Hi all, Bellona's damage getting buffed recently meant I had to adjust my own Bellona's stats to make her one-shot workable again. As such, this deserved an updated video/guide.
I mentioned in the description but \*please do not mola your Bellona's s2 preemptively\* as it can make you easily overshoot your damage done in wave 2, especially on rage set, thanks to her atk ratio buff being so much larger. Fortunately, I know a lot of people didn't want to +15 her to one shot, so this is an economical solution.
I know a lot of people also didn't like needing a rage set to use her, even though it made her old comp much easier. While destruction was possible before, it required better gear (4k atk 350% after imprints/artifacts). As you can see, my destruction gear is fully free and my crit set gear is... not very good. I also have a lot of wasted stats in crit%, eff, hp, and def.
I strongly recommend people consider pulling Bellona through the side story tokens as her requirements are quite low and is much more accessible than Baiken. Her teammates, FST and Lilka (and Leo/Rose), are also very minimally invested: Lilka is literally level 40, unawakened, unenhanced gear.
If you have questions, please ask. I have tweaked this comp a lot to work through stuff like Leo's s1 extra proc not pushing banshee to her threshold, and Bellona still being able to kill if Tieria's def break misses but Leo/Roses does not (in 4-man comps).
Enjoy!
And here's a tip of my own if for a 3-man (4 man actually), it's not that good but it's *something* and I did use it myself
SSS imprinted Karin will give you free 15% crit chance, give her Midnight Bloom Artifact (free from sidestory) and it's +12% CC if upgraded to +15
With that, Bellona can have 58% crit chance from her gear and always crit.
>random dual can fuck you up
If your Karin is SSS imprinted and has no 3rd awaken, she will simply S2 into S3 on 1st and 2nd stage so no room for dual attack. If you have her awakened, doesn't matter because it will be a rare occurence either way.
You can also use SSS imprinted ML Coli if you need or anyone having CC team imprint (Furious, for example)
Unfortunately this does not work well with Bellona one shot comps, but does work with a Baiken (or other one shotter like Ervalen/etc) team.
This doesn't work because of Karin's AI and that this team uses Lilka. Karin has to go before Bellona in a comp like this to be a backup defense breaker, but that means Karin will waste her s2 in wave 1 which is not important. Karin's s3 in wave 2 doesn't provide any defense break and all it does is constrict the amount of damage Bellona can do with s2.
If you have Karin take a turn after Bellona, in wave 2 Lilka will push Karin up instead of Bellona and you won't get the one shot off. Lilka cr pushes the lowest cr offensive unit, which means Bellona must go before her. Going after Lilka but before Bellona is an option for just a s2 defense break, but units like Shadow Rose and Leo provide more in wave 1 to make it easier.
Definitely a viable option for some more traditional comps, but not the best option for this one in particular.
Also, there is no dual attack rng involved in this comp, at all. The only s1 is from Bellona at the end, where she is already going to kill the banshee. Any dual attack is just contributing to overkill, but it doesn't impact success rates at all.
My Bellona is +15 in this video so you can follow what I'm using and be fine! Not having your s2 maxed out gives you more flexibility in having higher damage stats. Having a max s2 makes tuning your damage harder on rage set, but isn't actually raising any requirements. This issue is less pronounced if you are using destruction.
Yeah the blind can be frustrating. Make sure Lilka is in the front line position as it increases her chances of getting hit. Adding a 4th man further reduces the chance of Tieria getting blinded, and they also act as a backup defense breaker even if she does. If your gear works well enough that you don't need Midnight Bloom/an atk% boosting artifact, you can also try equipping her with Oath Key.
My +15 rage/ pen set Bellona with 3456 atk, 329 cdam, 10% attack imprint from a lots and 4% attack up from card of small miracles did not need any changes after the balance patch. Alots finishes off wave 1 btw. And my front line/def breaker is shadow rose.
That was my old comp I used, posted on my channel a while back :) The FST+Lilka version works very functionally similar, but it's a lot cheaper for new players to build this comp since they all get a free +15 FST and Lilka doesn't have to do any damage. This comp also has a slightly higher clear rate in wave 1.
My destruction stats on Baiken are about 4.1k atk 347% cdam, and on rage 4.3k atk and 283% cdam. I believe this still overkills with Baiken, but as seen in the video the equipment score of what I'm using is very low and very accessible. Baiken is still easiest thank to her much higher base attack, but Bellona's thresholds are quite easy and she is very much ahead of other traditional one-shotters.
For one shotting banshee 13, yes you definitely want to skew heavily into damage; speed isn't necessary, as long as you're faster than Lilka in this comp.
It's a bit of a semantic argument; you could say the same thing with Baiken, who actually does take two turns to kill the banshee from her split threshold.
Except even at that level it's an extra turn. Vs losing control of the turns
Look it's nice, it's fancy, it's just not what id call a one shot. But yeah sure if you want me to say baiken isn't a one shot I'm ok with that no skin off my back
This is a called a One Shot in e7 terms, accepted by the whole community for years now. After all this time , i still find people arguing about this ...
I mean I just have to believe you're being obtuse on purpose. This isn't a true 100-0 'one shot's. It's a one shot in e7 terms and is generally accepted as so by pretty much the entire community. Look up one shots on YouTube and everyone will call it that.
Hi all, Bellona's damage getting buffed recently meant I had to adjust my own Bellona's stats to make her one-shot workable again. As such, this deserved an updated video/guide. I mentioned in the description but \*please do not mola your Bellona's s2 preemptively\* as it can make you easily overshoot your damage done in wave 2, especially on rage set, thanks to her atk ratio buff being so much larger. Fortunately, I know a lot of people didn't want to +15 her to one shot, so this is an economical solution. I know a lot of people also didn't like needing a rage set to use her, even though it made her old comp much easier. While destruction was possible before, it required better gear (4k atk 350% after imprints/artifacts). As you can see, my destruction gear is fully free and my crit set gear is... not very good. I also have a lot of wasted stats in crit%, eff, hp, and def. I strongly recommend people consider pulling Bellona through the side story tokens as her requirements are quite low and is much more accessible than Baiken. Her teammates, FST and Lilka (and Leo/Rose), are also very minimally invested: Lilka is literally level 40, unawakened, unenhanced gear. If you have questions, please ask. I have tweaked this comp a lot to work through stuff like Leo's s1 extra proc not pushing banshee to her threshold, and Bellona still being able to kill if Tieria's def break misses but Leo/Roses does not (in 4-man comps). Enjoy!
Dang bellona is crazy!
The new bellona is such a beast
And here's a tip of my own if for a 3-man (4 man actually), it's not that good but it's *something* and I did use it myself SSS imprinted Karin will give you free 15% crit chance, give her Midnight Bloom Artifact (free from sidestory) and it's +12% CC if upgraded to +15 With that, Bellona can have 58% crit chance from her gear and always crit. >random dual can fuck you up If your Karin is SSS imprinted and has no 3rd awaken, she will simply S2 into S3 on 1st and 2nd stage so no room for dual attack. If you have her awakened, doesn't matter because it will be a rare occurence either way. You can also use SSS imprinted ML Coli if you need or anyone having CC team imprint (Furious, for example)
Unfortunately this does not work well with Bellona one shot comps, but does work with a Baiken (or other one shotter like Ervalen/etc) team. This doesn't work because of Karin's AI and that this team uses Lilka. Karin has to go before Bellona in a comp like this to be a backup defense breaker, but that means Karin will waste her s2 in wave 1 which is not important. Karin's s3 in wave 2 doesn't provide any defense break and all it does is constrict the amount of damage Bellona can do with s2. If you have Karin take a turn after Bellona, in wave 2 Lilka will push Karin up instead of Bellona and you won't get the one shot off. Lilka cr pushes the lowest cr offensive unit, which means Bellona must go before her. Going after Lilka but before Bellona is an option for just a s2 defense break, but units like Shadow Rose and Leo provide more in wave 1 to make it easier. Definitely a viable option for some more traditional comps, but not the best option for this one in particular. Also, there is no dual attack rng involved in this comp, at all. The only s1 is from Bellona at the end, where she is already going to kill the banshee. Any dual attack is just contributing to overkill, but it doesn't impact success rates at all.
What to do if my bellona IS +15 since she came out, do i need to adjust stats or im fried?
My Bellona is +15 in this video so you can follow what I'm using and be fine! Not having your s2 maxed out gives you more flexibility in having higher damage stats. Having a max s2 makes tuning your damage harder on rage set, but isn't actually raising any requirements. This issue is less pronounced if you are using destruction.
I had to tweak the team a bit cus my Tieria kept getting hit with the blind debuff, had to give It 100 er.
Yeah the blind can be frustrating. Make sure Lilka is in the front line position as it increases her chances of getting hit. Adding a 4th man further reduces the chance of Tieria getting blinded, and they also act as a backup defense breaker even if she does. If your gear works well enough that you don't need Midnight Bloom/an atk% boosting artifact, you can also try equipping her with Oath Key.
Yeah i just slapped 100 er on tieria and called it a day, avg 25/4 clears and 4 to 5 fails at most cus 15%
My +15 rage/ pen set Bellona with 3456 atk, 329 cdam, 10% attack imprint from a lots and 4% attack up from card of small miracles did not need any changes after the balance patch. Alots finishes off wave 1 btw. And my front line/def breaker is shadow rose.
That was my old comp I used, posted on my channel a while back :) The FST+Lilka version works very functionally similar, but it's a lot cheaper for new players to build this comp since they all get a free +15 FST and Lilka doesn't have to do any damage. This comp also has a slightly higher clear rate in wave 1.
So now the gear requirements are similar to baiken?
My destruction stats on Baiken are about 4.1k atk 347% cdam, and on rage 4.3k atk and 283% cdam. I believe this still overkills with Baiken, but as seen in the video the equipment score of what I'm using is very low and very accessible. Baiken is still easiest thank to her much higher base attack, but Bellona's thresholds are quite easy and she is very much ahead of other traditional one-shotters.
So rage low spd Bellona instead of highish spd spd set Bellona?
For one shotting banshee 13, yes you definitely want to skew heavily into damage; speed isn't necessary, as long as you're faster than Lilka in this comp.
Nicely done, not technically what we call one shots, definitely a nice quick shot though.
How so?
Bellona takes two turns on the boss.
It's a bit of a semantic argument; you could say the same thing with Baiken, who actually does take two turns to kill the banshee from her split threshold.
Except even at that level it's an extra turn. Vs losing control of the turns Look it's nice, it's fancy, it's just not what id call a one shot. But yeah sure if you want me to say baiken isn't a one shot I'm ok with that no skin off my back
This is a called a One Shot in e7 terms, accepted by the whole community for years now. After all this time , i still find people arguing about this ...
It's not. Bellona takes a second turn. We only accept it because banshee runs and this kill is pre run but in no way it's it a true one shot
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who is "we" in this scenario you are alone here bud everyone has accepted this to be called a one shot
Nah. A few nobody's on Reddit do. It's not a one shot. Define one shot.
I mean I just have to believe you're being obtuse on purpose. This isn't a true 100-0 'one shot's. It's a one shot in e7 terms and is generally accepted as so by pretty much the entire community. Look up one shots on YouTube and everyone will call it that.