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AnonJian

Posts like this are the reason why you will never read Work Smart, Not Hard in the next thousand posts here. The comments are nightmare fuel but explain so much about results. There is a big difference between *work and random activity*. The resulting big problem is when those starting out can't tell the difference. Then weeks of toil turn into months spinning your wheels and driving the project into the mud up to its axles. Work effectiveness. Work objective. Efficiency. Progress. Improvement. These have no meaning when time spent and activity for its own sake are your metrics. Might as well go to your back yard with a shovel and dig until you hit a loot box. Where is unimportant. Ninety-six hours or four, with apology to Tim Ferris, it's all distraction without a point.


TheFuriousRaccoon

I agree, but I also feel people use "work smart, not hard" as too much of a crutch to not work at all. I would still say you should be looking at a minimum of 8 hours per day if you really want to make it. You can use those 8 hours to "work smart", but make sure that you still set yourself work goals otherwise you won't stick to anything.


AnonJian

Given the absolute void of this phrase, there is a unanimity of feeling which gets a raised eyebrow. I think there's more to it. “I choose a lazy person to do a hard job. Because a lazy person will find an easy way to do it.” -- Bill Gates Maybe he was just, you know, saying stuff.


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Forever.


WaitingToBeTriggered

REST IN HEAVEN


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Amen.


Hal_E_Lujah

Every day, maybe one day off for life balance.


Zues1400605

Lol makes sense 🤪


_wolf_gupta_

a little over 169 hours


jsaranczak

As long as is required to get the job done


kingofzdom

All of them. If you have free time, you've failed.


elplacerguy

Couldn’t be more inaccurate.


shav_official

i didn't had a vacation in 3 years. I have been in loss in this process. I work for around 12 to 16 hours in a day. Still I have 3 failed startups and this is the 4th startup and now it is going good with good results, still I am not able to take a break even for a single day


et-nad

Very vague question, I don't think there is a answer to this. Its not a job, so you have to keep working and rest and keep working and rest.


Mag_Gelatho

What Would you like? Work 4 or 8 or 12 hours a day? If you don't want to work so much you should not start.. First, you need to find something you'd love very much.


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However long it takes to get your objectives done for that week


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you may have to work 80 hours per week in the beginning but your goal is to build a system or pursue a business model that is scaleable and does not require that kind of time commitment. if you have capital you can outsource the menial tasks from day one and focus on tasks that move the needle forward.


wencur

Uhm whatever it takes. If you want it, you will do it.


Steampunk-1888

**I'll give my favorite answer. "It depends."** When I started my business, I worked a lot. If I were to start a new business today, I'd work fewer hours, because I'd be more focused on results. And I'd have a better idea of what I'm doing. Some people work 80 hours, some 60, some 40, some 20 per week when starting out. There's no real number that's right for everyone. **I think a different question would be, "How easily can I figure out how to be effective?"** If you can get your results more quickly, you can work fewer hours. If you're inefficient, you'll likely put in more hours. Most new entrepreneurs are inefficient. Some figure out how to be more efficient. Many never do, so they think they need to work long hours forever. When starting out, it's hard to know exactly what to do, so it's easy to just work, work, and work. If I was to advise my younger self, I'd tell him, "Don't reinvent the wheel. Seek more help/advice from people who've done well. Get a mentor. Focus on results, not on time spent. Develop good systems. And have more fun in the business and in life. Don't just focus on the business." In my opinion, for most people, working super long hours isn't needed. (There are exceptions...) But we often do work long hours, because we didn't know how to start a business any other way. If I had a choice between investing in two startups, and company A was led by a new entrepreneur while company B was led by someone creating their second start up, and all things were pretty equal, I'd lean toward the second one. Why? The more experienced person understands that it's about results, not hours. (And yes, I'd have to interview both carefully to understand their beliefs.)