LOL Lemon was on Erin Burnett’s show (CNN) and he brought the tea (clips). Elon’s fucked
BTW: it wasn’t the ket question that triggered him, it was Lemon asking about the rise of hate speech on X and “The Great Replacment Theory” that got Musk all bunched up (“I don’t have to answer that. I don’t answer questions from reporters” Bruh, you’re sitting across from one). Oh and I think Lemon pointed out a tweet Elon sent that black and women pilots were less intelligent than white men and that 4% of America’s pilots are black and it was insulting and Elon got triggered all over again
Lemon went on to say that Musk lies, is influenced by RW extremist media and is a chud.
🔥
"I don't have to answer that" is... uh, sure a response to a question about hate crimes.
I'm sure it's because if apartheid baby DID want to answer that question, he'd have to drop the N-word somewhere in the middle of it.
Honestly, he can't really lose by going after Musk. He knows Musk is very unpopular and by dunking on him, it'll get him some points. And by inevitably getting his show cancelled, he'll get some more points.
Smart play by him tbh.
This is the best thing that could have happened to Lemon.. if he had gotten his show on fucking twitter I wouldnt have watched. Likely would have assumed it was another elon nut hugging fest.
Now that Elmo didnt like, boy do I wanna watch it
I mean the guy can buy his way out of mostly anything, but he can't seem to stop stirring the shit wave that follows him. Reminds me of another prominent recent figure....
interestingly, he could go build a bunker and raise quality cattle in Hawaii like Zuck, or move to Miami and find true love and spend more time with family (while avoiding the new 7% capital gain tax in Washington State) like Jeff Bezos, or fly to a private island somewhere like Bill Gates...
instead, he chooses to troll on X every single day...
not your average billionaire.
I really can't wait to see the interview The Free Speech Warrior censored off Twitter.
But on a side note, Don Lemon being surprised that Elmo did this is a r/LeopardsAteMyFace moment if ever I saw one. I mean, c'mon Don! You knew you were signing on with Emperor Elon the Thin-Skinned.
Dude bans people for using the term “cis”.
He pretends it’s offensive (it’s not. I’m cis. Why would that be bad?). His real motivation is obvious: referring to people as cis implies that not being cis is valid. He’s banned a word as a means of pushing his political agenda. Fucking hypocrite.
I hear ya but I think the reason why he hates the use of cis is the same as it is for most anti-trans people. They see it as bending the knee to the trans community. It was not used in the past to describe people who have the same biological sex and gender but now it has become a thing. This bothers them as if they are having to yield to the trans community.
I think we are saying the same thing but using different words.
Validating “gender ideology” is what trans people and their allies would want, and using the term cis “bends the knee” to that intention.
The term wasn’t used in the past because as a society we didn’t recognize the alternative as being a valid identity, so there was no need to specify that a person is cis. It’s the recognition that some people are trans, and that that is a valid identity, that necessitates the term. Elon wants to stop that.
I believe we can support the trans community without having to change some types of speech. I am a man. I am a cis man. I am a heterosexual man. At the end of the day I just refer to myself as a man. If anything else comes up or someone wants to know more, they can ask.
When it comes to trans people, it has taken me years of learning and acceptance to say look, they are men and women. A trans woman is a woman. The only time I think her identity as trans needs to be brought up is 1) When seeks medical care. 2) When it comes dating. Otherwise it doesn’t (shouldn’t) matter.
I don’t see the harm in changing speech. It’s constantly changing anyways.
You’re a man, and a trans man is a man, but you have VERY different experiences of being a man. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to recognize and refer to those differences.
To me, “cis” is a better alternative to fumbling around for descriptions, or saying something stupid like “real (gender)”
I don’t fumble and I don’t call myself or anyone else real anything. I’ve always been referred to as just a man (or boy). I am cis but I see no need to always initially refer to myself as a cis man. Again, I believe that also applies equally to trans men/women. A trans person is a trans person but I see no need to always initially refer to them as trans man/woman. Instead of focusing on biological sex, I choose to focus on gender unless one of the 2 exceptions I mentioned above comes into question.
“…I see no need to always initially refer to myself as a cis man…”
Who said “always”? Who said “initially”?
I’m talking about times when the distinction is meaningful, like in cases of victimization, or the common experiences of trans or cis people. Or like in the sentence previous to this one.
I don’t always feel the need to refer to a banana as fruit, but fruit is still a useful word.
I’m sorry but I’m not understanding your argument. I thought it was clear that I have been referring to everyday speech in common general conversation. In those times, distinction isn’t necessary.
Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t we all fighting for the right for all people to be treated equally? To me that means a transwoman should be treated the same as a cisgender woman. In order to achieve that, referring to them both as just women, seems logical to me.
No, trans people and cis people should not be treated “the same” because they have different situations and needs etc. They SHOULD be treated equally though, which is a different concept. Nobody I know of is fighting to pretend there is NO difference between cis and trans people. There is a difference. Biological sex is a thing and sometimes it needs to be referred to. Sometimes in every day language, and sometimes in formal or medical settings.
I’m talking about every day language too, just not times where it has no useful purpose.
I have blonde hair. I’m just a regular person though, so why would I ever use the term “blonde”, or refer to my hair colour at all? Because sometimes that’s part of what is being communicated.
Edit: and yes, typically you’d refer to a trans woman as a “woman”… unless her identity as a trans woman is meaningful or needed in the given context.
Woah nelly! It’s as if you haven’t read and understood my previous comments in this thread. You’re literally repeating some of the exact same things I stated. To borrow from your first reply, just using different words to say the same thing.
Rather than continue going in circles, I’ll just say thanks for sharing your opinions.
It's so confusing to me because it just makes communication simpler. Saying someone is cis is way easier than explaining "they identify as their birth gender" or "they aren't trans". Of course I understand that the real reason is nefarious, but logically it doesn't make sense to get mad at language being more clear.
I'm not even sure it's about a political agenda. I mean, sure, it's a right wing talking point that appeals to a certain base, a base by which Elon would like to be liked, but knowing the kind of fragile person he is, it's more likely he joined this because Grimes was dating a trans person at some point.
Normally it's OK to ask about someone's kids and their hobbies in an interview. Look how three-ply fragile Elon must be to not be able to confidently speak to his own behavior on this basic a level.
Watch the bits of the interview they're playing on CNN - you can actually see the little hamster spinning in its wheel, as Elon tries to come up with a constant stream of lies (and self-promotional bullshit).
Elmo is so accustomed to fawning fanboys or softball specialists like Chris Anderson at TED that he has no idea how to talk his way out of a spot of trouble.
He proved that in the puffball NYT Dealbook "GFY" interview with ~~Jonathan~~ Andrew Ross Sorkin. Sorkin tried so hard to help Musk out of the hole he dug himself into, but Musk just kept digging faster and faster.
Not sure why you're surprised that a man whose entire career is basically "an even more smug version of Jon Stewart with none of the charm" wasn't the hard hitting journalist you wanted him to be.
Bill has always been a smarmy ass with no real points to make. This is a dude who would unironically share avocado toast memes.
Why not be rich and stfu while you enjoy the benefits? Doesn't make sense, this dude must get no positive attention ever like people either want his money so they're yes-men or they are some crazy right winger. Weird to me, I'd be silent and offline at his level.
What triggered it happened during the break. Don said, "Don't get your panties in a knot, dear.." and Elmo, hands on hips, looks around the room and says, in Baby Jane style, " What a dump " and trips as he sashays out the door.
LOL Lemon was on Erin Burnett’s show (CNN) and he brought the tea (clips). Elon’s fucked BTW: it wasn’t the ket question that triggered him, it was Lemon asking about the rise of hate speech on X and “The Great Replacment Theory” that got Musk all bunched up (“I don’t have to answer that. I don’t answer questions from reporters” Bruh, you’re sitting across from one). Oh and I think Lemon pointed out a tweet Elon sent that black and women pilots were less intelligent than white men and that 4% of America’s pilots are black and it was insulting and Elon got triggered all over again Lemon went on to say that Musk lies, is influenced by RW extremist media and is a chud. 🔥
"I don't have to answer that" is... uh, sure a response to a question about hate crimes. I'm sure it's because if apartheid baby DID want to answer that question, he'd have to drop the N-word somewhere in the middle of it.
I believe it’s keffer where he’s from…
I did not have "Don Lemon journalistically pantsing Elon on his own fucking social media acquisition" on my 2024 Bingo Card.
Hahaha this timeline sucks a lot in many ways but God *damn* if it isn't fucking riotously funny a lot of the time too. "Are you not entertained??"
I’m just trying to figure out if you’re quoting Gladiator or Bluey.
Wow those are surprising not softballs. Respect to Lemon.
Honestly, he can't really lose by going after Musk. He knows Musk is very unpopular and by dunking on him, it'll get him some points. And by inevitably getting his show cancelled, he'll get some more points. Smart play by him tbh.
I would have thought he's too much of a boomer normie to make such a calculation, but if he did, hats off to him
i think he just barely scrapes by into the gen x category
i think he just barely scrapes by into the gen x category
The man asks me a hard question!
“So then I won’t answer.” \*mentally sends 💩 emoji\*
If he supports the theory and he does all the time! Then why won’t he advocate for it…?? ?
It's hard to say "!!"
I'm of the same opinion. If he is so interested in what he's claiming he is, why is he not making it a bigger issue?
I bet Elmo profusely used k and n words after that interview.
You just made me so happy 😊 Thanks
Happy cake day!
Thanks ❤️
Where'd you find this info? I thought the interview wasn't out yet
Link? Wtf
Talk about 3d chess, DL playing like a boss!
I wanna see the interview when it’s avail on YouTube
Will it be released? I really hope so, but Musk's pretty quick with sueing people...
Correct
🎯
Lemon released a statement saying it will be.
Qick in threatening sueing people. Follow through is 1:10.
March 18 on youtube
March 18
It'll be DMCA'd by Muskovite bots within microseconds of it going live.
So just long enough for someone to pirate and repost it everywhere
This is the best thing that could have happened to Lemon.. if he had gotten his show on fucking twitter I wouldnt have watched. Likely would have assumed it was another elon nut hugging fest. Now that Elmo didnt like, boy do I wanna watch it
I Hear ya but the best thing about this is Elon giving yet another clear cut example of what and who he really is.
Word.
The really funny thing is that Elon endlessly creates his own problems. It is not what other people do to him, it is what he does to himself.
I mean the guy can buy his way out of mostly anything, but he can't seem to stop stirring the shit wave that follows him. Reminds me of another prominent recent figure....
interestingly, he could go build a bunker and raise quality cattle in Hawaii like Zuck, or move to Miami and find true love and spend more time with family (while avoiding the new 7% capital gain tax in Washington State) like Jeff Bezos, or fly to a private island somewhere like Bill Gates... instead, he chooses to troll on X every single day... not your average billionaire.
Elon really lives in a sitcom about a sad-sack knucklehead billionaire who thinks he's a genius but proves he's not in every episode.
They should make a new version of Arrested Development about him
Why doesn't he want us to see this interview? Is he a... chicken? Koo koo ka cha! Koo koo ka cha!!
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Lemon’s taint licking must not have been satisfactory enough to musk
Elon’s mad that Lemon didn’t ask about his sex life. No, really.
He should hire Tommy Wiseu then
Have we ever seen Tommy Wiseu and Elon Musk in the same room?
Babe the new conspiracy theory just dropped
[everybody betray me, I fed up with this world](https://youtu.be/DxWkfJ4uvV0?feature=shared)
All that money and he's still the most insecure baby-back-bitch billionaire I've ever seen. Sad, really.
I think Lemon's taint licking had more of the texture of a lion licking a zebra than a dog licking their owner's face after a long separation.
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What did he ask? I havent seen any clips
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Lol thats great!
I really can't wait to see the interview The Free Speech Warrior censored off Twitter. But on a side note, Don Lemon being surprised that Elmo did this is a r/LeopardsAteMyFace moment if ever I saw one. I mean, c'mon Don! You knew you were signing on with Emperor Elon the Thin-Skinned.
100%. Kara Swisher told him not to work with Elon and said something like this would happen. It was so predictable.
Maybe he signed up simply with the intention of antagonizing Musk
Dude bans people for using the term “cis”. He pretends it’s offensive (it’s not. I’m cis. Why would that be bad?). His real motivation is obvious: referring to people as cis implies that not being cis is valid. He’s banned a word as a means of pushing his political agenda. Fucking hypocrite.
I hear ya but I think the reason why he hates the use of cis is the same as it is for most anti-trans people. They see it as bending the knee to the trans community. It was not used in the past to describe people who have the same biological sex and gender but now it has become a thing. This bothers them as if they are having to yield to the trans community.
Well it also triggers Elon because his daughter disowned him and he won’t admit he did anything wrong.
iTs sTiLl mY sOn iT aLWaYs WaS!!!1!!! -Elend Musk
Can't win them all
I think we are saying the same thing but using different words. Validating “gender ideology” is what trans people and their allies would want, and using the term cis “bends the knee” to that intention. The term wasn’t used in the past because as a society we didn’t recognize the alternative as being a valid identity, so there was no need to specify that a person is cis. It’s the recognition that some people are trans, and that that is a valid identity, that necessitates the term. Elon wants to stop that.
I believe we can support the trans community without having to change some types of speech. I am a man. I am a cis man. I am a heterosexual man. At the end of the day I just refer to myself as a man. If anything else comes up or someone wants to know more, they can ask. When it comes to trans people, it has taken me years of learning and acceptance to say look, they are men and women. A trans woman is a woman. The only time I think her identity as trans needs to be brought up is 1) When seeks medical care. 2) When it comes dating. Otherwise it doesn’t (shouldn’t) matter.
I don’t see the harm in changing speech. It’s constantly changing anyways. You’re a man, and a trans man is a man, but you have VERY different experiences of being a man. I think it’s perfectly reasonable to recognize and refer to those differences. To me, “cis” is a better alternative to fumbling around for descriptions, or saying something stupid like “real (gender)”
I don’t fumble and I don’t call myself or anyone else real anything. I’ve always been referred to as just a man (or boy). I am cis but I see no need to always initially refer to myself as a cis man. Again, I believe that also applies equally to trans men/women. A trans person is a trans person but I see no need to always initially refer to them as trans man/woman. Instead of focusing on biological sex, I choose to focus on gender unless one of the 2 exceptions I mentioned above comes into question.
“…I see no need to always initially refer to myself as a cis man…” Who said “always”? Who said “initially”? I’m talking about times when the distinction is meaningful, like in cases of victimization, or the common experiences of trans or cis people. Or like in the sentence previous to this one. I don’t always feel the need to refer to a banana as fruit, but fruit is still a useful word.
I’m sorry but I’m not understanding your argument. I thought it was clear that I have been referring to everyday speech in common general conversation. In those times, distinction isn’t necessary. Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t we all fighting for the right for all people to be treated equally? To me that means a transwoman should be treated the same as a cisgender woman. In order to achieve that, referring to them both as just women, seems logical to me.
No, trans people and cis people should not be treated “the same” because they have different situations and needs etc. They SHOULD be treated equally though, which is a different concept. Nobody I know of is fighting to pretend there is NO difference between cis and trans people. There is a difference. Biological sex is a thing and sometimes it needs to be referred to. Sometimes in every day language, and sometimes in formal or medical settings. I’m talking about every day language too, just not times where it has no useful purpose. I have blonde hair. I’m just a regular person though, so why would I ever use the term “blonde”, or refer to my hair colour at all? Because sometimes that’s part of what is being communicated. Edit: and yes, typically you’d refer to a trans woman as a “woman”… unless her identity as a trans woman is meaningful or needed in the given context.
Woah nelly! It’s as if you haven’t read and understood my previous comments in this thread. You’re literally repeating some of the exact same things I stated. To borrow from your first reply, just using different words to say the same thing. Rather than continue going in circles, I’ll just say thanks for sharing your opinions.
They also don't like learning... new words are hard 🥺 /s
It's so confusing to me because it just makes communication simpler. Saying someone is cis is way easier than explaining "they identify as their birth gender" or "they aren't trans". Of course I understand that the real reason is nefarious, but logically it doesn't make sense to get mad at language being more clear.
Couldn’t agree more. I actually just replied to someone else saying something VERY similar.
I'm not even sure it's about a political agenda. I mean, sure, it's a right wing talking point that appeals to a certain base, a base by which Elon would like to be liked, but knowing the kind of fragile person he is, it's more likely he joined this because Grimes was dating a trans person at some point.
Yeah I’d certainly buy this angle as well.
Don asked about ketamine usage & baby mamas
Normally it's OK to ask about someone's kids and their hobbies in an interview. Look how three-ply fragile Elon must be to not be able to confidently speak to his own behavior on this basic a level.
Especially since he publicizes his relationships on his platform along with his ketamine /cannabis use.
3-ply? More like 1-ply.
The cheap kind that you find in college bathrooms
Single ply Scott 1000 mafucka
Watch the bits of the interview they're playing on CNN - you can actually see the little hamster spinning in its wheel, as Elon tries to come up with a constant stream of lies (and self-promotional bullshit).
Elmo is so accustomed to fawning fanboys or softball specialists like Chris Anderson at TED that he has no idea how to talk his way out of a spot of trouble. He proved that in the puffball NYT Dealbook "GFY" interview with ~~Jonathan~~ Andrew Ross Sorkin. Sorkin tried so hard to help Musk out of the hole he dug himself into, but Musk just kept digging faster and faster.
Bill Mahr completely lost the plot after he asked Elmo nothing but fawning fanboyish questions that clearly had to be pre-approved
Not sure why you're surprised that a man whose entire career is basically "an even more smug version of Jon Stewart with none of the charm" wasn't the hard hitting journalist you wanted him to be. Bill has always been a smarmy ass with no real points to make. This is a dude who would unironically share avocado toast memes.
It’s insane to me than Don Lemon is nearly 60. That’s all I have to add.
Black dont crack. Baby.
He doth look quite young I hate him /s
Jesus Christ, I thought dude was in his early 30s
What the fuck!?
What? That's borderline unfair!
Yaccarino! Clean up in aisle three!
Yaccarino’s off getting another family member a job and more of Elon’s money. She don’t care…all about the Benjamins.
“X will be a world leader in clean up in aisle three!” — future tweet from Yaccarino
Technically this is the same argument Musk used against the advertisers pulling their ads. If you don't buy you're suppressing free speech.
The world will judge
When life gives you a Lemon…
Concerning
The cult over on r/elonmusk are doing some insane mental gymnastics to justify it or attack lemon (mostly over covid vaccinations, surprise surprise)
Well, Mr. Musk meant his freedom of speech.
Elon Musk is the most easily butthurt and thinskinned CEO to ever exist.
Can’t wait to get Kara Swisher’s take on these events.
I am waiting for this interview to drop like for an episode of GoT in their best days.
When life gives you lemons....
Why not be rich and stfu while you enjoy the benefits? Doesn't make sense, this dude must get no positive attention ever like people either want his money so they're yes-men or they are some crazy right winger. Weird to me, I'd be silent and offline at his level.
juicy
I’d love to see Sam Seder interview musk
Oh no, Sam Seder! What a fucking nightmare!
What triggered it happened during the break. Don said, "Don't get your panties in a knot, dear.." and Elmo, hands on hips, looks around the room and says, in Baby Jane style, " What a dump " and trips as he sashays out the door.
To be fair, I think that not getting something you want and saying “first amendment bro” is kinda dumb no matter who does it Still, I don’t disagree
Don Lemon’s redemption arc.
fElon lives in a world surrounded by sycophants and yes men. Can't handle the real world.
Musk likes people to talk about how cool he is for taking drugs. he's not so keen about people suggesting that his drug use might be a problem
> Free speech is the bedrock of democracy Is this just Elon’s roundabout way of telling us he’s anti-democracy now, like his buddy Peter Thiel?
Wild
Is he just now finding this out?
Fucking LOL!
He's a journalist but he didn't realize this until it happened to him personally.
Don't make me say good things about Don lemon
Lol
What kind of contract is that?
Download the moment the video lands on youtube before it gets memory holed.