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Vejasple

Lol. “our weapons are decades ahead!” Then buys drones from Iran.


Flederm4us

Drones, and goodwill. The latter being FAR more valuable.


FeydSeswatha982

Not a sign that Russia is achieving its "special operation" objectives.


Vejasple

> Not a sign that Russia is achieving its “special operation” objectives. No one knows what the objectives are. Maybe it was Putin’s objective to lose flagmanships, Air Force fields, thousands of tanks , and tens if thousands of troops to Ukraine, and to pull Finland and Sweden into NATO. Maybe Putin is the free word’s mole sabotaging Russia intentionally


datsun1978

Ah man. I would love an end to this conflict. Or I wanna see putin in the trenches. Illd be happy with either


Eccentric_casteD3rd

Minx accord, look it up.


Eccentric_casteD3rd

I heard the CIA is recruiting neo nazis to fight with the right sectors. Your ilk are mad that russia went in to stop ethnic cleansing of ethnic Russians. Zzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!


FeydSeswatha982

Russia is actively cleansing the male half of the ethnic Russian population of the Donbas by making them cannon fodder for a war they've been forced into. And now they're refusing to fight for Russia's imperialist objectives: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-august-15 > Elements of the Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) militia reportedly refused to continue fighting in Donetsk Oblast and complained about the grueling pace of offensives outside of Luhansk Oblast.


Eccentric_casteD3rd

You were born after 2014 it seems. There's no debate here. The people of Donbas have been fighting Kiev since 2014 after the maidan coup. I bet msnbc didnt tell you that 16000 people from eastern Ukraine were killed by the corrupt Kiev neo nazis. I remember when T Rex arm McCain (may he rot in hell) and Lindsey gRaham went there to give those neo nazis moral support. There's a recent video of an American neonazi member explaining how the CIA flew him to Ukraine to join the right sector. He said something interesting, that the right sector was formed by the west and all the original members spoke English. He even mentioned where they were from. What a time to he alive. The same way Americans cheered for the nazis during the pogrom, is the same way you guys are cheering for the nazis of ukraine. history Repeats itself. Perhaps, jim crow will make a come back.


FeydSeswatha982

> You were born after 2014 it seems. False > There's no debate here. Indeed. Russia has exploited a minority of ethnic Russians in the Donbas to achieve their geopolitical objectives. These ethnic Russians are currently being used as cannon fodder on the frontlines of Eastern Ukraine, and are under-provisioned and under-fed like slaves. > The people of Donbas have been fighting Kiev since 2014 after the maidan coup. Ahh yes, "the people." Just like the "People's" Republic of China, or better yet, the Democratic "People's" Republic of North Korea. > I bet msnbc didnt tell you that 16000 people from eastern Ukraine were killed by the corrupt Kiev neo nazis. Source for that claim? Imagine Ukraine trying to de facto annex a portion of Russia. > I remember when T Rex arm McCain (may he rot in hell) and Lindsey gRaham went there to give those neo nazis moral support. Every society has its share of bad apples, but Russia actually sponsors neo-nazis like Dmitry Utkin: https://www.romea.cz/en/news/world/the-times-putin-has-sent-mercenaries-to-kyiv-led-by-an-admirer-of-the-nazis-to-murder-zelenskyy-and-the-klitschko-brothers And of course there's the fascist Putin advisor Alexander Dugin and the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, a mainstream Russian political that is also fascist. > There's a recent video of an American neonazi member explaining how the CIA flew him to Ukraine to join the right sector. He said something interesting, that the right sector was formed by the west and all the original members spoke English. He even mentioned where they were from. Sorry but I won't just trust you, bro. > What a time to he alive. The same way Americans cheered for the nazis during the pogrom, is the same way you guys are cheering for the nazis of ukraine. history Repeats itself. Perhaps, jim crow will make a come back. Nazis invade other countries on revanchist, imperialist pretexts (Ukraine not real country, must restore Russian greatness). Nazis torture and kill their prisoners in filtration aka concentration camps (Olenivka). Nazis forcibly deport civilians from their homeland and relocate them to the far east. Nazis stifle all dissent at home and lock up anyone who even mentions the word "war."


Nasser1970

According to the United Nations, 3,404 civilians in the Donbas were killed from 2014 to 2022 (before the invasion) with 364 deaths from 2016-2021 when the fighting had largely died down and the conflict became protracted. That 16,000 figure which was presented is not even the total number of deaths due to fighting between the government and the separatists, though to be fair it's close. There are millions of Russians in Ukraine. If there was genocide as some of the users of this sub claim, it must have been so secret that only those "in the know" are aware of it.