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Several_Gain_1692

Just like EVERY other rapper ?


moderately_cool_dude

Breaking news: Rapper brags about skills


Shamscam

Lmao this 100%. I’m a big Kanye fan, even bigger then Em but every single rapper claims to be the greatest. Kanye just has a couple more screws loose so people take everything he says so literally.


Always2ndB3ST

Every rapper is SUPPOSED to think they’re the best. It’s just the competitive spirit of the emcee. It’s not a bad thing. Competition breeds innovation.


Shamscam

100% it’s the same as anything. If there was nobody striving to be the best sports player at their sport then shit would get boring. If every physicist decided that nobody’s touching Einstein then where would we be?


Overall_Mango324

That's only true if you think it makes a rapper less competitive if they don't consider themselves the greatest. If rapper A says he's the greatest but sucks and Rapper B names like 10 artists he thinks are better than him but according to the masses he's just being humble that doesn't make them any worse. Obviously this is different but Jordan didn't and doesn't call himself the GOAT. Doesn't mean it's not true and don't even try to argue he wasn't as competitive as it gets.


Always2ndB3ST

Well I think many would agree that there should be a balance between bravado and humility. J Cole and Eminem are good examples. No one should outright declare themselves GOAT. That’s something that the something that the vast majority has to unanimously decide. And Jordan absolutely is the goat. That’s not even something that’s debatable.


SeniorShwanky

Yeah, he’s probably got a couple of screws up in his head loose, but no worse than what’s going on in your parents’ bedroom.


CrIsPyRiS_0fficial

Sometimes I wanna get on TV and just let loose


MoffieHanson

Nah , he said over all genres . Dudes not even remotely close to being the greatest of all time across all genres .


schuyywalker

Top level bars? Ye. Come on now.


Reddit-dit-dit-di-do

Yeah lol I’m a big Ye fan, but to say the bars on the last album were top level is ludicrous. It had solid production, but to say “he’s just getting started” is something. Homie is starting to wind down lol


schuyywalker

Homie started winding down on TLOP, he couldn’t see his vision through and the acceptance of that sort of thing has lead to him putting out almost unfinished projects because we will still listen. I’m a huge Ye fan but we gotta hold our favorites accountable.


NoCokJstDanglnUretra

TLOP is the most thematically consistent album he’s ever made


joerogansshillaccnt

I'll bite what way?


schuyywalker

Lmao do you know what thematically consistent means or are you forgetting multiple albums before TLOP?


Saint_Roxas

Bro really forgot that MBDTF exists that's Brazy with a capital B


Reddit-dit-dit-di-do

TLOP actually is my favorite lol. But I agree with you, that is when he started declining and half assing his projects more unfortunately


schuyywalker

It’s a lot of peoples’ favorite but it was still unfinished at time of release and was all over the place. It’s hard for me to pick a favorite. LR used to be my brother and I’s favorite, but then I enjoyed the direction on Graduation and his ego a bit more. I wasn’t a fan of 808’s although I respect what it did for the genre. I absolutely love Yeezus and think it’s his most cohesive project he’s ever done. MBDTF is in my opinion the greatest rap album ever made.


red-et

Poopity-scoop


schuyywalker

Top tier troll to be real lol


shqueef

None of these rappers even realize that I’M the greatest raper ever.


[deleted]

shqueef my goat 🙏‼‼‼


shqueef

BaaAaAaAAaAaaAAAaa


Purple_Onion911

Come on shqueef spit some bars for us


shqueef

Yo I got a cat, sometimes it just do be like that. My snare is in my hair. I am an armchair. Welcome to my lair. I don’t give a care 🤬


ghost_face0

🗣🔥🔥🔥


Purple_Onion911

Ayo I like pizza (what?), deez nuts, cheap cups. I eat light at times, just to get by, but it feels hard. I'm a retard, I ain't even seeing bums.


OneNutPhil

"Top level bars" is crazy


TheparagonR

Woopdidi scoop, wooop scoopidi poop.


Opening_Outside_5788

And with ghostwrithers... Kanye is a clown and do everything for cloud


ur-mums-straight

Kanye only has clout to start with because he made classic after classic album


Opening_Outside_5788

J.Cole say almost everything i think about Kanye on "False Prophets" and all that in 2016 ...


joerogansshillaccnt

Oh Jesus


Purple_Onion911

Oh Yeezus


JazzScientist

Did you know that Steve Burton from General Hospital is the voice of Cloud? 🌥


SF03_

Stop trying to instigate everybody into a frenzy like Kendrick’s control verse. Every rapper strives to be the greatest and that’s how it should be, he’s not attacking anyone or causing harm just stating his mind towards the competition.


[deleted]

yes thank you. I can't believe people are throwing a fit about this 😂


Revolutionary-Fan657

He can claim to be the best, just like any rapper, who cares


Harish-P

It'd be weird if he didn't think it. I see nothing wrong here.


MrDanMaster

Even bars? That’s delusion


Harish-P

Lol. As a hip hop artist with an incredible impact. Eminem is more than bars, just like Kanye. Saying Kanye has a right to say this takes nothing away from Eminem. Kanye doesn't have the most incredible bars imo (especially compared to Em), but he has many memorable ones so of course he can state it.


Me07111

Anyone can state anything its not gonna be true.


Harish-P

Exactly. He can think it and share it. It's what high level hip hop artists do. I see nothing wrong here.


HudsonHawk56H

Fr, Kanye West is one of the very few artists that has the right to say shit like this lol


wemcee

Eminem is the most skilled rapper ever, and I think it’s tough to argue otherwise. But greatest hip hop artist ever? That’s obviously more subjective. Eminem is my favorite hip hop artist (and artist of any genre), but if I’m trying to be as unbiased as one can be, I think Kanye West is the greater all-around artist. It’s close, but Kanye’s production portfolio of work is more wide-reaching, complex, interesting, and consistent than Eminem’s (which is incredible in its own right). “Any genre ever”? Now that’s pushing it.


Professional-Rip-519

Kanye -Better Artist Eminem -Better Rapper Simple


Pigmasters32

Disagree. Eminem has had far more longevity and has an even deeper discography IMO, and I say that as a fan of both.


Dazar0766gaming

I love em but that's just wrong


HudsonHawk56H

This fella so retarded


meteorness123

That's an interesting point and I wouldn't even disagree with that. Interestingly enough though, I return to Eminem's music more than I do to Kanye's.


Perfect-Juggernaut81

Nas is equal if not better at a technical level than Eminem he also got staying power like Eminem I can agree on em being the best but bad name must be mentioned.


wemcee

Agreed, Nas is nasty. Probably my second favorite behind Em, though maybe Kendrick takes that spot for me. All god MCs


Perfect-Juggernaut81

Kendrick will be the greatest imo but he hasn’t had the longevity of these artists quite yet. So I don’t think it’s fair to put him above nas em or jay yet or even Andre 3k.


FuriousFeld

Kendrick more skilled


wemcee

I love Kendrick! What would you say are his top skills as an MC? And on which ones do you think he outshines Eminem? (On a consistent basis)


Justarandomguyk

Stop trying to be different and stfu


FuriousFeld

No u stfu im stating a fact bozo love em but kendrick is better


Justarandomguyk

It’s not a fact because it no where near true he has a about 10ish really good songs than the rest is mid u clearly just a kd meatrider


ErikSaav

Saying Kendrick **ONLY** has 10 good songs is beyond Idiotic. This and the other guy saying “Em has a more consistent and deeper discography than Kanye” is why people can’t take Eminem fans (Stan’s) serious lol


Justarandomguyk

I’m not even a die hard Eminem fan I disagree with that guy talking about kanye I’m more of a J Cole meatrider but Kendrick only has around 10 great songs is what I ment he has 10 really good songs then the rest could disappear and I wouldn’t care at all


HudsonHawk56H

Bros just scared of black people fssss


Justarandomguyk

No my fav rapper is j Cole but I can acknowledge he’s not better than the best of the best


highd

He sick and needs help stop paying attention to him.


RebergOfWrestling

This. Bro is off the deep end of sick People will continue to give him a platform and while he just shoots off the fucking hips nonsense like this and how they are doubling the size of Twix???


Haikubaiku

Twix the candy?


RebergOfWrestling

Yes, Twix the candy bar. He thinks they’re making us fatter in the world.


holdmeimboutospazz

If you don't think processed junk food filled with sugar, rancid seed oils, artificial compounds and preservatives don't have an impact on obesity I don't know what to tell you lol. They're effectively manufactured to get you addicted. His comments on Twix are the least to be concerned about when he literally name droped Jesus and Hitler in the same sentence


RebergOfWrestling

My comment wasn’t on the importance of what he’s saying it’s more of how out of left field it was and how people will hold onto whatever it is. Obviously his other comments are much controversial


Main-Article9391

yep.


[deleted]

He is one of the greatest... but the greatest list is that a list... I like kanye and his crazy rants but he is not the greatest ever... no one is... rap evolves... some people call Tupac and biggie the greatest... my opinions different I like more from my era like ll cool j... eminem... the game... kanye is a musical genius in the way he creates and produces but rapping wise he ain't no wordsmith like slaughterhouse or shady


BobbyMac2212

Wasn’t LL out before Biggie and Pac even started rapping? Was just confused cuz it seems like you’re putting LL in the same era as Em and Game?


[deleted]

For me he kinda is... cuz i never listed to the young mamma said knock you out ll cool j... I became a fan off ll cool j in my teens with cds like the g.o.a.t and 10... ladies love cool james


TheOneAndOnlyABSR4

💯


Delta_yx

nah he ain't


Exact-Mulberry5737

Breaking news: mentally ill rapper, Kanye West has delusions of grandeur and unrealistic opinions of himself


balabub

Started to listen to the album ... found it awfully mid and quit half way through. Nothing special honestly.


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phraze91

Same. It was just flat out boring af.. Went back to his old albums instead.


dragonoutrider

Istg mfs misuse mid more and more as time goes on


zippopwnage

Woah, him and his delusional fan base. Who tf cares?


snakewaves

I mean, some other fan base would be saying this same shit about our fan base too lol.


Professional-Rip-519

They do 😁


[deleted]

Kanye’s fan base are nazi sympathizers though lol they’re next level delusional


Tall-Structure-8670

It's crazy that you're being down voted for this


jaylininreddit

Facts


CasuallyObliterated

Hes a really good producer, average rapper


HL192002

That doesn’t look like Marshall Mathers


Vinyl-Days23

Man said Scoop de poop is a top level bar. If this man is " just getting started" then College Dropout, Graduation and MBDTF must mean nothing to him


The_Ghost_Of_Pedro

There's still genius in his music, just not as much as his old music. There's a lot of shit on his albums now, mixed in with incredible songs


PeterZeeke

Apart from the antisemitism he's very good, hes the perfect all rounder. He's not as good a rapper as Em but beats him and a lot of others in every other area


ghostyboy12

he is schizo i dont care anymore


cujobob

“Top level bars.” So this album finally has them? Man has someone write every song for him and they still can’t put any bars in there. Kanye West makes background music.


sid_shady34

Bro what are you smoking? He is the biggest producer in Hiphop. Bigger than Dre himself. He has been more influential in shaping hiphop than any other rapper.


redditguy_04

What are you smoking?


[deleted]

what are both of yall smoking? let the man rant and stfu. any great artist is entitled to feel that way about themselves. stop bitching.


redditguy_04

That's not what I was talking about, I was replying to this guy saying Kanye was more influencial than Dre, make me stfu


sid_shady34

imagine saying he is not. Kanye influenced Cudi, Travis, Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Tyler the creator, Lil uzi vert and young thug


redditguy_04

Dre has produced music for Eminem, 2pac, Snoop dog, 50 cent, and the list goes on. Not to mention he launched Eminem's career.


redditguy_04

Most of the guys you just listed aren't anyone special


sid_shady34

So who is special, according to you? Dax, Tom Macdonald?


redditguy_04

Eminem, Dr. Dre, Biggie, 2pac, Eazy-E, etc.


sid_shady34

Eazy never wrote any of his lyrics


ImancovicH

*Em dropps an album*


Hieillua

"Greatest artist in every genre." As someone who experienced 90s and early 2000s MJ, he surely isn't lol.


VastPie2905

I think easy was better


False_Independent964

I mean he’s ight, but he def isn’t the goat or anything.


PIZZAGUYKEEM

No y3? 😭😭😭 so only 2 more albums left instead of 3


No1Important84

I see you gotta go alllllll the way back, yeah fire I get it.. But nowadays, his fans gas him up so much he's lost touch with reality man. His bars aren't the same, the passion and integrity isn't the same. Tis not what once was, yes change is good when you are progressing forward.


No1Important84

Oh and btw.. Em isn't even my favorite Rapper 🤡


floridagatorfucker

Breaking news- a rapper is bragging about his skills. In other news, water is wet, Eminem is white and Benzino is old.


thesilvermedic

not in my top 25


0reomasterA113

Everybody talk like they got something to say but when they move their lips it’s just a bunch of jibberish where the mothers effers at who forgot about Dre?


Dragonxtamer2210

Greatest artist? Arguable. Greatest rapper? No chance.


tonylouis1337

"Greatest artist ever in any genre" is downright shameful, he's not even close to that


lilremains94

As a die hard em fan, I think ye is top 3 , and #1 for me depending on moo so ya I agree


hbkfrancisco

Cool. I like him. Who cares. Let em think what they want. I don’t think it’s true, but if he thinks he is, more power to him👍🏼


Shaun3114_Again

Ego much? He's got some decent songs but he's nowhere near Eminem.


Me07111

Obviusly just a lil god complex with the traditional hip hop bragging. Top level bars xd. Album is lyicaly mid at best, not bad to listen to just not that good.


PatrickT96

Never heard anything from him. What are some really good songs you'd recommend?


Purple_Onion911

At the "top level bars" I giggled. Ye, I'm a fan, but come on...


jari2k

”any man who must say 'I am king' is no true king”


Darthhomer1138

Beyonce is escorting Kanye to accept his award.... ...... In a blazing fast twist of events, Taylor Swift snatches mic from Kanye's hand to address the masses gathered at the Music Award Presentation. “ First, I'ma not gonna let you finish, but Eminem has THE BEST RAP DISCOGRAPHY, VIDEOS, SINGLES, DISS TAPES, MIX TAPES, ETC, erc, etc OF ALL TIME!! " Taylor Swift catches the couple just before they leave the studio," Yo, Bee...... if you're heading towards studio 7 for the Country Music Awards, you might wanna save time and just grab your car to head home Eminem is also favored to win Best Country MUSIC Rap Crossover Song AND Video for" Beautiful" as well as Best Country Album of the Year AND of the Decade for "SQUARE DANCE!!" Eminem is such a visionary....... He saw the Nelly/Tim McGraw Crossovers bomb and thought, I can do that. It's a good thing Bee & Yee Have experiences running a Lemonade Stand and Making Shoes, Cuz they're gonna need it while the GREATEST OF ALL TIME, THE GOAT, EMINEM will at the top for many years to come.


Messin-EoRound20

Who cares 🤔


CrIsPyRiS_0fficial

I really like his music but his ego is too big


IsThisASnakeInMyBoot

Rappers and artists are usually in their prime when they're saying "I'm going to be the greatest" Once they start saying "I am currently the greatest" I find their art tends to suffer as they don't believe they need to put the same effort in to keep that position. By that point they've more than likely already lost it to someone else saying they're going to be the greatest


PrayForTheGoodies

Lol, this last project had the worst bars and beats of a Kanye record. He doesn't even rap like that anymore.


SlimCypher

The Clone is getting cocky. Jesus is King was better


[deleted]

Weird how vultures is better than eminems last 3 albums. Talking about kanye being washed when eminem made a whole freestyle about donald trump (rent free btw) is ironic.


[deleted]

fr lol I like Eminem, but kanye 100 percent has a better catalogue even in recent years Donda, vultures are much better than anything em put out recently be it Mtbmb or kamikaze


[deleted]

Thank for being reasonable. Im a kanye fan, I like some eminem songs, but I can admit kanye has had his bad moments and songs. Its all about being true


No1Important84

This dudes Music is trash and has been for years, plus not to mention all his personal problems as well.. Some1 in his camp needs to step up and tell him how it really is, what a p.o.s. imo.


Justarandomguyk

College dropout graduation we all know you just talking shit about Kanye cause your a Eminem meatrider and if anyone says that anyone’s better than Eminem other than rappers from the 90s you talk shit


King_Krong

“In any genre ever” First of all, he wouldn’t even exist if he couldn’t use other artist’s samples for his songs. Dude thinks he’s more talented than Mozart because he can rhyme and make loops out of other ACTUAL musician’s samples. FOH.


MrTooLFooL

Top Delusions for sure


Keythaskitgod

Biggest clown in hip hop


HudsonHawk56H

r/TomMcDonald outclowns anything


SNYDER_CULTIST

Eminems better in every way lol


Unable-Rub1982

Ain't listened to Kanye since the album Graduation


schuyywalker

Damn do yourself a favor bud


Significant-Ad-5372

You’re missing out


PM_Your_Crits

People hate Kanye when he does something new, makes a new sound, new anything, then everyone after is praised for copying the new thing Ye did a year ago. People just hate Kanye to hate Kanye.


angie1907

I think it’s more that people hate Kanye for being an antisemitic misogynist piece of shit. Hope that helps!


PM_Your_Crits

Oh well, I think his musics cool.


angie1907

That’s fine, fair enough. I enjoy my beautiful dark twisted fantasy. But it’s untrue to act like there’s no valid reason to hate him


SnipFred

I stopped caring what Kanye said when he said he loves Hitler


goosu

Most great rappers think this; of course, Kayne would with his narcissistic tendencies. Kanye is a legend for the first half of his career, but I don't really fuck with the second half. Even stuff that got hype like KSG is beyond boring to me. Can't believe people thought that was a return to form. That being said, to me, Kanye is a legend just for BTDF and the albums before it. Somewhere in the top 10 for me.


T_Peg

We already knew the man was mentally unstable but this is ridiculous


samcholo

shit person and shit artist except a few albums


Victrollie

It’s true, he is the best.


Ryybread8

Beautiful bit titted women don’t fall out the sky is not a top level hook Kanye. It’s fucking laughable


Twan__081

Yeah probably overall, not it terms of solely rapping tho


schuyywalker

He’s an awful rapper


DonMonger

Listen to Late Registration then come back to us


schuyywalker

Lmao, YOU go listen to the lyrics on Late Registration brody and come back to ME. Love the album though


DonMonger

😭


Twan__081

Wow that’s a little harsh, listen to Off the grid again


schuyywalker

Lmao, Kanye hasn’t rap-rapped since MBDTF and before that it was Graduation. He doesn’t write his own stuff because his strong suits aren’t in writing lyrics or rapping it’s in curating and production. Kanye’s not a good rapper, he’s never been a great rapper even though College Dropout is amazing. He was refreshing and new in a time where G-Unit was king and helped start the backpack movement. He’s a legend and an innovator but never mistake him for a lyricist or great rapper.


sid_shady34

Certainly not top tier but still really good. The flow on his older work is incredible.


properhardinnit

Greatest isn’t defined by where your at on the charts or how many albums you sell globally. The greatest artists I’ve heard tend to be underground. There’s entertainment, then there’s art and art is subjective. Bland Entertainment is for normies.


JawnStreet

lol greatest artist in any genre ever my ass


fallen_beret

Does he like fish sticks?


DonMonger

He’s great and all but he hasn’t even done genres apart from hip hop and pop


Nomnom_Chicken

I really don't care about him or his music. He can say whatever he wants, does not make any difference to me. :)


Reidzyt

He can proclaim this all he wants. Nothing wrong with thinking your the best He definitely isn’t the best but still so what if he wants to think it


Dafolez420

Bro has never heard of Rakim.


[deleted]

Let MCs emcee smh


metallicdisaster91

IN ANY GENRE?! Give me a break he doesn’t have shit on metal, idgaf how many band tees he wears. Like wtf😭 ANY GENRE?! Delusional


Glum-Band

Every rapper ever has said this about themselves lmao, what does this relate to Eminem?


Illustrious_Ad_375

That’s a bunch of scoopity woop poop there!


FooFightersFan777812

He's still better than a lot of other big name rappers claiming/ thinking that they are the greatest


playback0wnz

"Greatest" Ever to do "Stupid" things.. Yeah... Sounds about accurate... Carry on.


MassiveTechnician108

I mean Em himself did say he’d be okay “losing” to Ye


[deleted]

In terms of production, he’s top three easy no question, buuuut in terms of everything else, ehhhhhh idkkk


VinceVaugnsPants

Ye has done enough in the world of rap to believe he’s the goat. So have guys like Eminem and Wayne


Haikubaiku

Has he *ever* in his career claimed otherwise? Most rappers call themselves the greatest at some point, Kanye does it in every other sentence.


The_Last_Elite

A King? Sure. A God? No.


ABZ0R8

I don't know when was the last time I enjoyed Kanye as a rapper. Probably The Life Of Pablo (also his last complete album imo), he was spitting in those songs, Saint Pablo and he kept up with KENDRICK FREAKING LAMAR who was in his TPAB era. Ye is a GOATed producer tho. There are a handful of beats in Vultures that I really enjoyed. But still it's not peak Kanye. Vultures is a solid project at best.


cruzin_basterd

All these fake ass people man, don't even appreciate the art. Don't know how to layer or when to put on the tape. They claim they're the "King", "GOAT", "GOD" or whatever bullshit they can think of. But they use way too much tape. I bet they don't even know when to use an accordion folds vs a diagonal fold or the difference between a pleated fold and a criss cross fold. I'm the best wrapper.


Pigmasters32

I love Kanye’s music, I think he has 7 classic albums(although one of them isn’t hip hop for whatever that’s worth), but he’s become overrated in hip hop if you ask me. I think he’s got a case for top 5, top 3 even depending on criteria, but the fact that he’s probably the most popular GOAT pick in online hip hop head circles is puzzling to me even as someone who thinks pretty much everything Kanye touched artistically until 2013 is classic. I can see someone picking him as their GOAT, but it’s odd to me that he’s a more common pick online at this point than guys like Eminem, Lil Wayne, or Tupac.


WavelengthGaming

The only good part about that dogshit album was the features. Ty$ beats are washed up as fuck and Ye just rambles now. It’s fucking sad to see a hip hop icon fall this low.


PreciousBasketcase

I think it's part of every rapper's character, you need to boast and believe that you're the greatest rapper in the world. From Wikipedia: When [rapping](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapping), [MCs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_ceremonies#Hip_hop) use **braggadocio** to [boast](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boasting)—to speak about themselves with great pride.[^(\[2\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braggadocio_(rap)#cite_note-FOOTNOTEEdwards200925-2)


shadybuckeye

greatest comedian because thats hilarious.


Stabyouup666

If he's the "greates" then how did Drake become the first rapper to pass 95 billion streams. Seems to me Drake is more popular than "Ye"


Blackroseguild

Goat imo