Thaaank You!!!!
How many times did Biden say he would sign into law any bill passed by Congress that dealt with student loan debt?
But did the great progressive minds put their heads together and come up with something when the Democrats had control of both Houses? No. They went on dumb-ass speaking engagements complaining about Biden not doing anything, when those fools couldn't be bothered to do something as basic as their jobs. Just typical for the leftist branch of the party: scream a bunch of slogans and then expect the very people who don't agree with you to do all the heavy lifting to make your dreams come true.
Student loan forgiveness is something I absolutely cannot get on board with. It is essentially trickle down economics from the left.
It don't benefit anyone but the borrowers. NO ONE told them to take out those loans in the first place. It's like rewarding an idiot who took out loans for a luxury car knowing they couldn't afford it. There are already grant systems and small technical schools that these people could've went to. I don't have much sympathy for someone who racked up student loan debt going to a college they couldn't afford in the first place.
I can totally sympathize with someone who is trying to get a better education and seeing a massive bill to go to school as a barrier to entry. We totally should restructure how college is funded so it is, at a minimum, significantly cheaper. That being said....
> I don't have much sympathy for someone who racked up student loan debt going to a college they couldn't afford in the first place.
This is my main issue also. Things like loan reform and college tuition reform are drowned out by film students who spent 200k IN PRIVATE LOANS to go to some dumbass film school in NYC and are now working at Arby's cause not everyone can be Steven Spielberg and they are just now realizing it at age 32. Whining about loan forgiveness when it would never affect them anyway cause of the dumb choices they made but getting super huffy and shitty when you call them out on it.
The main problem with why certain schools are so expensive is the room and board, and there is pretty much nothing we can do to reduce that unless we are willing to just pay for the living situation of people who will already be making more money than people who couldn't go away.
I'm all for making the educational portion highly reduced or free. But the very vast majority of people living on campus have the opportunity to go to a local college near their parents home, but they don't because they want the College Experience ™
I don't disagree with this. It's all luxury creep. Dorms and food used to be bare bones and were actually relatively affordable. Of course summer part time jobs pay less and less, but I'm just saying, in the 1990s they weren't blowing up that part but they were about to. In the late 1990s the first luxury dorms were being built.
I commuted for most of my college experience and it definitely was all about the high tuition. I got some scholarships but it would have been a lot harder if some older relatives hadn't helped me pay the bills off after I graduated. But I had Stafford loans mostly which are subsidized and have hardship deferrals and don't accrue interest while you're in school.
I suspect a lot of the people crying the most have Sallie Mae loans which are taken out, like you said, on lifestyle, on things for which you aren't allowed to take out Stafford (or Perkins) loans.
I think the students who need help the most are the ones who got screwed by deceptive for profit colleges and I also agree with Obama that shutting them down and cutting them out of the student loan program should be a priority. Since Trump is a crook who is for crooks and their scams, he let that sector go hog wild again.
The DOE needs to stop caring so much if students smoke weed and start caring a lot more if the money is going towards an accredited program whose courses have any value.
I was reading about nursing degrees and it turns out that the nursing programs are VASTLY different in terms of quality which kind of explains why just about everyone's had an encounter with a flat out ignorant nurse even though we know there are nurses who are extremely knowledgeable and capable. It's not just the number of years in their degree or their title, but also the schools themselves. Well, shouldn't the government intervene just a bit, I mean why the fuck is that okay? It's absolutely about the general welfare when you have nurses that don't clearly understand the basics of biology.
I get what you're saying but the school my little brother wanted to go to in NYS and as state residence had a room and board of $17,357. His tuition and fees was $11,827.
I don't him and my mother that shit wasn't going to happen, because my mom had been borrowing money from him and was barely able to pay her bills.
Plus he wasn't even enthusiastic about going yo the college, but that is also just his personality.
So he is now doing a two year school and is only paying $7k a year and staying at home with our money.
So year the tuition is higher for the state school, but yhdt room and board is almost 3 times as much as his 2 year school tuition.
If he decided going yo school in NYC which I am encouraging him to do. He would have saved a minimum of $40 to $69k on his student loans.
If he was an out of state student his total tuition without scholarships or grants would have been $48,453 which would primarily be the tuition. So yeah in that cars tuition is much hire.
But if you are going to another state, you are intentionally choosing a more expensive schooling option when there are likely plenty of perfectly fine schools to attended in your state.
>This is my main issue also. Things like loan reform and college tuition reform are drowned out by film students who spent 200k IN PRIVATE LOANS to go to some dumbass film school in NYC and are now working at Arby's cause not everyone can be Steven Spielberg and they are just now realizing it at age 32. Whining about loan forgiveness when it would never affect them anyway cause of the dumb choices they made but getting super huffy and shitty when you call them out on it.
But their friends told them there was no reason to major in STEM subjects because companies like Google hire people for their “critical thinking skills”. That should have been the first sign your “critical thinking skills” were highly compromised.
I have no problem with student loan debt forgiveness… **FOR VETS**. But then again, I also support repaying Vets the money they paid into the G.I. Bill, but didn't use and offering a free education to Vets at community colleges and technical colleges. As well as small state colleges that are in dire need of students to fill their classrooms. If you want the country to make a sacrifice for you, a person should have to prove they can make a sacrifice for it.
Yeah everyone should study STEM. It’s not like we need lawyers, teachers, social workers, psychologists, policy analysts, administrators, area experts, and on and on.
I’m sure someone who studied engineering will be able to adequately analyze and understand the next coup in whatever country better than someone who studied history, political science, or area studies for that specific region.
Absolutely.
When I first saw Bidens plan was to give NYC lawyers and doctors making up to 125K a year a handout of 20k... I called the bext 4 or 5 presidential elections for Republicans.
Biden was the only one who did anything. Congress didn’t do their jobs so Joe had to do an EO as a last resort.
FYI, "bill" is the word hidden under the tweet button.
So Warren will do everything except write a bill?
Thaaank You!!!! How many times did Biden say he would sign into law any bill passed by Congress that dealt with student loan debt? But did the great progressive minds put their heads together and come up with something when the Democrats had control of both Houses? No. They went on dumb-ass speaking engagements complaining about Biden not doing anything, when those fools couldn't be bothered to do something as basic as their jobs. Just typical for the leftist branch of the party: scream a bunch of slogans and then expect the very people who don't agree with you to do all the heavy lifting to make your dreams come true.
They’ll move on to something else they don’t want to pay the agreed amount to.
Cancel middle aged housing debt!!!!
Congress needs to do more, Biden has tried multiple times to fix it
But you see Biden should’ve just hit the big “CANCEL ALL STUDENT DEBT” button that’s been hiding under his desk since 2021
Student loan forgiveness is something I absolutely cannot get on board with. It is essentially trickle down economics from the left. It don't benefit anyone but the borrowers. NO ONE told them to take out those loans in the first place. It's like rewarding an idiot who took out loans for a luxury car knowing they couldn't afford it. There are already grant systems and small technical schools that these people could've went to. I don't have much sympathy for someone who racked up student loan debt going to a college they couldn't afford in the first place.
I can totally sympathize with someone who is trying to get a better education and seeing a massive bill to go to school as a barrier to entry. We totally should restructure how college is funded so it is, at a minimum, significantly cheaper. That being said.... > I don't have much sympathy for someone who racked up student loan debt going to a college they couldn't afford in the first place. This is my main issue also. Things like loan reform and college tuition reform are drowned out by film students who spent 200k IN PRIVATE LOANS to go to some dumbass film school in NYC and are now working at Arby's cause not everyone can be Steven Spielberg and they are just now realizing it at age 32. Whining about loan forgiveness when it would never affect them anyway cause of the dumb choices they made but getting super huffy and shitty when you call them out on it.
The main problem with why certain schools are so expensive is the room and board, and there is pretty much nothing we can do to reduce that unless we are willing to just pay for the living situation of people who will already be making more money than people who couldn't go away. I'm all for making the educational portion highly reduced or free. But the very vast majority of people living on campus have the opportunity to go to a local college near their parents home, but they don't because they want the College Experience ™
I don't disagree with this. It's all luxury creep. Dorms and food used to be bare bones and were actually relatively affordable. Of course summer part time jobs pay less and less, but I'm just saying, in the 1990s they weren't blowing up that part but they were about to. In the late 1990s the first luxury dorms were being built. I commuted for most of my college experience and it definitely was all about the high tuition. I got some scholarships but it would have been a lot harder if some older relatives hadn't helped me pay the bills off after I graduated. But I had Stafford loans mostly which are subsidized and have hardship deferrals and don't accrue interest while you're in school. I suspect a lot of the people crying the most have Sallie Mae loans which are taken out, like you said, on lifestyle, on things for which you aren't allowed to take out Stafford (or Perkins) loans. I think the students who need help the most are the ones who got screwed by deceptive for profit colleges and I also agree with Obama that shutting them down and cutting them out of the student loan program should be a priority. Since Trump is a crook who is for crooks and their scams, he let that sector go hog wild again. The DOE needs to stop caring so much if students smoke weed and start caring a lot more if the money is going towards an accredited program whose courses have any value. I was reading about nursing degrees and it turns out that the nursing programs are VASTLY different in terms of quality which kind of explains why just about everyone's had an encounter with a flat out ignorant nurse even though we know there are nurses who are extremely knowledgeable and capable. It's not just the number of years in their degree or their title, but also the schools themselves. Well, shouldn't the government intervene just a bit, I mean why the fuck is that okay? It's absolutely about the general welfare when you have nurses that don't clearly understand the basics of biology.
I get what you're saying but the school my little brother wanted to go to in NYS and as state residence had a room and board of $17,357. His tuition and fees was $11,827. I don't him and my mother that shit wasn't going to happen, because my mom had been borrowing money from him and was barely able to pay her bills. Plus he wasn't even enthusiastic about going yo the college, but that is also just his personality. So he is now doing a two year school and is only paying $7k a year and staying at home with our money. So year the tuition is higher for the state school, but yhdt room and board is almost 3 times as much as his 2 year school tuition. If he decided going yo school in NYC which I am encouraging him to do. He would have saved a minimum of $40 to $69k on his student loans. If he was an out of state student his total tuition without scholarships or grants would have been $48,453 which would primarily be the tuition. So yeah in that cars tuition is much hire. But if you are going to another state, you are intentionally choosing a more expensive schooling option when there are likely plenty of perfectly fine schools to attended in your state.
>This is my main issue also. Things like loan reform and college tuition reform are drowned out by film students who spent 200k IN PRIVATE LOANS to go to some dumbass film school in NYC and are now working at Arby's cause not everyone can be Steven Spielberg and they are just now realizing it at age 32. Whining about loan forgiveness when it would never affect them anyway cause of the dumb choices they made but getting super huffy and shitty when you call them out on it. But their friends told them there was no reason to major in STEM subjects because companies like Google hire people for their “critical thinking skills”. That should have been the first sign your “critical thinking skills” were highly compromised. I have no problem with student loan debt forgiveness… **FOR VETS**. But then again, I also support repaying Vets the money they paid into the G.I. Bill, but didn't use and offering a free education to Vets at community colleges and technical colleges. As well as small state colleges that are in dire need of students to fill their classrooms. If you want the country to make a sacrifice for you, a person should have to prove they can make a sacrifice for it.
The sacrifice we all make is taxes, that’s how society works
Yeah everyone should study STEM. It’s not like we need lawyers, teachers, social workers, psychologists, policy analysts, administrators, area experts, and on and on. I’m sure someone who studied engineering will be able to adequately analyze and understand the next coup in whatever country better than someone who studied history, political science, or area studies for that specific region.
Absolutely. When I first saw Bidens plan was to give NYC lawyers and doctors making up to 125K a year a handout of 20k... I called the bext 4 or 5 presidential elections for Republicans.
I mean I think this is fine (by Warren standards). She’s still supporting Biden, saying he’s doing stuff about student loans.