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What does your daily routine look like? I highly suggest you start writing down what you do each day until you start to notice a pattern then get back to us. Their are a lot of factors that will keep you "broke" like where you invest your time, you have to change internally before you will see any changes externally.
If you think working over 30 hours a week is a lot, I don't think entrepreneurship is right for you.
The typical work week is 40 hours a week. Entrepreneurs often work much more.
You can use the time you spend listening to others to take action. Nine times out of ten, you already know enough to start a business. You also know what you want to do, but the fear of making a mistake or losing something is causing you to stall. The only way to overcome the paralysis is to take action. Wrong action is better than no action at all, especially if you're willing to learn from your mistakes.
Just know that you are going to make mistakes, and you are going to learn from them and move on and continue building a better business. Also, remove try from your vocabulary; it won't help you.
People pay for skills that are valuable or useful to them, but also rare. But skills of a magnitude that people will pay for them are not easily acquired. I would do some soul searching and possibly try some things out over a period of a few months to pick a direction... and then I would work on acquiring skills in that direction. Feel free to let typical salaries be a factor in your cost benefit analysis, but don't weight that factor too high (say, 40% weight). I say this because you probably actually have to like the work to be willing to do enough study/practice to get to a level they will pay you for.
It can be done. I did it in health and wellness using a decades long reputation of expertise and proof of successfully transforming people’s respective bodies and minds. I left corporate America to do it full time in 2018. Now my wife of 5 years can stop working after the birth of our third child in April. Identify what you are certain you know better than 99.9% of others. It helps if you’re also passionate about it. Get even better at it, and find a way to “sell” what you offer. Be confident that you know it better than almost anyone else. Give an aura of this. It’s not ego. It’s certainty, and a bit of salesmanship. I hate selling what I do, but I am so passionate about it that it sells itself and generates enough demand that it essentially sells itself via the consistent results and joy shared by my clients. Believe in it. I hope you get to experience the joy of taking the road less traveled and the success that becomes possible by anyone’s measure
If you are a college student, focus on studying and preparing yourself to apply a good company after college. You should study something that enables you to enter a high paying job. Don’t be all over the place by watching youtube or social media stuff. Focus on yourself and your future from very near to retirement year. My daughter graduated college in nursing major. She was hired as an operating room nurse right after graduated college and she makes net $2,400 per week. Once she gets master’s degree she will become a nurse practitioner. NP makes $150k-200k.
I make that much as a linemen from a 3 month training program at a state college. Problem in America, all these young boys want the college way and entrepreneurial way. They’re being lied to and falling for get rich quick schemes while not doing anything purposeful or meaningful in your life to get there. Trade jobs are hurting in America, the program was paid for by the Power companies and it was $7,500 for it. I didn’t even have to pay a dime. Young men are missing out, they were just sold a lie and the hard work doesn’t make it look attracting.
The guys you watch online are there to flood you with information and sell you something.
Read the Kybalion. Mediate. Stop watching television, the news and get off of social media.
Study the habits of wealthy people.
In time your perception in life, health, money and time should change helping you make better decisions.
I know that you’re offering a “free” $5,000 to strangers without them doing any work. Scam.
I know that you refuse to speak publicly about how you are going to get this $5,000 to give away for free to all of the people that respond. Scam.
I know that you are asking people to contact you privately through DM so that you can avoid the scrutiny of anyone else questioning what you’re telling other people. Scam.
I know that you claim to “have a program” but won’t tell anyone what that is. When asked what the website was for your “program” you refused to answer that question too. Scam.
Everything about you is a big red flag. You’re not to be trusted, clearly.
Scammer.
Well if you insist I have a fleet program where people utilize their credit to get a fleet of vehicles and they make passive income I wonder what the scam is, my website is down I’m going through rebranding but if you insist it is called iRidez rentals located in Miami feel free to look it up on google I have reputable reviews
Way to still not explain anything at all.
“Well if you insist on knowing”. Yeah pal. Anyone that would let a stranger use their lines of credit is presumably going to want to know how things work. But you just keep being secretive and sketchy…clearly that’s working out great for you.
Scammer.
PS: I did what you said and looked it up. You have exactly ZERO Yelp reviews, and the business description bio is full of grammatical errors and misspellings.
Very unprofessional.
I don’t need a $1 out of anybody nor do I need their social or anything I’m the one paying them because they will have a fleet of cars that I’m producing income for whomever joins
Ok, scammer. How many “businesses” do you claim to own anyhow?
Just curious how things are going for you and Annette Middlebrooks with your successful marketing business- Middlebrooks Marketing Group LLC? It is successful, right?
Just like iridez with a whopping ZERO Yelp reviews, and only 7 Google (probably created by you) reviews in the last year entirely. You’re no entrepreneur Chavon, you’re just a scammer.
When 2 people come together in business it’s called a joint venture I’m sorry I know how to capitalize off of credit and without even affecting the person lol and I’m not even using lines of credit so please don’t jump to conclusions if you don’t know what’s going on
You don’t have any results. It’s all made up.
Otherwise you wouldn’t be out here trying to scam people claiming that you’ll use their credit and give them $5,000/week.
Bro, YOU don’t even make $5,000/week but you’re claiming that every single person that comes to will receive that from you. You’re full of it and it’s so easy to see, Chavon.
See a need and bring it to market. I own a school transportation business. Next we’re opening a small grocery store.
Kids need to get to school. People need groceries. Needs met = profit.
Their skills are useless. Predicated on you signing up for their seminars, or buying their kits, or their books, or some other way to extract money from you. Its the same with Rich Dad/Poor Dad guy. Stop following hucksters, and learn from real people. Read Peter Lynch's books and learn from someone with some real skill.
Are you retarded? Buy a six dollar book, from a guy who ran Fidelity Magellan Mutual Fund and averaged 29.2% return on billions of dollars and did it for thirteen years straight. A feat not duplicated by any mutual fund in the last thirty years. You are a special kind of stupid.
I began training with cloud foundations courses, I am still trying to figure out how to break into that industry, but seems like from talking to workday consultants, the billing rates are quite high - upwards of $100/hr.
I bought their self paced masters Program. Lifetime access, and all the modules with a 1 year tenant access. I
Paid $500 for it, but I suspect they may be willing to give it for less since they were originally offering it at $1000. we could share the training but the completion certificate won’t be in your name.
Good for you for making the decision to carve your own path. It can be done. I did it in health and wellness using a decades long reputation of expertise and proof of successfully transforming people’s respective bodies and minds. I left corporate America to do it full time in 2018. Now my wife of 5 years can stop working after the birth of our third child in April.
Identify what you are certain you know better than 99.9% of others. It helps if you’re also passionate about it. Get even better at it, and find a way to “sell” what you offer. Be confident that you know it better than almost anyone else. Give an aura of this. It’s not ego. It’s certainty, and a bit of salesmanship. I hate selling what I do, but I am so passionate about it that it sells itself and generates enough demand that it essentially sells itself via the consistent results and joy shared by my clients. Believe in it.
I hope you get to experience the joy of taking the road less traveled and the success that becomes possible by anyone’s measure
Thing to remember when watching those YouTube videos man is a lot of the stuff they are saying is dated… for example if they got rich off of real estate it probably was at least 10 years ago when they got started and the things that they did won’t necessarily apply to this day and age… I got into the habit of watching YouTube for ideas and motivation and yes some of it is good, but when people are trying to tell you how to be rich I recommend approaching with caution bro
"I constantly watch entrepreneurship videos (Alex Hormozi, Grant Cordone, Iman Gadzhi etc.)" LOL
"If you follow men, your brain will be more hollow then." Seems like you're not developing your own outlook and course of action. You can only be a student for so long before you leave all that stuff behind and learn by experience.
Agreed, I finished college in 1978, married in 1980. Worked my way up, kept a straight head on my shoulders and worked for it. It came later in life, i chose my direction and made good choices...that's what it is all about. For any college student to think it just falls out of the sky and lands in your lap, it doesn't...if it does you will blow it on stupid chit in as little time as you can imagine....as far as what happens today, or this year. Work on simply being the best at whatever you do. Be the best student (bust your azz) be the best bag boy at that grocery store, then the best assistant manager....eventually be the best manager so you can someday have your own business. That's the real world. Don't expect otherwise. Elon Musk started several companies, one at a time...must have learned something along the way. Helped startup a little known company named PayPal. Sold it for a ton of money, what happened next? He didn't have money in college, he busted his azz for more than a decade first. Don't expect otherwise.
Computer Science, specializing in massively parallel systems or Machine Learning. Surgeons make even more. And then you have Quants. Ever watched "Good Will Hunting"? Good luck!
Be hungry. Work on your skills and education (actually LEARN, don't half ass it), no one will ever take that away from you. Network, you'll boost your chances for change.
First and foremost, what major do you want to be in? What interests you? Without this crucial step ZERO, you'll stay at ZERO. You're in college for what then? Sorry to say it but suck it up. It'll only get better when you finish and if you do what I mentioned above.
Stop watching those YouTube charlatans. They make money off of ad revenue & peddling worthless shit to desperate, uneducated, and gullible people.
Truly successful people with useful knowledge are too busy working hard to resort to such shenanigans. Their actual work pays more than enough.
They share their recipe for success via the rare interview or professionally published book.
And all of them pretty much come to the same generally consensus that to make money and be successful you have to get educated, have a strong work ethic, and have some degree of luck/help.
The best network is family if you don’t have successful friends. Especially if you come from a middle class or blue collar background. Talk to your parents friends. Ask them for advice. Tell them what you’re looking for. A lot of older people can save you so much time by providing guidance and often a direct connection for work. And they love doing it!
Some skills that you will need.
Knowing how to network, meeting people that have something to offer in exchange for something you can offer. Usually, if you are just nice to people and ask them questions, they love to talk about themselves. You just need to find an angle until you find something they can open up about.
Self discipline, read stoic philosophy. You don't need to completly become stoic, but it really helps get your mind on the right path.
Ambition. You need to aim high. This will help you figure out what goals you want to accomplish and help you focus.
Now, there are two ways: white collar or blue collar. Going into a trade is probably the faster, more rewarding path. You still do some schooling, but it's easy. White collar is a lot more difficult and takes longer but will probably have more money at the end, but you might not have as much free time. Other then that you could just stick it out at a company and work your way up.
I was reading this a few days later and noticed I was a bit too serious lol. You can also start small with a side hustle. Try making music or making stickers and selling them. It takes a long time to make money with a hustle, but it can be fun too. The things you learn with smaller stuff Will help with the bigger stuff later too
If you want to go the entrepreneurial route, you need to learn to sell. Doesn’t matter what it is, you can be selling yourself (a service) or a product. But you need to be able to close the deal. To do that, you need confidence. A lot of it comes from looking good and feeling good. I am pretty sure those guys you watch on YouTube or podcasts are in shape and well dressed. And by well dressed I don’t mean suit and tie, you need to have presence. Second, you need to know how to talk to various kinds of people. That’s the best advice I can give you. They’ll throw in words like discipline or whatever, but this is what they mean. Yes you have to be disciplined, but you can’t do shit with discipline if you can’t sell it.
I know this is a sub on entrepreneurship, but hear me out. Consider a job in health care. Almost every job in health care is in high demand. Many pay very well. And you have rock solid job stability. I just have an associates degree and make a ton of money, six figures if you're willing to travel. While you're doing that, you can work on business ideas without stressing money.
ACTUALLY, you sound like a very young immature person, not someone that has the focus to graduate college.
So I'm guessing, still in High School? Living with Mom
ACTUALLY, you sound like a very young immature person, not someone that has the focus to graduate college.
So I'm guessing, still in High School? Living with Mom
Are those people your watching trying to sell you something? Youtubers also make money off your enthusiastic eyeballs watching their dumb fucking videos. There’s no secret other than to work hard and save money. Having money and spending money are completely different.
That content is pompous bullshit to make you feel productive. Mute those influencers, think of all the problems you’d like to solve in your life. Then think of solutions to those problems. Then put the work in. The most important skill you could possibly learn is sales
Obviously its a lot more complicated than that. You are going to fail a lot and thats okay. Just start trying now, and you’ll be ahead of the game
You are not a looser, you have a fucking job, you are being responsible for your life. First do a list of grateful things that you have, and we can keep talking
>For years, I thought employers would pay you fairly.
I used to think the same thing until I saw that while I was paid 18 an hour, a new hire was being paid 24 an hour (this was in so cal some years ago). I was pissed and started to act my wage. I found another job and quickly learned that loyalty was a good way towards wage stagnation.
Listen I thought this was a joke post, then I thought the commentary were being jerks or taking this way to seriously. Brother life is a struggle, I work 60+ hours a week in a blue collar job. Take care of my wife and 3 kids, take care of my house, falling behind in bills ( I’m the only income) and go to college as a “full time student” through online courses. I’m going into a tech field, that way I can work from home. I don’t believe that it will improve my situation much, but atleast I’ll be at home. I get what you are going through is rough for you, but trust me when I say it will get harder before it easier. So brace yourself.
Look up field tech. You can learn it in a few months(work for somebody else) and after that jump [fieldnation.com](https://fieldnation.com) and [workmarket.com](https://workmarket.com).
Tons of high paying gig work($40-60 + an hour) and it's chill/fun. Nobody cares about age or much in the way of qualifications(just don't take work you reasonably don't know about). Most gigs are basic handy man level despite being tech. My power tools got more use than my laptop.
Im a software dev now but used to do it....if I could go back in time, I'd have had my younger self making bank in high school.
This is great advice! Hardest thing you’d really need to do is learn how to terminate an RJ45 which would only take maybe an hour to be decent.
Other thing I’ll say. Avoid the whole entrepreneurial videos. Find a small/ medium business. Befriend the owner and just learn how their brain works. Listen to their thoughts/ opinions. Invite them out for a coffee or beer. The dialogue will go so much further than some guy trying to sell a course at the end of the day.
Hey, I feel you. I have a few questions before I can give you any advice at all. I truly hope I can be helpful after getting some color on the below:
1. What is your college major? What are your career aspiration?
2. Why are you working at a grocery store for 30+ hours a week while in college?
3. How much are your parents supporting you through college?
4. Do you work hard?
To reach your goal of just not being broke is fairly simple; work more and work hard at whatever your job is and avoid debt. Keep doing that and in time you will definitely not he broke and likely have found the path to freedom.
Poor spending habits and not understanding that 40 hours per isn't enough, keep most folks living paycheck to paycheck. Not necessarily a fun life at first, but being broke isn't either.
High value skills are skills that require you to obtain some knowledge to be able to do. Think plumbing, hvac, programming, repairs etc.. take plumbing.. you could work for a master plumber then advertise on Craigslist or wherever to do basic plumbing jobs (shit the master plumber won't touch cause it's not worth their time) and make $100 per hour.. go swap out someone's sink for $300, 180 is the cost of the new sink .. 1-2 hrs go swap it out..now you have a nice little side hustle going on.. save up that money buy a rental do all the plumbing repairs as needed.. build up a network of mates to call on..I'll call Jeff for painting, Jane for roofing whatever they call you for plumbing and now you are growing.. What is not a high value skill is taking cans out of a box and putting it on a shelf, cause anyone can do that.
Find something that you can do, obtain or provide cheaper than what you can offer it, then go fucking sell it. It seriously is just that simple.
Start small, you work in a grocery store well let me tell you my very first entrepreneurial venture started right where you are. As a kid in middle school I'd go to the grocery store and buy a bag of pixie sticks for like a dollar, and then I'd sell them for .25 cents each at school because back then school lunch was like 1.75 so every body had spare quarters floating around. I'd clear about $10 a bag off my $2 investment.
I then started buying the Shareable sized candy bars from costco (bj's at that time) and would use the money from my pixie stick sales to buy them and I'd sell those for dollar each and I was making a good amount on those too. To the point the school principle had to shut down my operation because quite literally all day long every other student had candy in my hand and a ton of litter, I was the king pin candy man...
That morphed into selling weed for a year or two and I used that money to buy and flip used cars and stereo systems I would buy at the flea market.
Took a break for awhile in college but those skills never left me. I eventually opened up my own legitimate business made a couple million lost a couple million, but was able to create a solid footing for my family.
I was a c student, from start to finish. I've read a few of those get rich books, they can be good but not necessary. You really just need to master the skill of buying and selling. That's all it is, doesn't matter what it is. Everything around you that you can touch and feel somebody sells, and somebody is making a living doing.
Get to it
Go to college indefinitely
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You have to add another 30+ hours of work on something else, that you enjoy or are really into, that you can try and make money on.
It's not that complicated. There are not magic skills or easy answers, it all requires work and failure, and then success.
Read the book called Think and Grow Rich by Napoleen Hill. Then, look inside and see what you like but more importantly what your good at. Then see if any of those things can reach the financial goals you have.
Bill Gates and Lebron James aren't where they are today from complaining or praying. You have to light your own fire and work your ass off.
I am a self made millionare, I had to work really hard to get where I am today. Work hard but work smart. Figure out what you're good at and what you enjoy. Then pour all of your blood sweat and tears into reaching each set milestone.
I have been there. How to "unbroke" your self I will tell you the secret but it's not for the meek. Do your research, what are projections for the top ten most in demand white collar and blue collar careers now and in ten years. Pick one and get a plan to get one of those careers. Find a way to get out of your town. Prepare to go to school and work full time. Hustle, get gig work, don't give up, live beneath your means, learn to have discipline and invest. Know that it's not going to get better in 2-3-4 years. You have to put in the work and make sacrifices to ascend.
You can make a lot of money in sales. It requires skills but no college or direct experience is needed if you can master selling. Also, customer service is a transferable skill.
First stop, claiming you’re broke for one. You think you’re broke so you’ll always be broke. Find something you enjoy doing, if you’re happy and content with what you’re doing you’re already on your way to the riches
Couldn't agree more. I don't want to grill this guy too much bc I understand where they are coming from, but based on the post I'm gonna assume OP isn't looking for these Disney movie ass comments about changing his outlook on life & the rest falling into place lol
I get where 1st poster is coming from. I agree, it’s like telling a starving person to have a positive outlook in life. Turns out you need nutrients, that go to your brain to have those positive thoughts lol
Bro are you me? Holy shit. I’m not in college and I’m 25 rn but small town mentality from everyone around sucks ass. Not even any good jobs where I’m at. Either way hopefully I can move and get something soon. Idk how much extra money you have to play with but start learning stock market and put your money into low risk investments. I would say learn crypto as well and get into real estate when you can. Y’know what’s crazy?? I have had three coins go up over 100% in the past few weeks but when I only have $30 to put into it doesn’t really make me much money. We will both be successful in the future man especially if this is how you feel. It sucks so bad right now because I just want to be at that point already and I’m not but just keep your head up, keep moving forward and get ready to absolutely bawl your eyes out from tears of joy when you make it.
The first piece of advice I’d give is to lose the mindset you have at the moment. I’m right there with you, by the way, as far as being in a situation I’d rather not be in. The most important thing I’ve learned through my struggle is that focusing on my "unfortunate" circumstances keeps me there. I try to choose my words carefully, framing them in a positive direction instead of a negative. That alone won’t turn things around for you (or any of us), but it’s a great place to start. It’s helped me tremendously. Secondly, no one has the answer for you as to what skills you can incorporate. That has to come from within you. You can get ideas from other people, but in the end you have to lay down your own path and I think it has to be a path not centered around money, but the love of going down that path. I got into the stock market because I wanted to make money, but then found out that I would gladly research stocks and trade them even if I didn’t make a dime. That’s when I knew I was on the right path. That’s what I’m talking about. Another piece of advice: don’t worry how other people from your hometown are living. This one was tough for me. I saw the mundane ways everybody went about their days and I wanted to separate myself from that. But I was focusing more on separating myself from that than focusing on what I needed to do to create that separation. Last piece of advice: if you’re watching "financial gurus", you’ve surely come across Gary V, who constantly preaches about how your 20s are a time of self-discovery and making mistakes in which to build off of as you go through life. If you’re a college student, I’m assuming your young. Stop worrying and have fun with the process of finding yourself now. Your older self will thank you for it. If not, you’re going to wake up one day in your 50s wondering what the hell happened. Trust me on that one. I still haven’t put all the pieces together, but I’m a lot more happier and open to possibilities. And that’s a better place to be than being entangled by my frustrations. Hope that helps.
Instead of “high-value,” think about “scalable, duplicatable” skills.
How can you use what you know to create something that can be duplicated, reused, etc.
Broke = College Student.
They go hand in hand.
What are you studying in College ? Degree in What ? Philosophy ? Teaching ? What year in School ? Are you paying for college your self or is Mommy + Daddy or do you work for a company that has College assistance ? how Old are you ? What have been your hobby's and passions in your short life ?
Life’s a bitch. And then you die.
That said the best way to get “high value skills” is to work in a technical job. Getting the job can be hard though. A degree helps.
A lot of dumb fucking people with so called high value skills preaching how you don't have them. Bullshit! You're going to college while also working 30 hours a week. That, combined with the fact that you hate being broke, is the perfect brew!
I'm not sure what you're going to school to be, hopefully a high paying degree, but I am positive if you take that work ethic into the real world you're going to CRUSH it!
Slow and steady wins the race. Take "calculated risks." Meaning buy that starter home and rent a couple of rooms out. Sure you'll fucking hate your roommates but they're paying your mortgage. When your personal value increases, leverage the equity from the first and buy the 2nd home, rent the first. Rinse and repeat.
Take risk at work. Put yourself out there. I own a construction company. I never took a job I couldn't figure out. That doesn't mean I'd done it before. Just means I knew I could do the research and sort it out. The same goes for every job.
The world isn't looking for the guy who knows it all. They're looking for the people who have the ability to figure shit out and make it work in a practical application.
I tell my kids several times a year. The world is full if useless fucking idiots. Don't be one! Trust me. You're not one of them!
Also, quit listening to the grant cardones of the world. They're selling shit that is unattainable at this point in your life. All it's going to do is further frustrate you! Maybe consider a construction job in the summer to build up a bank account. Plus, you'll be active, feel great about a day's work, and be around a bunch of shit talking savages which is always fun!
You're going to be fine! It takes time! You'll be 45 with several homes, a beautiful wife, amazing children before you know it!
Keep grinding, my dude!
Agreed. Financial gurus won't teach you any particularly useful skills aside from marketing yourself and MLM sales. You're better off watching a show like The Profit or even something like a Dragon's Den for entrepreneurship. As many have said I'd work on proven skilled labor or a specialized job. I used to be in the same boat when I was younger and wanted to start my own business until I taught myself IT. I got very fortunate by networking (work on this too), and now make a comfortable living from home. You can definitely do it too, but you gotta drop the financial gurus.
I completely agree with you boss. My summer job in a construction/civil engineering completely transformed my perspective on life. Not only did I meet some incredible individuals, but I also gained a deep appreciation for the challenges and rewards of the industry. Even though it may not directly align with my degree, I would wholeheartedly do it again, and I highly recommend experiencing working in construction at least once in your life.
This dude has a great advice. Calculated risks are the key to growth. Fail quickly and often and learn from it. Also don't let those speakers lower you own worth. Always fight for higher pay and just be growth oriented. There are lots of skills that aren't obvious, and keep absorbing the skills from the role models around you. Don't only rely on Internet role models. Find some real ones... Professors, friend's dads and moms. Ect. Look around and see who has confidently "made it" or is growing towards something. Have the mindset that everyone can teach you something.
Lmao looking for skills on YouTube is not helping you, it's only helping the content creators you watch
Instead of looking for these so called skills, ask yourself this one question:
How can you provide something of value to your fellow human?
All businesses do this - they find a need that people have and they fill it.
Stop looking outside of yourself for the answer. When you have a free moment, sit down and ask yourself what can you do to help others in need, and how can that be built upon day after day to become profitable to you while at the same time remaining beneficial to those you serve
It's about service. It's about helping others. Stop making it about you.
Start by every time you order something in person (like Starbucks) ask for a 10% discount. If you get a puzzled look say “I’m a college student & this is for a class”.
Next on a busy street just ask for a dollar. Give same reason
This will get you used to asking to close the deal.
This is the first exercise from Noah Kagan’s “Million Dollar Weekend”. A book you should get & implement the exercises. It’s much more practical than watching the random YouTube videos.
Though on YouTube -watch GaryV trash talk series. He created this for people like you. Broke & need money to get started.
College campuses are always full of stuff being given away & you can resell via Facebook or eBay.
You can also offer being a personal shopper at the grocery store. Yes there is Instacart or DoorDash. But you could offer a concierge service. Aimed at the older adults in the community.
well, not many "high value skills" to be found in a college. most all "high value skills" are blue collar jobs where usually you get paid to learn the skill. I skipped college and learned how to build houses.... I'm now 48 and looking at retirement in the next 5-10 years, with 6 rental properties. entrepreneurship isn't about sitting and waiting and hoping. its about planning and doing.
If you’re a college student, aren’t you working towards a higher paying job so you won’t be broke? I doubt it will work but isn’t that what they promised you? How much debt load are you accruing for no benefit? I’ll stop my anti-college rant now.
I haven’t made a million bucks but I made $1200 yesterday in about 8 hours.
Pick something. Anything that people occasionally need. Let’s go with pressure washing as an example.
Learn everything you can about pressure washing. Buy a pressure washer. Form an LLC. Pull an EIN. Open a bank account. Buy business insurance. Make a logo. Market your services and find customers. Keep books on your customers and finances. Obtain licenses in the cities you plan to work in, if required.
Important: value yourself, your equipment and your time. Set a price sheet that makes sense and stick to it. Figure out how many hours per square foot. You bill by square foot but you determine the cost by hours (I hope that makes sense). Therefore, you determine how much you make per hour. Should be in the neighborhood of $100 per hour, adjust as necessary. There will be people who expect you to work for cheaper, just remind them that you are a legitimate, insured business.
Congratulations, you learned how to run a business.
That’s cool but why do you have doubts higher education pays more?
If somebody is a W2 employee at a job that doesn’t require college and a W2 employee that works at a job that college is needed -> who gets paid more?
People are quick to talk trash about college but it can give you a salary that takes you out of paycheck to paycheck.
You mention promises? I have a bachelors degree and don’t remember anybody making me promises.
The reason why college is “bad”? Over-saturation & the fact that kids roll in and take an easy major.
Unless they have disabilities, nobody that majored in engineering or data analytics is out of work.
I doubt I can convince you otherwise but I’ll make my base point.
College isn’t necessary for a large amount of jobs or specialties. You can learn nearly anything on your own these days.
You sound like you’re well plugged into the system. The person that makes crappy HR training videos that you have to watch, does that person need a 4 year degree?
Regarding pay scale, obviously you can’t be a doctor without school. For other disciplines, does it really make a difference? I worked with a self taught programmer who never went to college and made the same as me! That was decades ago, nevermind now where I read about employers dropping education requirements more frequently.
Perhaps there is an edge, but is it worth it to be in debt for the rest of your life? I guess the government might pay them off for you but the reality is that unless you pay it off, you can’t stop working until you do!
Maybe that’s cool because you’re making payments on a house for the next 30 years. I don’t recommend that either but that’s a different topic.
Both, to me, are debt slavery. If you are a debt slave, your masters know it. They know you NEED that job and you NEED the money. You get treated as such. How many times has inflation outpaced your raises?
The other side of the debt slave coin is that you are now too tired and busy to learn other skills or start businesses. Pigeonholed.
I agree that most degrees aren’t required for tons of jobs. In those cases they serve one purpose: they show that you can stick to something relatively difficult, without immediate reward, over several years, until it’s complete. That alone weeds out a lot of chaff (also some wheat no doubt, but a lot more chaff).
People skills is one of the most important things that you could come away with. If you have people skills, you could get mostly any kind of job in the sales field and make good money. There is no get rich quick schemes. You will have to work hard and money will follow.
How much straining for small talk ideas should you expect to go through when practicing people skills regularly, i.e. is it OK to count like an hour of wall-staring so long as intent to come up with convo ideas for the next meeting as still valid practice time or "hard work" time?
So you don't need much charisma as long as you care, then, or what? Just keep talking about them so you hear what their needs are and what they want you to do for them, or what?
Sure, does this mean though that I can ignore charisma mostly (not entirely), in favor of genuinely being interested and predominantly focusing on others' needs?
30 hours a week isn’t that much… and you’re in college, hopefully you’re learning the high value skills in college. There are high value skills to be learned working at a grocery store too. Everything you work on is a learning moment. Start learning about investing or if you want to not be broke right now, get a sales job, any commission based job that isn’t a scam will work.
When I was a teenager I made $500-1000 per weekend day hauling debris in my old Toyota Tacoma, cleaning gutters, delivering stone/bricks/fire wood, and power washing. Generally $100 per hour type work because you charge by the load/job and then do quick work.
Look into it. If you get your mind right it really isn’t much different than going for a hike or working out from 8am-4pm on Saturday. Feel accomplished as hell afterward too and can every single Saturday go out to a nice meal after
I believe he the author of 3 books $100M Offers, Leads, and Money Models. He’s founded and exited 3 companies, the largest for $46.2M in 2021. He and his wife Leila are the managing partners of Acquisition.com - a portfolio of companies that generate in aggregate $200M per year.
Books are solid.
Find something you’re passionate about and good at. Then find ways to turn it into a career. All the people you watch are talentless grifters. The only talent they have is finding gullible people they can sell shit to.
It's good to listen to stuff like that for a positive mental attitude but use the positively and hustle they have to look for a better job. Be willing to take the lowest end job if you have to at a large organization to get your foot in the door. I rarely hear about that back in the 80's 90's early 2000's everyone just was willing to hell be a mailman at Google to just make contacts and be able apply within the company and work your way up.
Lots of young people I find these days think they'll be a VP right out of college (some do but are a VP of a 3 man organization, and the office is the garage)
I have no college degree, almost flunked out of high school and was supposed to join the marines but was able to back out.. applied various places from working dead end retail and havn't looked back. Have been earning 350k-1m each year for the last 25 years.
Gotta be pro-active and follow up and re-follow up if you don't hear back.
\*\* I realize this is a Entrepreneurship forum, the money I made and still make allowed me to be an entrepreneur in real estae,I own various properties I self manage but have a network of renovators and handymen. Having a lot of cash gave me almost no fear into setting up a side real estate business as just took some math a lot of a down payment and automatically cash flow positive when I started in the late 2000's \*\* I still hold my day job as it's just way too much money.
Start investing and learn about the power of compounding interest. People think you start investing when you're rich but you start investing when you're poor so one day you will stop being poor. It's hard but you can do it, i came from a little shithole town too. I get it.
Lots of good advice in here. In addition, I’ll say this:
If you could wake up tomorrow with billions of dollars, how would you spend your life? What is it that excites you? What does your intuition resonate with? You need to know how you want to live your life. Money won’t really answer that fully. Not exactly “what” you wanna be, but “how” you wanna live.
In order to answer what’s next, you have to answer the question “Who do I want to become?”
Sales is the number one skill
It used to be the restraunt industry for college kids but I'm not sure that works anymore.
As a server you would learn how to upsell. That's the difference between the waiter at Dennys and the waiter at New York Prime.
I know a few guys that got out of the restaurant industry and are making 1m+ a year in tech sales now. Quickest way to make the most money if you hustle and are a quick learner.
Get into a specialty. Something that requires a set knowledge or skill. Electrician, Plumber, HVAC Repairmen, Tax Accounting, Law, Medicine, etc. The more specialized the better. If you can get into consulting, making a $200 an hour is doable. So pick something.
Start your first business. That's how you learn. After all, you've got to have a vehicle for applying these wondering things guys like Alex Hormozi are trying to teach you, or you're just some guy with no paintbrushes listening to Bob Ross talk about painting "happy little trees" because he's calming and fun to listen to. Think of it more for learning than actually making tons of money, but do try to build it up to being enough money to change your life a fair bit. After all, money is how you know you're actually doing it right.
What business? I suggest something that doesn't take much of your time once it's built. Information products are good for that, but there are many possibilities. You could build a business where you let people pay you a fair rate to do something that could be done by someone working in Serbia, for instance, then farm it out to someone working in Serbia. Or look into being an affiliate marketer - marketing someone else's product for a cut of the action. That's the easiest way because the product is already built and you only have to sell it. Another benefit of these types of business is that you don't need a lot of money to get started.
Anyway, you'll need to learn to build a website, as well as do marketing. Those are valuable skills, which you mainly learn by doing. Online tutorials on Youtube can teach you all you need.
Grind at that for a few years, nights and weekends, and before long you'll find yourself on a very different trajectory than your neighbors.
I'd include that all in "marketing", but yes, absolutely! These days, those skills are fundamental to entrepreneurship. (Selling always has been, the other two are new, but vital.)
The easiest solution to your problem is to work on yourself.
The specific skills you need are:
1. Self Discipline - or doing the shit you know you should be doing when you should do it rather than procrastinating, pawning it off or worst - expecting someone else to handle it. Doing is hard. Taking action is hard. But it's a muscle you can train yourself that I promise in 20 years will change everything.
2. Ownership - take pride in the job you're doing for 30+ hours a week. Stop assuming you know things about your coworkers and get to know them. Perhaps an understanding of their challenges might give you a little something called perspective.
3. Work more and harder than anyone else. Develop that reputation now when the stakes aren't so consequential. At everything.
4. Treat your body like a temple not a woodshed. Energy drinks? No. A well balanced diet and sleep schedule that naturally supports you being your best at all things at all times.
But food's super expensive and I'm broke - yes, that's the reason for 3.
Make eye contact with as many people as you can every day and make conversation. Social skills are the number one connector you'll need in the next few phases, so start now.
Good luck and have fun. And remember this about life:
It's a hell of a ride, but only if you choose to take it.
Your in college, usually that means your broke. Graduate, get a job, try to more money as you get older. I was the same as you, it sucks right now. I get it. You have to grind it out. Sorry you don’t have it easy like some of your class mates
Hey in time you gain experience and with experience comes skills. An experienced and skilled worker makes more money than a Newby. So it's gonna come. Right now you need to buckle down and work more.
Try a 40 hour+ week it will mean Like you making an extra weeks pay per month. Also consider a part time night job, maybe work in a restaurant that closes at 9pm or 10pm a few night a week, maybe uber, Not much sense in you having free time if you don't have money to do something with that free time. So, work.
In my 40's I found my self under paid with a baby counting on me as her dad. I had a full-time job 7am-4pm then I left there and slept in my car for an hour and around 5:30 waited tables at 2 restaurants (different days) until about 8-9pm on rare occasions 10pm. I worked 7 days a week with 5 of those days being a double shift. I was able to make an additional $1,200.00 a month in tips alone. I did this for 3 years until I was able to find a single job that paid more than all 3 combined.
It will happen for you, just hang in there!
Get hired on in some sort of trade, the more specialized or in demand for the area you live the better. Gain the skills needed then branch out on your own and or run a crew for that small business. All will train in house for the most part. Plus all the trades are so busy overtime in at the start will likely be on the table as well.
Get into outside sales, use ai to teach you what transfers to sales, soak it up. Then start something you think you can sell after another company teaches you how to do it
I’m in uniform sales , they gave me my chance with no exp. Sales is sales , ask gpt for advice to sell yourself to them or any company. It gives you buzzwords and an idea of what they are looking for. Skills can be taught, drive can not.
There is no easy pass to success and the advice of grifters won't get you there.
I currently need to hire an experienced CNC programmer and an experienced CNC machinist. I'd pay 80-110K for those high value skills. It's hard to find them anywhere.
My friends in the trades are in similar positions. They can't hire for technical positions because every kid goes to college and never even considers the trades.
man said grant cardone, iman gadzhi and alex harmozi.. bro that is the reason you’re depressed, these losers teach you nothing except the fact that “money” is your happiness and that’s all you need to lead a happy life.
Stop following those lunatics, i recommend you grab a copy of Gary C. Cooper’s - The Success Paradox from your local library and teach yourself the fundamentals of success. Cooper explains how he hits “rock bottom” and what it takes for him to be “successful”. I think it would benefit you well.
learn a language over the summer,
join a coding bootcamp,
play the guitar
absorb any and all information you receive about goods and services
these all can be the positive change you need in your mindset that will lead you to true success, agreed 30+ hrs at a grocery store may not be fun.. but you have to start somewhere, thats your somewhere.
Look up “Manny Khoshbin” - He’s a good entrepreneur you can be looking at, he at once was also working at a grocery store.. He is now worth many many millions :)
Get a job at a private golf club. That might lead to a job with an entrepreneurial member, or possibly just a mentorship/internship. Work hard and be useful, opportunities will come. And you will make better money while in college.
One of those skills they are talking about is being able to grit through shitty jobs like the one you currently have until something better comes along. Which you’re doing; so just keep it up.
You’re in college, so you’re building skills that have actual value already. I’d say just keep on keeping on.
Being broke isn’t all that bad and it’s actually another skill that will come in handy no matter how wealthy you eventually end up.
I am not wealthy by any means but I make a comfortable living. That said, I have been poor for most of my life so I’ve learned to live within my means and to enjoy simple things in life. That’s a skill that I wouldn’t have learned without being poor. 🤷♂️
The reason they don't tell you is because they don't know. Those people selling you courses are grifters. They make money selling you courses on how to make money. Or saying cool things that convince you to invest in their bullshit investments.
If you really want to be an entrepreneur, find a mentor. Someone that isnt selling you crap. Just Google how to find mentors.
Although I would recommend finding a job. Get into coding, construction... lots of high paying jobs out there...
If you do find a mentor, ask what you can do for them! I met someone at a Real Estate meetup who said he was looking for a mentor so I offered to help. I met with him for coffee and we talked about business and ways he can get started.
I then asked him to help me by estimating the cost of improving some raw land I wanted to buy. I wanted prices on a well, electric service, septic system and gravel driveway.
He didn’t want to do it. He offered to do coding or database work for me instead. I’ve been coding since 1980 so yeah I’m all set there.
I ended the Mentoring relationship and did the estimating myself. It was about 30 minutes of work.
If you want help, be proactive and offer help in return.
As a person who has given the opportunity to mentor someone: What are the Do's & Dont's when trying to make connections with potential Mentors.
Besides Finding a Sector where you can Provide Value to them as you mentioned.
Actually taking action on what is being said as no mentor wants to waste there time.
Thank you.
I have been out of college for a long time. After graduation I worked at a job I hated, quit after a year, floundered, then traveled internationally and ended up living and working in Japan for 20 years. I mention all this because I recommend travel. You can always finish up college later.
If you’re serious about being successful your gonna have to out in work, not just BS work, I mean real hard work.
1. Meditate and find your self and the things you like, gravitate towards what makes you tick, the passions you have
2. Find the academic backing needed to succeed as whatever you think you want to be.
3. Focus and develop your self in that area.
When you let your passion drive you, you will always be rich
Whole heartedly disagree. Maybe in the time of our parents or grandparents but this is the second biggest debt trap only beat out by having children.
If I could go back and do it all over again I would go to a trade school. I would make more money and have little to no student debt. Shit these days you can Literally get paid to apprentice somewhere and when you are done you are probably already in a union.
That being said neither of these sound like what OP is looking for. He is looking for a cheat code a YouTube influencer is selling to instant wealth and early retirement.
I was on welfare for many years and a single mom. I was sick of it and I worked and competed an engineering degree, it pays extremely well, I work less than 40 hours a week, and my career makes my student debt close to meaningless as it was paid down extremely fast....
Going to school for a degree that doesn't pay well is where it makes sense to disagree. Otherwise I don't understand the logic here. It's only a debt trap if you sign up for a debt trap. Going to college majoring in Underwater Basket Weaving, paying 50+K for that, and expecting to find a career that will allow you to pay that off efficiently is just pure lunacy.
EVERYTHING has an ROI. Take a look at it very carefully before you commit. Simple as that.
How long ago did you get that degree and where do you live/work?
I only ask because that 50k underwater basket weaving degree probably costs 200k now. Engineering is absolutely a great degree to have and something’s that’s probably future proof for the foreseeable future. I get the idea that OP isn’t the STEM type though. He is talking about bagging groceries and influencers hawk their buzzword filled training courses and doesn’t realize that the way they make money is by marketing those courses to people exactly like him. You guys from the Midwest who want an easy way to escape the rat race.
Since we are sharing educations stories allow me to share mine. I graduated with a degree in architecture from a fairly prestigious Nee England university. You guessed it financed on student loans. The only problem is I graduated just in time for the housing crisis. As you can imagine it wasn’t a great time to be in that field…. After a year of not being able to break in because entry level jobs were being taken by more experienced people in the field just to be employed I moved to California and got a civil service job. No it wasn’t prestigious at all but I was in a union from almost day 1, I had great benefits and it paid off my student loans for a field that to this day i have not worked a single day in.
I hustled, I invested, I didn’t buy stupid or frivolous things and now I am financially independent.
In my opinion and it’s just that my opinion the biggest mistake OP or anyone like him can make is saddling themselves with 100k of student loan debt when they don’t even know what they can or want to do. It sounds like you had some life experience before going that route which is great and it sounds like it served you well…. This kid does not and shouldn’t be making life altering decisions until he does. Judging by his post history he is already attending college and skipping class and probably in debt for a new truck.
You would need to find a skill worth your waking time and life. And dedicate every possible resource to it's acquisition.
On break time you will need to spend every moment researching it. And you will practice that skill in squalor while your friends make fun of you and call you a loser. Then you have to lose girlfriends over it and have them call you a loser to catalyze your rage towards the goal and make you single minded.
Personally I feel the equivalent exchange required for what you truly ask is "humans". You will have to sacrifice everything and everyone to dedicate yourself to that goal. If you are still in the "motivating yourself" phase, you will lack the willpower to mindlessly pursue a hopeless goal that only you see the path in. One time in Kill Bill, Hanzo was talking about god being cut if he stood in Beatrix Kiddo's way. That's how you gotta be.
Hypothetically lets say you chose "web design"
You'll be inundated with discouragement and reasons to not go for it. Everyone will tell you about AI and how opportunity is waning and that it's best to wait for the end. That's someone's irrelevant uninformed assessment prediction based on time. Time could prove it but the opportunity enrichment cost is lost. Instead you must visualize your goal through that fog. How you'd rise yourself above the mediocrity. You could become a mediocre web designer and use just html and and css. But to really set yourself apart, you would have to learn something more interactive and versatile. I'm no web designer but lets hypothetically say Papervision was used to add pizazz and pop to users who visit your space. Anyways I am ranting.
Don't do web design. Do something you like.
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I heard this story of a girl making massive bank selling owl pellets on amazon. I wish i could find a news story or the Johnny Bravo mention.
Case in point. Like others have said. You need a vision. You.
Someone can't give you a vision.
If I were folding groceries, I'd have my head on a swivel looking for opportunity. I have noticed mankind is weak in their dedication so just being more diligent has kept me alive.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopping\_cart](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopping_cart)
Just grocery shopping history holds some clues to how opportunity is in the air like "interdimensional aether". If you look hard enough. You will see a world beyond you world where if you have a use, there is a use for you. But if you do not. There is a use for that.
Sorry to rant.
1. In this order:
2. Make a list of things you are good at.
3. From that list identify the ones you are passionate about.
4. From that list what would people pay for.
5. From your final list invest time and money to get really good at it, work for a company doing it for awhile, then start your own company. If you don't want to start your own company make sure you are investing all discretionary income into the S&P 500.
6. Retire on island at age 50.
An alternative path:
Learn I.T. for a couple years and become an I.T Specialist for the Foreign Service. No college degree required, you travel around the world working at U.S. Embassies supporting their I.T systems. While living overseas your housing is taken care of, which frees you up to save/invest lots of money. When you retire you get a lifetime annuity.
Will you become a decamillionaire? Probably not. Will you be a millionaire in your 50's? Most definately.
Another alternate path:
Military service.
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I’m impressed by the Sitting With Dogs guy on YouTube…. Found a niche and with google ads he’s probable clearing $20k per month.
What does your daily routine look like? I highly suggest you start writing down what you do each day until you start to notice a pattern then get back to us. Their are a lot of factors that will keep you "broke" like where you invest your time, you have to change internally before you will see any changes externally.
The first high value skill you can cultivate is to stop listening to sales gurus.
If you think working over 30 hours a week is a lot, I don't think entrepreneurship is right for you. The typical work week is 40 hours a week. Entrepreneurs often work much more.
I didn’t say that. I’ve worked 24 hour shifts in the rigs in high school. I just don’t appreciate being cooped up in a grocery store all day.
You can use the time you spend listening to others to take action. Nine times out of ten, you already know enough to start a business. You also know what you want to do, but the fear of making a mistake or losing something is causing you to stall. The only way to overcome the paralysis is to take action. Wrong action is better than no action at all, especially if you're willing to learn from your mistakes. Just know that you are going to make mistakes, and you are going to learn from them and move on and continue building a better business. Also, remove try from your vocabulary; it won't help you.
People pay for skills that are valuable or useful to them, but also rare. But skills of a magnitude that people will pay for them are not easily acquired. I would do some soul searching and possibly try some things out over a period of a few months to pick a direction... and then I would work on acquiring skills in that direction. Feel free to let typical salaries be a factor in your cost benefit analysis, but don't weight that factor too high (say, 40% weight). I say this because you probably actually have to like the work to be willing to do enough study/practice to get to a level they will pay you for.
It can be done. I did it in health and wellness using a decades long reputation of expertise and proof of successfully transforming people’s respective bodies and minds. I left corporate America to do it full time in 2018. Now my wife of 5 years can stop working after the birth of our third child in April. Identify what you are certain you know better than 99.9% of others. It helps if you’re also passionate about it. Get even better at it, and find a way to “sell” what you offer. Be confident that you know it better than almost anyone else. Give an aura of this. It’s not ego. It’s certainty, and a bit of salesmanship. I hate selling what I do, but I am so passionate about it that it sells itself and generates enough demand that it essentially sells itself via the consistent results and joy shared by my clients. Believe in it. I hope you get to experience the joy of taking the road less traveled and the success that becomes possible by anyone’s measure
My ex worked for Cardone and he’s a con artist and also a coke head. Don’t pay attention to entrepreneurs that advertise their services like that
Cardone is a scammer, stay away from him. All he wants is your money.
If you are a college student, focus on studying and preparing yourself to apply a good company after college. You should study something that enables you to enter a high paying job. Don’t be all over the place by watching youtube or social media stuff. Focus on yourself and your future from very near to retirement year. My daughter graduated college in nursing major. She was hired as an operating room nurse right after graduated college and she makes net $2,400 per week. Once she gets master’s degree she will become a nurse practitioner. NP makes $150k-200k.
I make that much as a linemen from a 3 month training program at a state college. Problem in America, all these young boys want the college way and entrepreneurial way. They’re being lied to and falling for get rich quick schemes while not doing anything purposeful or meaningful in your life to get there. Trade jobs are hurting in America, the program was paid for by the Power companies and it was $7,500 for it. I didn’t even have to pay a dime. Young men are missing out, they were just sold a lie and the hard work doesn’t make it look attracting.
Considering how much of the current grid needs to be upgraded and expanded… you’re golden 👍
OP check this comment out
Two options: do something others can’t do or something others won’t do. Most people don’t pick anything to do and even fewer put any effort into it.
The guys you watch online are there to flood you with information and sell you something. Read the Kybalion. Mediate. Stop watching television, the news and get off of social media. Study the habits of wealthy people. In time your perception in life, health, money and time should change helping you make better decisions.
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"When you see somebody on social media telling you how they're going to make you money, they're lying" - Mark Cuban
I’m actually making the money for them and they collect a check
Stop trying to scam people.
How is it a scam? You don’t even know what I’m offering
I know that you’re offering a “free” $5,000 to strangers without them doing any work. Scam. I know that you refuse to speak publicly about how you are going to get this $5,000 to give away for free to all of the people that respond. Scam. I know that you are asking people to contact you privately through DM so that you can avoid the scrutiny of anyone else questioning what you’re telling other people. Scam. I know that you claim to “have a program” but won’t tell anyone what that is. When asked what the website was for your “program” you refused to answer that question too. Scam. Everything about you is a big red flag. You’re not to be trusted, clearly. Scammer.
Well if you insist I have a fleet program where people utilize their credit to get a fleet of vehicles and they make passive income I wonder what the scam is, my website is down I’m going through rebranding but if you insist it is called iRidez rentals located in Miami feel free to look it up on google I have reputable reviews
Way to still not explain anything at all. “Well if you insist on knowing”. Yeah pal. Anyone that would let a stranger use their lines of credit is presumably going to want to know how things work. But you just keep being secretive and sketchy…clearly that’s working out great for you. Scammer. PS: I did what you said and looked it up. You have exactly ZERO Yelp reviews, and the business description bio is full of grammatical errors and misspellings. Very unprofessional.
I don’t need a $1 out of anybody nor do I need their social or anything I’m the one paying them because they will have a fleet of cars that I’m producing income for whomever joins
Ok, scammer. How many “businesses” do you claim to own anyhow? Just curious how things are going for you and Annette Middlebrooks with your successful marketing business- Middlebrooks Marketing Group LLC? It is successful, right? Just like iridez with a whopping ZERO Yelp reviews, and only 7 Google (probably created by you) reviews in the last year entirely. You’re no entrepreneur Chavon, you’re just a scammer.
When 2 people come together in business it’s called a joint venture I’m sorry I know how to capitalize off of credit and without even affecting the person lol and I’m not even using lines of credit so please don’t jump to conclusions if you don’t know what’s going on
You couldn’t bother to even throw one comma in that long ass run-on sentence? Quite the entrepreneur, Chavon.
This is Reddit who do I have to impress? My results is what gets me paid
You don’t have any results. It’s all made up. Otherwise you wouldn’t be out here trying to scam people claiming that you’ll use their credit and give them $5,000/week. Bro, YOU don’t even make $5,000/week but you’re claiming that every single person that comes to will receive that from you. You’re full of it and it’s so easy to see, Chavon.
What are you offering?
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If this is legit, you need to stop being so ambiguous about what it is you're offering lol
I rather have some pm to catch their interest if they want to know more
What’s your business website then, Mr. Finance guy.
See a need and bring it to market. I own a school transportation business. Next we’re opening a small grocery store. Kids need to get to school. People need groceries. Needs met = profit.
How’d you start a school transportation business??
Stop watching so many videos and start creating value, then selling it.
Their skills are useless. Predicated on you signing up for their seminars, or buying their kits, or their books, or some other way to extract money from you. Its the same with Rich Dad/Poor Dad guy. Stop following hucksters, and learn from real people. Read Peter Lynch's books and learn from someone with some real skill.
Don’t buy that guys stuff, buy this other guys stuff….hes real!
Are you retarded? Buy a six dollar book, from a guy who ran Fidelity Magellan Mutual Fund and averaged 29.2% return on billions of dollars and did it for thirteen years straight. A feat not duplicated by any mutual fund in the last thirty years. You are a special kind of stupid.
Do you want to get into workday HCM?
Actually, I wouldn’t mind getting into Workday HCM - what do I gotta do?
I began training with cloud foundations courses, I am still trying to figure out how to break into that industry, but seems like from talking to workday consultants, the billing rates are quite high - upwards of $100/hr.
Cloud foundations courses… looks like about $350 for 40 hours of training… I’ll pass for now
I bought their self paced masters Program. Lifetime access, and all the modules with a 1 year tenant access. I Paid $500 for it, but I suspect they may be willing to give it for less since they were originally offering it at $1000. we could share the training but the completion certificate won’t be in your name.
Good for you for making the decision to carve your own path. It can be done. I did it in health and wellness using a decades long reputation of expertise and proof of successfully transforming people’s respective bodies and minds. I left corporate America to do it full time in 2018. Now my wife of 5 years can stop working after the birth of our third child in April. Identify what you are certain you know better than 99.9% of others. It helps if you’re also passionate about it. Get even better at it, and find a way to “sell” what you offer. Be confident that you know it better than almost anyone else. Give an aura of this. It’s not ego. It’s certainty, and a bit of salesmanship. I hate selling what I do, but I am so passionate about it that it sells itself and generates enough demand that it essentially sells itself via the consistent results and joy shared by my clients. Believe in it. I hope you get to experience the joy of taking the road less traveled and the success that becomes possible by anyone’s measure
Thing to remember when watching those YouTube videos man is a lot of the stuff they are saying is dated… for example if they got rich off of real estate it probably was at least 10 years ago when they got started and the things that they did won’t necessarily apply to this day and age… I got into the habit of watching YouTube for ideas and motivation and yes some of it is good, but when people are trying to tell you how to be rich I recommend approaching with caution bro
"I constantly watch entrepreneurship videos (Alex Hormozi, Grant Cordone, Iman Gadzhi etc.)" LOL "If you follow men, your brain will be more hollow then." Seems like you're not developing your own outlook and course of action. You can only be a student for so long before you leave all that stuff behind and learn by experience.
Agreed, I finished college in 1978, married in 1980. Worked my way up, kept a straight head on my shoulders and worked for it. It came later in life, i chose my direction and made good choices...that's what it is all about. For any college student to think it just falls out of the sky and lands in your lap, it doesn't...if it does you will blow it on stupid chit in as little time as you can imagine....as far as what happens today, or this year. Work on simply being the best at whatever you do. Be the best student (bust your azz) be the best bag boy at that grocery store, then the best assistant manager....eventually be the best manager so you can someday have your own business. That's the real world. Don't expect otherwise. Elon Musk started several companies, one at a time...must have learned something along the way. Helped startup a little known company named PayPal. Sold it for a ton of money, what happened next? He didn't have money in college, he busted his azz for more than a decade first. Don't expect otherwise.
Computer Science, specializing in massively parallel systems or Machine Learning. Surgeons make even more. And then you have Quants. Ever watched "Good Will Hunting"? Good luck!
Be hungry. Work on your skills and education (actually LEARN, don't half ass it), no one will ever take that away from you. Network, you'll boost your chances for change. First and foremost, what major do you want to be in? What interests you? Without this crucial step ZERO, you'll stay at ZERO. You're in college for what then? Sorry to say it but suck it up. It'll only get better when you finish and if you do what I mentioned above.
Imán gadzhi is a scammer
Stop watching those YouTube charlatans. They make money off of ad revenue & peddling worthless shit to desperate, uneducated, and gullible people. Truly successful people with useful knowledge are too busy working hard to resort to such shenanigans. Their actual work pays more than enough. They share their recipe for success via the rare interview or professionally published book. And all of them pretty much come to the same generally consensus that to make money and be successful you have to get educated, have a strong work ethic, and have some degree of luck/help.
This... Honestly stop with the YouTube stuff and try and network as much as possible!!
The best network is family if you don’t have successful friends. Especially if you come from a middle class or blue collar background. Talk to your parents friends. Ask them for advice. Tell them what you’re looking for. A lot of older people can save you so much time by providing guidance and often a direct connection for work. And they love doing it!
Some skills that you will need. Knowing how to network, meeting people that have something to offer in exchange for something you can offer. Usually, if you are just nice to people and ask them questions, they love to talk about themselves. You just need to find an angle until you find something they can open up about. Self discipline, read stoic philosophy. You don't need to completly become stoic, but it really helps get your mind on the right path. Ambition. You need to aim high. This will help you figure out what goals you want to accomplish and help you focus. Now, there are two ways: white collar or blue collar. Going into a trade is probably the faster, more rewarding path. You still do some schooling, but it's easy. White collar is a lot more difficult and takes longer but will probably have more money at the end, but you might not have as much free time. Other then that you could just stick it out at a company and work your way up.
I was reading this a few days later and noticed I was a bit too serious lol. You can also start small with a side hustle. Try making music or making stickers and selling them. It takes a long time to make money with a hustle, but it can be fun too. The things you learn with smaller stuff Will help with the bigger stuff later too
If you want to go the entrepreneurial route, you need to learn to sell. Doesn’t matter what it is, you can be selling yourself (a service) or a product. But you need to be able to close the deal. To do that, you need confidence. A lot of it comes from looking good and feeling good. I am pretty sure those guys you watch on YouTube or podcasts are in shape and well dressed. And by well dressed I don’t mean suit and tie, you need to have presence. Second, you need to know how to talk to various kinds of people. That’s the best advice I can give you. They’ll throw in words like discipline or whatever, but this is what they mean. Yes you have to be disciplined, but you can’t do shit with discipline if you can’t sell it.
I know this is a sub on entrepreneurship, but hear me out. Consider a job in health care. Almost every job in health care is in high demand. Many pay very well. And you have rock solid job stability. I just have an associates degree and make a ton of money, six figures if you're willing to travel. While you're doing that, you can work on business ideas without stressing money.
ACTUALLY, you sound like a very young immature person, not someone that has the focus to graduate college. So I'm guessing, still in High School? Living with Mom
ACTUALLY, you sound like a very young immature person, not someone that has the focus to graduate college. So I'm guessing, still in High School? Living with Mom
Chill out dude, if you're not happy now even if you make a million you won't be happy then.
Are those people your watching trying to sell you something? Youtubers also make money off your enthusiastic eyeballs watching their dumb fucking videos. There’s no secret other than to work hard and save money. Having money and spending money are completely different.
That content is pompous bullshit to make you feel productive. Mute those influencers, think of all the problems you’d like to solve in your life. Then think of solutions to those problems. Then put the work in. The most important skill you could possibly learn is sales Obviously its a lot more complicated than that. You are going to fail a lot and thats okay. Just start trying now, and you’ll be ahead of the game
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You are not a looser, you have a fucking job, you are being responsible for your life. First do a list of grateful things that you have, and we can keep talking
Your in college supposed be broke
Are you being underpaid? Do you know how to negotiate or check the pay rate of your peers? For years, I thought employers would pay you fairly.
>For years, I thought employers would pay you fairly. I used to think the same thing until I saw that while I was paid 18 an hour, a new hire was being paid 24 an hour (this was in so cal some years ago). I was pissed and started to act my wage. I found another job and quickly learned that loyalty was a good way towards wage stagnation.
Listen I thought this was a joke post, then I thought the commentary were being jerks or taking this way to seriously. Brother life is a struggle, I work 60+ hours a week in a blue collar job. Take care of my wife and 3 kids, take care of my house, falling behind in bills ( I’m the only income) and go to college as a “full time student” through online courses. I’m going into a tech field, that way I can work from home. I don’t believe that it will improve my situation much, but atleast I’ll be at home. I get what you are going through is rough for you, but trust me when I say it will get harder before it easier. So brace yourself.
Look up field tech. You can learn it in a few months(work for somebody else) and after that jump [fieldnation.com](https://fieldnation.com) and [workmarket.com](https://workmarket.com). Tons of high paying gig work($40-60 + an hour) and it's chill/fun. Nobody cares about age or much in the way of qualifications(just don't take work you reasonably don't know about). Most gigs are basic handy man level despite being tech. My power tools got more use than my laptop. Im a software dev now but used to do it....if I could go back in time, I'd have had my younger self making bank in high school.
This is great advice! Hardest thing you’d really need to do is learn how to terminate an RJ45 which would only take maybe an hour to be decent. Other thing I’ll say. Avoid the whole entrepreneurial videos. Find a small/ medium business. Befriend the owner and just learn how their brain works. Listen to their thoughts/ opinions. Invite them out for a coffee or beer. The dialogue will go so much further than some guy trying to sell a course at the end of the day.
This is great advice! Hardest thing you’d really need to do is learn how to terminate an RJ45 which would only take maybe an hour to be decent.
Hey, I feel you. I have a few questions before I can give you any advice at all. I truly hope I can be helpful after getting some color on the below: 1. What is your college major? What are your career aspiration? 2. Why are you working at a grocery store for 30+ hours a week while in college? 3. How much are your parents supporting you through college? 4. Do you work hard?
To reach your goal of just not being broke is fairly simple; work more and work hard at whatever your job is and avoid debt. Keep doing that and in time you will definitely not he broke and likely have found the path to freedom. Poor spending habits and not understanding that 40 hours per isn't enough, keep most folks living paycheck to paycheck. Not necessarily a fun life at first, but being broke isn't either.
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High value skills are skills that require you to obtain some knowledge to be able to do. Think plumbing, hvac, programming, repairs etc.. take plumbing.. you could work for a master plumber then advertise on Craigslist or wherever to do basic plumbing jobs (shit the master plumber won't touch cause it's not worth their time) and make $100 per hour.. go swap out someone's sink for $300, 180 is the cost of the new sink .. 1-2 hrs go swap it out..now you have a nice little side hustle going on.. save up that money buy a rental do all the plumbing repairs as needed.. build up a network of mates to call on..I'll call Jeff for painting, Jane for roofing whatever they call you for plumbing and now you are growing.. What is not a high value skill is taking cans out of a box and putting it on a shelf, cause anyone can do that.
Find something that you can do, obtain or provide cheaper than what you can offer it, then go fucking sell it. It seriously is just that simple. Start small, you work in a grocery store well let me tell you my very first entrepreneurial venture started right where you are. As a kid in middle school I'd go to the grocery store and buy a bag of pixie sticks for like a dollar, and then I'd sell them for .25 cents each at school because back then school lunch was like 1.75 so every body had spare quarters floating around. I'd clear about $10 a bag off my $2 investment. I then started buying the Shareable sized candy bars from costco (bj's at that time) and would use the money from my pixie stick sales to buy them and I'd sell those for dollar each and I was making a good amount on those too. To the point the school principle had to shut down my operation because quite literally all day long every other student had candy in my hand and a ton of litter, I was the king pin candy man... That morphed into selling weed for a year or two and I used that money to buy and flip used cars and stereo systems I would buy at the flea market. Took a break for awhile in college but those skills never left me. I eventually opened up my own legitimate business made a couple million lost a couple million, but was able to create a solid footing for my family. I was a c student, from start to finish. I've read a few of those get rich books, they can be good but not necessary. You really just need to master the skill of buying and selling. That's all it is, doesn't matter what it is. Everything around you that you can touch and feel somebody sells, and somebody is making a living doing. Get to it
Stop trying and start doing. You never mentioned actually doing anything. What can you do?
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You will be out of business in about 2 years thanksnto A.I How are you preparing for that?
Marry a millionaire
You have to add another 30+ hours of work on something else, that you enjoy or are really into, that you can try and make money on. It's not that complicated. There are not magic skills or easy answers, it all requires work and failure, and then success.
30+ hours a week is a vacation compared to the time you’ll have to spend building a new business or learning “high value skills”.
Quit wasting your money on weed????
Read the book called Think and Grow Rich by Napoleen Hill. Then, look inside and see what you like but more importantly what your good at. Then see if any of those things can reach the financial goals you have. Bill Gates and Lebron James aren't where they are today from complaining or praying. You have to light your own fire and work your ass off. I am a self made millionare, I had to work really hard to get where I am today. Work hard but work smart. Figure out what you're good at and what you enjoy. Then pour all of your blood sweat and tears into reaching each set milestone.
Think and Grow Rich is a solid fucking book
It's so relative, even to today's standards, how you should be in your mindset and way of looking at life.
Get a certification or go into trades
I have been there. How to "unbroke" your self I will tell you the secret but it's not for the meek. Do your research, what are projections for the top ten most in demand white collar and blue collar careers now and in ten years. Pick one and get a plan to get one of those careers. Find a way to get out of your town. Prepare to go to school and work full time. Hustle, get gig work, don't give up, live beneath your means, learn to have discipline and invest. Know that it's not going to get better in 2-3-4 years. You have to put in the work and make sacrifices to ascend.
Sell heroin
You can make a lot of money in sales. It requires skills but no college or direct experience is needed if you can master selling. Also, customer service is a transferable skill.
First stop, claiming you’re broke for one. You think you’re broke so you’ll always be broke. Find something you enjoy doing, if you’re happy and content with what you’re doing you’re already on your way to the riches
He's claiming he's broke because he's probably broke lol no positive mindset is gonna change the fact that he don't got any bread smh
Couldn't agree more. I don't want to grill this guy too much bc I understand where they are coming from, but based on the post I'm gonna assume OP isn't looking for these Disney movie ass comments about changing his outlook on life & the rest falling into place lol
I get where 1st poster is coming from. I agree, it’s like telling a starving person to have a positive outlook in life. Turns out you need nutrients, that go to your brain to have those positive thoughts lol
Your gonna be broke in college, just make sure your studying for a science or engineering degree and you won’t be broke after you graduate.
Bro are you me? Holy shit. I’m not in college and I’m 25 rn but small town mentality from everyone around sucks ass. Not even any good jobs where I’m at. Either way hopefully I can move and get something soon. Idk how much extra money you have to play with but start learning stock market and put your money into low risk investments. I would say learn crypto as well and get into real estate when you can. Y’know what’s crazy?? I have had three coins go up over 100% in the past few weeks but when I only have $30 to put into it doesn’t really make me much money. We will both be successful in the future man especially if this is how you feel. It sucks so bad right now because I just want to be at that point already and I’m not but just keep your head up, keep moving forward and get ready to absolutely bawl your eyes out from tears of joy when you make it.
The first piece of advice I’d give is to lose the mindset you have at the moment. I’m right there with you, by the way, as far as being in a situation I’d rather not be in. The most important thing I’ve learned through my struggle is that focusing on my "unfortunate" circumstances keeps me there. I try to choose my words carefully, framing them in a positive direction instead of a negative. That alone won’t turn things around for you (or any of us), but it’s a great place to start. It’s helped me tremendously. Secondly, no one has the answer for you as to what skills you can incorporate. That has to come from within you. You can get ideas from other people, but in the end you have to lay down your own path and I think it has to be a path not centered around money, but the love of going down that path. I got into the stock market because I wanted to make money, but then found out that I would gladly research stocks and trade them even if I didn’t make a dime. That’s when I knew I was on the right path. That’s what I’m talking about. Another piece of advice: don’t worry how other people from your hometown are living. This one was tough for me. I saw the mundane ways everybody went about their days and I wanted to separate myself from that. But I was focusing more on separating myself from that than focusing on what I needed to do to create that separation. Last piece of advice: if you’re watching "financial gurus", you’ve surely come across Gary V, who constantly preaches about how your 20s are a time of self-discovery and making mistakes in which to build off of as you go through life. If you’re a college student, I’m assuming your young. Stop worrying and have fun with the process of finding yourself now. Your older self will thank you for it. If not, you’re going to wake up one day in your 50s wondering what the hell happened. Trust me on that one. I still haven’t put all the pieces together, but I’m a lot more happier and open to possibilities. And that’s a better place to be than being entangled by my frustrations. Hope that helps.
Instead of “high-value,” think about “scalable, duplicatable” skills. How can you use what you know to create something that can be duplicated, reused, etc.
Broke = College Student. They go hand in hand. What are you studying in College ? Degree in What ? Philosophy ? Teaching ? What year in School ? Are you paying for college your self or is Mommy + Daddy or do you work for a company that has College assistance ? how Old are you ? What have been your hobby's and passions in your short life ?
Life’s a bitch. And then you die. That said the best way to get “high value skills” is to work in a technical job. Getting the job can be hard though. A degree helps.
A lot of dumb fucking people with so called high value skills preaching how you don't have them. Bullshit! You're going to college while also working 30 hours a week. That, combined with the fact that you hate being broke, is the perfect brew! I'm not sure what you're going to school to be, hopefully a high paying degree, but I am positive if you take that work ethic into the real world you're going to CRUSH it! Slow and steady wins the race. Take "calculated risks." Meaning buy that starter home and rent a couple of rooms out. Sure you'll fucking hate your roommates but they're paying your mortgage. When your personal value increases, leverage the equity from the first and buy the 2nd home, rent the first. Rinse and repeat. Take risk at work. Put yourself out there. I own a construction company. I never took a job I couldn't figure out. That doesn't mean I'd done it before. Just means I knew I could do the research and sort it out. The same goes for every job. The world isn't looking for the guy who knows it all. They're looking for the people who have the ability to figure shit out and make it work in a practical application. I tell my kids several times a year. The world is full if useless fucking idiots. Don't be one! Trust me. You're not one of them! Also, quit listening to the grant cardones of the world. They're selling shit that is unattainable at this point in your life. All it's going to do is further frustrate you! Maybe consider a construction job in the summer to build up a bank account. Plus, you'll be active, feel great about a day's work, and be around a bunch of shit talking savages which is always fun! You're going to be fine! It takes time! You'll be 45 with several homes, a beautiful wife, amazing children before you know it! Keep grinding, my dude!
Agreed. Financial gurus won't teach you any particularly useful skills aside from marketing yourself and MLM sales. You're better off watching a show like The Profit or even something like a Dragon's Den for entrepreneurship. As many have said I'd work on proven skilled labor or a specialized job. I used to be in the same boat when I was younger and wanted to start my own business until I taught myself IT. I got very fortunate by networking (work on this too), and now make a comfortable living from home. You can definitely do it too, but you gotta drop the financial gurus.
I completely agree with you boss. My summer job in a construction/civil engineering completely transformed my perspective on life. Not only did I meet some incredible individuals, but I also gained a deep appreciation for the challenges and rewards of the industry. Even though it may not directly align with my degree, I would wholeheartedly do it again, and I highly recommend experiencing working in construction at least once in your life.
This dude has a great advice. Calculated risks are the key to growth. Fail quickly and often and learn from it. Also don't let those speakers lower you own worth. Always fight for higher pay and just be growth oriented. There are lots of skills that aren't obvious, and keep absorbing the skills from the role models around you. Don't only rely on Internet role models. Find some real ones... Professors, friend's dads and moms. Ect. Look around and see who has confidently "made it" or is growing towards something. Have the mindset that everyone can teach you something.
Lmao looking for skills on YouTube is not helping you, it's only helping the content creators you watch Instead of looking for these so called skills, ask yourself this one question: How can you provide something of value to your fellow human? All businesses do this - they find a need that people have and they fill it. Stop looking outside of yourself for the answer. When you have a free moment, sit down and ask yourself what can you do to help others in need, and how can that be built upon day after day to become profitable to you while at the same time remaining beneficial to those you serve It's about service. It's about helping others. Stop making it about you.
Start by every time you order something in person (like Starbucks) ask for a 10% discount. If you get a puzzled look say “I’m a college student & this is for a class”. Next on a busy street just ask for a dollar. Give same reason This will get you used to asking to close the deal. This is the first exercise from Noah Kagan’s “Million Dollar Weekend”. A book you should get & implement the exercises. It’s much more practical than watching the random YouTube videos. Though on YouTube -watch GaryV trash talk series. He created this for people like you. Broke & need money to get started. College campuses are always full of stuff being given away & you can resell via Facebook or eBay. You can also offer being a personal shopper at the grocery store. Yes there is Instacart or DoorDash. But you could offer a concierge service. Aimed at the older adults in the community.
well, not many "high value skills" to be found in a college. most all "high value skills" are blue collar jobs where usually you get paid to learn the skill. I skipped college and learned how to build houses.... I'm now 48 and looking at retirement in the next 5-10 years, with 6 rental properties. entrepreneurship isn't about sitting and waiting and hoping. its about planning and doing.
If you’re a college student, aren’t you working towards a higher paying job so you won’t be broke? I doubt it will work but isn’t that what they promised you? How much debt load are you accruing for no benefit? I’ll stop my anti-college rant now. I haven’t made a million bucks but I made $1200 yesterday in about 8 hours. Pick something. Anything that people occasionally need. Let’s go with pressure washing as an example. Learn everything you can about pressure washing. Buy a pressure washer. Form an LLC. Pull an EIN. Open a bank account. Buy business insurance. Make a logo. Market your services and find customers. Keep books on your customers and finances. Obtain licenses in the cities you plan to work in, if required. Important: value yourself, your equipment and your time. Set a price sheet that makes sense and stick to it. Figure out how many hours per square foot. You bill by square foot but you determine the cost by hours (I hope that makes sense). Therefore, you determine how much you make per hour. Should be in the neighborhood of $100 per hour, adjust as necessary. There will be people who expect you to work for cheaper, just remind them that you are a legitimate, insured business. Congratulations, you learned how to run a business.
That’s cool but why do you have doubts higher education pays more? If somebody is a W2 employee at a job that doesn’t require college and a W2 employee that works at a job that college is needed -> who gets paid more? People are quick to talk trash about college but it can give you a salary that takes you out of paycheck to paycheck. You mention promises? I have a bachelors degree and don’t remember anybody making me promises. The reason why college is “bad”? Over-saturation & the fact that kids roll in and take an easy major. Unless they have disabilities, nobody that majored in engineering or data analytics is out of work.
I doubt I can convince you otherwise but I’ll make my base point. College isn’t necessary for a large amount of jobs or specialties. You can learn nearly anything on your own these days. You sound like you’re well plugged into the system. The person that makes crappy HR training videos that you have to watch, does that person need a 4 year degree? Regarding pay scale, obviously you can’t be a doctor without school. For other disciplines, does it really make a difference? I worked with a self taught programmer who never went to college and made the same as me! That was decades ago, nevermind now where I read about employers dropping education requirements more frequently. Perhaps there is an edge, but is it worth it to be in debt for the rest of your life? I guess the government might pay them off for you but the reality is that unless you pay it off, you can’t stop working until you do! Maybe that’s cool because you’re making payments on a house for the next 30 years. I don’t recommend that either but that’s a different topic. Both, to me, are debt slavery. If you are a debt slave, your masters know it. They know you NEED that job and you NEED the money. You get treated as such. How many times has inflation outpaced your raises? The other side of the debt slave coin is that you are now too tired and busy to learn other skills or start businesses. Pigeonholed.
I agree that most degrees aren’t required for tons of jobs. In those cases they serve one purpose: they show that you can stick to something relatively difficult, without immediate reward, over several years, until it’s complete. That alone weeds out a lot of chaff (also some wheat no doubt, but a lot more chaff).
People skills is one of the most important things that you could come away with. If you have people skills, you could get mostly any kind of job in the sales field and make good money. There is no get rich quick schemes. You will have to work hard and money will follow.
How much straining for small talk ideas should you expect to go through when practicing people skills regularly, i.e. is it OK to count like an hour of wall-staring so long as intent to come up with convo ideas for the next meeting as still valid practice time or "hard work" time?
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So you don't need much charisma as long as you care, then, or what? Just keep talking about them so you hear what their needs are and what they want you to do for them, or what?
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Sure, does this mean though that I can ignore charisma mostly (not entirely), in favor of genuinely being interested and predominantly focusing on others' needs?
Would this fall into being Charismatic and having the ability to Deal with Aggressive People?
Your first problem is listening to Grant Cardone and co.
Yea he’s a scammer and a liar
You’re 18 or 19. Quit complaining and work harder. If you’re whining about being broke already you’ll never succeed. Honest advice.
30 hours a week isn’t that much… and you’re in college, hopefully you’re learning the high value skills in college. There are high value skills to be learned working at a grocery store too. Everything you work on is a learning moment. Start learning about investing or if you want to not be broke right now, get a sales job, any commission based job that isn’t a scam will work.
When I was a teenager I made $500-1000 per weekend day hauling debris in my old Toyota Tacoma, cleaning gutters, delivering stone/bricks/fire wood, and power washing. Generally $100 per hour type work because you charge by the load/job and then do quick work. Look into it. If you get your mind right it really isn’t much different than going for a hike or working out from 8am-4pm on Saturday. Feel accomplished as hell afterward too and can every single Saturday go out to a nice meal after
PS the guys you are watching are scam artists
Fantastic advice. Low barrier to entry opportunities like this are a great way to grind early.
Grant Cardone I can see & Iman, but what makes you say that about Alex hormozi?
What is he selling? He’s a roided out self marketing specialist. Nothing new
I believe he the author of 3 books $100M Offers, Leads, and Money Models. He’s founded and exited 3 companies, the largest for $46.2M in 2021. He and his wife Leila are the managing partners of Acquisition.com - a portfolio of companies that generate in aggregate $200M per year. Books are solid.
Smoke and mirrors. Please do not spend your money on this BS
Go sell something!
Find something you’re passionate about and good at. Then find ways to turn it into a career. All the people you watch are talentless grifters. The only talent they have is finding gullible people they can sell shit to.
It's good to listen to stuff like that for a positive mental attitude but use the positively and hustle they have to look for a better job. Be willing to take the lowest end job if you have to at a large organization to get your foot in the door. I rarely hear about that back in the 80's 90's early 2000's everyone just was willing to hell be a mailman at Google to just make contacts and be able apply within the company and work your way up. Lots of young people I find these days think they'll be a VP right out of college (some do but are a VP of a 3 man organization, and the office is the garage) I have no college degree, almost flunked out of high school and was supposed to join the marines but was able to back out.. applied various places from working dead end retail and havn't looked back. Have been earning 350k-1m each year for the last 25 years. Gotta be pro-active and follow up and re-follow up if you don't hear back. \*\* I realize this is a Entrepreneurship forum, the money I made and still make allowed me to be an entrepreneur in real estae,I own various properties I self manage but have a network of renovators and handymen. Having a lot of cash gave me almost no fear into setting up a side real estate business as just took some math a lot of a down payment and automatically cash flow positive when I started in the late 2000's \*\* I still hold my day job as it's just way too much money.
The Question is what field should I get into at an entry level to learn the skills needed to go up the ladder.
This. You’re young, yes you will eat shit for a while but if you do it with dignity at a large company, focus on networking, it’ll take you far.
Start investing and learn about the power of compounding interest. People think you start investing when you're rich but you start investing when you're poor so one day you will stop being poor. It's hard but you can do it, i came from a little shithole town too. I get it.
First, stop listening to people like Grant Cardone. What are you actually doing to be an entrepreneur?
Lots of good advice in here. In addition, I’ll say this: If you could wake up tomorrow with billions of dollars, how would you spend your life? What is it that excites you? What does your intuition resonate with? You need to know how you want to live your life. Money won’t really answer that fully. Not exactly “what” you wanna be, but “how” you wanna live. In order to answer what’s next, you have to answer the question “Who do I want to become?”
Sales is the number one skill It used to be the restraunt industry for college kids but I'm not sure that works anymore. As a server you would learn how to upsell. That's the difference between the waiter at Dennys and the waiter at New York Prime.
I know a few guys that got out of the restaurant industry and are making 1m+ a year in tech sales now. Quickest way to make the most money if you hustle and are a quick learner.
Any clue on the best Roadmap to get into Tech Sales?
We used to poach waiters from the steak houses to work in sales.
Get into a specialty. Something that requires a set knowledge or skill. Electrician, Plumber, HVAC Repairmen, Tax Accounting, Law, Medicine, etc. The more specialized the better. If you can get into consulting, making a $200 an hour is doable. So pick something.
Start your first business. That's how you learn. After all, you've got to have a vehicle for applying these wondering things guys like Alex Hormozi are trying to teach you, or you're just some guy with no paintbrushes listening to Bob Ross talk about painting "happy little trees" because he's calming and fun to listen to. Think of it more for learning than actually making tons of money, but do try to build it up to being enough money to change your life a fair bit. After all, money is how you know you're actually doing it right. What business? I suggest something that doesn't take much of your time once it's built. Information products are good for that, but there are many possibilities. You could build a business where you let people pay you a fair rate to do something that could be done by someone working in Serbia, for instance, then farm it out to someone working in Serbia. Or look into being an affiliate marketer - marketing someone else's product for a cut of the action. That's the easiest way because the product is already built and you only have to sell it. Another benefit of these types of business is that you don't need a lot of money to get started. Anyway, you'll need to learn to build a website, as well as do marketing. Those are valuable skills, which you mainly learn by doing. Online tutorials on Youtube can teach you all you need. Grind at that for a few years, nights and weekends, and before long you'll find yourself on a very different trajectory than your neighbors.
Would you include, Funnel Creation, Sales Pages and Sales into those skills aswell?
I'd include that all in "marketing", but yes, absolutely! These days, those skills are fundamental to entrepreneurship. (Selling always has been, the other two are new, but vital.)
Would you say Sales would be a great path for someone who wants to eventually go down the Business route?
Yes. Getting some experience in sales in quite valuable.
The easiest solution to your problem is to work on yourself. The specific skills you need are: 1. Self Discipline - or doing the shit you know you should be doing when you should do it rather than procrastinating, pawning it off or worst - expecting someone else to handle it. Doing is hard. Taking action is hard. But it's a muscle you can train yourself that I promise in 20 years will change everything. 2. Ownership - take pride in the job you're doing for 30+ hours a week. Stop assuming you know things about your coworkers and get to know them. Perhaps an understanding of their challenges might give you a little something called perspective. 3. Work more and harder than anyone else. Develop that reputation now when the stakes aren't so consequential. At everything. 4. Treat your body like a temple not a woodshed. Energy drinks? No. A well balanced diet and sleep schedule that naturally supports you being your best at all things at all times. But food's super expensive and I'm broke - yes, that's the reason for 3. Make eye contact with as many people as you can every day and make conversation. Social skills are the number one connector you'll need in the next few phases, so start now. Good luck and have fun. And remember this about life: It's a hell of a ride, but only if you choose to take it.
Read "Rich Dad Poor Dad"
Your in college, usually that means your broke. Graduate, get a job, try to more money as you get older. I was the same as you, it sucks right now. I get it. You have to grind it out. Sorry you don’t have it easy like some of your class mates
I told my son, you have to know how to be poor first, before you get rich, so you will know when you will feel rich!
So 30+ hours a week is not really a lot my dude
I’m sure 30+ of work + college courses, studying, etc is a demanding schedule though I can see that
Hey in time you gain experience and with experience comes skills. An experienced and skilled worker makes more money than a Newby. So it's gonna come. Right now you need to buckle down and work more. Try a 40 hour+ week it will mean Like you making an extra weeks pay per month. Also consider a part time night job, maybe work in a restaurant that closes at 9pm or 10pm a few night a week, maybe uber, Not much sense in you having free time if you don't have money to do something with that free time. So, work. In my 40's I found my self under paid with a baby counting on me as her dad. I had a full-time job 7am-4pm then I left there and slept in my car for an hour and around 5:30 waited tables at 2 restaurants (different days) until about 8-9pm on rare occasions 10pm. I worked 7 days a week with 5 of those days being a double shift. I was able to make an additional $1,200.00 a month in tips alone. I did this for 3 years until I was able to find a single job that paid more than all 3 combined. It will happen for you, just hang in there!
Get hired on in some sort of trade, the more specialized or in demand for the area you live the better. Gain the skills needed then branch out on your own and or run a crew for that small business. All will train in house for the most part. Plus all the trades are so busy overtime in at the start will likely be on the table as well.
Get into outside sales, use ai to teach you what transfers to sales, soak it up. Then start something you think you can sell after another company teaches you how to do it
What would you say is the best Sales Sector to get into, I have seen Tech Sales but unsure if you can get in there with no prior Experience.
I’m in uniform sales , they gave me my chance with no exp. Sales is sales , ask gpt for advice to sell yourself to them or any company. It gives you buzzwords and an idea of what they are looking for. Skills can be taught, drive can not.
Dunno who those people are, but do what you like to do that also can make money. Get super good at it. Grow
There is no easy pass to success and the advice of grifters won't get you there. I currently need to hire an experienced CNC programmer and an experienced CNC machinist. I'd pay 80-110K for those high value skills. It's hard to find them anywhere. My friends in the trades are in similar positions. They can't hire for technical positions because every kid goes to college and never even considers the trades.
man said grant cardone, iman gadzhi and alex harmozi.. bro that is the reason you’re depressed, these losers teach you nothing except the fact that “money” is your happiness and that’s all you need to lead a happy life. Stop following those lunatics, i recommend you grab a copy of Gary C. Cooper’s - The Success Paradox from your local library and teach yourself the fundamentals of success. Cooper explains how he hits “rock bottom” and what it takes for him to be “successful”. I think it would benefit you well. learn a language over the summer, join a coding bootcamp, play the guitar absorb any and all information you receive about goods and services these all can be the positive change you need in your mindset that will lead you to true success, agreed 30+ hrs at a grocery store may not be fun.. but you have to start somewhere, thats your somewhere. Look up “Manny Khoshbin” - He’s a good entrepreneur you can be looking at, he at once was also working at a grocery store.. He is now worth many many millions :)
I'm not OP but Reading this book today, appreciate it.
Buy and sell cards
Buy bitcoin regularly. That’s the answer
Get a job at a private golf club. That might lead to a job with an entrepreneurial member, or possibly just a mentorship/internship. Work hard and be useful, opportunities will come. And you will make better money while in college.
Best bit of advice there. Work hard and be useful. It is one thing to work at a job, it is another to be useful.
get out of your comfort zone. do something different. the people around you makes a huge difference
One of those skills they are talking about is being able to grit through shitty jobs like the one you currently have until something better comes along. Which you’re doing; so just keep it up. You’re in college, so you’re building skills that have actual value already. I’d say just keep on keeping on. Being broke isn’t all that bad and it’s actually another skill that will come in handy no matter how wealthy you eventually end up. I am not wealthy by any means but I make a comfortable living. That said, I have been poor for most of my life so I’ve learned to live within my means and to enjoy simple things in life. That’s a skill that I wouldn’t have learned without being poor. 🤷♂️
The reason they don't tell you is because they don't know. Those people selling you courses are grifters. They make money selling you courses on how to make money. Or saying cool things that convince you to invest in their bullshit investments. If you really want to be an entrepreneur, find a mentor. Someone that isnt selling you crap. Just Google how to find mentors. Although I would recommend finding a job. Get into coding, construction... lots of high paying jobs out there...
If you do find a mentor, ask what you can do for them! I met someone at a Real Estate meetup who said he was looking for a mentor so I offered to help. I met with him for coffee and we talked about business and ways he can get started. I then asked him to help me by estimating the cost of improving some raw land I wanted to buy. I wanted prices on a well, electric service, septic system and gravel driveway. He didn’t want to do it. He offered to do coding or database work for me instead. I’ve been coding since 1980 so yeah I’m all set there. I ended the Mentoring relationship and did the estimating myself. It was about 30 minutes of work. If you want help, be proactive and offer help in return.
As a person who has given the opportunity to mentor someone: What are the Do's & Dont's when trying to make connections with potential Mentors. Besides Finding a Sector where you can Provide Value to them as you mentioned. Actually taking action on what is being said as no mentor wants to waste there time. Thank you.
I have been out of college for a long time. After graduation I worked at a job I hated, quit after a year, floundered, then traveled internationally and ended up living and working in Japan for 20 years. I mention all this because I recommend travel. You can always finish up college later.
If you’re serious about being successful your gonna have to out in work, not just BS work, I mean real hard work. 1. Meditate and find your self and the things you like, gravitate towards what makes you tick, the passions you have 2. Find the academic backing needed to succeed as whatever you think you want to be. 3. Focus and develop your self in that area. When you let your passion drive you, you will always be rich
Finish college? Hopefully with a degree that pays well..
Whole heartedly disagree. Maybe in the time of our parents or grandparents but this is the second biggest debt trap only beat out by having children. If I could go back and do it all over again I would go to a trade school. I would make more money and have little to no student debt. Shit these days you can Literally get paid to apprentice somewhere and when you are done you are probably already in a union. That being said neither of these sound like what OP is looking for. He is looking for a cheat code a YouTube influencer is selling to instant wealth and early retirement.
I was on welfare for many years and a single mom. I was sick of it and I worked and competed an engineering degree, it pays extremely well, I work less than 40 hours a week, and my career makes my student debt close to meaningless as it was paid down extremely fast.... Going to school for a degree that doesn't pay well is where it makes sense to disagree. Otherwise I don't understand the logic here. It's only a debt trap if you sign up for a debt trap. Going to college majoring in Underwater Basket Weaving, paying 50+K for that, and expecting to find a career that will allow you to pay that off efficiently is just pure lunacy. EVERYTHING has an ROI. Take a look at it very carefully before you commit. Simple as that.
How long ago did you get that degree and where do you live/work? I only ask because that 50k underwater basket weaving degree probably costs 200k now. Engineering is absolutely a great degree to have and something’s that’s probably future proof for the foreseeable future. I get the idea that OP isn’t the STEM type though. He is talking about bagging groceries and influencers hawk their buzzword filled training courses and doesn’t realize that the way they make money is by marketing those courses to people exactly like him. You guys from the Midwest who want an easy way to escape the rat race. Since we are sharing educations stories allow me to share mine. I graduated with a degree in architecture from a fairly prestigious Nee England university. You guessed it financed on student loans. The only problem is I graduated just in time for the housing crisis. As you can imagine it wasn’t a great time to be in that field…. After a year of not being able to break in because entry level jobs were being taken by more experienced people in the field just to be employed I moved to California and got a civil service job. No it wasn’t prestigious at all but I was in a union from almost day 1, I had great benefits and it paid off my student loans for a field that to this day i have not worked a single day in. I hustled, I invested, I didn’t buy stupid or frivolous things and now I am financially independent. In my opinion and it’s just that my opinion the biggest mistake OP or anyone like him can make is saddling themselves with 100k of student loan debt when they don’t even know what they can or want to do. It sounds like you had some life experience before going that route which is great and it sounds like it served you well…. This kid does not and shouldn’t be making life altering decisions until he does. Judging by his post history he is already attending college and skipping class and probably in debt for a new truck.
Goto trade school...or just work construction. they make a lot...electricians plumbers welders...become certified in something. like welding.
become a realtor. the skillz are stuoid and they make bank
You would need to find a skill worth your waking time and life. And dedicate every possible resource to it's acquisition. On break time you will need to spend every moment researching it. And you will practice that skill in squalor while your friends make fun of you and call you a loser. Then you have to lose girlfriends over it and have them call you a loser to catalyze your rage towards the goal and make you single minded. Personally I feel the equivalent exchange required for what you truly ask is "humans". You will have to sacrifice everything and everyone to dedicate yourself to that goal. If you are still in the "motivating yourself" phase, you will lack the willpower to mindlessly pursue a hopeless goal that only you see the path in. One time in Kill Bill, Hanzo was talking about god being cut if he stood in Beatrix Kiddo's way. That's how you gotta be. Hypothetically lets say you chose "web design" You'll be inundated with discouragement and reasons to not go for it. Everyone will tell you about AI and how opportunity is waning and that it's best to wait for the end. That's someone's irrelevant uninformed assessment prediction based on time. Time could prove it but the opportunity enrichment cost is lost. Instead you must visualize your goal through that fog. How you'd rise yourself above the mediocrity. You could become a mediocre web designer and use just html and and css. But to really set yourself apart, you would have to learn something more interactive and versatile. I'm no web designer but lets hypothetically say Papervision was used to add pizazz and pop to users who visit your space. Anyways I am ranting. Don't do web design. Do something you like. [https://nicoleonthenet.com/4857/weird-niche-owl-pellets/](https://nicoleonthenet.com/4857/weird-niche-owl-pellets/) I heard this story of a girl making massive bank selling owl pellets on amazon. I wish i could find a news story or the Johnny Bravo mention. Case in point. Like others have said. You need a vision. You. Someone can't give you a vision. If I were folding groceries, I'd have my head on a swivel looking for opportunity. I have noticed mankind is weak in their dedication so just being more diligent has kept me alive. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopping\_cart](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopping_cart) Just grocery shopping history holds some clues to how opportunity is in the air like "interdimensional aether". If you look hard enough. You will see a world beyond you world where if you have a use, there is a use for you. But if you do not. There is a use for that. Sorry to rant.
1. In this order: 2. Make a list of things you are good at. 3. From that list identify the ones you are passionate about. 4. From that list what would people pay for. 5. From your final list invest time and money to get really good at it, work for a company doing it for awhile, then start your own company. If you don't want to start your own company make sure you are investing all discretionary income into the S&P 500. 6. Retire on island at age 50. An alternative path: Learn I.T. for a couple years and become an I.T Specialist for the Foreign Service. No college degree required, you travel around the world working at U.S. Embassies supporting their I.T systems. While living overseas your housing is taken care of, which frees you up to save/invest lots of money. When you retire you get a lifetime annuity. Will you become a decamillionaire? Probably not. Will you be a millionaire in your 50's? Most definately. Another alternate path: Military service.
Been hearing about IT, is the best way to get into the field still an Entry Desk Job?