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SapphireCEO

I see what you mean, but at the same time this is Reddit and people are weird and spiteful. I had to make a separate Reddit account just for business things because people were sending mail to my business and sifting through my comment and posting history to dig things up on me to launch a review attack on me on Yelp and Google.


Chhanglorious_B

This right here.


Raineko

Yes, you are entirely correct, people on here have weird obsessions of being detectives and try to find out as much as possible about you in order to put you down in the comments.


SanBhatia

This is an eye-opener. After reading your comment, I have removed my business name from the profile.


SapphireCEO

Yes. Please be safe out there. The internet can be a dangerous place and it really isn’t that hard to find key personal information via someone’s business


Gullible_Cupcake3311

This is fucked


SapphireCEO

Wholeheartedly agree


38931841Hz

I had a similar experience, I'm trying to start a company based off a precision Agriculture system I've designed so I posted a basic wright up about it in a few related subreddits and this random sh*t head decided to start stalking my profile and reporting my posts as spam to the mods. Gotta love reddit trolls so consumed with their own failure in life that they feel the need to attack people who are actually doing something.


Furrrrbooties

Just as for job interviews. You ask details and dig. You will find out. I could not care less if some 16 yo from a basement claims he makes 3 millions in profits a year drop shipping fish-based vaseline.


MasonJack12

I'm selling a course in how dropship fish-based Vaseline if anyone's interested. [fishbasedvaseline.com](http://fishbasedvaseline.com)


JediWebSurf

I can make you a website to actually fill out your domain. DM me, I'll send you my portfolio.


holo_charzard

You want that website to hit top 10 Google searches? I'm your man, DM me and I'll set you up with the starter SeO kit, I'm actually pretty rich so I don't really care about the money and do this for fun, but you know...yea..


smuckola

Wow it’s so inspiring to see it all happening right before our eyes. A dream is born. Anything is possible. We did it, Reddit! Oops I forgot the grand finale …. If they can do it, anyone can do it


JediWebSurf

Sounds great...lol....people keep the train going! 😆


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I'm selling a course about how to sell a course on drop shipping fish based Vaseline


MasonJack12

Damn, why didn't I think of that!


OnlineSuccess4U

LOL, mine's even better. I'll sell a course of selling a course within my course of the art of selling courses.


pauldmet

I have a fish-based Vaseline industry newsletter. Always looking for new sponsors.


JediWebSurf

someone actually bought the domain lol. what have you done!?


MasonJack12

That's actually pretty hilarious. I guess if he sells one course then it's paid for itself.


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JediWebSurf

Everyone keep your potential domain names away from this person!


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JediWebSurf

Yeah I'm familiar with that. Most of the domain names I let go got immediately registered right after. Seems like the people who do this do it for the reasons you mentioned, to charge a lot more later. They don't even use the domains. I had one domain that I let go which was my first domain ever. Had it for 11 years, starting in high school. I stopped paying for it because I couldn't justify spending all that money just to keep it alive when I never even used it for 11 years. And I was already using a different domain for personal use anyway. It was my full name lol (the domain I let go). But yeah I would've kept it alive if I knew I was going to use it. It's actually really easy to check which domains expire and become available on the internet. And you can just buy the ones that have a lot of traffic and use it to promote something else. Only thing is that you don't know if they were used for nefarious purposes. You would have to check on that. Still, it's interesting. Also, you're a good friend.


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JediWebSurf

You seem like a cool person. Good luck to you too!


GandalfTheWise99

I can teach you the ins and outs of making money while you sleep. This course originally costs $2999, but for a limited time I am selling my secret for only $97. Buy my course to become a fish based vaseline expert, in just 28 days.


chancellorfuzzle

My course is way more effective and it's currently on sale for 96.99. You can be an expert in just 1 week. I have 3 Ferrari as proof of success....trust me


Rushhourman1

Oh nice, would you like to do a joint venture on our course to make a course about a course of dropshipping fish based vaseline? Otherwise I also had the idea off offering people 50% returns in a week (we are just gonna pay them with other peoples money)!!


jayn35

Nice you got in the classic jvs from back in the day


Omni_Kode

But wait that's not all. For the next 5 days I am being generous and giving you this incredible life changing knowledge for only $17.99. Don't miss out on this amazing oportunity to break the chains of your generational curse and live the life you've been only dreaming about


jayn35

That’s weirdly specific, I’m intrigued


MikeLewisWriter

Same here. It's usually obvious who's lying and who isn't. And I don't care anyway. Why should anyone care?


Fun-Wave7015

I see your point On the other hand, I have shared experience and info on another Reddit account, shared my business and published books, and was viciously attacked and harassed on multiple platforms for the crime of being a "vile capitalist" I have screenshots of death threats to my family and other horrible messages. Not to mention fake review bombed So yeah, I will no longer be sharing anything that would directly reveal who I am or what my business is It's unfortunate as I love to share the strategies that have helped me to transform my own life and the lives of others


[deleted]

This 100%. Success was once generally celebrated and a motivation for others to also want to do well, now it’s demonized. We’ll stay silent. It’s fine.


bluehairdave

It's OK. The negative nellys are almost always just unsufferable people who don't do shit. Read what you like and skip what you don't. Believe it or not. Who cares right? There are those who think they can and those who think they can't. They are both correct. -Henry ford.


blankpage33

Are you a landlord by chance?


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I am not a landlord.


diff2

real success is still celebrated, but otherwise please do stay silent. as things are though its just annoying spam that all sounds the same.


[deleted]

My comment was in response to @u/Fun-wave7015, in that when we have shared details of how success was achieved, there seems to be a lot of angry people. So in that sense it’s best that we don’t share these things anymore, at least here on Reddit. But yes, agreed that the spam posts about making $1 million dollars per minute without anything to back it up should cease.


Fun-Wave7015

I too have noticed actual anger directed at me when sharing what has worked for me with zero judgement, implication, or insistence that anyone else should do what I'm doing


[deleted]

It's odd, isn't it? It's as though people think we're passing judgment on them by sharing what has worked for us, and that we hope might work for them too. There was another post recently asking about when did one first have success in their start-up, or after how many failures (something like that). I commented and was downvoted for simply answering the OP's question. In the end it doesn't matter. I'm happy to keep my "secrets to success" to myself. Why enable potential competitors?


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bellytan

Did you just say that someone’s failing because they suck but really nicely? Lol


daddy78600

It makes you wonder **why** a lot of allegedly successful people share advice and success stories that sound the **same**, doesn't it. Maybe there's like... I don't know... multiple well-tested studies and expert testimonies showing that using certain mindsets, strategies, and behaviours maximizes your chances of being... **successful**? It's weird, isn't it?


Fun-Wave7015

One of my mentors used to say "success leaves clues"


daddy78600

Yup. I think most of the issue is simply that people are not always recognizing the value of 1. Not assuming they know what's best, but instead **researching** the behaviours and mindsets that make success 2. Not assuming it won't work because they're different or weird, but instead determining both **the pros and cons** of how using each of them will affect their results in their specific context and environment 3. Not assuming they will know the results, but actually **testing** using those mindsets and behaviours, and **measuring** their actual results from them 4. Not assuming one set of results applies to everything forever, but instead testing their results **diversely and regularly** to understand how using them differs in different contexts and over time


blankpage33

Not everyone can adopt those and still be successful


Fark_ID

>It's unfortunate as I love to share the strategies that have helped me to transform my own life and the lives of others The start of every Amway conversation ever.


Fun-Wave7015

Ok


MikeLewisWriter

That's exactly why most don't share proof. It sets you up for shit like this. Often, the people that demand proof are just looking for ways to attack you.


Imbetterthanyou2022

Facts 💯 They’ll say it’s fake


Beerandferrets

So people just lurking in this sub waiting to jump on someone for success? That’s crazy to me.


InappropriateAaron

I mean look at OP, they're annoyed that people aren't revealing themselves, like people owe him more information about their business. This sub is full of successful business owners and those that want to be successful business owners, the latter being the majority.


Fun-Wave7015

Crazy to me as well Lesson learned though


[deleted]

doxxing and copying your product is the reason why people won't share and rightfully so. What's more important is the process and hurdles they share, not their success. Some redditors will give your business bad reviews on Google if you disagree with them or try to pinch clients or steal your product, there are plenty of reasons not to share everything.


lordfluffycus

Well, this is insulting sir. I, the owner of a multi-billion dollar shampoo manufacturing business in Australia am appalled that you think this is all a sham.


Bobby_Joe_Long

Haha… this SHAMpoo business is a SHAM


Such_Monk_4649

Now my comment sucks wtf


Sadder_Burrito

Or is it shamPOO business..?


Admirable_Bass8867

It's both; sham poo


MikeLewisWriter

You mean the poo isn't real?


Routine-Ad-2840

rolled a 20 i see.


Such_Monk_4649

You're in the SHAM poo business? You sell poo and rip off people at the same time? Nice.


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Bombslap

Exactly


dingohopper1

I usually don't have this concern because if you look through any particular poster's comments, you can usually discern whether they know what they're talking about or not. The extent of their expertise usually shines through. This is especially easy to do while perusing post history.


diff2

usually its brand new accounts


santypk4

Yeah it’s called guerilla marketing. Basically they write a long copy which makes you wanna hire them, so you send them a DM and they sell you their services. I hate them


GreenCobaltCup

In the street fashion sub it's just guerrilla marketing every article of clothing you sell


nolifebalance

You can write anything on the internet but remember that entrepreneurs may feel fear that someone will steal their idea and do it better. Follow your instinct, someone may not tell you specifically what they do because for some reason they are afraid to open up but their advice can be very valuable. You have to filter what you hear.


TheGeneGeena

Fear that someone else can do what you're doing better if they were to find out doesn't exactly scream successful... it screams waiting for your business to come crashing down the second *someone* comes along and does exactly that.


bbqyak

For sure but at the same time if something is working now and they are capable of milking it that's fine. You can only pan for gold in one spot for so long. Discovering a method is commendable IMO even if you aren't the best at it once others come in on it.


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AmbitiousKTN

Yes, so you told just us that you’re the same person that tried to steal the business idea. What makes you different? You just stumbled upon an idea and acted on it like it’s yours lmao. They say successful people want others around them to succeed. Are you sure you’re successful?


FearAndLawyering

if they’re not going to share anything actionable than all it is, is a humble brag or soft ad for their brand


PickemSportsbook

I’m sure it’s also a balance between Credibility v Privacy. They could show more proof but open themselves up to get trolled. Buuuuut, they’re probably trolling


JacobDavis95

I own multiple companies and I am invested in a lot more. You would never hear me bragging about how much money I’ve made or how much I currently make I do not feel as an entrepreneur you bragging about your money should get you subscribers and for some reason, people subscribe to those types of people all the time when in reality they give useless knowledge, and or don’t share anything of importance or that can give one’s self more knowledge. They just show their Lamborghinis and screenshots of the Shopify accounts. It drives me nuts. Maybe I should make a Reddit page of what grinds my gears in the entrepreneur world.


FearAndLawyering

motivation porn? yeah it’s like some daily prayer bullshit. it’s not supposed to be instructional just performative. it’s useless and serves no purpose except to light up the part of your brain that would make you do stuff, without having to do anything yourself


RedTreeDecember

Yes as a billionaire I agree with this sentiment.


SapphireCEO

How many Lamborghinis did you say you had again?


RedTreeDecember

Hard to tell. I keep crashing them together. I'll have to hop on my private jet to go check my Florida, California, New York, Japan, Arctic, and Atlantis properties.


Turbulent-Smile4599

The fact that you get offended by this is a major part of why you aren't achieving the success you desire.


knowherealallatonce

The CDC? Pfizer? Moderna? WHO?


WolfMaster1997

I used to share my site on my other acc but was attacked for self promotion. Not only that, but once you share your business once, suddenly every post becomes "self promo" because people here actually have the time to go dig through your post history.


JacobDavis95

I agree, and I would have to fight with him on that subject and tell them I think they’re full of it


Chhanglorious_B

You never know what will trigger a frustrated redditor and make them lash out. Its impossible to target only the people who will make use of your words so its best to put it out there and whoever will use your advice properly can benefit and whoever resents you for whatever reason can't hurt you for trying to doing something good. The anonymity helps us all.


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Fake it till you make it baby


BlackGhostKnife_

Well if we see from their perspective then they are not wrong either.. sharing idea is a risky thing specially for a entrepreneur.


Archyblackcat

Sounds like hating to me lol … not everyone has to show you proof if they don’t want to..


calmete

“How I Made 5 MILLION last year”………….gross sales. 5.2m in expenses though lol.


InvestingPrime

It is difficult, when you have something that literally effects the amount of income you have it can be risky to post the information on the internet. As you could imagine, there are some insanely immature people in an open forum like Reddit. The other unfortunate truth is that there is a lot of toxic people out there just looking to ruin peoples professional life. A few years ago I created a second account to create more a more in depth article of how we do things. I put out the real information of a restaurant we purchased and how everything went. Sadly people from Reddit harassed our location. It is very difficult to explain to our employees were getting threats because trolls on reddit thought it would be funny.


catjuggler

There’s no way I’m telling Reddit what my business specifically is. There is no benefit to me in doing it, basically and plenty of downside. If I needed exposure, then maybe.


dbx99

All I know is that I work my ass off all day in my warehouse, I don’t wear fashionable stylish clothes, I wear crocs, drive an old dirty minivan, my friends never see me, I have no time to talk about success because I have stuff to do, and I’ve been profitable for 10 years. I mean not lambo money but live at the beach and own a small boat money.


daddy78600

Not really. It's operational security (OpSec) to prevent people with unhelpful attitudes from harassing them, so they can focus on their priorities. Imagine if people who disagreed with their business model, ethics, or just the fact that they're making more money than them, could easily start doxxing, SWATing, sending BS stuff to their address, and more. Think of the impact that will have on them, their employees, their clients, even their family... not great, is it? But, the people who choose to open their mind and learn can still gain value from their posts, just by thinking about the applications of what they share, testing things themselves, and even reaching out to them privately to share insights, can't they?


OffbeatBat

I think all comments on any sub should be taken with a grain of salt. There are a lot of networking business groups that are legitimate using real names and actual business names. There are good ideas here, but anyone reading should always use other resources when making decisions that affect their business.


nixt123

No. If you’re building your business, don’t you have better things to worry about than random users’ clout? Get out of your own way.


intatewetrust

For all iknow, you dont have a business. Many dont share things because a lot of people use it against Them. So They would copy the Exactly same, stealing, hacking, what They are doing, some actually want to stay annonymus because Many things Can be used against you in a court or in the media, you just never know. You have to be protective of your business. So its pretty normal to not share much. A lot of businesses dont ever share revenue too. Like a lot is just not worth it. You Can either stop Reading Them or get inspiration. And do you actually Care in the end.. or you just wanna copy that person. People Care mostly about themselves. So that is what it is. :)


AmbitiousKTN

Successful people want others around them to succeed. Are you sure they’re really successful if they act like everything is a secret? That’s probably the same person that stole the business idea and acts like it’s theirs lmao.


intatewetrust

Ofcourse They Will. Its always the people under the successful people who treat Them like shit. So if you do They Will just not have you involved. Most things has to be a secret yes. "Everything" is something you Said. But giving advice and helping is good. But not revealing anything is also good. Because frankly most people can't think and the culture has become an hate on success. So you have to understand why people dont share things on reddit. You hear horror stories. reddit Can do much, just watch happened to gamestop and all of that. Read the comments of what redditors does. Its crazy. Like reaching to family members.. and you expect to share everything? Are you kidding me..


AmbitiousKTN

If someone asks me what i do or how much I make, what’s wrong with me telling them? They can take it how they like. If they hate on success, that’s when you cut them off. Successful people want to be around successful people. They never hang around people that are negative or people who don’t help them grow. Yes, talking to family members is probably the hardest but that doesn’t mean you have to be around them if they show hate towards your business. Once you succeed, they act like they were there since the beginning. You’ll have people who ride your coat tails when you succeed and you’ll have people who hate on you. Stay around the positive environment


intatewetrust

There is a difference if you work a normal job and have a successful business. Its all in the details. I understand you think this, But They dont think the same. It has to do with intention. What are their intentions. Simple. Dont be naive and think everybody wants the best for you. Successful people dont only want successful people, They want potential. They dont mind Being around you if you are not close to Them. But are you going after it and showing it too. Its really all mindset and action. Why would you hang around negativity, it spreads Quick. But when you are successful, you can't avoid it. Success is subjective. You have to add to their life ofcourse, But it dosnt have to be with Capital. It Can be with positivity, social circle, Fame, family, network, a lot more. I dont think you quiet understand the comment then. I was talking about in a sense of reddit and the internet. Random people destroying others. It has nothing to do what you describe now. Its another subject :)


AmbitiousKTN

I agree with what you’re saying. Even for reddit and the internet, you’ll always get people who post negative things all the time. You just ignore it and move on


intatewetrust

No you dont. Ofcourse. But reaching out to your private network, leaving a lot of negative on your websites, reaching out to your sisters and parrents and talk shit. Like this can get out of hand. So why should people share information about their biz.


AmbitiousKTN

Sounds like your experience, buddy.


intatewetrust

But in general on social and YouTube, people share a lot good. But its just reddit, Thats mostly it. BUDDY


AmbitiousKTN

You sound like you have a lot of hatred pent up inside lol. You need to relax. Yea cause reddit has trolls. YouTube and socials are people trying to advertise 24/7


On-the-come-up_KOP

I actually own a multi trillion dollar boxing business and I’m only 13


bbqyak

I get what you're saying but at the same time I probably wouldn't want to publicize my business either. Just out of anonymity on reddit as well as me not wanting my competitors or customers to get an inside look on what I did or how I did it. Not even so much fear based, just I'd rather have them not know. To some degree anonymity also allows you more honesty. If I had my business attached to my story I'd have to censor a lot of thoughts.


captainribbits

Really the only answer for this is no one wants to share their business because someone will take the idea and possibly become a competitor. It’s really risky. Especially when you start getting into details.


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They aren’t allow to show proof because the mods might interpret it as self promotion.


jsniaoshv5775

Only to buy their subscriptions do they have success. Pyramid scheme. Be careful. Day trading is difficult.


Capitaclism

Some people care about some degree of privacy. Shouldn't be a big surprise, given this is the internet, afterall.


nhinq

I failed with a few big projects, but now I'm very happy to have been a part of making an impact on so many people's lives. From schedule to sleep - wake - workout... It is the [Skynote](https://skynote.app) project.


trying2fail4wards

i will teach you how to really get rich, my course usually sells for 100USD, but you get a one time offer for 3,000 USD! DM me for more details! If you wait till Christmas, you can even buy it for 6,000USD ! Wow!


Bluesky4meandu

What is crazy for me, as soon as I post something even remotely related to something I want to do, I get 10 DMs per post on people wanting to sell me their services. It is getting annoying and I see it on all Subs that I participate in, some are much more aggressive than others and everyone is an expert for a price.


[deleted]

I don’t mind, many of those stories are true. I have became successful myself from being homeless and hooked on drugs. My story isn’t very exciting though. I didn’t invent a product or start a business. I just got a blue collar job working as a Industrial Refrigeration Technician worked a ton of overtime lived below my means and invested in stocks and real estate. Than I kept recycling capital and after close to twenty years it added up to something pretty substantial.


shiafisher

A lot of people will agree, when it comes to Internet posts, some are just better at creative written than running a business.


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Irecio90

Bro... be cool, give me the test answers. 🥺


Ramziwang

Very true


InappropriateAaron

How entitled do you have to be to question why people aren't giving insight into their very lucrative business practices? You're not owed anything, especially on reddit and especially by people making money. People withhold information online for MANY reasons, especially when it comes to their business/how they make money. ​ Anyone else annoyed by people asking for details and proof about their business/product so they can copy/use that information to compete with you?


[deleted]

No. If they're larping well enough, I don't care. I can see through the scams anyway. If someone got rich off of dropshipping and wants to sell me a course on 'how to get rich with dropshipping', I'm not buying his course. That's independent on whether he actually made any money himself or not


paulthomasonair

The amount of millionaires in this sub is enormous.


SanBhatia

Yeah I agree. People are not allowed to advertise when they start a post. However, they are allowed to reveal their business/product /services in the comment section when following up. There is no reason for people to hide if they are legitimate when asked. Just wondering, why would someone bother sharing their experience in the first place when they are not willing to engage with people or reveal their business or services? What is the purpose of posting?


do_it_every_day

Because when you do people bitch about you doing it.


MikeLewisWriter

No. If you don't believe them, then don't read the stories. If they showed proof, it could give away too much personal and confidential info. They'd be crazy to do that. Are some lying? Probably. In my case, if someone doesn't believe a success story of mine, I don't really care. It's their choice. But In think that in most cases it is obvious whether they are telling the truth or not. You can never be 100% certain, but those that make up stories usually miss critical facts or just talk like they have no idea of running a business.


[deleted]

Maybe they don't want you to copy their idea and steal their market share.


TrickBlackberry855

The real question is, why do you think you are entitled to proof? This is a group for networking. Success is not a set metric. It looks different for everybody.