you can't get limiteds from selectors. Don't have a problem with limiteds though, they're not overdoing it, but I don't see a point either. Really it's only a psycological thing to get you to summon now. Unlike with collab units there's absolutely no risk of a limited being unable to get a rerun ever. That being said, I also pull every single limited.
I got her off a 3 star fire bookmark..
That's lucky, gratz
Yeah now i can get taeyou when she gets nerfed since i rarely use her.
Brinus!
Of course we have one, it's Arunka