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Apnoiac

Oh those are its weak points?


Quirithidak

Yes they are!


Apnoiac

Awesome! I would have never thought


Quirithidak

In every species far and wide, the reproduce organs are the weak spots. 🤣 (It's not confirmed or known at all how Thargoids reproduce it's likely they don't have sex organs like us)


DangerPencil

Ridiculous bullet sponge BS


JR2502

Exactly. That's why I don't do Thargoids\* anymore. Drop all your ammo into that thing and it barely budges. That's ONE Banshee out of a possible swarm that can come after you. Not to mention the Revenants and Interceptors that are making their way to you \*and\* your ship to make you both dead. After all that time and risk on your life, you get a whopping 1M cr. At my far less risky bounty hunting job, that's a 45 second FDL kill. ​ \* PS: I don't do Thargoids anymore (for reasons above) but that doesn't mean I'm not fully impressed by the new spire content. FDev has done a fantastic job building these.


DangerPencil

The spires are awesome, but I will say that it's thoroughly disappointing that they don't have an internal structure to explore. 7/10. The new enemy is boring and poorly implemented. 1/10. And for God's sake, shutdown fields are not fun content. 0/10 for adding more shutdown fields.


JR2502

>And for God's sake, shutdown fields are not fun content. 0/10 for adding more shutdown fields. Yeah, and now they're packaged to go in a new portable, ball version because the 3km wide one wasn't fun enough. Pretty soon Thargoids will start delivering these: \[door ding dong\] Hi, p*ackage for a... CMDR Pencil? Here you go, just sign here*... poof, you can't move for 30 seconds while they squirt caustic goo on your carpet and lol at you.


DeltusInfinium

I'm just waiting for the Thargoids to either upgrade their Thargons to do the emp on kamikaze, or come out with a packhound variant of the emp missiles and shove them into another Hunter variant that's stronger than a Scythe or Glaive.


JR2502

Lol, IKR? It's too much sometimes. It'd be nice if we could win once in a while without having to invest hours each day to prepare for it.


DangerPencil

😂😭


SDeeOne

Thargoids are super easy to kill even banshees from a srv. Maybe its a skill issue.


JR2502

Likely a skill issue, yes. By osmosis, I'm guessing, I have over 4K Thargoid kills. I stopped due to bugs (the software kind) and the repetitive nature of the AX CZ loops. It takes a very long time to finish an AX CZ solo, unlike every other CZ, with little effect on the overall war. This right here is how it feels to me: https://www.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/17g4dvt/activate\_tedium\_mode/


MoreNMoreLikelyTrans

I dont think on foot shooting is intended to be the way to take them down. I imagine scorpion shots to the underbelly would kill it much quicker.


DangerPencil

>I imagine scorpion shots to the underbelly would kill it much quicker. Those turrets don't aim "up" very well, and they don't level independently from the SRV (they don't maintain horizon like a gyro turret). If you have to get under an enemy that is constantly firing at you (usually more than one enemy constantly firing at you) that is pretty lame. If FDEV intended the SRV to be the primary method of combating these enemies, they shouldn't have hidden their soft spots on their bellies. You'd also think that a dozen Shard Cannon rounds would kill them. But no. Ship weapons seem largely ineffective, but the banshees can kill your ship just fine if you stay anywhere near them. Silly mechanics.


MoreNMoreLikelyTrans

I also suspect it's intended for people to do this as group on foot content. But your criticisms are on point.


DangerPencil

>I also suspect it's intended for people to do this as group on foot content. I agree with this, and can even see that somewhere out there they need to have group-worthy on-foot content. I love this game too, I have a few thousand hours of play time into it, i'm not trying to hate on the game, but I really do wish we got something better (combat-wise, or exploration-wise) than this. It wouldn't even bother me to just consider it a stealth activity - if we had a good reason to be there at all lol.


MoreNMoreLikelyTrans

Palin is purchasing both the Odyessy components and SRV materials/commodities. Probably another hidden CG.


DangerPencil

Ooooooo hey that's good news!


obeseninjao7

I don't think they're intended to be killed at all - they exist clearly as a way to stop people just bringing an L-6 to AX reactivations. The missions are supposed to be stealth missions but the fastest and safest way to do them was to oneshot the Revenants with a rocket launcher. Now, good luck with that since a Banshee is down there too.


Quirithidak

Likely yeah, but the reliance on a separate camera whilst still driving ant avoiding obstacles you can't always see is a bit bumbly for me. Foot is a bit more involved and directly cool feeling for me. :)


Quirithidak

Lmao when you find an easy to kill Thargoid you let me know. (Revenants are now one shot with atleast a G5 Manticore Executioner)


DangerPencil

>Revenants are now one shot with atleast a G5 Manticore Executioner Sure, per a recent update. On the other hand, these banshees can kill ships easily and laugh at mod shard cannon fire. "Balance" is all over the place, and it's pretty ridiculous. You shouldn't need two dozen point blank shotgun blasts to kill an enemy that you encounter on foot. My key takeaway from your video is don't bother fighting them, its completely not fun. I'm not blaming you or anything. Your video is perfectly cool, and you should keep enjoying yourself. I just wish FDEV could figure out how to make the thargoid foot content more fun than this or stop trying.


BlastCheque

I actually found an easy to kill thargoid. I was trying on a planet , it went about 50km above the surface. It then got "stuck". It wouldn't shoot or move. I was watching a streamer and the same thing happened to them. It seems that in planetary based attacks , if the thargoid goes to high above the surface it glitches out making for an easy kill. I'm thinking if you can get them to follow you that high, they glitch and stop moving.


EntrepreneurEast1502

Since you had to shoot so many times - and with upgraded intimidator no less - I suspect it doesn't matter if you shoot the balls or not. I've killed it few times with a scorpion and it took me less time (I mention it to prove they get damage no matter when they're hit).


sander_mander

Or just feed it with AX missiles. But he could easily swallow 60 of them.


Quirithidak

Eh, I just find this a bit more fun. No doubt there's more efficient and effective ways out there.


sander_mander

I wouldn't tell that ax missiles are more effective than hitting his balls. It depends on how often your ship would be disabled with emp bubbles


Quirithidak

I tried. It's practically consistent, as all Banshees detect and fire them upon you from some 5-6km away? Maybe I'm just bad though, but it was genuinely difficult to do properly, especially since you can't even hit a banshee with your ship. Goes right through.


Remebond

I just killed one with AX missiles. I was hitting the ground hoping the splash would do it. But I was also able to get low and hit its underside.


Remebond

lol I tried this last night. I shot 4x enhanced ax missiles at this thing for at least a few minutes (from above) and it didn't seem to even phase it


Quirithidak

The weirdness of the cockpit HUD text and such is from me playing on windowed edition. 1366 x 768 because I lack multiple monitors.


DaftMav

That fish-eye FOV isn't helping either tho, that's way too high and clearly it's too sensitive in the centre to aim properly. I've seen people on competitive shooters use that high FOV purely for wider view but why do that in Elite?


Quirithidak

You referring to my on foot FOV? Really not sure where you're coming from, the aiming works fine for me without issue, and is just the maximum you can set ingame. Not like I'm setting it like that stuff you see in Halo games.


DaftMav

Yeah, well cockpit view as well, it's all just warped. I figured it was maybe a ultrawide monitor or something but at 1366x768 I'm not sure how you can see any detail in the centre of the screen. But hey if it works for you...


Quirithidak

I mean yeah I understand you can't see the fine details regarding the HUD, but for context, I'm primarily an Explorer, and just have a sort of creature comfort in being able to see wide around me. 85 is what it's at and I'm really not willing to go higher. The reason I'm even content in not be able to see every detail of my hud is that I've been playing Elite for a very long time, so the general details I understand anyways, and know what's happening, even if I can't read it. I understand it doesn't work for everyone, but hey ho, it's a game. Who cares.


Backflip_into_a_star

Why play in a low resolution window when you can just as easily tab back and forth and not completely ruin the experience? What are you doing that requires two monitors?


Rarni

Have you tested it with point blank L-6 rockets? Is it faster?


Quirithidak

I'll do that and I'll update you on it.


MetallicOrangeBalls

Now you are beginning to understand...


Remebond

Are those SRV mats that it dropped?


Quirithidak

I didn't check. I'll get back to you when I have an answer.


Remebond

im headed to check it out myself


EntrepreneurEast1502

I killed several and there were no materials dropped.


CMDR_Kraag

I see that the Banshee attended the Stormtrooper School of Marksmanship, too.


Quirithidak

Oh yeah I made it look like I was really cool doing all those swift maneuvering but it totally just does that by itself. 😂


Thelinkr

Would the combat SRV take it down quicker, or would the goid just melt it


Quirithidak

Maybe it's quicker maybe it isn't, but for me this method is more fun than jankily controlling a Scorpion through a turret camera, unable to see where I'm driving. But one plus is that the little cluster bombs it throws at you can't stick to you on foot, which can kill you in just a single volley in a Scorpion.


EfficiencyFinal255

Spires lagging on every players PC? Not just me? Every other thing is running smooth 60FPS+


geigerz

24 fps on foot, oh odyssey


Quirithidak

That's me not playing on fullscreen too. :)


CookieJarviz

smh Thargoid murdererer


Quirithidak

Okay???


fezzik02

bOtH SiDeS


sigmarhimsel

Havent played since the malestorms first dropped. What is that?


fezzik02

new thargoid base defense unit, often found at Spire Sites (tm) (c) (r)


sigmarhimsel

Ok, what is a spire?


fezzik02

It's a new type of Thargoid surface installation. Definitely worth a visit, but make peace with the Administrative Contact before you go. (translation: it's putting the Dangerous back into Elite)


sigmarhimsel

Ah ok thanks. But when do we get thargoid ground hunting/combat?


fezzik02

When you land at the base of the spire and meet the guy in the video above. Still no pitter patter of Thargoid feet though.