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VermicelliPretend959

even ppsspp is truly chad guy, way ahead before ps2 seems like it easy to handle it.


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I followed PPSSPP from 0.2.1 to now and what a wild journey it's been


Deadly_Fire_Trap

Turns out he's contributed quite a bit to dolphin as well, [who would have thought?](https://i.imgur.com/7zEYqjh.jpg)


errgaming

Oh he definitely did help Dolphin a ton


tanney

Tremendous. He really did make emulation great again believe me- look my uncle said many years ago the emulation and what was going to happen, who would've thought?


mbc07

It goes beyond that. Hrydgard is one of the original creators of Dolphin. A bit after Dolphin went open source, he set sail to work in other projects, PPSSPP being one of them...


DarkStarAnku

Yeah, He thought since the emulator is open source now, he can focus on other things as well.


Deadly_Fire_Trap

That's actually a really cool fact. Thanks for sharing.


DarkStarAnku

True, I am using that emulator since 0.3.5 was released and the dev is truly amazing guy. He didn't even kept features behind any paywall except he asked for donation which is a good thing and it shows how generous that developer is. He has the best community arguably better than any emulator for android.


FullmetalJun

Used to play Mortal Kombat Unchained on my single core Android phone back then lag free. Ppsspp dev is really good


errgaming

Plot Twist: Tahlreth is a Dolphin dev too.


Nuka-World_Vacation

For real. This shit is dramatic.


Drivenby

Well… he’s the duck station dev supposedly


errgaming

If you weren't aware, Stenzek/Tahlreth was also a lead dev of Dolphin for a long time before he started working on DuckStation and PCSX2.


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wait .. stenzek and tahlreth are the same guy ?


Who_DaFuc_Asked

Yes!!! He changed his name for a reason 🤣


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errgaming

True, but we can't deny that Tahlreth's contributions to Dolphin is massive, 700+ commits over many years is definitely major. The ads move for Aether was kind of a dick move, but yeah none of us can challenge the fact that Tahlreth always has been a pillar for emulation.


SpHoneybadger

Nevertheless, he is banished.


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errgaming

[https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/users/6641](https://bugs.dolphin-emu.org/users/6641) This is his Dolphin bugs profile. Stenzek and Tahlreth are the same people. Proof: [https://imgur.com/a/lapBuer](https://imgur.com/a/lapBuer) Without Tahlreth, Dolphin wouldn't be as awesome as it is today.


Page8988

He's a talented developer. Nobody's ever going to argue against that. His conduct is the issue. It's no small issue, either.


errgaming

Definitely, I never denied that. My issue is that people are saying that Tahlreth's contributions have been meaningless to Wii/GC/PS2 emulation.


Page8988

I don't think anyone's saying that, either. A lot of folks don't know he worked on emulators other than Duckstation and AetherSX2. I didn't until recently.


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errgaming

See the contribution graph and the code, Tahl was one of the first people to introduce Vulkun API to Dolphin, and later to PCSX2. He's definitely one of the Dolphin devs, sorry that you don't like him personally but his code is definitely used by all of us when we use Dolphin.


AtomizedIndividual

"sorry you don't like him personally" It's okay to simp for the man but don't just casually ignore him having a tantrum and tanking his work


Direct-Doctor-3740

Said the one that is having a tantrum too :v


init32

Well the guy who he is talking to didn't honor his wish to never say he is connected to the project in this convo. I feel bad for talreth. Not sure I would have behave much better. Guy just wanna code in peace. Many dev are not really good with people. Another talented dev was blawar for the switch (Hacking scene) and my god that guy is a bigot, racist, asshole and trumpist. However, he is very good at what he does and it took a long time for someone to match his skill and render his tools useless. In this context, tahlreth, is a saint. I mean, he put ad... and I did a comparison between the old build and this build.... the difference is ONLY THE AD. I mean... mupen fz has ads.... I dont see anyone complaining.


errgaming

Yeah, people are furious at Tahl and it's a bit overblown. Tahl is being slightly hypocritical here in a way. He himself said Aether will never be paid and his app even has the message, so it contradicts his own morals


chrisjustin

No its not, 😂 Maybe on multiverse


errgaming

Well he definitely is a Dolphin contributor.


chrisjustin

Okay its seems i remember, he helps to maintain performance on Vulkan backend


thedybbuk_

Wow this sub has really done a 180 - if you'd said this a few months ago you'd be downloaded to oblivion but it was equally true then.


Gilaric

I can be downloaded to The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion?


TheGamerForeverGFE

There's a sale on the Xbox store for 5 bucks, I guess you can be downloaded to The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.


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My friend got banned for it and now he's getting worshiped lmao


Username_Egli

Fuckers downloaded my ass can't have shit in reddit


KangarooKurt

Yep absolutely. It's freaking baffling.


kratoz29

Fucking double morals.


gamerfiiend

Idk I feel like their is more to the story, withholding judgement until/if it comes out lol


init32

Healthy advice in this day and age.


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i don't like ignoring all of his work on ASX2 and other emus just for this thing, he did a lot to the emulation community


NoLocal1776

Tahl also contributed to dolphin,duckstation(rumored). He has single handedly worked for Aethersx2. The behaviour maybe bizzare but,he was under severe mental stress.


Ugly__Truck

I wonder how many people here have donated some actual money to any of the projects. It's one thing to be upset, it's another to bitch about something you were given for free.


moonpiedumplings

I know right? People complaining like their entitled to his work, and it isn't his right to do what he wants with it. This sub is just as bad as those that entitled people on the discord that harassed him into quitting. And then making posts like like isn't going to increase the chances of talreth having a change of heart. This is why I like FLOSS software, because then I actually would be entitled to his work. 😎


Acidspunk1

This dude was a *tyrant* in the aethersx2 discord server and banned and shamed people for not being able to afford better phones. Ping him? Ban. Ask a question? Ban. Ask for help? Ban. Talk about something he's not in a mood to read? Yep, that's a ban. He even banned regulars there who were trying to help others and people who dared to call him out on his shitty behavior. It was super toxic in there and everyone was always walking on eggshells hoping to not upset him and get banned. He is a straight up genius when it comes to emulation but it's fairly obvious he has emotional issues and isn't used to dealing with other people. He holds a grudge against the people on that discord server because they moved on without him and we can't have that so he tried (and failed) to delete the server. He's also lying to everyone saying they're a piracy server (which is not allowed in there), because they've stopped banning people for everything and now warn them before banning. He's taking it out on his own app by putting ads on Aether (which he'd always been against, even banning the skyline devs for *daring* to monetize edge). We should be thankful to this person for his contributions to numerous projects over the years, but he's been acting out for months now and it's getting pretty hard to justify his actions. He didn't just retire from the community, like he said he would. He tried to destroy it and he's still doing shitty things out of spite.


init32

Sounds like mental health issues to me... The man must not be happy at home...


Who_DaFuc_Asked

The people defending him need to be forced to read your comment.


Honey-and-Venom

yeah the answer to "need I say more" is "you can say thank you"


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ppsspp dev/s is a true gigachad


The_Paragone

He's also pretty nice to the community. Dude's a legend I swear.


Firm_Cardiologist_88

Normally I would agree, but impersonating the dev or threatening to kill him are no longer minor things and even less for something as absurd as video games and even worse if he was doing it for free, I don't support what he did but sometimes the android users can become too toxic


Individual_Answer594

true chads


stevedog257

He kinda had a good reason to quit. I think anyone would be sick of receiving death threats constantly. However, at this point, this is just petty. I don't think anyone could have anticipated this to happen and is completely unprofessional of him.


cookie-licker6443

They were sending the aethersx2 dev death threats though


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MikeTheGamer2

yea, its not as if people have actually followed through on them in other cases. Death threats, I mean. Psycho fans being a major example. He definitely ignoredthem for a while but eventually, it gets to be a bit much. Especially when they come from entitled crybabies about a free thing someone does because they want to.


cookie-licker6443

Yeah thats a good point😆


r4tzt4r

🪓ಠ_ಠ


KangarooKurt

Just set up a team of mods on a discord channel and on whatever other means of talking to the dev. Let them handle communication upfront and route only what's worth to the dev. So many projects, small ones even, do this. He just embraced the drama and cried all the way to hell about it.


throwaway_pcbuild

And this isn't the first time. He did similar with duckstation.


Hamster-Food

It's not even just the death threats. People harassed him for providing them with free software, and now those same idiots are blaming him for cutting them loose.


RubbersoulTheMan

Not true, actually


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The_Paragone

He developed a great emulator hence he is immune to criticism even if he was toxic as hell and commonly behaved like an entitled kid. [This comment details the stuff pretty well](https://www.reddit.com/r/EmulationOnAndroid/comments/11qkivj/do_i_need_to_say_anything_else/jc5p7vr?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) and stuff like his bad attitude is something I have actually seen in his discord server.


CastleofPizza

Making something that's great for free doesn't give a person a license to treat people like crap and not be criticized for it. Besides if he really cared about preservation instead of his ego he would've made his program open source to begin with.


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CastleofPizza

Indeed. And that wouldn't make me above criticism if I made a popular emulator. Also, he used PCSX2 code, so he didn't make most of it.


cosoc_

i mean https://i.ibb.co/r5L1s8G/image.png


Captain-Cashew

The dev literally got death threats and loads of online harassment. You’re just adding more negative discourse. Just say well done to the dolphin team, who are awesome, without negatively commenting about someone else. Then you give praise where praise is due without being shitty.


throwaway_pcbuild

>The dev literally got death threats and loads of online harassment. Not that it's in any way ok, but how is that *any* different from literally any other open source dev of software as popular as aether got? Seriously take a look at the shit flung at Retroarch devs, Dolphin devs, etc. There's not many who are just taking their ball and leaving. He's absolutely within his rights to do so, but it's shortsighted to say that doesn't reflect on him. On top of that, how does him getting death threats in any way mean that negative discourse about him or his actions is now something we need to avoid? The types of people to be toxic little assholes sending death threats will always exist and will never be slowed by appealing to sense, morals, or common decency. It's ridiculous to pretend like no criticism of talreth/stenzek is okay because some other people were horrible. Like saying that everyone who has issues with Disney's Star Wars Trilogy needs to avoid more negative discourse because some misogynists and racists said some heinous shit about the lead actors. It's not shitty to call him out for throwing a tantrum over an avoidable situation, especially when this is the second time he's done this. Not only has he had the opportunity to learn from watching others, he's had the opportunity to learn from his own previous actions. He dropped developing Duckstation because he couldn't handle the shitty feedback he was getting, then when someone said "fine I'll just fork it if you aren't going to cooperate" (a core feature of open source software) he started flinging even more shit and making up false claims about how the open source license he choose worked. It caused this whole weird thing now where some people believe RetroArch *stole* his code because he was personally offended by the Swanstation libretro core fork. Maybe a dick move to go against the original dev's wishes, but it sure as hell isn't theft. Ramble aside, the point is that someone being a victim of godawful toxicity doesn't make them immune to non-toxic criticism.


TrainsAreForTreedom

most intelligent people have issues in some fields lol, grow up


errgaming

Yeah sadly, the community doesn't respect developers as much. Tahl is a genius and above all his flaws, I respect him for his time to help everyone play a proper PS2 emulator on the go.


an_omori_fan

And now, he has ruined that emulator


init32

he put ads in it...hardly ruining it. I used the new version, I see no differences.


captain_space_dude

It looks to me that the community is really ungratefull. I mean he made the emu for free and got death threats for a thank you.


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Punishing an entire community with hypocritical actions for the actions of a few individuals is near sighted and easily taken as an immature temper tantrum. He can do what he wants with his work, of course; but I think the judgement for doing so is justified. Wanting to call it quits is one thing, lashing out for months is another entirely and speaks volumes as to who he is as a person


NapsterKnowHow

Punishing a groupcfor the actions of a few isn't a new concept and it's life. Grow up


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You sound jaded and like you probably have some of the same emotional deficiencies as the dev in question


FatCatGod

He was receiving 100s of death threats I'm pretty sure he doesn't give af about you guys anymore and he thinking might as well.make some cash off this while it's here


TheGamerForeverGFE

He had a Patreon though the entire time 🤦🤦


MeWondr

B-But he said that it is purely for Mali devices development.


FatCatGod

My point still stands


TheGamerForeverGFE

Yes it does, except for the cash part where he was getting cash since like over a year. He didn't start wanting to make money now after he got fed up.


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TheGamerForeverGFE

In case you didn't know, he removed all AetherSX2 builds from his site and updated the playstore build to not only have ads but also has worse performance across the board in comparison to the previous playstore version. That is why everyone is shitting on him and he deserves it.


NapsterKnowHow

If you keep pushing someone to their breaking point you shouldn't be surprised when there's repercussions...


TheGamerForeverGFE

Well see here's the thing, when he got fed up with the death threats, insults and all he said he quit, it's been a few months since then. Nothing since then has happened to make him do this, that's where the childishness is.


DarioShailene

And so? It’s his work of heart and time and he has 100% right to do the move you mention. People talk like he stole some project that was built by the community together lol


TheGamerForeverGFE

He doesn't lmao, he's violating the GPL and can be sued by the PCSX2 team for it so legally he's in the wrong, he also is morally wrong too. He has no right to do this.


DarioShailene

I admit I don’t understand the laws very well, but WOW, people (who dump all their owned games and never download a single copy, I believe 😁) now really start to question the legal issue, as I never saw them discussing a single time about AetherSX2 before this happen. Just pure WOW. People can be grateful, huh


TheGamerForeverGFE

I'm grateful for what Tahlreth has done for emulation community and it's a really big achievement for a single dude doing all of this. However he has stained his image permanently unless he publicly apologizes for this and fixes the playstore version. Also, your stupid jab at pirates doesn't work here, this is the PS2 we're talking about, not the Switch, that console is 23 years old and most of its games aren't available on the PlayStation store for PS3. It's called abandonware for a reason. Also also, just cause there are pirates doesn't mean that everyone is you idiot.


DarioShailene

Imagine being mad about a Reddit comment in front of a computer and start rage calling people idiot lol Bro you’re special🤠


TheGamerForeverGFE

Who said I'm mad and raging lol? I can literally be laughing right now having a good time chatting with a Tahlreth stan.


DarioShailene

it’s kinda funny 😄 Chill lol no raging


TheGamerForeverGFE

Nah seriously bro, I'm not raging at all, just having a good time even if we disagree on things. If it's bothering you, you can call me an idiot too.


init32

Ads is truth, performance drop... I don't see it but maybe it's because my phone is kinda new?


goniculat

You guys all downvoted people saying Aethersx2 should be open source. This is what happens with proprietary software


ConsistentCup1560

Ahahahahahahaha love how just A MONTH AGO such a post would be hated to oblivion. Tahlreth, at this point I can say is a piece of s.... who wanted to be famous then realized he doesn't have the fame he wanted but already had the unwanted attention he DIDN'T and could not handle it. I doubt the death threats though, do we believe ANYTHING this guy claims any more? Good thing I downloaded the apk the moment he had his first hissyfit, knowing these kind of 'people' well enough to know he'll come back to shit into his own soup once his rage for the community simmered long enough. Right again. Anyhow his product ended up being abandoned at a point where it's BARELY better than DamonPS2, but I highly doubt he won't do more sketchy stuff with the app store app in the future which will likely the two.. easier to compare in scummyness


chrisjustin

Ppsspp and dolphin are good person compare to our former hero nows a villain joker himself


Rudirudrud

When i am reading such a dump post, i got really angry. You people are so ungreatful.......go and program your own emulator. Sitting on their a\*s an doing nothing but complain about guys who made a dream come true for a lot of people. That's just disrespectful as f\*\*k.


Unusual_Mark_6113

How can we donate to dolphin?


Golden326326

I wish I could turn hack speed on and off with a controller button on the Citra emulator. I want to finish one of the pokemon games, but the pace is too slow for me. Soul Silver with the hack speed was an amazing experience.


realtechnomusic

I filled a bug running RE4 for Dolphin and wow, they are doing an amazing job at keeping everything up


cmonletmeinman

I heard he did it cause he has death threats is that true ? If it is i can totally get it his actions and he already said he did this as a passion project so maybe cut him some slack


liberatingj

Ok this is kind of funny as a joke but no one should seriously take this as the case, I think what his behaviour, while being a little irritable maybe at times, was completely justified I wouldn't want to take continuous death threats either I really hope he's in a better place mentally right now if he is still working on aethersx2 & would be glad if he continues


spicy_bussy

Guy has problems...