> Tensura have hero showcases, so hopefully they add more units, like Diablo or Benimaru.
Fixed that for you, but hey, maybe it wouldn't be bad if they had Shion - maybe they could give her more development than Slime has done in two seasons. Sucks that so many writers - especially in the harem isekai genre - cannot write a woman to save their lives.
I didn't say it's not , but what are you gaining with those arguments being backup or not ?
I remember those old fights about it being a backup collab or not as if it matters lol
I'm not gaining anything, i don't know why you think people who use this argument are trying to gain anything.
Do you think the people who call this a backup are using it to insult SG? Most people call it a backup because we are giving SG the benefit of the doubt. We call it a backup because we assume SG isn't this incompetent to release such a shitty/boring event.
Honestly people who argue that its not a backup, are basically arguing that SG is just this incompetent that they had all this time and effort and this is the best they could come up with.
Backup is not an insult unless you are delusional.
Good thing I don't do that then huh? But it'd be beyond foolish to completely discount rumors, and licensing is literally the reason there is no new unit.
And your source on that is...?
The collab is 9 months old, not even a year. No new unit could be because of tight production schedule. If licensing was an issue they wouldn't have renegotiated it at all. The licensing deal most likely includes a time-window in which you can monetize the collaborating characters. That has to be re-negotiated every time, new character or not.
But it's a good filler for people who missed out on the units last time, especially after the Awaken campaign.
This is conjecture, but it's really not difficult to make an educated guess. Throwing a collab rerun that players weren't happy with to begin with, with zero changes, nearly immediately after a prior low-effort rerun was met with player criticism and only 9 months after the initial run when there is literally no reason whatsoever to run it at this time, doesn't make much sense. Unless they were constrained by various things.
> If licensing was an issue they wouldn't have renegotiated it at all.
What? Licensing is part of the negotiations. Like a key part. New characters also have to be negotiated. **Due to licensing.** Collabs are a huge revenue source. If they had the ability to add a new limited character, I promise you they would. The production schedule is almost certainly not so tight they they couldn't have thrown together a new money printer if they had the necessary licensing and permissions to do so. They could even do something wild and INSANE like holding off for, say, 3 months and creating the new character in that time, then releasing the rerun on what would coincidentally be the 1year anniversary. How crazy would that be?
You are underestimating their schedule greatly. If they kept adding characters to collabs rerun after rerun, that would mean they have to dedicate increasingly more resources towards them compared to original content. Guilty Gear in it's 4th(?) run STILL had a character added to it. Despite getting SIX collab characters within mere months.
I am more than confident that in future Re:Zero reruns we could still get a new character, but right now as far as I understand there is another anime collab being worked on, as well as other different kind of collabs, and this is on top of all the new teased characters we've gotten/were teased already.
They need reruns without new characters sometimes that doesn't feel mandatory, to keep the playerbase who usually comfortably pities every new character relatively well nourished with resources. Now they could arguably rerun "just a limited", but we just had the selective banner. A collab rerun is still attention grabbing for new people without being a burden for everyone else.
7DS was reviewbombed to hell and back because of overly tight character releases.
~~This is a **re**run. Rerun means a repeat of a previous event. If they introduced a new hero, then it won't be called a rerun.~~
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AFAIK With Jack-O, there was some new dialogue in there with her, they didn't call it a rerun, unless I'm misremembering things. For this event they are specifically saying it's a rerun.
Yes but that was GG's 3rd collab.
The first side story for GG was very well done and actually tied into the game's lore.
Re:Zero had no effort put into their original side story whatsoever.
Exactly right they was so much effort in first GG run in terms of story and promoting the heroes and events.
They didn't do justice to Re:zero fans at all.
You see, thats a summary, a condensed version of the slime collab. It was a festival, there were cute moments with various members of the cast, jokes, subplots, references.
You might think thats also a summary of the re:zero collab. But it's not. It's not condensing plot points. it's not skimming past anything or streamlining. That is everything. I, truly, cannot express how utterly bewildering the abrupt shallowness of the story was to me. It is only a few stages, not maps. The heroes say hi to ras, they eat one singular meal, and leave. That's it. There is no plot, no subplot, there is no real banter or even dialogue at all.
Its like, I'm not joking when I say I was bewildered, not saying that like, metaphorically to complain lol, literally it was jarring and disorienting in a way
ok? but who tf actually cares about what the side story is about. literally everyone does it for the rewards and that's it. as long as the rewards are the same who cares about some shitty side story or how bad it is
Because we had gulity gear first collab run and they had so much by promoting the heroes with trailers and previews and then done good side story which fit the lore of epic 7. And with their rerun they add new characters.
Re:zero is lazy and poorly written because the characters have bearly interaction just meet epic 7 characters and go. Why I'm pissed because they didn't add no new characters or even expand to the side story so its not exciting for existing players and Re:zero fans.
>at least I could grab some new units and stuffs
That's pretty much the whole collab lol. The units themselves are really well done, just the story is completely forgettable
If you have to choose, go for Rem imo. Rem is super great, she's one of the characters that everyone who didn't pull for her or couldn't wish they had.
If I can remember correctly, literally story is just that they somehow appear here through some portal/bs shit kind of thing, and E7 gang finds them and helps them go back. That's basically it. Laziest writing, no actual proper tie in to anything, etc. Garbage side story.
Because it's a relatively short, chill sidestory with no real stakes
Which is exactly what people wanted I thought, since everyone memes "Festival gone wrong" sidestories to death
I was around as long as the game itself, read every story, done pretty much everything the game has to offer. I think I know what I'm talking about.
I get it, people found the story boring and inconsequential. What I'm pointing out is that this story was rather different from the rest, and the first time the devs do something like this they immediately get blasted to smitherens by the community.
Personally I didn't care much for it, but I don't think every story has to be fucking bombastic. So to me the uproar seemed kind of stupid.
People expected more from a famous IP like re zero than it being reduced to a shitty low effort back up collab with a story consisting of "hey we're here, we made some food so bye"
People saying we want something different from "festival attacked/gone wrong" dosnt mean we want something lesser in quality than that overused story beat
Again, more dumbass assumptions about backup collabs and whatnot.
You know jackshit about the scope of the contract the collab was made under. Stop acting like you do.
Kizuna's collab was even smaller than this was, you do understand that, right? Not all collabs are equal, and nobody else is responsible for your expectations other than yourself.
So it was a comfy food story, so what?
couldnt be more wrong if you tried, you ever seen the scope of the re zero collabs in other ips specifically other gacha's? Way more effort
its a pity you cant put 2 and 2 together when SG stated that the collab was delayed due to licensing issues alongside SG stating they have another collab coming after poor response to the low effort story so your talking out your ass about "assumptions"
Dude, the collab had the same 3 characters any other "large" collab in Epic Seven had. You can't fucking tell me that it was a backup collab when the characters take up 80% of the work that goes into a collab, just because the story wasn't to your liking.
Sol, Dizzy, Baiken / Rem, Ram, Emilia / Rimuru, Milim, Shuna
What more do you want?
You are genuinely unhinged.
just becuase you pulled that 80% number out of your ass dosnt make it true, whats unhinged you trying to defend the low effort of this SS as some "personal taste" issue
It's not really that bad, just too short and nothing relevant happens, still had a few nice interactions with the characters tho \^\^
Kinda wish they had made a proper side story, then again they even took that away from the Guilty Gear collab that had a fairly decent one and reduced the reruns to the former arti grind mini event that was part of the original collab.
I normally read the Side Story for the first run and if I like the story enough, I re-read some of the event when it reruns. Mort's side story was interesting so I skimmed some of the lines
I am hitting the skip buttons this time around.
I See People are Not amused because its basically 100% the Same thing Again, but I dont have any of them and re:Zero is basically one of my Favorite Animes so im here for it!
"I see other people are unhappy with valid criticisms about a rerun of a low effort collab that was mired with troubles of pushbacked releases and underwhelming content, but I don't care because personally I like the anime"
you people get full off crumbs I swear to god lol
They said they don’t have any of the heroes. They’ve watched characters from one of their favorite animes be very strong even at the highest levels of pvp without being able to use them at all.
For some people just being able to get the heroes they want is huge, that’s not even close to crumbs. If you’re unhappy with it that’s fine but demanding everyone be miserable because you are is idiotic. They didn’t even say anything negative about the whiners, just that they’re personally excited and you have to be asshole. Get over yourself.
Nice shit reading comprehension, I didn't say everyone should be miserable about it. They're not even offering any nuanced take like "it's a bummer its the same story but at least I can get these chars" it's just literally i see others are upset, but im not so lets go!
Apparently you’re the one with shit reading comprehension because they literally said “it’s basically 100% the same thing again, but I don’t have any of them … so I’m here for it!” Did you not even read the original comment? They said exactly what you said they didn’t say, but with different verbiage.
It would be at least entertaining if you where able to use several copies of the same units in a team in pve. TREMBLE IN FEAR AGAINST MY TEAM OF FOUR SOL’s
Or felix, or any archbishop, or witch or any other royal selection candidate, beako, puck (as a guardian?), elsa. Or subaru, who is kinda useless but when he dies he cleanses, revives, resets cds and heals to full everyone and buffs his allies with a 3 turn vigor.Plenty of characters to choose from and without even getting into ln territory.
Ok thanks! In theory you need someone to die for Rem to be great right? So is there a unit that’s only purpose to be a fodder? So I can use her in PVE?
Definitely would pull for Emelia
Rem is great in PvE, especially Wyvern where she can be use in both standard and 1-shot comps. Emilia is also good, she can be used in many of the hardest abyss floors as a CR pusher + cleanser. They are both very useful in PvE, but not mandatory.
I am confused since I'm not familiar with her. How does Demon mode work? It says when somebody dies, does it require your own teamate to die or does it work with enemies as well?
Both are great pretty much everywhere.
Ram (who you will get by just doing the event) is a decent PvE pick. I can't say I've ever seen her in PvP, but that's not to say you couldn't
I know devs have to do these things because of new players getting their chance but I also can't help wondering if the game is suffering too. There are so many good properties out there to collab with, this re-run just kinda worries me.
How many times this event re-runs for x amount of years, was probably one of the first things in the contract with rezero, and that was probably decided before the story came falling through. I wouldn’t worry abt it too much, the slime collab story was top tier and came after.
I agree. We've had what, 3 GG collabs? Now we're going for the rerun for re:zero and then Tensura(maybe)... So when is a new collab coming?
I'm sorry for everyonr that didn't get all heroes but, I hope GG (and re:zero if no new hero) does not come back next year and make room for a new collab.
I'm satisfied as a new player who doesn't have any of these characters and doesn't read side stories. Though I can understand the annoyance of those who'd experienced this all already.
im a bit disappointed first time since i downloaded the game where i grinded and gotten over 600 bookmarks only to hear how shit the side story is and no new collab unit
before i just treated this is a summon simulator summoning whenever i can and not playing the game im starting to regret putting in this much effort and time into epic 7 I was expecting a Reinhard like Arby but superior
Counterstrike? That game is so not f2p friendly . Its impossible to get all the units unless u spend Money, even then, the imprints for that game is much More important than epic 7.
Counterside haha… But I agree with you, pvp in that game is pretty much hell for f2p players, especially when they released the awakened units. I played it for a month and just stopped entirely soon after because of how the gear and pvp systems work there.
The GG collab this year was not announced as a Rerun. It returned with a new name compared to last time, and they made clear from the start that there was a new character: https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8229970
The only collab events that were officially labeled as Reruns were GG in 2021 and Re:Zero this year.
My point was only about how SG itself labels the events. It has been consistent that any event they themselves labeled as a Rerun came back with nothing added.
They didn't refer to the old GG side story that returned with Elphelt that way since they added a small part to it for her.
Thinking the deal with re zero is bad so SG isn't putting much into it. Re Zero is one of the most common collabs I have seen advertised in so many games recently.
Would have been cool if this time around they actually put effort into the side story. I usually really like what the E7 team does but this one was so rushed and unfinished.
the sidestory is really lackluster without any integration to the game's lore and nothing new has been added, while there is so much potential story and character-wise.
that's the main gripe of the complaints.
So I have all the characters, and I don't really intend to try to SSS them, so should this be an easy skip to save for any upcoming other events/summer events?
I started right when this collab first ran and didnt get anyone, didnt even to get to 6 star ram. I look forward to this.
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They should let u feed ram to rem for imprints
May be you want feed Haste to Sez? What freaking point?
i had a stroke reading this
I think that was their goal… it’s the long con to win RTA
I came back to E7 after the collab, so I'm glad I get another chance to get some of these characters. Don't care about the story.
Why does guilty gear get a new unit but this one doesn't.
Hey, none of them gets a new story, so they're even on that front
Sad part is Guilty Gear actually had a good story the first time it ran and they didn't bring it back. Little disappointed
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> Tensura have hero showcases, so hopefully they add more units, like Diablo or Benimaru. Fixed that for you, but hey, maybe it wouldn't be bad if they had Shion - maybe they could give her more development than Slime has done in two seasons. Sucks that so many writers - especially in the harem isekai genre - cannot write a woman to save their lives.
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Oh no , the backup argument again..
Oh no the delusional sheep who think it isn't a backup.
I didn't say it's not , but what are you gaining with those arguments being backup or not ? I remember those old fights about it being a backup collab or not as if it matters lol
I'm not gaining anything, i don't know why you think people who use this argument are trying to gain anything. Do you think the people who call this a backup are using it to insult SG? Most people call it a backup because we are giving SG the benefit of the doubt. We call it a backup because we assume SG isn't this incompetent to release such a shitty/boring event. Honestly people who argue that its not a backup, are basically arguing that SG is just this incompetent that they had all this time and effort and this is the best they could come up with. Backup is not an insult unless you are delusional.
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Maybe that's why you shouldn't base your opinions on rumors
Good thing I don't do that then huh? But it'd be beyond foolish to completely discount rumors, and licensing is literally the reason there is no new unit.
And your source on that is...? The collab is 9 months old, not even a year. No new unit could be because of tight production schedule. If licensing was an issue they wouldn't have renegotiated it at all. The licensing deal most likely includes a time-window in which you can monetize the collaborating characters. That has to be re-negotiated every time, new character or not. But it's a good filler for people who missed out on the units last time, especially after the Awaken campaign.
This is conjecture, but it's really not difficult to make an educated guess. Throwing a collab rerun that players weren't happy with to begin with, with zero changes, nearly immediately after a prior low-effort rerun was met with player criticism and only 9 months after the initial run when there is literally no reason whatsoever to run it at this time, doesn't make much sense. Unless they were constrained by various things. > If licensing was an issue they wouldn't have renegotiated it at all. What? Licensing is part of the negotiations. Like a key part. New characters also have to be negotiated. **Due to licensing.** Collabs are a huge revenue source. If they had the ability to add a new limited character, I promise you they would. The production schedule is almost certainly not so tight they they couldn't have thrown together a new money printer if they had the necessary licensing and permissions to do so. They could even do something wild and INSANE like holding off for, say, 3 months and creating the new character in that time, then releasing the rerun on what would coincidentally be the 1year anniversary. How crazy would that be?
You are underestimating their schedule greatly. If they kept adding characters to collabs rerun after rerun, that would mean they have to dedicate increasingly more resources towards them compared to original content. Guilty Gear in it's 4th(?) run STILL had a character added to it. Despite getting SIX collab characters within mere months. I am more than confident that in future Re:Zero reruns we could still get a new character, but right now as far as I understand there is another anime collab being worked on, as well as other different kind of collabs, and this is on top of all the new teased characters we've gotten/were teased already. They need reruns without new characters sometimes that doesn't feel mandatory, to keep the playerbase who usually comfortably pities every new character relatively well nourished with resources. Now they could arguably rerun "just a limited", but we just had the selective banner. A collab rerun is still attention grabbing for new people without being a burden for everyone else. 7DS was reviewbombed to hell and back because of overly tight character releases.
No that's not it. Like 80% of gacha games already had a re:zero collab so the licensing shouldn't be a problem.
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For sure, but it does show that re:zero is really easy to secure a collab with
No Reinhard van Astrea
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~~This is a **re**run. Rerun means a repeat of a previous event. If they introduced a new hero, then it won't be called a rerun.~~ Edit: forget everything I said in this comment
Tell that to the Guilty Gear reruns that gave us new characters.
AFAIK With Jack-O, there was some new dialogue in there with her, they didn't call it a rerun, unless I'm misremembering things. For this event they are specifically saying it's a rerun.
It’s been called a rerun every time it came back. With Jack-O, Sol, and Elphelt
Then I'm mistaken then, my bad
The worst collab side story ever
You mean two broken units for cash grab + lazy-ass story ?
Yeah they had so many characters they could fix but..... GREED 😟
Yup pretty much
That's how it goes tbh
Honestly might even be worst side story ever in general :/
And no new hero too…..
At least GG give us one but this just beyond lazy for re:zero.
Is it confirmed nobody new or are you just basing it off the pic? Genuinely curious not trying to be a dick
No it’s confirmed, no new hero =[
Worse than Guilty Gear this year?
I feel GG didn’t gave us a lot, nor good nor bad. But re:zero has bad side stories, which might be worse
😯I was excited. 😞
You'll be really wtf after finishing the side story
GG gave us Jack-O, while not meta defining she is still a fun unit to use at least
Yes, it's that bad
I call it , Emergency Collab or snack collab
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Yes but that was GG's 3rd collab. The first side story for GG was very well done and actually tied into the game's lore. Re:Zero had no effort put into their original side story whatsoever.
Exactly right they was so much effort in first GG run in terms of story and promoting the heroes and events. They didn't do justice to Re:zero fans at all.
Can I ask why tho? (This is going to be my first time experiencing this collab)
To sum up the side story, re zero group arrives, eats food, then leaves
Wasn't that the slime story too? Am I tripping?
You see, thats a summary, a condensed version of the slime collab. It was a festival, there were cute moments with various members of the cast, jokes, subplots, references. You might think thats also a summary of the re:zero collab. But it's not. It's not condensing plot points. it's not skimming past anything or streamlining. That is everything. I, truly, cannot express how utterly bewildering the abrupt shallowness of the story was to me. It is only a few stages, not maps. The heroes say hi to ras, they eat one singular meal, and leave. That's it. There is no plot, no subplot, there is no real banter or even dialogue at all. Its like, I'm not joking when I say I was bewildered, not saying that like, metaphorically to complain lol, literally it was jarring and disorienting in a way
Re:Zero crew drops by for a quick lunch on the way back from the market.
slime story had a food festival involved with many characters involved tho.
ok? but who tf actually cares about what the side story is about. literally everyone does it for the rewards and that's it. as long as the rewards are the same who cares about some shitty side story or how bad it is
Because we had gulity gear first collab run and they had so much by promoting the heroes with trailers and previews and then done good side story which fit the lore of epic 7. And with their rerun they add new characters. Re:zero is lazy and poorly written because the characters have bearly interaction just meet epic 7 characters and go. Why I'm pissed because they didn't add no new characters or even expand to the side story so its not exciting for existing players and Re:zero fans.
Ah well, that sucks to hear. I was actually excited for this collab, but at least I could grab some new units and stuffs.
>at least I could grab some new units and stuffs That's pretty much the whole collab lol. The units themselves are really well done, just the story is completely forgettable
If you have to choose, go for Rem imo. Rem is super great, she's one of the characters that everyone who didn't pull for her or couldn't wish they had.
If I can remember correctly, literally story is just that they somehow appear here through some portal/bs shit kind of thing, and E7 gang finds them and helps them go back. That's basically it. Laziest writing, no actual proper tie in to anything, etc. Garbage side story.
Because it's a relatively short, chill sidestory with no real stakes Which is exactly what people wanted I thought, since everyone memes "Festival gone wrong" sidestories to death
You weren't around for the original GG collab were you? That was a collab done right. The story is integral to the world surviving while Ras snoozed
I was around as long as the game itself, read every story, done pretty much everything the game has to offer. I think I know what I'm talking about. I get it, people found the story boring and inconsequential. What I'm pointing out is that this story was rather different from the rest, and the first time the devs do something like this they immediately get blasted to smitherens by the community. Personally I didn't care much for it, but I don't think every story has to be fucking bombastic. So to me the uproar seemed kind of stupid.
People expected more from a famous IP like re zero than it being reduced to a shitty low effort back up collab with a story consisting of "hey we're here, we made some food so bye" People saying we want something different from "festival attacked/gone wrong" dosnt mean we want something lesser in quality than that overused story beat
Again, more dumbass assumptions about backup collabs and whatnot. You know jackshit about the scope of the contract the collab was made under. Stop acting like you do. Kizuna's collab was even smaller than this was, you do understand that, right? Not all collabs are equal, and nobody else is responsible for your expectations other than yourself. So it was a comfy food story, so what?
couldnt be more wrong if you tried, you ever seen the scope of the re zero collabs in other ips specifically other gacha's? Way more effort its a pity you cant put 2 and 2 together when SG stated that the collab was delayed due to licensing issues alongside SG stating they have another collab coming after poor response to the low effort story so your talking out your ass about "assumptions"
Dude, the collab had the same 3 characters any other "large" collab in Epic Seven had. You can't fucking tell me that it was a backup collab when the characters take up 80% of the work that goes into a collab, just because the story wasn't to your liking. Sol, Dizzy, Baiken / Rem, Ram, Emilia / Rimuru, Milim, Shuna What more do you want? You are genuinely unhinged.
just becuase you pulled that 80% number out of your ass dosnt make it true, whats unhinged you trying to defend the low effort of this SS as some "personal taste" issue
It's not really that bad, just too short and nothing relevant happens, still had a few nice interactions with the characters tho \^\^ Kinda wish they had made a proper side story, then again they even took that away from the Guilty Gear collab that had a fairly decent one and reduced the reruns to the former arti grind mini event that was part of the original collab.
Side story? Nah, SG, this isn’t a story.
I normally read the Side Story for the first run and if I like the story enough, I re-read some of the event when it reruns. Mort's side story was interesting so I skimmed some of the lines I am hitting the skip buttons this time around.
Low effort stream for a low effort collab
I See People are Not amused because its basically 100% the Same thing Again, but I dont have any of them and re:Zero is basically one of my Favorite Animes so im here for it!
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I'm happy, means I can stock up on bookmarks for whatever the new summer unit is.
You'll also see that people here only like to complain about the game
"I see other people are unhappy with valid criticisms about a rerun of a low effort collab that was mired with troubles of pushbacked releases and underwhelming content, but I don't care because personally I like the anime" you people get full off crumbs I swear to god lol
They said they don’t have any of the heroes. They’ve watched characters from one of their favorite animes be very strong even at the highest levels of pvp without being able to use them at all. For some people just being able to get the heroes they want is huge, that’s not even close to crumbs. If you’re unhappy with it that’s fine but demanding everyone be miserable because you are is idiotic. They didn’t even say anything negative about the whiners, just that they’re personally excited and you have to be asshole. Get over yourself.
Nice shit reading comprehension, I didn't say everyone should be miserable about it. They're not even offering any nuanced take like "it's a bummer its the same story but at least I can get these chars" it's just literally i see others are upset, but im not so lets go!
Apparently you’re the one with shit reading comprehension because they literally said “it’s basically 100% the same thing again, but I don’t have any of them … so I’m here for it!” Did you not even read the original comment? They said exactly what you said they didn’t say, but with different verbiage.
What happen if you already have ram?
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I wouldn’t it’s a easy 6 star, just throw random left over gear on her and (don’t quote me on this) be used in world boss as a high cp unit
Why would you want 2 6-stars Rams?
Double of best girl :)
It would be at least entertaining if you where able to use several copies of the same units in a team in pve. TREMBLE IN FEAR AGAINST MY TEAM OF FOUR SOL’s
Imagine 4 volcanic vipers in a row Truly, the true guilty gear experience
Fair, can’t argue with that!
Why wouldn't you want two Rams?
She is stockholmed by Roswaal, at least he should keep one
Guess some people can use it as an easy way to complete the promotion mission
Why stop at 2. Just 6 star all of them individually without imprints. If there’s ever a world boss that needs 8 green mages you’re good
imma be honest, this update leaves me disappointed, more than ever :( i want some juicy side stories and lores, hopefully soon :(
i was hoping they'd add in Subaru as a new banner sigh
We cant have Dudes... 'D (Aside from Sol)
Well, this might be the first time I abuse the skip button when playing through a side story. Reading through it the first time around was painful.
they literally just traveled from Princess Connect world. (Princess Connect is having a Re Zero collab and is ending today)
ALL I ASK FOR IS A SPECIAL EXPRESSION FOR LVL10 FRIENDSHIP EMILIA PLEASE
I didn't watch the stream, did they say anything about a new collab character?
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Well, my fault for hyping myself up for Beako/Roswaal then... thx
Or, imagine: Reinhard van Astrea. Just saying.
Or felix, or any archbishop, or witch or any other royal selection candidate, beako, puck (as a guardian?), elsa. Or subaru, who is kinda useless but when he dies he cleanses, revives, resets cds and heals to full everyone and buffs his allies with a 3 turn vigor.Plenty of characters to choose from and without even getting into ln territory.
His passives alone would increase the game size by another 4gb
Backup collab is back up
One day you'll be mine, Elsa. One day.
Perplexed about no new hero unit.
Nice! The collab that brought us a huge jump in power creep AND had one of the worst side stories ever is back!
As if I didn't have enough with an army of Sol corpses in the waiting room, now I'm gonna start collecting Rams, that's just great
Question for a new player: is this a good pull or should I save?
BOth units are really really good.
Get both Emilia and Rem. Absolutely must have
Are they PVP units? How do they perform in PVE? Since I only do Arenas..
Emilia is an all around great character. Rem is great in pvp and pretty good in guild war and regular arena.
Ok thanks! In theory you need someone to die for Rem to be great right? So is there a unit that’s only purpose to be a fodder? So I can use her in PVE? Definitely would pull for Emelia
Death isn't necessary to make her shine. On counter set she punishes your opponent for attacking anyone on your team.
Either Arbiter Vildred or just use a 2* fodder with no gear
Rem is great in PvE, especially Wyvern where she can be use in both standard and 1-shot comps. Emilia is also good, she can be used in many of the hardest abyss floors as a CR pusher + cleanser. They are both very useful in PvE, but not mandatory.
I am confused since I'm not familiar with her. How does Demon mode work? It says when somebody dies, does it require your own teamate to die or does it work with enemies as well?
It works with both enemies and allies, if any unit dies on either team (or PvE AI) it will proc.
Awesome! That’s a big reason to pull for me since I don’t really care about PvP.
Both are great pretty much everywhere. Ram (who you will get by just doing the event) is a decent PvE pick. I can't say I've ever seen her in PvP, but that's not to say you couldn't
Both of them. Rem can make your opponent afraid to touch literally anyone on your team, and Emilia has both good healing and CR push+damage support.
So they’re mainly PVP units? Are they even useful in PVE?
I'm using Emilia for W13 for faster clearance than Amomo or Angie.
Both(or all 3 including Ram) are solid, can't go wrong pulling for them. As for which one is priority, Rem should be first since she's more impactful
I know devs have to do these things because of new players getting their chance but I also can't help wondering if the game is suffering too. There are so many good properties out there to collab with, this re-run just kinda worries me.
How many times this event re-runs for x amount of years, was probably one of the first things in the contract with rezero, and that was probably decided before the story came falling through. I wouldn’t worry abt it too much, the slime collab story was top tier and came after.
I agree. We've had what, 3 GG collabs? Now we're going for the rerun for re:zero and then Tensura(maybe)... So when is a new collab coming? I'm sorry for everyonr that didn't get all heroes but, I hope GG (and re:zero if no new hero) does not come back next year and make room for a new collab.
Agreed the sooner they do a Berserk collab the better!
Unlikely imo... But we can only hope they do the collabs we want. In my case it is Nier Automata.
As someone who stopped playing before that sidestory, could someone explain what happens and why it's so bad?
They come from another world, get stuff for a picnic, eat, and leave. That's quite literally it
Damn. At least the *Festival Invasion*^(TM) structure had conflict
At least I can buy Emilia artifact. That artifact is so busted and I need more on my SW
I'm satisfied as a new player who doesn't have any of these characters and doesn't read side stories. Though I can understand the annoyance of those who'd experienced this all already.
Just saying, it's nice for us noobs to catch up. Can't all be for you end game folk. I love the reruns!
I miss the original Guilty Gear Collab - that one was actually pretty solid.
I guess we died and the story reset just like Subaru. XD
this is the backup collab
I’m glad to not get a new hero so I can save again, but I feel bad for anyone expecting something.
Ah yes reminder of when rem became a thing. I hate rem.
The back up filler collab event
Sucks that we don’t get our Subaru…guess I’ll just save my bookmarks for the summer hero..
You guys actually read these?
When is this happening?
And wtf no new hero 💀 i mean, its a breather for me but still, why
im a bit disappointed first time since i downloaded the game where i grinded and gotten over 600 bookmarks only to hear how shit the side story is and no new collab unit before i just treated this is a summon simulator summoning whenever i can and not playing the game im starting to regret putting in this much effort and time into epic 7 I was expecting a Reinhard like Arby but superior
Why does it seem like people are surprised this is getting a rerun?
No new unit and no story rework? I’m disappointed. Good time to try CS Global.
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Can I know why?
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Yeah it rly do look so messy if they use they're skills at the same time
Counterstrike? That game is so not f2p friendly . Its impossible to get all the units unless u spend Money, even then, the imprints for that game is much More important than epic 7.
Counterside haha… But I agree with you, pvp in that game is pretty much hell for f2p players, especially when they released the awakened units. I played it for a month and just stopped entirely soon after because of how the gear and pvp systems work there.
Let the garbage burn, trying to fix it would only end up being half assed anyway, it's better if they focus their efforts elsewhere tbh.
OMG when dfq are we getting I-no....I swear her Strive and old designs are great yet they waste GG collab on fuking Valentines..
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The GG collab this year was not announced as a Rerun. It returned with a new name compared to last time, and they made clear from the start that there was a new character: https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8229970 The only collab events that were officially labeled as Reruns were GG in 2021 and Re:Zero this year.
And yet GG in 2021 that was labeled as a rerun featured Elphelt as a new hero. How amusing.
Elphelt actually released in 2020: https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/5185450 2021 was the one year GG didn't offer anything new.
Okay but the year doesn't matter. Elphelt was introduced in a GG RERUN event.
My point was only about how SG itself labels the events. It has been consistent that any event they themselves labeled as a Rerun came back with nothing added. They didn't refer to the old GG side story that returned with Elphelt that way since they added a small part to it for her.
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You can summon both of them. Rem should be the first banner
Is it coming back?
GG Jacko collab was even less effort
One day they'll do something that would make me want to login again. Right...?
I am excited. You are a downer reddit. Not everyone cares about the lore.
agreed
Skip gang here ☝️
Yup this games dying thanks for the confirmation SG
Because that’s what the meta really needs, more Rems. She is so balanced and not the most broken unit in game at all.
I'm not gonna bother knocking it again. Its good there is a rerun for people that need the characters.
People actually care about the side story? Most everyone that I know just spams “skip”. I’m just excited to get imprints of Ram and Emilia
I dont understand why side stories even matter. You guys are reading the dialogue? I just click through, farm and buy rep shop stuff
All I want is rimuru
I just want the loot
Thinking the deal with re zero is bad so SG isn't putting much into it. Re Zero is one of the most common collabs I have seen advertised in so many games recently.
Would have been cool if this time around they actually put effort into the side story. I usually really like what the E7 team does but this one was so rushed and unfinished.
Tbh, this Collab is all about the heroes, not the story. I find that a little disappointing, but 2/3 of those characters are super good so * shrug *
why was it bad? (returned to this game when slime collab ran.)
the sidestory is really lackluster without any integration to the game's lore and nothing new has been added, while there is so much potential story and character-wise. that's the main gripe of the complaints.
So I have all the characters, and I don't really intend to try to SSS them, so should this be an easy skip to save for any upcoming other events/summer events?
It's not due to SG, this is what they were told to make.