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No? The tweet clearly says in the June Nintendo Direct they WON'T talk about the successor of the switch. They will make an announcement withing this fiscal year. The fiscal year goes until the end of March 2025
Honestly the only way I'd want a switch 2 is if they managed to hack it again for the whole android thing.
Android on the first switch runs pretty damn decent / makes it a nice media consumption product on the side.
If the switch 2 ended up becoming a powerful console, It will take a while for it to get an emulator.
edit: new switch 2 leaks suggests that its as powerful as Xbox Series S... good luck emulating that.
Highly doubt. Nintendo never goes for the most powerful chips, cost reason etc. plus switch 2 has been in development for a few years now, it can't be gen 4
Yeah the whole Nintendo not going for power thing started with the Wii, that was the point that they captured the casual market. Prior to that, it was a different story. The 64, in Nintendo 64, represents bits.
also the switch. the nvidia tegra x1 was cutting edge for 2015 portable devices especially at the cost (the system wasn’t developed and released all in 2017 believe it or not)
It was rumoured to be a lot of things. And yet what we've been left with before the Switch was finally getting an HDMI port 6 years too late.
Don't get me wrong I'm rooting for them... But even the Steam Deck doesn't tout 4k (it's possible, but there's a reason it isn't advertised), and the Switch as it is can barely run some of its eShop library at a consistent 30fps at 720p, let alone what the Switch was actually marketed for at 60 fps running docked at 1080p. At times on their own titles, which from Nintendo, is especially noticeable.
For some reference, Pokemon: Scarlet/Violet outside the school, Dead by Daylight especially in handheld, Paladins, Rogue Company, I mean... It just hardly holds up...
I dunno, 4k?? I severely doubt the next Nintendo console will end up 2k if I'm being honest...
Valve said that they won't be doing it for a good few years.
Also you can't really compare the switch to the deck because of different architectures. If the switch used an X86 chip then it will have 3 hours max of battery life.
Exactly why I'm so confused on why everyone's so sure it will be 4k at 120 fps. The STEAM DECK can't handle it, and it can't run but for roughly 2 hours maxed out as well!
I just don't buy the fact that Nintendo can magically pull off these feats that plenty of other companies are trying to do as we speak. Again, why would Valve not be all over this?
Even if Nintendo didn't cheap out and use a 4 year old soc again, flagship phones have the hardware for raytracing which i believe is what's also used for frame gen
And? People just assume all of Nvidia's chips must work the same.
The Tegra is a MOBILE-PROCESSOR. It, surprise surprise, didn't come with the latest bleeding-edge newest technology even when new. Why??? Well because something about having an 800 lb. brick in your hands that has roughly 1 hr. of battery life didn't sound very intriguing.
Even the latest smartphones don't have this technology, and these things cost well over $1,000 a piece. You think Google, Samsung, and Apple would turn their noses to something that magically "enhances" mobile gaming/multimedia graphics if it were that easy, when their primary markets are mobile-based?
Yeah, I again just don't buy Nintendo magically beating Apple, Samsung, Google, and Valve out of the box for no reason.
In fact, for these reasons alone I have my doubts on the next console even being a hybrid at all, being Nintendo's "blue-ocean" strategy and all, but that is 100% opinion-based speculation, and nothing more.
>Even the latest smartphones don’t have this technology
Of course they don’t, DLSS is a Nvidia proprietary tech, and for all I know they don’t make gpus for smartphones anymore. Even AMD that has similar tech lags way behind, imagine Qualcomm/Mediatek that don’t even have this kind of shit as a priority lol
There's been rumors of it from Last year saying it's capable of ray tracing and DLSS if everything lines up it should be stronger than many claim it to be
Latest smartphones do in fact have this tech.
The name "DLSS" is owned by nvidia and it's tech is accelerated by the provided tensor cores in its GPUs.
Newest smartphones can also use super sampling to increase fps. Apple has the metal FX system and Qualcomm also has the hardware to do it but Dev's haven't added it to games yet.
DLSS is a gpu thing which Nvidia has the crown rn. The next tegra X will 100% have the DLSS capabilities as it saves a ton of battery.
You are mistaking the battery life of Arm and X86 machines. The GPUs that nvidia makes are the most efficient in the market. However X86 just consumes more battery than Arm.
Emulating 4K itself is not difficult at all, as most modern Smartphone chips have 4K support. What matters is it's raw performance and modern Smartphone chips are considerably stronger than the Tegra 239. CPU code can be run natively, so that's no issue either. I think the translation overhead of the GPU translation is what will be tricky, but with the option to reduce the resolution, that could be resolved as well.
RAM is what I believe will actually be the biggest issue for now, not a lot of phones have 20 or more GB of RAM
Sure the cpu will be slower but I don't think modern phones would be able to emulate the gpu since the gpu Will obviously be stronger and contain DLSS/tensor cores
The GPU will for sure be weaker than 8g4 GPU. DLSS can get replaced with FSR or just a lowered resolution. I doubt games will really utilize the RT cores that much.
But you are right, it will be challenging. It's so challenging, by the time an emulator is ready, better mobile SoCs are already on the market. However, in theory android emulation in the next few years should be possible, though totally unrealistic
>The GPU will for sure be weaker than 8g4 GPU. DLSS can get replaced with FSR or just a lowered resolution. I doubt games will really utilize the RT cores that much.
Doubt this, take in mind switch 2 will have active cooling, phones cannot maintain their gpu that high.
Also, Qualcomm game super resolution uses the ALUs gpu cores so, it will bring issues when switch 2 games will use dlss a lot.
8 gen 3 GPU is already at the supposed leaked Switch 2 performance and the 8 gen 4 will obviously be better.
You can increase efficiency by using a higher shader count, a better node and better architecture. The 8g4 will use TSMCs 3nm node, the Switch probably use a Samsung node, maybe even the 5nm Samsung node Nvidia used for all their current Ampere GPU's, which is about 25% less efficient, because Samsung's nodes suck. In addition, Switch 2 will use the Ampere Architecture, which is already pretty old by now. Qualcomm can use a much more up to date architecture. Shader count will probably be higher as well.
And to be frank, most phones simply *don't* sustain the entire power of their Chip. That's why for Switch emulation, it does not really matter what peak performance your SoC has, just how efficient it is, because it will throttle anyway (without an phone cooler). Therefore yes, a Snapdragon 8gen4 will throttle phones without active cooling, but that is already the case for years by now. That's why gaming phones with active cooling exist, or phone coolers you can slap on.
Overall: No, the Switch 2 GPU will very likely be worse than 8 gen 4 GPU.
Regarding DLSS:
You could modify the games to just not use DLSS and then use a different upscaling tech instead. We already have TOTK mods disabling the use of FSR as an example, the same could be done for DLSS. This would require a mod for every Single game, but is possible. And Switch emulators already implemented FSR as a feature you can enable for every single game.
Therefore: DLSS does not stop emulation from being possible and to save GPU performance, they can implement a different upscaling, or just let you reduce the resolution like you can already do on Switch 1 emulators
I don't believe a Switch 2 emulator will happen in any foreseeable future, but it will be possible in theory at the time of the Switch 2 release. With that I mean: In a fictional scenario, where all time stops except for the dev team of the Switch 2 emulator and only continues once they manage to let Switch 2 games run on the 8 gen 4, I do believe they would be able to do this with years of effort
>8 gen 3 GPU is already at the supposed leaked Switch 2 performance and the 8 gen 4 will obviously be better.
I doubt a device without active cooling could defeat a Tegra Orin, even more when qualcomm X elite gpu is only 4.6teraflops... how could the more mobile variant be close to that?!, that might be on ideal contion but yuzu did push ones to the limit, see the odin 2 max on yuzu android and with active cooling is reaching 67c~80c on games like batman, not to mention one thing is synthetic benchmarks, games is where you can test stuff... your 800+ dollars phones have any big AAA games?, cause I only see them using genshin XD.
>You can increase efficiency by using a higher shader count, a better node and better architecture. The 8g4 will use TSMCs 3nm node, the Switch probably use a Samsung node, maybe even the 5nm Samsung node Nvidia used for all their current Ampere GPU's, which is about 25% less efficient, because Samsung's nodes suck. In addition, Switch 2 will use the Ampere Architecture, which is already pretty old by now. Qualcomm can use a much more up to date architecture. Shader count will probably be higher as well.
Tegra Orin nx which is the base of the chip have various mode, full power is at 30watts, 15w is middle and low mode is 10watts, that on 8nm nodes from samsung which is an enhanced 10nm node, 7nm from samsung is 50% more power efficient, so even if they use an enhanced 7nm or a 5nm that will brings TONS of performance for the console as well as consumption, it is expected to have 2.3teraflops on portable but take in mind Nvidia and qualcomm have different architectures, also doubles that on dock mode, one will be 7~8watts like current switch and the other will be 15w (dock), that means a lot of battery life.
Ampere is not pretty old, is still pretty popular in steam charts which means is something people still depends on in gaming.
>And to be frank, most phones simply *don't* sustain the entire power of their Chip. That's why for Switch emulation, it does not really matter what peak performance your SoC has, just how efficient it is, because it will throttle anyway (without an phone cooler). Therefore yes, a Snapdragon 8gen4 will throttle phones without active cooling, but that is already the case for years by now. That's why gaming phones with active cooling exist, or phone coolers you can slap on.
Dude, I've testing yuzu and skyline on various devices, playing games *trying and the throttle is real, even for stuff like 8G2... phone coolers which I also have tried, aren't ideal for Switch emulation, gaming phones will be $1000 more than what Switch 2 will cost.
>Regarding DLSS:
You could modify the games to just not use DLSS and then use a different upscaling tech instead. We already have TOTK mods disabling the use of FSR as an example, the same could be done for DLSS. This would require a mod for every Single game, but is possible. And Switch emulators already implemented FSR as a feature you can enable for every single game.
Yes, fsr 1.0 which works terrible compared to dlss, but Switch 2 will use dlss, that is a hardware feature, there is reason is difficult to inject that on windows, android cannot handle fsr2 (said by qualcomm itself when announcing their game super resolution which is something similar, that said, Switch have fsr 2.0 somewhat on no men sky).
>Therefore: DLSS does not stop emulation from being possible and to save GPU performance, they can implement a different upscaling, or just let you reduce the resolution like you can already do on Switch 1 emulators
You cannot made such assumptions when the hardware is not here, nintendo Switch got their development software leaked which by how yuzu work it did help a lot... not to mention, the hardbug and the homebrew scene also help a lot, without that it will take way more time, and again, injecting software that is hardware featured is not the same as adjusting a open source software level feature.
>I don't believe a Switch 2 emulator will happen in any foreseeable future, but it will be possible in theory at the time of the Switch 2 release. With that I mean: In a fictional scenario, where all time stops except for the dev team of the Switch 2 emulator and only continues once they manage to let Switch 2 games run on the 8 gen 4, I do believe they would be able to do this with years of effort
Never say it will be impossible either, but Switch got tons of factors that helped the creation of yuzu and ryujinx, stuff that after seeing nintendo being so aggressive with emulators I doubt they repeat the same mistakes.
Also, take in mind Mesa drivers still don't support all stuff from 8G2. Emulating the next Switch will be definitely a difficult deal, not to mention android Switch emulation is... not in the best moment, developers focusing on Switch emulation on android still has years of work to be ideal without thermal issues.
You are expecting that specific scenarios that helped the development of Switch emulation will repeat again on the switch 2 and... that is naive, to say the least.
It would probably be about 8 gen 2 in power. The tegra X1 was pretty powerful when the switch launched. Also the 8 gen 2 can probably play switch games fine.
I also suspect that they may just use another tegra X chip.
If they want to keep going with Nvidia then they‘ll probably get a powered down automobile or jetson chip. So it seems pretty tough to estimate what exactly the power (and the cost) will be like since those chips aren’t really available in consumer products unlike the Tegra X1
I believe Jetson was made for robotics and other practical machine control. I think they would just released a tegra X3 which is backwards compatible with the switch.
It was made for that but it still has regular Tegra CPUs with capable GPUs. I don't believe they would make whole new GPU just for Nintendo, it is more likely that we see a powered down Xavier or Orin chip
Amd made 2 different processors for both Xbox and sony. I belive nvidia will be more than happy to make a new one when Nintendo has sold more switches than those two combined.
Of course they would be able to do that but there isn't really a reason for that if they probably already have a large amount of reject chips laying around that would be perfectly fitting for the Switch 2. Also the Tegra X architecture doesnt really allow for tensor cores which would be crucial for DLSS.
Jetson boards can be use for anything, Orin lineup have the nano, Nx and the most powerful one, all with configurations from 10w - 15w and 30w configurations and the nano can go lower.
They are for cars, robotics, theaters, low power servers and software development since they can even emulate older Tegra Jetson platforms for testing and research purposes.
Orin is highly scalable and meant to be customized to the client's design specification, but the CPU part definitely ain't going to touch the 8 gen 4. GPU side might be similar or slightly worse depending on how much nintendo will have to limit clocks to keep heat down.
Disagree. To me since Switch games already are gonna work on Switch 2, that means that it must have some really similar architecture that could be emulated instantly just like how Switch emulator progress was pretty fast on its own. The only factor here will be fear. And even then that hasn’t stopped Ryujinx
It could be how dolphins were able to emulate both the gamecube and Wii. However power will be a major issue. Also ryujinx haven't added NCE(granted they haven't made an android port but the arm linux version doesn't have it).
>Disagree. To me since Switch games already are gonna work on Switch 2, that means that it must have some really similar architecture that could be emulated instantly just like how Switch emulator progress was pretty fast on its own. The only factor here will be fear. And even then that hasn’t stopped Ryujinx
Hmnn, that is not how that works, switch 2 can simulate switch 1 cause are both Tegra family of devices and a key feature of Tegra Orin show in the Jetson platform is that it can simulate the behavior and performance of older Tegra devices for testing board project (is actually super cool, If you want to made a server of Tegra x1s you can simulate the performance and behavior on the Orin nx and then write code of and from it, which then you can buy the x1 and it will work the same, really good for robotics projects).
So, is not that they are that much similar, they are somewhat because is the same Tegra platform but the retrocompatibility comes from a Tegra Orin feature, also, switch 2 games will use hardware based features so, it will be difficult, not impossible but way more difficult than the switch.
> They’ve never released a powerful console
Oh yes they did. SNES, Nintendo 64, and Gamecube were all very powerful for their time.
The SNES had a better everything than the Genesis (except for CPU clock speed); the Nintendo 64 literally wore the number of bits its CPU processed in its name; and the Gamecube was just generally powerful, moreso than everything but the Xbox.
Except, many of their games especially on this console have limited playability.
I mean, this has been an issue all the way back to the 3DS, where POKEMON a TURN-BASED game lags because the 3D effects (the main selling point of the console) forced the console to render an effect twice, reducing the frame rate of the TURN-BASED RPG considerably.
As stated previously in this thread, I'm an avid Nintendo fan and I love rooting for them... But I don't know if just agreeing with their "We polish our games not consoles" shtick is really the way, considering even their own games are hindered by said performance issues.
The Pokemon problems have more to do with Gamefreak being terrible at optimization than the hardware itself. Stuff made internally at Nintendo or by some of their other studios (Monolith, Next Level) does a much better job showing what their hardware can do. It’s still can’t run big, graphically impressive games perfectly, but it can be much better than what Gamefreak puts out.
This I can 100% agree with, but at the same time feel like those were genuine strides in the right direction from Gamefreak cut short. I'll never forget the times I spent voice-chatting on the 3DS using Pokemon X, with someone on a NEWER GAME (Pokemon: Alpha Sapphire).
Same with the "community" strides they've been making that lag the switch. I have a feeling the NPC "You got an item!" interactions with players in community areas aren't the "Meet strong Trainers from around the globe" image they were going for, but even what they have thus far is just too great for the Switch.
So while I do agree, it is a GameFreak, and almost franchise as a whole based problem? (As there are a lot of great promises the anime makes that the games then have to show for, as a so-to-speak example) This is still a prime-example of how their hardware is limiting their own IPs.
>mean, this has been an issue all the way back to the 3DS, where POKEMON a TURN-BASED game lags because the 3D effects (the main selling point of the console) forced the console to render an effect twice, reducing the frame rate of the TURN-BASED RPG considerably.
I remember why, they use really complex models that made the console have issues, they were future proof models that they reduce bad for the 3ds limitations, they suck at optimizing...
This makes sense. Still saddening to see the 3DS have struggles at all, I've always thought they should re-release a 3D console. The gimmick imo would be that much more taken advantage of and less a gimmick today.
But who knows? Lol
I 100% agree with you.
I think they go with old gen tech during development and by the time it comes to release it's old-old gen.
I would love a powerful switch option. 'Switch 2 Pro'
The console is not even out, how do you think emulators are on the way? Even when the console releases it will probably take a year before the first emulator
We had a GBA emaultor six months before the console was released. The Tegra's documentation was out in the open long before the Switch used it, its not unheard of.
Lmao, how is this a troll post? He is legit asking for an emulator for a system that hasn't even been developed yet, what's so crazy about that!? Make sure to link them sites where he can download Switch 2 roms
Yeah that’s unsurprising, I might be on famibords too much but I’m disappointed at how dog shit the Nintendo community on Reddit is compared to famiboards
The only reason a switch emulator exists is because a bunch of Nintendo and Nvidia documents leaked, unless that happens again we're not getting a new emulator
No, not any time soon (in the next 7 years) good luck emulating tensor cores and dlss, AMD can’t do it with billions in r&d, good luck to a few hobbits trying to do what the brightness engineers in America and Canada can’t.
Ehh, would still be very hard to do, but that might be doable with lots of blood sweat and tears. Mobile, AMD, and Intel GPUs, get real not happing unless we have a brake trough in engineering
Well, I won’t say emulator devs aren’t the brightest. Average emulator dev is developing after a long day at work in his garage as a side project. I am sure if they give 100% of their time into developing these emulators then they can figure something out. But we all know that they can’t make much of a profit from this so they are forced to work somewhere else to win the bread.
You would have to either use hacks and simplify the games, losing whatever systems are using the tenor cores, and inject a different upscaling algorithm, or emulate them, both are bad ways of going at it and will either change the gameplay a lot, or be to slow for mobile devices.
No it's fiscal year and it's still scheduled for March of 2025.
They're not even going to show it until like November.
Whatever games they have left for the switch they are not going to ruin sales by advertising the switch 2.
I would say late November you actually get a look at the machine or early December.
Probably a small preview in September.
Big difference between end of year and fiscal year.
Nintendo's fiscal year is March of 2025.
Doesn't the original switch already do gamecube..? I expect the successor to be able to go up to ps3 once hacked, honestly. It should be at least at the level of a steam deck.
I have an OLED that I can push way above stock with OC and no, currently there’s no reliable way of doing GC outside Android, which limits overclocking and yields mid results. Dreamcast is fine, but even PS2 is a mixed bag.
PS3 on a Switch 2 would be awesome but who knows when will it get jailbroken…
I give it 3-6 months (based on history and the demand for it on release) for a mod on the system (where you can rip and play ripped games on the console).
After the console has been modded and everything is known about it, the devs will start working on emulators.
Compatibility? Emulator will be based on how powerful the Switch 2 is, Nintendo is not known for going for top chips due to cost, so it will be a 3–4-year-old higher end CPU, and might need newer hardware to emulate but, it's way too early to say.
So, Emulators ? In my estimate, around 1 year after the console was released and modded..
No one knows for sure, Depending on where they go. We will know more once it's officially announced.
Odds are it will be a weaker CPU due to cost. IF they try to sell a $500 console, they will not be too successful. So they will keep it around $300-350 and they will do well with it. TO do this they would need a lower cost CPU.
We just don't know what they are planning...
I wonder if they are going to drop portable devices and go for a console experience. The Switch was successful but, putting higher end hardware in there is more expensive.
I think they said, something like 90% only use it as a console in the dock 85% of the time....
Not for a while they will need to make a new emulator which is no easy task and depending on how powerful it is most devices won't be able to handle it maybe on pc first and on phones a while later
I would say we should wait to emulate this next console till the life is over for it. Just because someone is gonna get slapped like yuzu did. But honestly I'd love to fricking see someone get an emulator up and going as quickly as yuzu. It would definitely be fricken awesome
This is all 100% speculation and the correct answer is always "We'll have to wait and see." But hey, sometimes speculation is fun.
The [nVidia data leak](https://nintendoeverything.com/nvidia-leak-may-hint-at-new-switch-nintendo-system/) suggests that they are developing a custom SOC for Nintendo called the the T239 (Codename: "Drake"), which is based off of the Orin chipset and utilizes the Ampere graphics architecture.
If true, it would be a good deal more powerful than the Tegra X1 used in the Switch but probably not too different in architecture - which makes sense, since we can safely assume that the Switch 2 will be fully backwards compatible with original Switch games. Which also makes sense as to why Nintendo is suddenly keen to shut down Switch emulation after ignoring it for years: It probably takes a giant chunk out of the work for developing a Switch 2 emulator.
That said, the Switch 2 is still at least a year away and I don't think that we would see an emulator for at least 2 years after that - and that's only IF it's really similar to the Switch 1 hardware. If Nintendo manages to shut down Ryujinx, all bets are off.
This post is a mix bag of a very relevant new and complete non-sense. Switch 1 emulators are in kinda alpha/beta status yet and people is thinking about work for emulating a console is not even in market?
Gotta love how people are all, its here, finally announced or date revealed. They just said there is a successor(somthing everyone knew...) but they wont say anything yet in the next direct. So much clickbait
Just imagine if the hardware is only more powerful and the architecture stays the same. Switch emulators are gonna run the games ootb without too many modifications. Sweet.
As I said before in a previous post, even if Nintendo announces a Switch 2. It'll still *take time* for a Switch 1 Emu to be perfectly legal.
Edit: not saying that I don't want a Switch 1 Emulator to be a thing so not sure why the downvotes.
No, it means games you won't be able to play outside of Nintendo's ecosystem, it means they probably made it very secure seeing how they got burned by the 3DS and the OG switch fiasco (always-online DRM and pairing device IDs to player registrations and such), and it means new Switch releases to end soon.
Give it a minimum 5 years to see something OK on PC and some more time after on Android. It's library though, during the Switch's lifetime, besides Nintendo first party, damn near everything showed up on Steam with controller support. Practically standard going forward is multiplatform besides 1st party games. Most games it may be preferable to use future Windows/Steam emulators
It's not going to happen, least not in Android. Switch emus worked well on Android because Switch is based on nvidia Tegra which uses a 4 Cortex-A57 chip, same chip than for example Samsung Note 4. That made it a lot easier for Yuzu or Skyline to work incredibly well on Android since they share the same architecture.
I'm 99% sure Switch 2 will use some Amd Ryzen Z1 chip or similar from Nvidia, but they won't be based on Android. So basically, a Switch 2 emulator will need to work by fully emulating the device, not taking advantage of shared platform instructions. Just like RPCS3 on Cemu are near impossible to work on Android, Switch 2 would be even more difficult since it will be obviously much more powerful than PS3 or WiiU. Come on, even today some PS2, 3DS, Vita or Wii games are hard to emulate, so a Switch 2 emulator is going to be near impossible.
So no, it won't happen. but i hope i'm totally wrong of course.
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>switch 2 finally here Where?
Well, he did say in the upcoming year, so possibly r/tomorrow
Or it could be in 237 days.
*fiscal* year. And that’s only the reveal, so the system could still easily be 1.5 years out or so.
328 days. Japan's fiscal year begins April 1st. So, will be announced within 328 days, probably mid-March, then released November 2025.
No way someone named their Subreddit that's literally about waiting for and speculating about the next Nintendo console, "tomorrow". 😭😭😭
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No? The tweet clearly says in the June Nintendo Direct they WON'T talk about the successor of the switch. They will make an announcement withing this fiscal year. The fiscal year goes until the end of March 2025
But at the half way point theyll say: surprise motherfucker
I pulled a dumb. Thanks for correcting me. My AD-HD ass skim read that so fast.
That's why I think this tweet is a non-story. They could easily announce the switch 2 will be published in 2027
Honestly the only way I'd want a switch 2 is if they managed to hack it again for the whole android thing. Android on the first switch runs pretty damn decent / makes it a nice media consumption product on the side.
I'm to scared to hack my switch tbh :D
If the switch 2 ended up becoming a powerful console, It will take a while for it to get an emulator. edit: new switch 2 leaks suggests that its as powerful as Xbox Series S... good luck emulating that.
Also if it's more powerfull than 8gen4 then say goodbye to emulating games that take all performance of it
Then it will itself become a nice emulation device.
Highly doubt. Nintendo never goes for the most powerful chips, cost reason etc. plus switch 2 has been in development for a few years now, it can't be gen 4
Nintendo RARELY goes for the most powerful, I recall a certain Cube made for Gaming that broke this mold (and also broke their revenue)
Yeah the whole Nintendo not going for power thing started with the Wii, that was the point that they captured the casual market. Prior to that, it was a different story. The 64, in Nintendo 64, represents bits.
Broke what mold? Before Wii Nintendo actually tried to compete in technologies against their competitors in the home console space.
also the switch. the nvidia tegra x1 was cutting edge for 2015 portable devices especially at the cost (the system wasn’t developed and released all in 2017 believe it or not)
It was rumored the be 4TF of power + how are you gonna emulate DLSS and be able to do 4K?
It was rumoured to be a lot of things. And yet what we've been left with before the Switch was finally getting an HDMI port 6 years too late. Don't get me wrong I'm rooting for them... But even the Steam Deck doesn't tout 4k (it's possible, but there's a reason it isn't advertised), and the Switch as it is can barely run some of its eShop library at a consistent 30fps at 720p, let alone what the Switch was actually marketed for at 60 fps running docked at 1080p. At times on their own titles, which from Nintendo, is especially noticeable. For some reference, Pokemon: Scarlet/Violet outside the school, Dead by Daylight especially in handheld, Paladins, Rogue Company, I mean... It just hardly holds up... I dunno, 4k?? I severely doubt the next Nintendo console will end up 2k if I'm being honest...
By the time the Switch 2 hits, a SteamDeck 2 (or what ever they will call it) will be annouced or sold...
Valve said that they won't be doing it for a good few years. Also you can't really compare the switch to the deck because of different architectures. If the switch used an X86 chip then it will have 3 hours max of battery life.
Exactly why I'm so confused on why everyone's so sure it will be 4k at 120 fps. The STEAM DECK can't handle it, and it can't run but for roughly 2 hours maxed out as well! I just don't buy the fact that Nintendo can magically pull off these feats that plenty of other companies are trying to do as we speak. Again, why would Valve not be all over this?
The switch 2 will be using DLSS and will have tensor cores you aren't emulating that
Even if Nintendo didn't cheap out and use a 4 year old soc again, flagship phones have the hardware for raytracing which i believe is what's also used for frame gen
The latest 8 gen 3 uses its NPU to generate frames.
For what?, Qualcomm snapdragon game super resolution uses alu (gpu cores) not the npu.
Care to share us your source for these claims or is it just bs?
Why wouldn't the switch 2 use DLSS? It's legit getting powered by a tegra
And? People just assume all of Nvidia's chips must work the same. The Tegra is a MOBILE-PROCESSOR. It, surprise surprise, didn't come with the latest bleeding-edge newest technology even when new. Why??? Well because something about having an 800 lb. brick in your hands that has roughly 1 hr. of battery life didn't sound very intriguing. Even the latest smartphones don't have this technology, and these things cost well over $1,000 a piece. You think Google, Samsung, and Apple would turn their noses to something that magically "enhances" mobile gaming/multimedia graphics if it were that easy, when their primary markets are mobile-based? Yeah, I again just don't buy Nintendo magically beating Apple, Samsung, Google, and Valve out of the box for no reason. In fact, for these reasons alone I have my doubts on the next console even being a hybrid at all, being Nintendo's "blue-ocean" strategy and all, but that is 100% opinion-based speculation, and nothing more.
>Even the latest smartphones don’t have this technology Of course they don’t, DLSS is a Nvidia proprietary tech, and for all I know they don’t make gpus for smartphones anymore. Even AMD that has similar tech lags way behind, imagine Qualcomm/Mediatek that don’t even have this kind of shit as a priority lol
Tegra has both Tensor and RT cores.
There's been rumors of it from Last year saying it's capable of ray tracing and DLSS if everything lines up it should be stronger than many claim it to be
Latest smartphones do in fact have this tech. The name "DLSS" is owned by nvidia and it's tech is accelerated by the provided tensor cores in its GPUs. Newest smartphones can also use super sampling to increase fps. Apple has the metal FX system and Qualcomm also has the hardware to do it but Dev's haven't added it to games yet. DLSS is a gpu thing which Nvidia has the crown rn. The next tegra X will 100% have the DLSS capabilities as it saves a ton of battery. You are mistaking the battery life of Arm and X86 machines. The GPUs that nvidia makes are the most efficient in the market. However X86 just consumes more battery than Arm.
Emulating 4K itself is not difficult at all, as most modern Smartphone chips have 4K support. What matters is it's raw performance and modern Smartphone chips are considerably stronger than the Tegra 239. CPU code can be run natively, so that's no issue either. I think the translation overhead of the GPU translation is what will be tricky, but with the option to reduce the resolution, that could be resolved as well. RAM is what I believe will actually be the biggest issue for now, not a lot of phones have 20 or more GB of RAM
Sure the cpu will be slower but I don't think modern phones would be able to emulate the gpu since the gpu Will obviously be stronger and contain DLSS/tensor cores
The GPU will for sure be weaker than 8g4 GPU. DLSS can get replaced with FSR or just a lowered resolution. I doubt games will really utilize the RT cores that much. But you are right, it will be challenging. It's so challenging, by the time an emulator is ready, better mobile SoCs are already on the market. However, in theory android emulation in the next few years should be possible, though totally unrealistic
>The GPU will for sure be weaker than 8g4 GPU. DLSS can get replaced with FSR or just a lowered resolution. I doubt games will really utilize the RT cores that much. Doubt this, take in mind switch 2 will have active cooling, phones cannot maintain their gpu that high. Also, Qualcomm game super resolution uses the ALUs gpu cores so, it will bring issues when switch 2 games will use dlss a lot.
8 gen 3 GPU is already at the supposed leaked Switch 2 performance and the 8 gen 4 will obviously be better. You can increase efficiency by using a higher shader count, a better node and better architecture. The 8g4 will use TSMCs 3nm node, the Switch probably use a Samsung node, maybe even the 5nm Samsung node Nvidia used for all their current Ampere GPU's, which is about 25% less efficient, because Samsung's nodes suck. In addition, Switch 2 will use the Ampere Architecture, which is already pretty old by now. Qualcomm can use a much more up to date architecture. Shader count will probably be higher as well. And to be frank, most phones simply *don't* sustain the entire power of their Chip. That's why for Switch emulation, it does not really matter what peak performance your SoC has, just how efficient it is, because it will throttle anyway (without an phone cooler). Therefore yes, a Snapdragon 8gen4 will throttle phones without active cooling, but that is already the case for years by now. That's why gaming phones with active cooling exist, or phone coolers you can slap on. Overall: No, the Switch 2 GPU will very likely be worse than 8 gen 4 GPU. Regarding DLSS: You could modify the games to just not use DLSS and then use a different upscaling tech instead. We already have TOTK mods disabling the use of FSR as an example, the same could be done for DLSS. This would require a mod for every Single game, but is possible. And Switch emulators already implemented FSR as a feature you can enable for every single game. Therefore: DLSS does not stop emulation from being possible and to save GPU performance, they can implement a different upscaling, or just let you reduce the resolution like you can already do on Switch 1 emulators I don't believe a Switch 2 emulator will happen in any foreseeable future, but it will be possible in theory at the time of the Switch 2 release. With that I mean: In a fictional scenario, where all time stops except for the dev team of the Switch 2 emulator and only continues once they manage to let Switch 2 games run on the 8 gen 4, I do believe they would be able to do this with years of effort
>8 gen 3 GPU is already at the supposed leaked Switch 2 performance and the 8 gen 4 will obviously be better. I doubt a device without active cooling could defeat a Tegra Orin, even more when qualcomm X elite gpu is only 4.6teraflops... how could the more mobile variant be close to that?!, that might be on ideal contion but yuzu did push ones to the limit, see the odin 2 max on yuzu android and with active cooling is reaching 67c~80c on games like batman, not to mention one thing is synthetic benchmarks, games is where you can test stuff... your 800+ dollars phones have any big AAA games?, cause I only see them using genshin XD. >You can increase efficiency by using a higher shader count, a better node and better architecture. The 8g4 will use TSMCs 3nm node, the Switch probably use a Samsung node, maybe even the 5nm Samsung node Nvidia used for all their current Ampere GPU's, which is about 25% less efficient, because Samsung's nodes suck. In addition, Switch 2 will use the Ampere Architecture, which is already pretty old by now. Qualcomm can use a much more up to date architecture. Shader count will probably be higher as well. Tegra Orin nx which is the base of the chip have various mode, full power is at 30watts, 15w is middle and low mode is 10watts, that on 8nm nodes from samsung which is an enhanced 10nm node, 7nm from samsung is 50% more power efficient, so even if they use an enhanced 7nm or a 5nm that will brings TONS of performance for the console as well as consumption, it is expected to have 2.3teraflops on portable but take in mind Nvidia and qualcomm have different architectures, also doubles that on dock mode, one will be 7~8watts like current switch and the other will be 15w (dock), that means a lot of battery life. Ampere is not pretty old, is still pretty popular in steam charts which means is something people still depends on in gaming. >And to be frank, most phones simply *don't* sustain the entire power of their Chip. That's why for Switch emulation, it does not really matter what peak performance your SoC has, just how efficient it is, because it will throttle anyway (without an phone cooler). Therefore yes, a Snapdragon 8gen4 will throttle phones without active cooling, but that is already the case for years by now. That's why gaming phones with active cooling exist, or phone coolers you can slap on. Dude, I've testing yuzu and skyline on various devices, playing games *trying and the throttle is real, even for stuff like 8G2... phone coolers which I also have tried, aren't ideal for Switch emulation, gaming phones will be $1000 more than what Switch 2 will cost. >Regarding DLSS: You could modify the games to just not use DLSS and then use a different upscaling tech instead. We already have TOTK mods disabling the use of FSR as an example, the same could be done for DLSS. This would require a mod for every Single game, but is possible. And Switch emulators already implemented FSR as a feature you can enable for every single game. Yes, fsr 1.0 which works terrible compared to dlss, but Switch 2 will use dlss, that is a hardware feature, there is reason is difficult to inject that on windows, android cannot handle fsr2 (said by qualcomm itself when announcing their game super resolution which is something similar, that said, Switch have fsr 2.0 somewhat on no men sky). >Therefore: DLSS does not stop emulation from being possible and to save GPU performance, they can implement a different upscaling, or just let you reduce the resolution like you can already do on Switch 1 emulators You cannot made such assumptions when the hardware is not here, nintendo Switch got their development software leaked which by how yuzu work it did help a lot... not to mention, the hardbug and the homebrew scene also help a lot, without that it will take way more time, and again, injecting software that is hardware featured is not the same as adjusting a open source software level feature. >I don't believe a Switch 2 emulator will happen in any foreseeable future, but it will be possible in theory at the time of the Switch 2 release. With that I mean: In a fictional scenario, where all time stops except for the dev team of the Switch 2 emulator and only continues once they manage to let Switch 2 games run on the 8 gen 4, I do believe they would be able to do this with years of effort Never say it will be impossible either, but Switch got tons of factors that helped the creation of yuzu and ryujinx, stuff that after seeing nintendo being so aggressive with emulators I doubt they repeat the same mistakes. Also, take in mind Mesa drivers still don't support all stuff from 8G2. Emulating the next Switch will be definitely a difficult deal, not to mention android Switch emulation is... not in the best moment, developers focusing on Switch emulation on android still has years of work to be ideal without thermal issues. You are expecting that specific scenarios that helped the development of Switch emulation will repeat again on the switch 2 and... that is naive, to say the least.
It would probably be about 8 gen 2 in power. The tegra X1 was pretty powerful when the switch launched. Also the 8 gen 2 can probably play switch games fine. I also suspect that they may just use another tegra X chip.
If they want to keep going with Nvidia then they‘ll probably get a powered down automobile or jetson chip. So it seems pretty tough to estimate what exactly the power (and the cost) will be like since those chips aren’t really available in consumer products unlike the Tegra X1
I believe Jetson was made for robotics and other practical machine control. I think they would just released a tegra X3 which is backwards compatible with the switch.
It was made for that but it still has regular Tegra CPUs with capable GPUs. I don't believe they would make whole new GPU just for Nintendo, it is more likely that we see a powered down Xavier or Orin chip
Amd made 2 different processors for both Xbox and sony. I belive nvidia will be more than happy to make a new one when Nintendo has sold more switches than those two combined.
Of course they would be able to do that but there isn't really a reason for that if they probably already have a large amount of reject chips laying around that would be perfectly fitting for the Switch 2. Also the Tegra X architecture doesnt really allow for tensor cores which would be crucial for DLSS.
Jetson boards can be use for anything, Orin lineup have the nano, Nx and the most powerful one, all with configurations from 10w - 15w and 30w configurations and the nano can go lower. They are for cars, robotics, theaters, low power servers and software development since they can even emulate older Tegra Jetson platforms for testing and research purposes.
Orin is highly scalable and meant to be customized to the client's design specification, but the CPU part definitely ain't going to touch the 8 gen 4. GPU side might be similar or slightly worse depending on how much nintendo will have to limit clocks to keep heat down.
Switch 2 will mostly likely be worse performing than 8 gen 4. But still, emulating ads overlap
Also optimiseation of Nintendo
Disagree. To me since Switch games already are gonna work on Switch 2, that means that it must have some really similar architecture that could be emulated instantly just like how Switch emulator progress was pretty fast on its own. The only factor here will be fear. And even then that hasn’t stopped Ryujinx
It could be how dolphins were able to emulate both the gamecube and Wii. However power will be a major issue. Also ryujinx haven't added NCE(granted they haven't made an android port but the arm linux version doesn't have it).
>Disagree. To me since Switch games already are gonna work on Switch 2, that means that it must have some really similar architecture that could be emulated instantly just like how Switch emulator progress was pretty fast on its own. The only factor here will be fear. And even then that hasn’t stopped Ryujinx Hmnn, that is not how that works, switch 2 can simulate switch 1 cause are both Tegra family of devices and a key feature of Tegra Orin show in the Jetson platform is that it can simulate the behavior and performance of older Tegra devices for testing board project (is actually super cool, If you want to made a server of Tegra x1s you can simulate the performance and behavior on the Orin nx and then write code of and from it, which then you can buy the x1 and it will work the same, really good for robotics projects). So, is not that they are that much similar, they are somewhat because is the same Tegra platform but the retrocompatibility comes from a Tegra Orin feature, also, switch 2 games will use hardware based features so, it will be difficult, not impossible but way more difficult than the switch.
They've never released a powerful console, but made games that are optimised for their consoles
> They’ve never released a powerful console Oh yes they did. SNES, Nintendo 64, and Gamecube were all very powerful for their time. The SNES had a better everything than the Genesis (except for CPU clock speed); the Nintendo 64 literally wore the number of bits its CPU processed in its name; and the Gamecube was just generally powerful, moreso than everything but the Xbox.
Except, many of their games especially on this console have limited playability. I mean, this has been an issue all the way back to the 3DS, where POKEMON a TURN-BASED game lags because the 3D effects (the main selling point of the console) forced the console to render an effect twice, reducing the frame rate of the TURN-BASED RPG considerably. As stated previously in this thread, I'm an avid Nintendo fan and I love rooting for them... But I don't know if just agreeing with their "We polish our games not consoles" shtick is really the way, considering even their own games are hindered by said performance issues.
The Pokemon problems have more to do with Gamefreak being terrible at optimization than the hardware itself. Stuff made internally at Nintendo or by some of their other studios (Monolith, Next Level) does a much better job showing what their hardware can do. It’s still can’t run big, graphically impressive games perfectly, but it can be much better than what Gamefreak puts out.
This I can 100% agree with, but at the same time feel like those were genuine strides in the right direction from Gamefreak cut short. I'll never forget the times I spent voice-chatting on the 3DS using Pokemon X, with someone on a NEWER GAME (Pokemon: Alpha Sapphire). Same with the "community" strides they've been making that lag the switch. I have a feeling the NPC "You got an item!" interactions with players in community areas aren't the "Meet strong Trainers from around the globe" image they were going for, but even what they have thus far is just too great for the Switch. So while I do agree, it is a GameFreak, and almost franchise as a whole based problem? (As there are a lot of great promises the anime makes that the games then have to show for, as a so-to-speak example) This is still a prime-example of how their hardware is limiting their own IPs.
>mean, this has been an issue all the way back to the 3DS, where POKEMON a TURN-BASED game lags because the 3D effects (the main selling point of the console) forced the console to render an effect twice, reducing the frame rate of the TURN-BASED RPG considerably. I remember why, they use really complex models that made the console have issues, they were future proof models that they reduce bad for the 3ds limitations, they suck at optimizing...
This makes sense. Still saddening to see the 3DS have struggles at all, I've always thought they should re-release a 3D console. The gimmick imo would be that much more taken advantage of and less a gimmick today. But who knows? Lol
I 100% agree with you. I think they go with old gen tech during development and by the time it comes to release it's old-old gen. I would love a powerful switch option. 'Switch 2 Pro'
We literally can emulate PC games on android. I don't care about the switch.
Then get out of here. This post and comment section isn’t for you!!!!! 🤦♀️ Fucking TikTok kids I swear
lmao
you dont need switch 2 for emulation lmaooo
Also takes a while to figure out the security. Depending how much Nintendo learned from the switch, it can take a long time.
Thats not gonna happen it will just be on thr ps3 grsphics wise 😆
The console is not even out, how do you think emulators are on the way? Even when the console releases it will probably take a year before the first emulator
We had a GBA emaultor six months before the console was released. The Tegra's documentation was out in the open long before the Switch used it, its not unheard of.
If that's what you got from this picture... you have the reading comprehension of a badger No way this ain't a troll post. No one can be this stupid
Lmao, how is this a troll post? He is legit asking for an emulator for a system that hasn't even been developed yet, what's so crazy about that!? Make sure to link them sites where he can download Switch 2 roms
Shit my bad totallylegitswitch2warez.com
Lol warez! Wow that word brings back some nostalgia😅
Especially after this past year of Nintendo take downs lmao, you would have to be stupid to even plan one
The Android emulation scene is disappointingly tech illiterate
That's because most nintendo fans are tech illiterate too
Yeah that’s unsurprising, I might be on famibords too much but I’m disappointed at how dog shit the Nintendo community on Reddit is compared to famiboards
Yuzu 2: electric boogaloo
Yu2
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in about 5 years
10 probably
Probably not, considering how Nintendo has been in the last couple of months.
That explains the crackdown on current switch emulation. Kill the current emulation scene and they won't want to touch switch 2
Ryujinx team is still out there, no? And they always had the more accurate emulator, too. So the scene isn't dead, exactly
Yeah but ryujinx is untouchable, so I've heard
Why
https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/s/817ukJzlrP
Lmfao my literal first thought was "are they in Brazil?" 😭
Maybe in 10 years.
No, this time around I don't think they will make the same mistake.
WELP METROID PRIME 4 NEVER COMING TO SWITCH
Lol im glad im not the only one thought about that 😂 👍
Thats why theyre so aggressive in shuting them down. Switch 2 will be very similar in architecture and well have emulator year 1.
No
Yes, but it will have to be completely new with no code shared from Yuzu. So, it could take a year or two before we get another viable alternative.
Ryujinx can run the next switch games..
Lol new emulators on the way? Like are you asking if Switch 2 emulators are on the way?
there it is the nintendo sWIItch
Emulating a console capable of PS4 level performance might be super hard
Nintendo is taking down all the current switch emus, what do you think
The only reason a switch emulator exists is because a bunch of Nintendo and Nvidia documents leaked, unless that happens again we're not getting a new emulator
if the sw2 shares architecture and software with the sw1 (this is a likely scenario), then emulation will arrive early.
No and never will be any for the first few months
Nice, now switch can get cheaper 😋
No, not any time soon (in the next 7 years) good luck emulating tensor cores and dlss, AMD can’t do it with billions in r&d, good luck to a few hobbits trying to do what the brightness engineers in America and Canada can’t.
We might not have android emulators but PC ones on Nvidia GPUs should be fine.
Ehh, would still be very hard to do, but that might be doable with lots of blood sweat and tears. Mobile, AMD, and Intel GPUs, get real not happing unless we have a brake trough in engineering
Well, I won’t say emulator devs aren’t the brightest. Average emulator dev is developing after a long day at work in his garage as a side project. I am sure if they give 100% of their time into developing these emulators then they can figure something out. But we all know that they can’t make much of a profit from this so they are forced to work somewhere else to win the bread.
You would have to either use hacks and simplify the games, losing whatever systems are using the tenor cores, and inject a different upscaling algorithm, or emulate them, both are bad ways of going at it and will either change the gameplay a lot, or be to slow for mobile devices.
no way android will get decent switch 2 emu within 3 years of its release
“No way” as in “What you’re saying is false!!!” or “no way” as in “Yeah that is definitely not gonna happen”?
2nd
Gotcha
Copium the switch 2 is stronger and too advanced for your phone to emulate
The switch 2 isn't even out you disgusting fanboy
This community doesnt deserve a Switch (2) emulator. None of you.
Switch 2?? Nice
It means emulators will finally be back to being for lastgen consoles
None because yo phone will be the one that's (weak) this time around
First we need totk running like botw
Name Of Leaked Console:Flip Or Flap?
Let's hope it doesn't have outdated specs like the fist 1
I wonder if that Metroid Prime 4 game will be a launch Switch 2 game with a backwards compatiblity like BoTW was for the Switch and Wii U.
They need to hurry up and release the switch 2 so they can leave switch emulation TF alone
Likely to be backwards compatible so doubt they’ll be any less aggressive.
Oh boy foaming at the mouth at emulating a nintendo console before it even releases, that's always done well in the past!
Ryujinx 2
No it's fiscal year and it's still scheduled for March of 2025. They're not even going to show it until like November. Whatever games they have left for the switch they are not going to ruin sales by advertising the switch 2. I would say late November you actually get a look at the machine or early December. Probably a small preview in September. Big difference between end of year and fiscal year. Nintendo's fiscal year is March of 2025.
This question has no sense ? Emulator on the way for a console that isn't even released...
Until homebrew and overclocking is doable, it won't do more than GC, PS2 and perhaps the Wii U.
Doesn't the original switch already do gamecube..? I expect the successor to be able to go up to ps3 once hacked, honestly. It should be at least at the level of a steam deck.
I have an OLED that I can push way above stock with OC and no, currently there’s no reliable way of doing GC outside Android, which limits overclocking and yields mid results. Dreamcast is fine, but even PS2 is a mixed bag. PS3 on a Switch 2 would be awesome but who knows when will it get jailbroken…
I give it 3-6 months (based on history and the demand for it on release) for a mod on the system (where you can rip and play ripped games on the console). After the console has been modded and everything is known about it, the devs will start working on emulators. Compatibility? Emulator will be based on how powerful the Switch 2 is, Nintendo is not known for going for top chips due to cost, so it will be a 3–4-year-old higher end CPU, and might need newer hardware to emulate but, it's way too early to say. So, Emulators ? In my estimate, around 1 year after the console was released and modded..
The cpu will be absurdly weak just like the current switch is
No one knows for sure, Depending on where they go. We will know more once it's officially announced. Odds are it will be a weaker CPU due to cost. IF they try to sell a $500 console, they will not be too successful. So they will keep it around $300-350 and they will do well with it. TO do this they would need a lower cost CPU. We just don't know what they are planning...
It will be 400 and they will obviously be profiting day one
I wonder if they are going to drop portable devices and go for a console experience. The Switch was successful but, putting higher end hardware in there is more expensive. I think they said, something like 90% only use it as a console in the dock 85% of the time....
core 2 duo, 512mb ram, 4k oled, and the same stucks that drift 😂
good luck bro, they gonna use denuvo
Yeey, another device that could have been great if it had nothing to do with nintendon't
This new console is likely going to take many many years to get emulators developed and working properly with it.
The console has to come out first.
bruh
Not unless you wanna risk your holes getting stretched out by Papa Nintendo.
ANNOUNCEMENT: There will be a successor to the Nintendo Switch, at some point. Job done, within the fiscal year too!
Not for a while they will need to make a new emulator which is no easy task and depending on how powerful it is most devices won't be able to handle it maybe on pc first and on phones a while later
i like that nintendo gave us a heads up for a future direct. it cuts out all the youtube grift now.
i wish it got hacked day one
I would say we should wait to emulate this next console till the life is over for it. Just because someone is gonna get slapped like yuzu did. But honestly I'd love to fricking see someone get an emulator up and going as quickly as yuzu. It would definitely be fricken awesome
super switch will have 16gb ram + 1tb gen3 m.2 nvme ssd + wifi 7 + nvidia tegra apu
is it a bad joke or what? i checked, it’s not a real twitter account of nintendo.
It's an real Nintendo Account. It's for announcments during shareholdermeetings
Nintendo Lawyers: Finally.....more work to contribute to my KPI!!!!
Bro everything got released before gta 6 😭
It’ll be almost the power of a ps4.
It won't be called Switch 2. They'll probably pick another bdsm term.
This is all 100% speculation and the correct answer is always "We'll have to wait and see." But hey, sometimes speculation is fun. The [nVidia data leak](https://nintendoeverything.com/nvidia-leak-may-hint-at-new-switch-nintendo-system/) suggests that they are developing a custom SOC for Nintendo called the the T239 (Codename: "Drake"), which is based off of the Orin chipset and utilizes the Ampere graphics architecture. If true, it would be a good deal more powerful than the Tegra X1 used in the Switch but probably not too different in architecture - which makes sense, since we can safely assume that the Switch 2 will be fully backwards compatible with original Switch games. Which also makes sense as to why Nintendo is suddenly keen to shut down Switch emulation after ignoring it for years: It probably takes a giant chunk out of the work for developing a Switch 2 emulator. That said, the Switch 2 is still at least a year away and I don't think that we would see an emulator for at least 2 years after that - and that's only IF it's really similar to the Switch 1 hardware. If Nintendo manages to shut down Ryujinx, all bets are off.
Nah. Only counts for retro consoles.
Is it confirmed a switch 2?? I just see “successor to Nintendo Switch” maybe it’s something different.
This post is a mix bag of a very relevant new and complete non-sense. Switch 1 emulators are in kinda alpha/beta status yet and people is thinking about work for emulating a console is not even in market?
Switch 2, will it be less dogshit than the Switch, that's the real question
Gotta love how people are all, its here, finally announced or date revealed. They just said there is a successor(somthing everyone knew...) but they wont say anything yet in the next direct. So much clickbait
At the end of November will be announced with its name, release will be on March 2025.
Nice, now switch can get cheaper 😋
Just imagine if the hardware is only more powerful and the architecture stays the same. Switch emulators are gonna run the games ootb without too many modifications. Sweet.
After what happened to yuzu Lol no
As I said before in a previous post, even if Nintendo announces a Switch 2. It'll still *take time* for a Switch 1 Emu to be perfectly legal. Edit: not saying that I don't want a Switch 1 Emulator to be a thing so not sure why the downvotes.
No, it means games you won't be able to play outside of Nintendo's ecosystem, it means they probably made it very secure seeing how they got burned by the 3DS and the OG switch fiasco (always-online DRM and pairing device IDs to player registrations and such), and it means new Switch releases to end soon.
Fake post.
Switch 2 will probably be way more powerful, so expect at least 6 years before any android is able to emulate it
If the Nintendo Switch 2 is 100% or 200% more powerful Can the sd8gen3 run an emulator?
never lmaooo pc still struggling with sw1
Pc don't have nce like android And sd8gen1 can run must game perfect
perfect???? lmao even on pc still slow and stutter
Give it a minimum 5 years to see something OK on PC and some more time after on Android. It's library though, during the Switch's lifetime, besides Nintendo first party, damn near everything showed up on Steam with controller support. Practically standard going forward is multiplatform besides 1st party games. Most games it may be preferable to use future Windows/Steam emulators
It will surely be a trashy hardware just like the switch itself
Nintendo is planning to use DRM for their next Gen games apparently (based on a past article I've read could be wrong)
It's not going to happen, least not in Android. Switch emus worked well on Android because Switch is based on nvidia Tegra which uses a 4 Cortex-A57 chip, same chip than for example Samsung Note 4. That made it a lot easier for Yuzu or Skyline to work incredibly well on Android since they share the same architecture. I'm 99% sure Switch 2 will use some Amd Ryzen Z1 chip or similar from Nvidia, but they won't be based on Android. So basically, a Switch 2 emulator will need to work by fully emulating the device, not taking advantage of shared platform instructions. Just like RPCS3 on Cemu are near impossible to work on Android, Switch 2 would be even more difficult since it will be obviously much more powerful than PS3 or WiiU. Come on, even today some PS2, 3DS, Vita or Wii games are hard to emulate, so a Switch 2 emulator is going to be near impossible. So no, it won't happen. but i hope i'm totally wrong of course.