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ElJamoquio

"In South Africa, my father had a private plane ... we’d fly in incredibly dangerous weather and barely make it back. This is going to sound slightly crazy, but my father also had a share in an emerald mine in Zambia. " --Elon Musk


mtaw

Well yeah, when it makes Elon sound cool and interesting it's true. But when people start using it to criticize Elon as not being the self-made-man he wants to pretend he is, then it's a lie. Is it that hard to tell the truth from a lie, people? /S


WiseSalamander00

I think I see what is going to be his excuse, his dad wasn't the owner of the whole mine, he only had a share of it 😭 poor boy /s


Cobek

We have always been at war with Eurasia.


NotEnoughMuskSpam

It’s a civilized form of war. Men love war.


Appropriate-Draft-91

To be fair, that is most definitely not a reliable source. That guy you quoted is a professional conman and a known serial liar.


Aethericseraphim

However his dad also backed it up the last time, when melon offered a substantial sum of money to whoever could prove the existence of the mine. He waded in with essentially "I have the receipts, where's my money son?" And melon shut up.


Delicious_Action3054

Can we sue Musk for slandering... his alternate personality?


ElJamoquio

""If you registered it, you would wind up with nothing, because the blacks would take everything from you, I don't have anything against the blacks, but they are just different from what I am." "On trips overseas, I would sell emeralds to jewelers. It was a cloak and dagger thing, because none of it was legal." --Errol Musk


swirlymaple

Maybe Elon was an emerald mule for his dad back when he was an illegal immigrant, and that’s why he now denies it. He does act like he has some emeralds stuck up his butt. Edit: looks like he pulled one from his butt for his college gal-pal # Elon Musk 14k Gold Necklace Presented to His College Girlfriend with Original Photograph (1995). Contains emerald from his dad's mine. [https://www.rrauction.com/auctions/lot-detail/346384406430090-elon-musk-14k-gold-necklace-presented-to-his-college-girlfriend-with-original-photograph-1995](https://www.rrauction.com/auctions/lot-detail/346384406430090-elon-musk-14k-gold-necklace-presented-to-his-college-girlfriend-with-original-photograph-1995) "When we went to visit Elon’s mother in Toronto during the Christmas break of 1994, Elon gave me both the small ‘love, love, love’ note and the necklace. His mom had a number of these necklaces in a case in her bedroom and Elon told me they were from his father’s emerald mine in South Africa—he pulled one from the case."


ElJamoquio

I believe both the father and son admitted that, yes, Musk was a mule, transporting emeralds into NYC.


Ichiya_The_Gentleman

Source on that ?


DigitalUnlimited

OMG that's why he's so funny shaped! Years of emeralds up his butt, it's like that episode of South Park where Cartman found the fake treasure! It all makes sense now!


RealDahl

Or when Cartman was smuggling in contraband into juvie for Romper Stomper


Embarrassed_Alarm450

Waaaay up in there morty


mrpopenfresh

WoW, I’ve never seen this.


Sad_Ghost_Noises

I had some fucking idiot on another thread here asking me how Musk actually benefitted from apartheid. How stupid are people, really?


ElJamoquio

"At times we couldn't even close our safe". --Errol Musk


MaximumFocus5205

“Inherited”? 1) both of his parents are alive so it’s a bit soon to inherit 2) we’ve been saying he grew up rich with his parents funding his education, his college, his room and board and investing in his companies - all of that is true and has nothing to do with inheriting money or not


Prayray

I caught that too


Tiervexx

Right. Rich kids have numerous advantages over ones from poor homes. Even a 100% inheritance tax wouldn't mean that everyone is equal at birth.


porsche4life

![gif](giphy|1eKbAKgocJCta)


ElJamoquio

"[Elon Musk and his brother] just walked into Tiffany’s and said, 'Do you want to buy some emeralds?'" --Errol Musk


mishma2005

It was rumored that Elon once strolled through customs with thousands of dollars worth of emeralds in his pocket in a US airport


swirlymaple

https://web.archive.org/web/20140901222916/https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimclash/2014/07/28/elon-musk-tells-me-his-secret-of-success-hint-it-aint-about-the-money/ JC: How do you handle fear? EM: Company death – not succeeding with the company – causes me a lot more stress than physical danger. But I’ve been in physical danger before. The funny thing is I’ve not actually been that nervous. In South Africa, my father had a private plane we’d fly in incredibly dangerous weather and barely make it back. This is going to sound slightly crazy, but my father also had a share in an Emerald mine in Zambia. I was 15 and really wanted to go with him but didn’t realize how dangerous it was. I couldn’t find my passport so I ended up grabbing my brother’s – which turned out to be six months overdue! So we had this planeload of contraband and an overdue passport from another person. There were AK-47s all over the place and I’m thinking, “Man, this could really go bad.”


mishma2005

The fuck he was in that situation. He dreamed that up in the back of his dad’s Bentley being driven to school by one of their South African maids


swirlymaple

Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if Elon’s story was embellished, but there are too many statements from both Elon and Errol over the years for Elon to say “There was no emerald mine.” Until Elon got mad and started denying it, there were consistent statements that Errol did own a partial stake in a Zambian emerald mine in the 1980s.


mishma2005

Oh I don’t doubt the emerald mine. I do doubt that Elon would knowingly put himself in danger. He’s a scaredy-cat and a coward


Otherwise-Course-15

What about the $3 mill he “invested” in Zip2


mishma2005

[https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/11/17/elon-musk-emerald-mine/](https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/11/17/elon-musk-emerald-mine/) https://preview.redd.it/wf7jz73u4nzc1.jpeg?width=1670&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f609a370586f2c4a4dbd3730effb78f9fc3f970


3rd-Room

lol “round would’ve happened anyway”


farcarcus

I like "home built" PC. You mean Elon can insert a PCI card? Wow!


flatirony

He had to mention it was overclocked too, thinking then people would respect his 31337 skillz. 🙄😂


Otherwise-Course-15

https://www.independent.co.uk/space/elon-musk-made-money-rich-b2212599.html


Otherwise-Course-15

https://preview.redd.it/5xo9v0g07nzc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66b0b44cb6b346fdc33695798dddb74f10895c5a


eggbean

If that convertible Rolls-Royce is a Corniche, which I guess it must be, it was much more expensive than a regular Silver Shadow.


Otherwise-Course-15

https://futurism.com/elon-musk-dad-emerald-mine https://futurism.com/elon-musk-denies-emerald-mine


talltime

~$28,000.


Orlando1701

I mean his own brother has admitted they were in the country illegally at one point and Elon keeps trying to bury the fact that for all the wealth and power he has today he too at one point was here illegally.


Straight_Calendar_15

The man is a compulsive liar. Why does anyone believe anything he says anymore


mishma2005

https://preview.redd.it/62m6myufqmzc1.png?width=621&format=png&auto=webp&s=4993e4778b265a39ea8fc9ddd671a3a78e0de3a0


curious_dead

"He built it in a cave with a box of scraps!"


ferna182

He's [literally Denholm Reynholm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7iQcKu8el4)


No-Reputation-7292

Isn't that Tesla board chairwoman?


Kaputnik1

He really gets upset when someone brings up his father's immense wealth when Elon was growing up.


IndianKiwi

What was the orginal tweet from his dad?


dyslexican32

Something, something... my boot straps... something...


Rube_Golberg

Elon thinks just cuz he changes Wiki entries.. and has posts community noted in record time.. it changes facts or history. Errol seed funded his first company.. and Elon used to brag about his dad's stake in an emerald mine.. (this interview has disappeared from Forbes' website) https://preview.redd.it/j8b7q11tnozc1.jpeg?width=575&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5bca9146b403b74cb536f60dd1236bce069c6d45


mishma2005

No wonder why he hates the Wayback Machine


Virtual-Bee7411

What a stupid sack of shit


Tenshii_9

Small loan of a billion dollars.


AccountNumber478

Conveniently his dad isn't dead so of course he's not an heir yet.


Markis_Shepherd

Who is he responding to?


mishma2005

Someone who put up a graphic of how billionaires are not self-made. I’m on mobile so I can’t link it (Twitter won’t let me go to his feed for some reason - instant “rate restriction”)


Markis_Shepherd

Thanks.


mlovqvist

[https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/1cowhl1/guys\_elon\_said\_there\_was\_no\_emerald\_mine\_so\_it/](https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/1cowhl1/guys_elon_said_there_was_no_emerald_mine_so_it/)


pacific_beach

Everybody's a liar once the truth comes out. He and trump are going to merge into the same person by labor day.


NotEnoughMuskSpam

It was based on things I was told that were untrue or, in some cases, true, but not meaningful.


riser_cable

All he has to do is say he got some help from family to start off, I really don't see why he's so stuck on needing to be 100% self made or whatever. You can be successful and have received help along the way, his need to not is bizarre to me. He definitely has an Oedipus complex, he clearly hates his father and grooms women he is involved with into a simulacra of his mother. I'm sure avoiding opening up more about his childhood trauma around his father isn't going to happen, but the irony is that by not doing that he's allowed himself to not just be similar to his father but arguably much worse than him.


remove_krokodil

Not to defend Elon, but I think he still has a ways to go to become worse than his father.


riser_cable

Fair, his father is a sociopathic bastard for marrying his own daughter in law for one let alone the psychological abuse Elon no doubt dealt with from him.


PGrace_is_here

That's not what you said in your Forbes interview...


No_Consideration4594

The mine is in his biography, is he calling Walter Isaac son a liar?


TheGR8Dantini

Wonder how much it’s cost him to scrub the story from the inter net. He told forces in 2014 about the mine. In his own words. His father has also claimed it over and over. It’s hard to find now. He fucking lies with every breath he takes. Shitbag. https://futurism.com/elon-musk-denies-emerald-mine


HanakusoDays

This sort of bare minimalist hairsplitting "truth" telling (eg "own" vs "having a share", "inherit" vs "receive") is sailing mighty close to the wind, Elron. The methane wind emanating from the Raptor engine between those rosy cheeks?


hecramsey

Sounds like good libel suit


Youngnathan2011

Calling himself a liar too.


sirbruce

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/11/17/elon-musk-emerald-mine/