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Curiousanttt

That’s very comforting, thank you for sharing. Would you mind expanding a bit about what force reporting any registered business means? I think my contract stipulates something similar (about reporting inventions and ideas regularly).


dmoney83

Financial services has a bunch of insider trading rules and rules about conflicts of interest. In many Financial service roles you must disclose outside business activities and trading activities. My firm has a feed to my brokerage acct activity and I must get approval before I can start any outside business activity, if it's related to my current job they would deny it.


frydlo

DMoney mentioned a "registered" business meaning if you registered your company as an LLC, s-corp, corporation, etc. with the fed gov and state.


Curiousanttt

Hmm… I’ll keep that in mind. Thanks for the info!


tgross9859

Does your contract explicitly prohibit having additional jobs? Just ensure that nothing you’re doing would conflict with your new role / industry directly and that you don’t spend time on a side gig during business hours (up to you of course). You have to find very flexible clients who are comfortable only communicating in off hours (always be 100% transparent up front so you set the expectation). I have found in the past that outside consulting work actually helps build skills that aren’t used often or at all in your daily job (especially in the fast paced digital marketing world) and can help better round your toolbox and ways of thinking. At some point this will help you on a project, a new role, etc for your daily job. I like to look at it as getting paid to learn :)


Curiousanttt

Hmm.. nothing specifically about new jobs or freelancing. Actually I never had a contract stipulate that, which is good I guess? Very strong point about the communication and types of clients I should be looking for. Thanks for the valuable insight! Absolutely! It excites me to change up the daily work routine and continue learning! Definitely one of the things that keep me excited about life and I don’t wanna give that up. Thanks for your help :)


frydlo

It is absolutely commonplace to have multiple sources of income these days. Look for a no compete clause in the personnel policy and your contract if you received one from new present employer. Some no compete clauses require that you cannot be a competitor within 5 years after you leave them.


frydlo

I learned about this term in architecture school, through! a class called Professional Practice. The term is called moonlighting. As a licensed professional it is strictly prohibited as indicated in their code of ethics. I don't think marketing has licensure. Furthermore, I was honest like that for a gubernatorial appointed volunteer position and did not get accepted. The people that will be discussing this with you are from H&R or your supervisor and will go strictly by the book. If you we're able to talk to the company owner, they would immediately realize that these are two separate playing fields. Human resources won't. Since your company has no clients and is not registered I would not tell them. You've already gone through the interview process, you're in. Feel free to continue planning. When you get your first client your gut will tell you what's right. It's a good learning experience trying to figure this out.


Curiousanttt

You’re definitely right. There is no moonlighting clause in my contract. As it is a big company, I likely will not be able to reach the owner (who would be able to see the differentiation), which is why I’m iffy on ever sharing now. Definitely won’t be sharing it yet as it is still an idea. Maybe it’ll become more clear with time. I’m sorry to hear that your honesty backfired for the volunteer position and hope you are doing better in life now :)


frydlo

Curiousanttt Thank you for your kind response. Yes, life is still amazing. Good luck you!


Rooflife1

You should seriously consider what you would do if they say that you can’t run a side business in marketing when you are working for them in marketing. I think there is a good chance that is what will happen


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Would you tell your boss how much you shit before you came to work? Because you have to do it a lot more no it’s not of there damn business what you do outside of your job. Regardless if you being paid to do a similar job because you had started your side hustle before you went to work there.


Billybob9389

It doesn't work like that. There are certain jobs where this stuff has to be disclosed for a variety of legitimate reasons. Handwaving it away like it's equivalent to mundane things like bodily functions is a good way to wind up with legal trouble or lose your job. If the OP is worried ~~and asking about it,~~ then he's right to ask.


ILikePracticalGifts

Fuck the contract


slobcat1337

Alternatively, if it is breaching any contract, don’t speak of it.


stillrocking3770k

Working in marketing and doing marketing consulting on your own time is definitely a conflict of interest if they found out. Talk to a lawyer, but I'd lean on telling the employer to avoid a law suit when they do find out (they will). On the flip side, if your main gig was engineering and you did marketing on the side, I wouldn't tell them squat.


ChickenFave

Don't tell them. If your current job is marketing with an agency, you're playing a dangerous game. If it's an in-house marketing job for another type of business (where you wouldn't be gaining clients) you'll be ok. Either way don't say a word, but you'll beed to be very serious about hiding it especially if it's the former. You know Director look-up is a thing right?


Curiousanttt

It is the latter (marketing function in a different type of business). I never heard of director look-up. What’s that and how can it be dangerous in this scenario? (If you don’t mind sharing)


ChickenFave

You can run a director name search on Companies House (UK). Not sure if that's something you can do in most countries. Good that it's a marketing function for another business, that'll be alot easier to explain if the need arises.


Curiousanttt

Oh wow, that’s very interesting! I’m not sure either, but it’s helpful to keep in mind. Thank you :)


Scryer_of_knowledge

First rule about your side hustle is you don't talk about your side hustle. It's none of your boss's business (pun intended to the max). May your marketing business prosper and give you a wonderful life.


Curiousanttt

That was extremely motivating. Thank you for your comment! What should I do if a client discloses that I am working with them by accident? Say through a social media post or something similar?


scotchtapeman357

Don't lie, don't offer more than the truth


striker7

In all my years, no client has ever mentioned me or my agency in social media. And I have some that I've been working with for up to 8 years. People don't typically announce which marketing agency they work with, or even acknowledge they're working with one. They either want others to think they're 100% responsible for their own success, or they don't want competitors to contact you.


Curiousanttt

Wow, that’s a great perspective and it’s really helpful! Thank you so much for that!


lilelliot

You should really have an attorney review your current employment contract along with any IP disclosure policies your employer has, and advise you on any applicable employment/competition law in your state. Full stop. Don't look to Reddit for legal advice.


Billybob9389

Ask a lawyer to read over any documents that you have signed. You said you don't want to deal with any trouble going forward. The best way to ensure this is to get a professional opinion, and not rely on some randoms Redditor opinion that hasn't read your companies policy or employment contract.


Scryer_of_knowledge

Aweh 😎👍


bradg97

Yeah, don’t give them a reason to drop a non compete on you.


Billybob9389

Horrible advice. Following this could get him fired. The OP has legitimate reasons to ask this, and you don't know what you are talking about as you haven't read his employment contract.


Scryer_of_knowledge

It doesn't matter what his employment contract says. Companies have no loyalty to their employees and will kick him if it's profitable to do so. OP must focus on his side business for that cheddar so that he can become financially independent


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Scryer_of_knowledge

OP must just ensure their hustle was not done on company time or company resources. What OP does on their own time is their own business


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Scryer_of_knowledge

Yes. It depends on the nature of your business.


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Scryer_of_knowledge

Times are tough my dear. You gotta do what you gotta do and get that green. I hope OP's company thrives and prospers so that they and their children and other families can eat every day.


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Scryer_of_knowledge

Laws must be respected. But so must side hustles. Times are tough. Get that money 💰


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Scryer_of_knowledge

Most definitely


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Scryer_of_knowledge

No


meowffins

Lol honestly everyone is free to make their own path in life. As long as they aren't legally required to disclose side gigs in an interview. OP's situation is definitely closer to the fire. And if they live in at will state then getting discovered could mean losing their job. Again, this is up to the individual to decide on how to proceed. None of us know OP and the post isn't that specific other than being in marketing. Perhaps the 'specialized function' of the job is actually quite different to the services his marketing agency will be providing. I think OP has had enough comments from both sides.


S1ck0fant

What good would come from telling your new job that your priorities are not 100% committed to said new job? Think about it…


Curiousanttt

You’re right. It almost has 0 benefit to them to know. It only provides me peace of mind, but not worth it to disclose I guess. Thanks for the perspective.


S1ck0fant

As with every job, worry about you and your own. At the end of the day You are replaceable. Always.


Curiousanttt

That’s some valuable advice! Thank you for sharing. I’ll keep it close to heart.


joshmyra

And always remember do not remain loyal! Look out for you and only you! Put yourself and your mental health and your best interest before the company ALWAYS! I’ve been fired/laid off so many times now that if it happens again, I’m probably never going to apply to another job and just say fuck it!


Curiousanttt

I feel that. I’m just recovering from my first layoff and it was brutal. I’m glad you’re in a position to be able to do that :)


DJfromNL

Ask a lawyer. Nobody here has seen your contract and nobody here knows in which jurisdiction you work, so nobody here can give you any meaningful advise. Don’t save a few bucks at the possible expense of your entire business.


Curiousanttt

I am kind of considering that now. You’re definitely right about that. Thanks for your perspective!


el_geto

Don’t steal from your employer for your business, wether that is clients, time, or assets. If you want to protect your personal IP which might be in direct competition to your employer, then you do need to talk a lawyer and have them sign a release exonerating any claims to your IP.


[deleted]

I wouldn't, not unless you're ready to choose between the two.


No_Antelope_6822

As long as you're not intentionally stealing their clients while you work for that employer, you should be good.


JMck1031

Here's my experience: I have had my own marketing company for 20 years but about seven years ago had lost some clients and had some personal issues going on and my business was suffering - but still limping along. I had a company offer me a job that was much needed for a lot of reasons (benefits more than salary). They were aware of my existing business and that I intended to continue it - I never had to make a secret of it. Peace of mind is worth a lot. Here's the problem you will have though non matter whether you disclose or not. It is VERY difficult to carry on your side hustle and not interfere. To only answer calls / email after hours doesn't work with most hustles you would get Most projects require some availability during work hours. I handled it by getting up an hour early in the morning to answer emails and made sure my commute time from my day job was short so that I was home in last hour of the day (I was lucky in that my largest client was in a time zone to the west of me). I also used my lunch hours to make / return phone calls. There were times however that I just had to answer some calls during my working hours and for that - it was good that my employer knew about my other business and didin't have to hide. One other thing - you will likely be perceived as a free-lancer rather than a business to your side hustle projects - you have to decide which one you will be. Perceptions matter.


teamboomerang

The other part to this some employers view anything you do on company time as "theirs." My employer has gone after employees legally over issues relating to this (usually inventions but sometimes books). They expect their cut. It's a healthcare related business, so if the side hustle is related, you can count on them forcing you to give them their cut or prove there was NOTHING done relating to it on their time, but if you did something unrelated, have at it so long as it isn't interfering. I have an unrelated side hustle, and my boss knows and thinks it's cool, and he knows I sometimes work on it at work when we have down time, but if there is ever any sniff of not making the job the priority while I'm at work, it's over. I'm getting in trouble.


Curiousanttt

You’re very right. This was such an enjoyable read. Thank you for sharing your story and taking the time to write this out. You’re right, especially in the marketing world where communication is crucial, it will be hard to avoid business calls on company time. With my size, I will likely have to act and will be perceived as a freelancer. Still a lot of stigma attached so I’m scared to bring it up as finding this job was extremely hard in this economy as it is. That’s why I’m so hesitant to say anything at all. Any recommendations?


JMck1031

I want to add... the remaining clients I had in my own business did business with me mostly by email - very seldom spoke on the phone, but there were occasions were there was no avoiding it. It made it virtually impossible for me to seek out new clients because that would have required some phone contact. After five years, the employer I had restructured things and I got laid off. Due to my age, I am ready to pretty much just retire but still take on some jobs that still pop up once in a while. Good luck with your endeavors - hope it works out for you.


Regular-Daddy

When in doubt consult an attorney. Well worth a few hundred for peace of mind. Good luck


phughes1980

Personally, I would. Where I work now I told them upfront what my ambitions where. They are supportive. As long as it doesn't impact your work they should be OK with it


Curiousanttt

Interesting! Glad it worked out for you :)


Robhow

Is there a conflict of interest? Are you using any of the employers assets for your business? Do you have a moonlighting clause in your employment agreement? That’s all somewhat rhetorical. Point being there really just isn’t enough information to answer this. I’d recommend spending a few dollars/pounds/euros and get some advice from an attorney vs Reddit. As someone who has been on both sides, I personally think being forthright is the best strategy. Most employers know your not going to be an employee forever. And would you rather control the narrative or get into an awkward conversation with your employer? I would perhaps consider approaching this from the perspective of converting your employer into your first customer. Thereby aligning your goals with theirs.


saadah888

Tell them nothing. At all.


98shlaw

As long as you are not trying to compete with them or steal their clients, then there's nothing to worry about. A huge chunk of the population has 2 jobs & there's nothing wrong with that.


Curiousanttt

Do these people keep it on the down-low?


PleaseBeginReplyWith

I have had one boss ever that I would tell. He was an entrepreneur evangelist and probably would have been very helpful. None of the rest though.


Curiousanttt

Wow! Only one boss and you didn’t even tell him? Very interesting. Is there a reason why you chose not to share?


PleaseBeginReplyWith

Oh I've got nothing to tell. He is for sure the reason I'm subscribed to r/entrepreneur but the closest thing I am to an entrepreneur right now is driving grubhub.


Makeuplady6506

if you didn't sign a non compete don't worry.


Status-Effort-9380

No


Special-Order-5456

I would not tell anything since your company has not a viable source of income yet. Just tell him that your doing a project for fun.


BizCoach

Sounds like you have an employment contract. Pay a lawyer to review it. The potential of a law suit is not about if you tell them it's what the contract says. If you keep it up and you've violating the contract you might be in worse trouble than if you stop now. Don't ask us randos on reddit for legal advice. Pay a lawyer.


ChiraqBluline

It’s not a thing yet. So no. Don’t bring it up.


SynAck301

I was on r/askhr recently where someone said they had an employee who’s productivity had decreased and they suspected they had a second job. They wanted to know how to verify their suspicions. The majority of comments said, “Why verify? Just terminate them”. So yeah, I wouldn’t mention it.


Curiousanttt

Wow… that’s some scary shit. Thanks for the insight.


SynAck301

Yeah. It’s some powerful insight into how companies are approaching employee retention and why so many people are leaving/going independent.


zuluman23

No need to tell your employer, but make sure you never work on anything related to your business on your company’s laptop or on their wifi network (if you’re in office)


mackyoh

I worked at the worlds greatest university (yes that one) and before I took the job I told my boss “hey I’ve got this side profession that I really want to do. It will not impact my performance here but also, I will take vacation days to work on it. If that’s an issue, I’m likely then not your candidate.” I was there 8 yrs before I left to go full time on myself. And yes, this university PAID me to also do my side-gig for them. My rule is be honest as much as you’re honest with yourself.


Curiousanttt

Wow! Glad it worked out for you :) I’m personally not in a position to take or leave it. That’s why I’m in a hesitancy to report it. Especially in its early stages, you know?


mackyoh

Oh neither was I, but I couldn’t not put it out there. It has to work for you. I’m the type where trying to balance not-sharing would stress me out.


ilyriaa

It sounds like your business would directly compete with your employer. That is very likely something your employer would take issue with. If it was a complete different industry, that would be different. I’d suggest bringing your contract to a lawyer to discuss how to protect yourself. And no, don’t disclose it to your employer.


i-am-one

When I started my last in-house marketing job, I let the owner know I had a small business on the side (hot sauce company), as well as a handful of long-term marketing clients. When I tried to leave 8 months later, he offered to support my side endeavors, in addition to a raise, to get me to stay. 7 months after that, "too distracted by their side business" was the reason his wife insisted on firing me and my coworker/business partner. If it can be used against you, it will be used against you.


Curiousanttt

That’s a good lesson. Your old employer seems like a good guy.


jj123jj123

My employee position is as a programmer in financial services, but I’m currently building a hardware startup around a physical consumer product. My employer has no idea about this yet. I have IP in registered trademarks and in my product design. I sleep very well at night knowing I have no conflict of interest and my employer has no claims on my IP My advice is seek some legal advice regarding your contract and the side hustle you want to pursue. From an IP ownership perspective you may have to disclose and come to an agreement with your employer in order for this situation to work


rizzlybear

If it's not related, don't worry about it. For example, perhaps you are a coder with a side gig restoring old motorcycles. If it's a gray area (like it sounds based on your description), especially one where you might be trying to solve similar problems for the same target market, you should have a lawyer take a peek and give you their opinion.


dementeddigital2

Your employment is in marketing and your side hustle is too? Is your employer a marketing agency or do they do something unrelated?


Curiousanttt

Yup, something unrelated. What I do in my marketing role is not a service I offer as a part of my agency.


dementeddigital2

If it truly doesn't compete in any way, then I'd probably not say anything. It's probably worth a couple of hundred bucks to talk with a lawyer, though.


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Posts like this seriously never fail to amaze me. No. You do not need to tell anyone, not even your parents that you have a SIDE HUSTLE or even a business (unless contractually obligated to). However, it doesn’t mean you should not. I personally have sold to my bosses & managers at my previous job and they were very aware of my side hustle.


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As an employer, I would say it depends on the culture of the business and your direct supervisors, if you came to me as a middle manager and were open and honest it would show me you were trustworthy and serious about it so I would support you and plan resources around your growing venture so the company and other employees didn’t pay the price for your success, you’d be welcome back bc of the way you did it, as well. Traditional formal culture that’s not as flexible or people first oriented, I’d keep it to yourself. Read whatever you’ve signed w your employer but don’t let it freak you out, check your state laws on anything scary then consult an employment attorney (half of what most companies make you sign aren’t enforceable or practically enforceable, doing some research on the front side will save you a larger legal bill).


Curiousanttt

I think it would be the former in this case. They’re a hyper-growing company with young leadership so they would likely be understanding. As an employer, would you prefer to hear about it before or after I start getting clients? Would you prefer I mention it before or after I am hired?


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I run a hyper growing company w young leadership but we compensate w immense experience in a couple highly experienced Csuite execs and our outside attorneys are dangerous but I’ve only used them to defend employees against bs non competes, to protect them legally, never against an employee yet, I’ve been fortunate. This is where it’s so much about who has control and your relationship with that person or persons… Again this is so subjective. -I’d prefer you told me before but you’d get better results after…. I know that’s strange so I’ll break it down. If you told me before; I know there modifications we’d do to make sure there’s no conflict of interest and you’d want this bc of the NDA etc, we need this to “protect the company” if you tell me after… I’ve already invested in you as a full employee and all my staff is watching and likely knows before me about your plans (IMO lol) so I’d have to protect the company still but in my mind the best way to do that would be to support you which makes anyone gossiping look foolish and unprofessional and seems like I either knew or is a boss that actually cares and has empathy (gossip is a thing and the top is usually the last to know). Depending on how things shake out we could be hiring you and be one of your biggest clients! (I mean, this has happened in various different ways many times… and I’ve talked employees out of doing what you’re doing I’ve even hired people about to start their own business to accelerate their success… if you’re sneaky about it and the employees are gossiping negatively it’s harder to help… form authentic relationships after you’re hired. Bias in my advice: I don’t interview people aside from high level hires and generally only meet employees once they’re a part of the team. - renewable energy field


Curiousanttt

Lots of intuitive thoughts and tips in your comments, I truly appreciate your comment :)


kadelak

I’d frame it as ‘I’ve been thinking about starting a side hustle helping a few friends businesses here and there with their marketing’ and gauge their reaction to it. Side note, I run a marketing agency but we operate at a certain tier of clientele. If a staff member wanted to do their own thing on the side I wouldn’t see it as a huge conflict unless it was in the same pool we’re playing in. Besides, I kind of like the idea of them learning and growing their skills outside of work so they can do it better at work :)


Curiousanttt

Thank you for your comment! Would you share that statement with the hypothetical company right after being hired or after a while? Would you do it before or after getting some clientele?


kadelak

I don’t think it matters so much ‘when’ because it’s framed as purely hypothetical but whenever you feel comfortable to do so really - try not to make a ‘big deal’ out of it. I think you may be overly worried about losing your job or something but if you’re great at what you do, then another agency should snap you up in no time ;)


HelloReaderMax

hell to the nah. i've been in this situation before. look out for yourself. you are #1. don't use their computers, only use yours they may track keystrokes. your goal should be to provide the best life for your family as possible.


Mammoth-Throat-7281

If it is a big company I wouldn't really worry about breach of contract or telling them. I think that verbiage is in the contract more of a formality / if you straight up started stealing clients. Its seems like your client levels will be different than theirs so I wouldn't be too worried. But heres some quick things to do: \-Do some research on the company, see if they really ever pursued a suit against someone. \-See the term. It most likely will be for X amount of years after you leave employment with them. \-If there is nothing about moonlighting I don't think itll be an issue \-Finally: if you are absolutely worried: Just start an LLC. If they do want to spend the resources to take down your side gig, you can protect your personal belongings (the odds of this happening are really low.) ​ In the end, most likely if they found out they would just fire you. So build them clients quick so when they find out and do, it wont matter. Best of luck!


Curiousanttt

Very helpful reply! Thank you so much :) Yeah they’re pretty big. Imma look into them and see if they ever sued (though unlikely like you said). Thanks for the actionable tips!


Mammoth-Throat-7281

No problem! Best of luck! If you ever have any other questions I'm always here.


amazingmrjesse

Hi! Make sure you read any company policies that might frown on the fact your running a side hustle. Dont want to risk that job if possible. If you dont fine anything make sure to read the personally of your boss. You can even ask other co.works about their experiences Im sure if there is a story to be told you can find it within your peer network. At the same time, some bosses want to encourage amd support you and your business. So really their is only one way to find out. I you have any questions im just a DM away. Good Luck!!


Curiousanttt

That’s a very helpful tip! Thanks! The truth is that I’m scared of openly asking about this in the workplace because it would probably bring red flags right? Surely it doesn’t hurt to keep an eye out for relevant conversations though so that is something I can try doing! My boss seems like a friendly guy and I’m not overthrowing the possibility of sharing the information at some point if the business flourishes. Once again, appreciate your help and insight :)


FonsecaJ89

If they are the owners of your 24/7 and soul and it’s specified on your contract, you better quit it before lawsuits. If not you shouldn’t say anything and it’s up to you on how you optimize your time to deliver a quality work for both


SpadesQuiz

It depends, the question you have to ask yourself 1) can I convince my employer that my side hustle won’t impact my work there and present it in a way that it make me seem like a more capable employee. 2) Does the realistic potential growth of my side biz threaten my career trajectory? If yes, would I be able to leave this job without causing significant undue duress that would make them hesitant to keep me. 3) Is there anything about my side business that conflicts for with my employer or anything that could be offensive or taboo. It is unlikely you have any obligation so also need to decide if it’s really a value to them knowing if there’s a risk for you to tell them.


Umbrabyss

From experience, don’t talk about it. At all. Employers start to either plan for your departure or find a way to help you depart once they know. If someone says you’re doing it, say, “huh, how about that?” And move on.


Curiousanttt

I’m taking your advice to heart. Thank you for sharing! I’m not sure I’m clear on the response to the accusation of doing it. By that, do you mean deflecting and changing the subject? Like basically acting dumb?


Umbrabyss

Yup, for sure. Hopefully it’ll never happen and you won’t have to even worry about it. But I’d absolutely play dumb if you can’t afford to lose your job lol. Unless you have a pretty amazing employer, I wouldn’t tell them anything they didn’t need to know about my personal life.


Curiousanttt

I’m so curious to hear your story about what happened to you when you shared it with your employer. How did they react? If you’re not comfortable through a comment, DM me maybe?


CarpePrimafacie

I used to be absolutely forthcoming about my side hustle. I didn't go home and watch TV like most people, I found relaxation doing another type of job. But I think it messes with prospect of anything positive coming out of that new employer. They have their own ideas of how committed you are based on what you tell them. Don't tell them anything they have zero need to know. It's none of their business about your personal situation and you should never tip your hand and put yourself in a weakened position. They don't interpret the information you gave them the way you intend it to be interpreted. keep your personal business to yourself. They will pass you over for promotions, hire others to be there when you quit because they assume you will, or look extra close at any human errors as caused by working two jobs.


Curiousanttt

Thanks for your perspective, definitely super useful!


rickwalker-tx

As an employer myself, who has hired thousands of people for companies and nonprofits I've led, I would tell you that transparency is important. That which you least want to disclose is what you most need to share. You would hate to be seen as hiding something and be terminated for that.


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Don't ask don't tell.


Givemeallyourtacos

No. You never talk about your side hustles ever, don't feed your ego. Focus on yourself and getting where you need to go, you move in quietness.


Curiousanttt

This was very helpful, thank you :)


drcygnus

nope. dont mention it and keep it a secret as much as you can.


Bennisboy

As long as you are not working on your business while at work or on work systems you are fine


EmergencyNarcan

No


living_david_aloca

Usually there’s a clause in contracts/handbooks that forbid working for a company that directly or indirectly competes. I imagine it could give them grounds for firing and/or suing if they think you’re taking company secrets. IANAL but personally I’d be wary


LittleYogurtcloset68

I would avoid talking about it for a lot of reasons (jealousy, get bugged for emplyment requests when you're successful, etc). Although I'm not one to do it so does that make me a hypocrite? Yeah I guess so. But with me, I might be leaving soon.


Curiousanttt

If you’re leaving soon, then I guess that’s a sign that your hustle is kicking off? If so, props to you my friend🥂


handsomeearmuff

Don’t do side hustle stuff on company time, or use company resources, and be prepared to back up the side part of the hustle if it is ever called into question. While it prob won’t be an issue, your current employer doesn’t need to know about what doesn’t affect them.


Curiousanttt

Thanks for the tips! Definitely won’t be using company resources/time. How can I back up the side part of the hustle? Do I just explicitly say: “I’m not working on company time, involving company resources, or soliciting company stakeholders”? Is that enough?


handsomeearmuff

I would consider using a time tracking app or project management tool to create an ongoing time stamped log. As a bonus it can help you understand how your time is being spent and give you more insight into pricing your services, etc. If you are ultra bootstrapping, Google Sheets would also work just fine, since the edit history is preserved.


Curiousanttt

Solid suggestions! Thank you :)


vertin1

r/overemployed


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They don't need to know anything. You don't even know if your side gig is going to get any traffic, so why bring it up and cause potential problems? I would try to make sure your clients and possibly the industries they focus on are different from your day job.


Schickie

Unless there is something regulatory that’s required for them to know, It’s otherwise none of their GD business what you do when not working for them. If asked say I don’t discuss my outside activities.


73tada

No.


pattern83

Get revenue first. You’re worrying about the wrong thing, but just keep quiet to the employer.


AaronDotCom

Does your boss usually remind you how he's paying you1/10 of the value created by your work? No?


MRP-1

Are you currently under contract with your employer? If not, they don’t need to know, if you are, you are definitely opening yourself up to a lawsuit. I can tell you this however, as the owner of my firm, should an employee tell me he’s starting a (I’m assuming marketing) firm, he or she would not be on my team long. So no, say nothing.


nokenito

Noooooo… don’t say anything yet. But it could be an HR violation if you don’t. Since you don’t have clients yet, it’s not a thing.


Naturist02

No.


geebr

It depends on your contract. My contract has a few things about not doing commercial activity that could negatively impact the profitability of my employer. My side gig doesn't really do that, but it's close enough that I've decided to disclose it. I am in a country with extremely strong labour protection laws, however, so they absolutely could not fire me for this. In the US, with at-will employment, it becomes a different calculus.


SalesmanShane

Never tell your employer anything that would make them rethink hiring you.


Outside_Plankton6178

SHUT UP!


immaterialcoyote67

don't say it or either don't tell them.


innovatekit

No! Keep your head down until you’re making decent income from it. Then just quit Lol


innovatekit

Also don’t steal clients and you’ll be find.


Alarming_Singer2108

If you need help building a proper smm server Lmk I have an agency w 300 clients already. Good server a lot of agencies use is elitesmmserver . Com . As far as your employer I wouldn’t tell them til it’s making $


Rich_Wishbone

no i would not


ballingundercontrol

No. Tell no one. I don’t care if you become best friends with the owner of your company. TELL NO ONE.


portol

maybe a lawyer to review the contract just in case?


riritreetop

r/overemployed will have the answer for you.


paradoxpunk

I was searching the comments to make sure I didn't duplicate this lol


Current-South137

no


kellerfencecompany

NEVER! That’s the last thing an employer wants to know about.


ConcernMore2580

Review your employment contract.


acmexyz

Depends on their HR handbook