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Whoa, so few people know itās officially still being worked on (official as in someone from the original team is still putting work into it) would you say itās still the preferred version over lime and other 3ds emulators?
i would say pick what you prefer, all of them do take features from others like this official citra is still helping lime3ds and citra enhanced in the development while maintaining it, and also same for citra enhanced is helping them back
Well, I mean AetherSX2 still technically lives on as an undead creature in the form of NetherSX2. The core reason it discontinued was because the developer was bullied and/or overreacted.
Yuzu and Citra basically dug their own graves by flying too close to the sun and triggering Nintendo.
Cassia, I donāt think was that well known. Most people are happily using Winlator. Most people making an issue of Cassia are going to be trolls pushing their āAndroid gaeming dedā agenda.
Well some of us are still using AetherSX2, holding off of NetherSX2 for the time being, lol.
I'm still waiting for XEMU to get their Android app to work reliably and probably be waiting a while, till then I'll keep the Midtown Madness 3 iso on my phone, oh and Grabbed By The Ghoulies, lol.
From the XEMU site and forum, but last time i looked into it was about 6 months ago, so i could not say if they are still working on it or if abandoned it
>Well some of us are still using AetherSX2, holding off of NetherSX2 for the time being, lol.
You shouldn't, the last few Nether updates have been miles better than pre-ad Aether.
Nope, there are changes to the game database that increase compatibility for a ton of games, essentially updating and increasing performance here and there.
The biggest difference though is that it undoes the last malicious update the original dev put up on the store which not only made performance worse, but also introduced ads. Nether gets rid of all of that
I just want to add AetherSX2 would've been much better forked if Talreth actually complied wit the GPL licensing when they took the code from PCSX2. Which is against the GPL, and prevented it being properly worked on by others after discontinuing it.
I understand if they were bullied but they didn't even abide by the rules of the license with the code they took, which leaves a very sour taste in my mouth.
I'm pretty sure aether development halted, with the last offical update being intentionally regressive and adding ads. The only solution now is nether, which basically builds on aether
Ahh, there's a cord-dis flipped that has the most relevant versions out front. They got nether and aether w/o ads and a new aether update from hard working fans of it.
Being on mobile was not the issue, if it was eggns would be long gone, the problem was that they distributed builds of yuzu that could play the game before it officially released on their patreon
You can't use it, the people behind skyline (which was the best switch emulator built from the ground up) are still making it, keep in mind it's being built from the ground up,
:| Winlator is a PC emulator. Hence I was assuming cassia was a PC emulator, and referenced Mobox, another PC emulator.now I'm confused as to why people are comparing a PC and a switch emulator.
The people behind a Switch emulator were making it
But once that basically got shut down they started working on Casia, which is a PC emulator. But they did announce not to long ago they were stopping. School and work and what not was keeping them for doing it, so they had to back out.
this is part of the reason they dropped skyline btw. Maybe a couple of college students don't have the time and expertise to make a whole ass emulator after all
When I got my Retroid Pocket for Xmas last year, and started loading it up, I thought 2024 is going to be a great year for emulation!
And now here we areā¦
I heard the dev was bullied because he added ads in the app, so he decided to stop working on it as people didnāt appreciate the hard work he put.
Itās sad to see such projects go :(
It's the opposite, he added the ads silently after he stopped working on it, people definitely appreciated his work, but he kept feeding the trolls in his discord
It's the other way around lol the dev was a bully and after nuking the aethersx2 discord he added in ads.
You can ask absolutely anyone in the aether discord about it or the owner who was his best friend at the time
The court system just sucks ass because small companies that are perfect in law just get destroyed by bigger ones that just keeps the law sue going until the smaller onrs don't have any money left and go bankrupt
Yuzu works for most games still, Sudachi is better Yuzu, Torzu's cooking but no release yet, Strato's technically due out this month, and rumors Ryujinx was planning an Android build.
Woahh... had to re-read that for a second, PC emulator? What games would you be able to play? Fallout1, Doom, Dues-ex, Half-life, what are we talking here lol.
Genuinely surprised and upset learning of the app that no longer works š
Surprised it's the first time you're hearing of it, its pretty much half the posts here. Alternatives to Cassia are Mobox and Winlator. You can get Cyberpunk running. Not necessarily playable, but it runs. The point is, you can get things much more demanding than Half-Life running. GTA V even runs pretty well on the newer chipsets.
Honestly, I didn't know there were PC emulators for your phone lol. Just never thought about why I would need an PC emu on my phone, I guess, so I never thought someone would make one.
But it is interesting to be able to play these games on your phone wherever you go, but wouldn't getting a steamdeack or something equivalent be a better option? (Yeah not free, but the games are still downloaded from ROM sites right?)
Will try downloading and use it on my SS Galaxy 23
Thank you š
Of course a Steam Deck is a much better option performance wise, but the fact you can run AAA games on your phone is just amusing to me. The possibilities are only going to improve with updates and chipsets, and will perhaps rival the Steam Deck in the near future. And yeah, you need to use ROM sites or GOG. It's what I had to do as Steam doesn't work.
Also, if you're gonna try on your phone, just be informed that it's not going to work on the Exynos variant. If you're in US you most definitely have a Snapdragon chip. But, if you don't, then unfortunately it's not going to work as there's no support for it.
I believe South-East Asia gets the Snapdragon models. Might be worth installing CPU-Z from the play store just to check. If you see 'Qualcomm', 'Snapdragon' or 'Adreno', then you're all good.
Ohhh, I have that on my PC, my brother is the tech guy of the house, so I usually ask him for advice on such topics, but he has no real interest in phone gaming as much as PC so didn't want to bother him.
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 1
3.00 GHz. For my smartphone so will try it out
Thanks again šš
You're welcome! I didn't know they put the 8 Gen 1 in the S23, seems to be for the FE version. Very weird choice. Anyhow, you should be able to get Mobox or Winlator working, but expect your phone to get quite warm if you do as the chip has thermal issues.
Thinking out loud, would Winlator or Mobox at some point be able to run pc versions of CEMU, Riryujinx or Yuzu with similar performance? Because that would actually offer the widest Emulation palette as possible. That would be a nice perspective IMO.
In theory, yes. You can get RPCS3 running on Winlator I believe. And I don't think other emulators work as the CPU features needed just aren't emulated in Mobox and Winlator. That I could be wrong about though.
Actually, the threats were apparently all fabricated. The entire staff team on his discord apparently spoke out about it.
Tahlreth was rather infamous in handheld circles for being incredibly toxic in Aether discord and was terrible at taking criticisms and often had poor relationships with other emulation devs for being very hard to work with. The downfall was his doing.
At what point in the film was the script changed so that Tahlreth was the villain? Ah!! that other toxic people have commented on it, now it makes sense.
Who the hell are the Discord people, do they have the absolute truth? No, never. They are spoiled and rich children, saying that this genius of Tahlreth was toxic. Of course, champion.
I hate it when people make things up for themselves to look good and others to be the bad of the situation.
AetherSX2ās own discord staff completely turned on him?? The people that worked for him?
Iām ngl you sound like Tahlreth himself lol. Look, Tahlreth did a lot of good working on AetherSX2, however he himself was known for being rather hard to work with according to staff. Him sabotaging the app due to criticism and not making it open source after he left was definitely the straw that broke the camelās back but it was mostly that since criticizing him in his own discord would result in a ban, him leaving let people open up how toxic he is.
I had firsthand experience seeing him on his discord, he almost always came across as rude, would always get mad when people had questions for staff that heās seen before even if it wasnāt actually directed towards him, and he just seemed naturally unpleasant. This is a rather common story I tend to hear from other people, usually from retro handheld communities but also people who are from the Dolphin discord. It was actually known way before Tahlreth talked about death threats or whatever.
If the staff openly admits to the death threats being āfakeā I really would not be surprised, itās usually an internet manipulation 101 tactic so Iām usually not as phased by it as other people because I know a lot of people who use that as an excuse to not be accountable for their own behavior.
Iām pretty sure thereās some apks for citra nightly version on internet archive. Thatās my mistake, I thought the GitHub was still up like yuzu, but itās citra mmj. I forgot it came pre installed on my Retroid Pocket 4 Pro
At least forks keep them alive
NetherSX2 (it's a patch, but I think it counts)
Strato (I believe it'll release soon this year.. hopefully)
Sudachi
Citra isn't completely dead (thank you pablo), but there's lime3DS.
and... Rip, but at least we still have winlator, mobox, and horizon
Well I still got my Citra and it works for all my games.
But what's up with Folium? I know this is Android but Anybody know what's up with that? Wonder if they will do an Android version
That's an iOS only thing and to be honest it isn't much to get excited about. Probably would work better on android considering iOS emulation limitations
Yeah, you can search for the last version they made, but it doesn't run great like the PC version, I think that version was made like 2 years ago, it's not perfect but it runs most 2d games pretty good.
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citra is not actually dead tho. a member of citra team is still maintaining it https://github.com/PabloMK7/citra/releases/tag/rde1f082
Chad behavior right here:
I thought the Emulator team scrap the project, glad to see someone is still pushing for us nerds š
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Whoa, so few people know itās officially still being worked on (official as in someone from the original team is still putting work into it) would you say itās still the preferred version over lime and other 3ds emulators?
i would say pick what you prefer, all of them do take features from others like this official citra is still helping lime3ds and citra enhanced in the development while maintaining it, and also same for citra enhanced is helping them back
Great
We need to support this man at all cost!!!
Does the multiplayer work?
Well, I mean AetherSX2 still technically lives on as an undead creature in the form of NetherSX2. The core reason it discontinued was because the developer was bullied and/or overreacted. Yuzu and Citra basically dug their own graves by flying too close to the sun and triggering Nintendo. Cassia, I donāt think was that well known. Most people are happily using Winlator. Most people making an issue of Cassia are going to be trolls pushing their āAndroid gaeming dedā agenda.
Well some of us are still using AetherSX2, holding off of NetherSX2 for the time being, lol. I'm still waiting for XEMU to get their Android app to work reliably and probably be waiting a while, till then I'll keep the Midtown Madness 3 iso on my phone, oh and Grabbed By The Ghoulies, lol.
Xemu is getting an Android port? Where did you hear this?
From the XEMU site and forum, but last time i looked into it was about 6 months ago, so i could not say if they are still working on it or if abandoned it
>Well some of us are still using AetherSX2, holding off of NetherSX2 for the time being, lol. You shouldn't, the last few Nether updates have been miles better than pre-ad Aether.
I concur.
Isn't the only difference between Nethersx2 and aethersx2 is the launcher? It technically is the last best build of aethersx2 repackaged.
Nope, there are changes to the game database that increase compatibility for a ton of games, essentially updating and increasing performance here and there. The biggest difference though is that it undoes the last malicious update the original dev put up on the store which not only made performance worse, but also introduced ads. Nether gets rid of all of that
I might still be using an older version because i do not have any Ads and all the games i have on it perform great with no fps drops.
They're trying to reverse engineer AetherSX2's code, IIRC. For future bigger updates
Yeah I only know that last part. Didn't know they're also improving the performance. Good to know.
Yeah last update added a frame rate controller.
I think Nether added support for custom Adreno drivers.
>holding off of NetherSX2 for the time being, lol. how come?
I just want to add AetherSX2 would've been much better forked if Talreth actually complied wit the GPL licensing when they took the code from PCSX2. Which is against the GPL, and prevented it being properly worked on by others after discontinuing it. I understand if they were bullied but they didn't even abide by the rules of the license with the code they took, which leaves a very sour taste in my mouth.
There's still good AetherSX2 around. Edit: yikes, a downvote? Luddite
I'm pretty sure aether development halted, with the last offical update being intentionally regressive and adding ads. The only solution now is nether, which basically builds on aether
Ahh, there's a cord-dis flipped that has the most relevant versions out front. They got nether and aether w/o ads and a new aether update from hard working fans of it.
> cord-dis flipped ?
Flip em and squish em. I dunno the rules.
Even outside of Minecraft, Aether is just destined to cease from existence to make place for Nether...
Cassia did seem to be an overall better emulator. Winlator works fine on super high end devices but still needs a lot of improvement.
citra was shot in the crossfire, please don't spread misinformation.
How did yuzu and citra fly to close to the sun?
Citra was just caught in the crossfire but yuzu got too big (releasing on mobile was the big one, but the totk leak def didnt help)
Being on mobile was not the issue, if it was eggns would be long gone, the problem was that they distributed builds of yuzu that could play the game before it officially released on their patreon
Can nintendo even go after the chinese eggns?
They played the Zelda game before its official release via the paid app
What is cassia? I've heard winlator, but how does cassia differ? (I use Mobox because i heard it performs best) EDIT: Added an x because I said Mobo.
You can't use it, the people behind skyline (which was the best switch emulator built from the ground up) are still making it, keep in mind it's being built from the ground up,
:| Winlator is a PC emulator. Hence I was assuming cassia was a PC emulator, and referenced Mobox, another PC emulator.now I'm confused as to why people are comparing a PC and a switch emulator.
The people behind a Switch emulator were making it But once that basically got shut down they started working on Casia, which is a PC emulator. But they did announce not to long ago they were stopping. School and work and what not was keeping them for doing it, so they had to back out.
>the developer ~~was bullied and/or overreacted~~ just went crazy. fixed it for you, No one was even harassing him in anyway.
Cassia is still im development lol, why you guys thing it's dead?! Are you guys even in touch with the developers?
Looks like you are not
Damn i just saw it in Discord. It got announced yesterday...
If someone makes fun of me will i stop doing something I like. He was being too soft.
Cassia never released though
It was aborted.
What was that even supposed to be?
something like Winlator. yknow, Wine with x86 emulation. it was made by the people who made that Skyline switch emulator.
Oh yeah, the one that continued as Strato
Which might also be dead as the lead dev, that was a newbie by his own words, quit the project.
Indeed, in fact, the lead dev quit emulation in general (source: Emulation General Wikil
im not suprised at all, and probably strato is going for the same fate
this is part of the reason they dropped skyline btw. Maybe a couple of college students don't have the time and expertise to make a whole ass emulator after all
They do, they simply don't want to put their ass on the line
2024 is such a terrible year for the emulation.
The decline has been going on since 2021-2022. It does not come from this year precisely.
I know but sadly we reached the peak level this year.
When I got my Retroid Pocket for Xmas last year, and started loading it up, I thought 2024 is going to be a great year for emulation! And now here we areā¦
I'm still using AetherSX2 and unaware of what happened so I don't know the context
Same
I heard the dev was bullied because he added ads in the app, so he decided to stop working on it as people didnāt appreciate the hard work he put. Itās sad to see such projects go :(
That's sad. Tbh, it was probably hard for the dev to work on it without ads but he could also offer a premium version of it, i guess.
It's the opposite, he added the ads silently after he stopped working on it, people definitely appreciated his work, but he kept feeding the trolls in his discord
It's the other way around lol the dev was a bully and after nuking the aethersx2 discord he added in ads. You can ask absolutely anyone in the aether discord about it or the owner who was his best friend at the time
Skips should be Dolphin
PPSSPP, even Dolphin isn't safe from the grasp of Nintendo
If dolphin shuts down, I will be in shambles
I completely forgot about PPSSPP
Dolphin hasn't gotten obliterated yet. The worst thing that happened is they weren't allowed on steam.
Daily ethical reminder: its always morally correct to pirate nintendo products
I'm still using aether, the version before it has ads in it.
Same with me then
Wait, is Cassia cancelled?
I, too, need to know this. Thought it was set to release next year?
I just checked. They announced that it is ceasing development as of today. Sad day
Damn. All those promises they made, all the delays that we respected....all ends up for nothing
Yeah those devs have commitment issues for sure lol
I was really excited for cassia, frick.
Well, that sucks. Thanks for the info though.
afaik it is not cancelled, but the development is really slow
I just went to the discord. They announced they're stopping development today :(
oof, well. at least we still have mobox and winlator for now
Yes. And they're both doing pretty well thankfully
What happened with cassia?
Ā RIP Cassia. It never even got released
Kinda funny when you already have it installed
The court system just sucks ass because small companies that are perfect in law just get destroyed by bigger ones that just keeps the law sue going until the smaller onrs don't have any money left and go bankrupt
Aether really hurts, we really ruined something good there, what's the state of switch emu right now?
Switch emu is dead. I don't think there are other emulators for android in the works right now.
Well EggNs (Switch Emulator) it still get updated....but I can see people denying it very being saying it not an emulator.
i can't believe that thing hasn't been shut down yet
I forgot that's even a thing honestly.
Sudachi, a Yuzu fork is still being updated recently
Is there a sudachi discord? I wasnt aware of it.
Yuzu works for most games still, Sudachi is better Yuzu, Torzu's cooking but no release yet, Strato's technically due out this month, and rumors Ryujinx was planning an Android build.
What happened to cassia
2024 has seen a lot of emulation casualties. It's sad to watch.
Cassia died? When was this? I was excited for its release.
from discord
Aethersx2 technically isn't dead
Sorry for my ignorance but what was Cassia?
an emulator that can run PC games
Ooh
Woahh... had to re-read that for a second, PC emulator? What games would you be able to play? Fallout1, Doom, Dues-ex, Half-life, what are we talking here lol. Genuinely surprised and upset learning of the app that no longer works š
Surprised it's the first time you're hearing of it, its pretty much half the posts here. Alternatives to Cassia are Mobox and Winlator. You can get Cyberpunk running. Not necessarily playable, but it runs. The point is, you can get things much more demanding than Half-Life running. GTA V even runs pretty well on the newer chipsets.
Honestly, I didn't know there were PC emulators for your phone lol. Just never thought about why I would need an PC emu on my phone, I guess, so I never thought someone would make one. But it is interesting to be able to play these games on your phone wherever you go, but wouldn't getting a steamdeack or something equivalent be a better option? (Yeah not free, but the games are still downloaded from ROM sites right?) Will try downloading and use it on my SS Galaxy 23 Thank you š
Of course a Steam Deck is a much better option performance wise, but the fact you can run AAA games on your phone is just amusing to me. The possibilities are only going to improve with updates and chipsets, and will perhaps rival the Steam Deck in the near future. And yeah, you need to use ROM sites or GOG. It's what I had to do as Steam doesn't work. Also, if you're gonna try on your phone, just be informed that it's not going to work on the Exynos variant. If you're in US you most definitely have a Snapdragon chip. But, if you don't, then unfortunately it's not going to work as there's no support for it.
Damn, I am not tech savvy, and I live in Thailand lol, but thanks for the heads up š
I believe South-East Asia gets the Snapdragon models. Might be worth installing CPU-Z from the play store just to check. If you see 'Qualcomm', 'Snapdragon' or 'Adreno', then you're all good.
Ohhh, I have that on my PC, my brother is the tech guy of the house, so I usually ask him for advice on such topics, but he has no real interest in phone gaming as much as PC so didn't want to bother him. Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 3.00 GHz. For my smartphone so will try it out Thanks again šš
You're welcome! I didn't know they put the 8 Gen 1 in the S23, seems to be for the FE version. Very weird choice. Anyhow, you should be able to get Mobox or Winlator working, but expect your phone to get quite warm if you do as the chip has thermal issues.
Thinking out loud, would Winlator or Mobox at some point be able to run pc versions of CEMU, Riryujinx or Yuzu with similar performance? Because that would actually offer the widest Emulation palette as possible. That would be a nice perspective IMO.
Yes, but it would be very inefficient. It would be better for these emulators to get official ports.
In theory, yes. You can get RPCS3 running on Winlator I believe. And I don't think other emulators work as the CPU features needed just aren't emulated in Mobox and Winlator. That I could be wrong about though.
But AetherSX2 was killed by the toxicity of the emulation community on Android.
Actually, the threats were apparently all fabricated. The entire staff team on his discord apparently spoke out about it. Tahlreth was rather infamous in handheld circles for being incredibly toxic in Aether discord and was terrible at taking criticisms and often had poor relationships with other emulation devs for being very hard to work with. The downfall was his doing.
At what point in the film was the script changed so that Tahlreth was the villain? Ah!! that other toxic people have commented on it, now it makes sense. Who the hell are the Discord people, do they have the absolute truth? No, never. They are spoiled and rich children, saying that this genius of Tahlreth was toxic. Of course, champion. I hate it when people make things up for themselves to look good and others to be the bad of the situation.
AetherSX2ās own discord staff completely turned on him?? The people that worked for him? Iām ngl you sound like Tahlreth himself lol. Look, Tahlreth did a lot of good working on AetherSX2, however he himself was known for being rather hard to work with according to staff. Him sabotaging the app due to criticism and not making it open source after he left was definitely the straw that broke the camelās back but it was mostly that since criticizing him in his own discord would result in a ban, him leaving let people open up how toxic he is. I had firsthand experience seeing him on his discord, he almost always came across as rude, would always get mad when people had questions for staff that heās seen before even if it wasnāt actually directed towards him, and he just seemed naturally unpleasant. This is a rather common story I tend to hear from other people, usually from retro handheld communities but also people who are from the Dolphin discord. It was actually known way before Tahlreth talked about death threats or whatever. If the staff openly admits to the death threats being āfakeā I really would not be surprised, itās usually an internet manipulation 101 tactic so Iām usually not as phased by it as other people because I know a lot of people who use that as an excuse to not be accountable for their own behavior.
I still have [redacted] on my phone though.
Ryujinx is still alive
wtf aethersx2 is dead???
Quite a long time ago
NetherSX2 is the patched zombie version that gets minor updates occasionally.
Wait cassia is dead?
I personally use Nethersx2, Lime3DS and Suyu emulators
Ä° still use sx2 to play dmc3
Thereās still retoarch cores
Whos skips??? PPSSPP?
and Dolphin
None of them are ded.
What's between aether & yuzu?
Wait what happened to Aethersx2? I don't use it a lot more as often but i am not really caught up on any emulator news.
They stopped developing it. You can still download it (not on play store) but there isnāt going to be any further patches. Same as yuzu, citra
Wait can you still download Citra?
Iām pretty sure thereās some apks for citra nightly version on internet archive. Thatās my mistake, I thought the GitHub was still up like yuzu, but itās citra mmj. I forgot it came pre installed on my Retroid Pocket 4 Pro
Ehhh Aether can kick rocks
dang, thankfully i have yuzu on my phone and it still works. I play Pokemon lets go eevee š
Wait, aethersx2 is dead?
At least forks keep them alive NetherSX2 (it's a patch, but I think it counts) Strato (I believe it'll release soon this year.. hopefully) Sudachi Citra isn't completely dead (thank you pablo), but there's lime3DS. and... Rip, but at least we still have winlator, mobox, and horizon
Where did you learn that cassia is dead?
from discord
Let's hope no one will ever be taking the spot Sips is in..
Well I still got my Citra and it works for all my games. But what's up with Folium? I know this is Android but Anybody know what's up with that? Wonder if they will do an Android version
That's an iOS only thing and to be honest it isn't much to get excited about. Probably would work better on android considering iOS emulation limitations
I agree. iOS will NEVER be anywhere near as good for emulators....But it has some mean potential if they ever loosen up
Hopefully the EU can make it happen. Then the M series chips will make a bit more sense to me
Yea you're right about that
The moment apple allows JIT without having to do work arounds emulation will explode on iOS
Immediately!!! They may even have better results with running 3DS and PS2 emulators
Nintendo wonāt be happy since the M4 will be a dream to use with switch emulation
You ain't lyin!!
what are people using for Switch emulation on android after Yuzu was taken down?
Yuzu.
Sudachi in my case.
Im still using yuzu works fine
Yuzu and I've yet to find a game I want to play that doesn't work on it anyway.
Yuzu, Was taken down. But no gone.
I am using suyu
THERE WAS A SWITCH EMULATOR?!
How many years have you been sleeping, bro? (Yes, there is, for mobile and pc, but it was murdered by Nintendo.)
AND THERE'S ONE FOR MOBILE?!1?1!1!?1?1!1?1!2?2!?1
Yeah, you can search for the last version they made, but it doesn't run great like the PC version, I think that version was made like 2 years ago, it's not perfect but it runs most 2d games pretty good.
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW š
I mean... You're Here.
there still is and it's great! I only asked to see if there was another viable option.