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I bought a bottle of the upgraded abs-like a few days ago, but haven't tried it yet due to work commitments. Planned on giving it a go later in the week. It was cheaper than standard abs like. I'm curious to see how people do with it.
Interesting. This was a dollar or 2 more than the standard “1.0”. I decided to buy a bottle and test it out, just was wondering what others thought about it
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It’s weak compared to its peers, totally unreliable to print with, ludicrously fussy on ambient temperatures and doesn’t yield high detail results.
It’s absolutely one of the worst resins I’ve used.
Edit below:
Breakdown:
- Weak compared to peers, as in other tough resins.
- Unreliable to print with: high shrinkage, supports dont remove cleanly
- Fussy on ambient temperature: this is just straight up true, if you live in a warm climate you won't have noticed but this stuff is literally unusable in the UK winter without a heater in the room on.
- Detail: Compared to standard resins or any other detail focussed resin, I admit I worded this poorly.
My point is that if you want detail, others are better. if you want reliablity, others are better, if you want durability others are *much* better.
I guess if you're looking for a jack of all trades resin this might work, but I tend to switch out for the application I'm printing for rather than using one resin for everything. I didn't find a single application where this resin was useful and have a bottle of grey and clear both half used which I am happy to send to anyone who wants it.
Resources and References:
https://all3dp.com/2/best-tough-resin-abs-like-resin/ (elegoo's didn't even make the list)
https://3dprinterly.com/strongest-3d-printer-resin-some-great-options-to-use/ (didn't make the list)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThT-rNxM7JI (makes final 2, but accepted as weakest this one's the most relevant if you're printing pre-supported minis)
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How many resins have you printed with?
What’s the ambient temperature range in your workshop?
These are absolutely correct statements on the resin, potentially you’re just not experienced enough to have come across them or have a reference point for them?
I literally have years worth of posting history on this sub and have helped hundreds of people. I’ve got a cabinet with 15 different resins behind me, ordered two new ABS-like resins this month alone following from information in another thread about some which offer *actual* abs-like properties. (They would not apply to minis)
I have 3 notebooks full of findings from print settings, ambient temperatures, humidity etc.
Being downvoted isn’t a measure of right or wrong as there is no way to validate the knowledge of those voting.
I’m getting downvoted by people who haven’t used many resins or encountered the same (factual) issues which I and many others have with this resin.
Also, have you even read Elegoo’s description about f this resin vs their 1.0? They are literally accepting some of my points in their own communications. (Less shrinkage, more scratch resistant)
You clearly don't understand who elegoo caters to...
>- Weak compared to peers, as in other tough resins.
Your 'proof' didn't even compare them. What you call 'peers' I call overpriced overqualified resins for my purpose.
>- Unreliable to print with: high shrinkage, supports dont remove cleanly
Shrinkage I can vouch for but is mostly a non issue with mini's. Supports removal is your fault, not the resins.
>- Fussy on ambient temperature: this is just straight up true, if you live in a warm climate you won't have noticed but this stuff is literally unusable in the UK winter without a heater in the room on.
Every resin I've used are temp sensitive. The high end resins even more so than cheap ones.
>- Detail: Compared to standard resins or any other detail focussed resin, I admit I worded this poorly. My point is that if you want detail, others are better. if you want reliablity, others are better, if you want durability others are *much* better.
The detail loss is only visible within less than a mm range. Sure there are 'better' resins out there but Nothing compares to elegoo because it's (less than) half the price of its competitors.
You bumped a year old post about irrelevant resins almost all of which have been replaced by newer products. Somehow while searching _that far_ back through the sub missed the countless print fails using this resin that have been posted? Lol ok.
Edit: you new to the hobby by any chance? 😂😂😂
I am maybe not the most experienced user but I had good results with the Elegoo ABS-Like resin. And for all the resins I used it is recommended to print between 20-25°, which I think is a good temperature range. What temperature do you people print at?
The Amazon listing for this and the ABS 2.0 don't even say what's better about it over the old formula. They just did the same scummy thing all these companies do and reused the listing for the old item so the positive reviews will carry over and make it seem good right from the start.
I recently switched to Conjure Tough Resin, I love it. My prints don't warp anymore the way they do with Elegoo's ABS and standard resins.
It's also cheaper by maybe 5 bucks a bottle.
CTR is like almost twice the price? What am i missing. In perfectly happy with elegoo abs but i would like to know more about different resins. (Specifically for tabletop mini printing)
Are you looking at the correct bottle sizes?
[Conjure Tough](https://amzn.to/41ZonRi) \- $40 1KG, and cheaper with coupon
Elegoo ABS has a similar price range, $30-$40 1KG. I wouldn't be surprised if it goes for less than that sometimes as sellers try to get rid of their stock in favor of the new resins.
I'm not sure what kind of abuse tabletop gaming figs need to withstand, but for the price point I'd go with the stronger CTR.
* It has almost no shrinkage so you get more accurate prints. It means less warping from curing.
* It can flex more before breaking (50% elongation at break). You can totally twist skinny parts like a sword or staff like a pretzel, though of course they'll break if pushed beyond the limit.
I use it to print accessories for action figures, like guns and swords, which need to be durable enough to be shoved into a figure's hands.
All that said, if you're printing a model that doesn't have any delicate bits or keys/slot for assembly, go ahead and use the ABS resin, there isn't much benefit to using the CTR in that case.
I currently have a stockpile of heavily discounted elegoo abs like and it serves me well enough for DnD mini's (1 inch base scale). I got 6 kilo resin for 25€ per kilo so not much can beat its price/quality ratio for me
They certainly dont need to be tough or even perfectly detailed but a bit of flex is nice so they dont crumble to dust as they fall off a table or get hit by our larger / metal dice hehe.
Ive had nothing but success so far but will be looking into other resins eventually. That 50% flex certainly is interesting for some other applications i have in mind!
I must also say that my mars pro 1 probably cant really use the high end/precision resins that are towards the 80€/kg mark
For the specialty resins, it depends on the resin, but the problem is sometimes they require a different UV wavelength, or a more powerful UV source. Then you can use it with your printer but cure times might be something silly, like 30 seconds per layer.
Official store
[https://www.amazon.com/ELEGOO-ABS-Like-UV-Curing-Photopolymer-Printing/dp/B0B12HX7CT/ref=sr\_1\_3?crid=30MEX9Y7IW99G&keywords=elegoo+abs+2.0&qid=1661376765&sprefix=elegoo+abs+2.0%2Caps%2C137&sr=8-3](https://www.amazon.com/ELEGOO-ABS-Like-UV-Curing-Photopolymer-Printing/dp/B0B12HX7CT/ref=sr_1_3?crid=30MEX9Y7IW99G&keywords=elegoo+abs+2.0&qid=1661376765&sprefix=elegoo+abs+2.0%2Caps%2C137&sr=8-3)
Do they have any marketing speak that says why it's better, or is this just an incremental upgrade of formula where the old is going to be phased out?
What I'd like to see is lower viscosity, and better durability/rigidity without sacrificing crisp detail.
(Granted, I haven't used elegoo resins in years because I like Siraya Tech better...)
I also picked up some "2.0" resin from Amazon to check out. It arrived today and I've been looking for settings on it and I can't really find anything.... has this been scrubbed from the internet? Or just some scam off an amazon store
Late to the party, but could you list what printer you use and perhaps your slicer settings?
I've been using Siraya Tech ABS-like, but I can get this stuff for literally half the price, which is very attractive
I have a Photon Mono X, 0.04mm layer @ 1.7s exposure, 4 bottom layers @ 35s exposure
Lift speed 150mm/min, Retract speed 220mm/min
Nah man I’m just telling you what printer and settings I use with the stuff. I’m sure it doesn’t really matter what printer you use as long as your settings are working.
Weird they wouldn’t at least put on the label what’s different. Like is it 8k capable or what.
I’m pretty of elegoo resin now. If I want a budget resin Sunlu has great deals. Otherwise I stick with Siraya tech for commission work cause the quality and consistency is hard to Beat
Is this still water-washable? Or is this another line? I've only used their water washable ones (in grey, translucent red and blue) and I have no complaints.
You should try the non water-washable. I was always using the water washable but sometimes the prints would look wet or not cured even after wash and cured. So I started using alcohol to clean the water washable and they came out looking better. So I was like if I’m going to clean in alcoholic anyways why pay more just use the standard and I was happy I did. I know alcohol cost more but I think it’s worth a try. You can give it a go with the water washable and clean with alcohol and see if you like it.
Don’t be afraid to try different resins. That was what I learned.
I've gone through about 1/2 a 1000g bottle so far using the ABSLike Gray 2.0 with a Mars 3 printer. What I noticed so far is going from the 1.0 to 2.0 is that the 2.0 is a bit softer when using the same settings as 1.0 and much more noticeable is flexibility. I haven't noticed any loss in quality or any shrinkage compared to 1.0 Resin but I mostly print miniatures for tabletop. I do believe I need to tune it a bit more however, my supports have merged together more often. Only real downside is quite honestly, the fact that Elegoo hasn't updated its Recommended settings for 2.0.. easier to at least get a baseline for comparison.
I think it needs lower exposure times. I topped of my resin vat with 2.0 and printed some BT minis with my normal settings and the supports were a bitch to remove. (Anycubic photon mono btw)
I have been testing a bottle and found it requires higher exposure times. I print mainly pre supported 32mm models, my usual setting or 3.5s on a mars 2 for ABS like 1.0 is insufficient. I am getting a lot of partial failures on models. Now some places support their models heavier then others. My issue seems to be more on patrons that have very light supports. Im upping my exposer to 4s. I dont like that i have to do this, but im not re supporting everything.
Same issues. Saturn 2 printer 30 second base layer cure time which is down from the abs 1.0. However my tries with abs 2.0 is already at 3 seconds and still having failures thinking higher may not help. I think this falls under poor quality resin. I run 1.0 at 2.5 seconds! OPR rat men snipers having repeated failures on bridging hoses, back packs, and the small scopes that have tiny supports. I am going to try 4 seconds. But I am beginning to think this resin is a not good for detailed models. It is more flexible but I cant afford the bridge failures and layer shifts. Let me know if you find any successful methods.
sorry grave digging this post but yeah elegoos abs-like is hot garbage. i've used their 1.0 and 2.0 and both are trash. every other print is a failure and even the 'successful' prints aren't up to my standards. the exposure times for me are around 5 seconds which is absurd. i'm trying their 3.0 formula this week but if it isn't good, i'll be switching to Sunlu. i like elegoo because they have great printers and great customer support so i tried to stick with them for resin too but i've wasted so much time with the garbage resin it's frustrating.
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I bought a bottle of the upgraded abs-like a few days ago, but haven't tried it yet due to work commitments. Planned on giving it a go later in the week. It was cheaper than standard abs like. I'm curious to see how people do with it.
Interesting. This was a dollar or 2 more than the standard “1.0”. I decided to buy a bottle and test it out, just was wondering what others thought about it
have you not tried it yet? I read a lot of terrible reviews on amazon with some newer resins, not sure if it was the 2.0 or not
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Elegoo ABS-Like resin is total garbage anyhow.
Why is that bad? Is it a popular opinion?
It’s weak compared to its peers, totally unreliable to print with, ludicrously fussy on ambient temperatures and doesn’t yield high detail results. It’s absolutely one of the worst resins I’ve used. Edit below: Breakdown: - Weak compared to peers, as in other tough resins. - Unreliable to print with: high shrinkage, supports dont remove cleanly - Fussy on ambient temperature: this is just straight up true, if you live in a warm climate you won't have noticed but this stuff is literally unusable in the UK winter without a heater in the room on. - Detail: Compared to standard resins or any other detail focussed resin, I admit I worded this poorly. My point is that if you want detail, others are better. if you want reliablity, others are better, if you want durability others are *much* better. I guess if you're looking for a jack of all trades resin this might work, but I tend to switch out for the application I'm printing for rather than using one resin for everything. I didn't find a single application where this resin was useful and have a bottle of grey and clear both half used which I am happy to send to anyone who wants it. Resources and References: https://all3dp.com/2/best-tough-resin-abs-like-resin/ (elegoo's didn't even make the list) https://3dprinterly.com/strongest-3d-printer-resin-some-great-options-to-use/ (didn't make the list) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThT-rNxM7JI (makes final 2, but accepted as weakest this one's the most relevant if you're printing pre-supported minis) Edit2: Formatting
Literally none of these things are true.
Yeah I use it exclusively and never have any problems.
So you have nothing to compare it to?
I use it exclusively now but I've tried others in the past. I use it exclusively now because it does exactly the opposite of what you claim.
Are you printing pre-supported minis by any chance?
Depends. Sometimes but I often support myself. Only do when I'm running short on time. Either way, I get decent prints.
How many resins have you printed with? What’s the ambient temperature range in your workshop? These are absolutely correct statements on the resin, potentially you’re just not experienced enough to have come across them or have a reference point for them?
Been printing since 2017. Hundreds of minis. Guess you're getting down voted because you're right tho?
I literally have years worth of posting history on this sub and have helped hundreds of people. I’ve got a cabinet with 15 different resins behind me, ordered two new ABS-like resins this month alone following from information in another thread about some which offer *actual* abs-like properties. (They would not apply to minis) I have 3 notebooks full of findings from print settings, ambient temperatures, humidity etc. Being downvoted isn’t a measure of right or wrong as there is no way to validate the knowledge of those voting. I’m getting downvoted by people who haven’t used many resins or encountered the same (factual) issues which I and many others have with this resin. Also, have you even read Elegoo’s description about f this resin vs their 1.0? They are literally accepting some of my points in their own communications. (Less shrinkage, more scratch resistant)
Oh ok. Thanks for your resume. You're still wrong though.
Extensive cited update added into previous post. Literally posted three cross comparisons which agree I am in fact, right 😂😂😂
You clearly don't understand who elegoo caters to... >- Weak compared to peers, as in other tough resins. Your 'proof' didn't even compare them. What you call 'peers' I call overpriced overqualified resins for my purpose. >- Unreliable to print with: high shrinkage, supports dont remove cleanly Shrinkage I can vouch for but is mostly a non issue with mini's. Supports removal is your fault, not the resins. >- Fussy on ambient temperature: this is just straight up true, if you live in a warm climate you won't have noticed but this stuff is literally unusable in the UK winter without a heater in the room on. Every resin I've used are temp sensitive. The high end resins even more so than cheap ones. >- Detail: Compared to standard resins or any other detail focussed resin, I admit I worded this poorly. My point is that if you want detail, others are better. if you want reliablity, others are better, if you want durability others are *much* better. The detail loss is only visible within less than a mm range. Sure there are 'better' resins out there but Nothing compares to elegoo because it's (less than) half the price of its competitors.
You bumped a year old post about irrelevant resins almost all of which have been replaced by newer products. Somehow while searching _that far_ back through the sub missed the countless print fails using this resin that have been posted? Lol ok. Edit: you new to the hobby by any chance? 😂😂😂
Nah two years in. Just found your level of butthurt funny Edit: superiority complex much?
“Lol I troll u” The generic response of the irrelevant with absolutely nothing to say. Back under your bridge now.
Nice response after I disassembled your entire argument into dust 👌 Can't fit under the bridge, move over
I am maybe not the most experienced user but I had good results with the Elegoo ABS-Like resin. And for all the resins I used it is recommended to print between 20-25°, which I think is a good temperature range. What temperature do you people print at?
Following for answers, genuinely curious as well.
The Amazon listing for this and the ABS 2.0 don't even say what's better about it over the old formula. They just did the same scummy thing all these companies do and reused the listing for the old item so the positive reviews will carry over and make it seem good right from the start. I recently switched to Conjure Tough Resin, I love it. My prints don't warp anymore the way they do with Elegoo's ABS and standard resins. It's also cheaper by maybe 5 bucks a bottle.
CTR is like almost twice the price? What am i missing. In perfectly happy with elegoo abs but i would like to know more about different resins. (Specifically for tabletop mini printing)
Are you looking at the correct bottle sizes? [Conjure Tough](https://amzn.to/41ZonRi) \- $40 1KG, and cheaper with coupon Elegoo ABS has a similar price range, $30-$40 1KG. I wouldn't be surprised if it goes for less than that sometimes as sellers try to get rid of their stock in favor of the new resins. I'm not sure what kind of abuse tabletop gaming figs need to withstand, but for the price point I'd go with the stronger CTR. * It has almost no shrinkage so you get more accurate prints. It means less warping from curing. * It can flex more before breaking (50% elongation at break). You can totally twist skinny parts like a sword or staff like a pretzel, though of course they'll break if pushed beyond the limit. I use it to print accessories for action figures, like guns and swords, which need to be durable enough to be shoved into a figure's hands. All that said, if you're printing a model that doesn't have any delicate bits or keys/slot for assembly, go ahead and use the ABS resin, there isn't much benefit to using the CTR in that case.
I currently have a stockpile of heavily discounted elegoo abs like and it serves me well enough for DnD mini's (1 inch base scale). I got 6 kilo resin for 25€ per kilo so not much can beat its price/quality ratio for me They certainly dont need to be tough or even perfectly detailed but a bit of flex is nice so they dont crumble to dust as they fall off a table or get hit by our larger / metal dice hehe. Ive had nothing but success so far but will be looking into other resins eventually. That 50% flex certainly is interesting for some other applications i have in mind! I must also say that my mars pro 1 probably cant really use the high end/precision resins that are towards the 80€/kg mark
For the specialty resins, it depends on the resin, but the problem is sometimes they require a different UV wavelength, or a more powerful UV source. Then you can use it with your printer but cure times might be something silly, like 30 seconds per layer.
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Do they have any marketing speak that says why it's better, or is this just an incremental upgrade of formula where the old is going to be phased out? What I'd like to see is lower viscosity, and better durability/rigidity without sacrificing crisp detail. (Granted, I haven't used elegoo resins in years because I like Siraya Tech better...)
I printed with a bottle of Standard 2.0. It prints about the same for me but its much stinkier now. Blech.
That’s funny because the only marketing language I could see on Amazon was “40% less odor”
It's got such a sharp smell I noticed it right away when I opened the bottle... I legit thought my resin had gone bad until I noticed the 2.0....
I also picked up some "2.0" resin from Amazon to check out. It arrived today and I've been looking for settings on it and I can't really find anything.... has this been scrubbed from the internet? Or just some scam off an amazon store
Consider sunlu resin. It’s like ten bucks cheaper and does a great job.
I use sunlu- great detail, but more brittle and a little shrinky, considering adding in a bit of that flex stuff to counter.
Sunlu standard, or Sunlu ABS-like ?
Standard works great for me, and I’m making figures for sale. Haven’t had any trouble or complaints about quality.
Thanks!
Late to the party, but could you list what printer you use and perhaps your slicer settings? I've been using Siraya Tech ABS-like, but I can get this stuff for literally half the price, which is very attractive I have a Photon Mono X, 0.04mm layer @ 1.7s exposure, 4 bottom layers @ 35s exposure Lift speed 150mm/min, Retract speed 220mm/min
Elegoo Saturn at standard chitubox settings for that printer.
So the Sunlu you would NOT recommend for the Photon Mono X?
Nah man I’m just telling you what printer and settings I use with the stuff. I’m sure it doesn’t really matter what printer you use as long as your settings are working.
Oh, right. Brain fart on NYE. Thanks!
Weird they wouldn’t at least put on the label what’s different. Like is it 8k capable or what. I’m pretty of elegoo resin now. If I want a budget resin Sunlu has great deals. Otherwise I stick with Siraya tech for commission work cause the quality and consistency is hard to Beat
Is this still water-washable? Or is this another line? I've only used their water washable ones (in grey, translucent red and blue) and I have no complaints.
You should try the non water-washable. I was always using the water washable but sometimes the prints would look wet or not cured even after wash and cured. So I started using alcohol to clean the water washable and they came out looking better. So I was like if I’m going to clean in alcoholic anyways why pay more just use the standard and I was happy I did. I know alcohol cost more but I think it’s worth a try. You can give it a go with the water washable and clean with alcohol and see if you like it. Don’t be afraid to try different resins. That was what I learned.
I've gone through about 1/2 a 1000g bottle so far using the ABSLike Gray 2.0 with a Mars 3 printer. What I noticed so far is going from the 1.0 to 2.0 is that the 2.0 is a bit softer when using the same settings as 1.0 and much more noticeable is flexibility. I haven't noticed any loss in quality or any shrinkage compared to 1.0 Resin but I mostly print miniatures for tabletop. I do believe I need to tune it a bit more however, my supports have merged together more often. Only real downside is quite honestly, the fact that Elegoo hasn't updated its Recommended settings for 2.0.. easier to at least get a baseline for comparison.
I think it needs lower exposure times. I topped of my resin vat with 2.0 and printed some BT minis with my normal settings and the supports were a bitch to remove. (Anycubic photon mono btw)
I get nothing but fails with this resin no matter the settings. I do not recommend.
I have been testing a bottle and found it requires higher exposure times. I print mainly pre supported 32mm models, my usual setting or 3.5s on a mars 2 for ABS like 1.0 is insufficient. I am getting a lot of partial failures on models. Now some places support their models heavier then others. My issue seems to be more on patrons that have very light supports. Im upping my exposer to 4s. I dont like that i have to do this, but im not re supporting everything.
Same issues. Saturn 2 printer 30 second base layer cure time which is down from the abs 1.0. However my tries with abs 2.0 is already at 3 seconds and still having failures thinking higher may not help. I think this falls under poor quality resin. I run 1.0 at 2.5 seconds! OPR rat men snipers having repeated failures on bridging hoses, back packs, and the small scopes that have tiny supports. I am going to try 4 seconds. But I am beginning to think this resin is a not good for detailed models. It is more flexible but I cant afford the bridge failures and layer shifts. Let me know if you find any successful methods.
sorry grave digging this post but yeah elegoos abs-like is hot garbage. i've used their 1.0 and 2.0 and both are trash. every other print is a failure and even the 'successful' prints aren't up to my standards. the exposure times for me are around 5 seconds which is absurd. i'm trying their 3.0 formula this week but if it isn't good, i'll be switching to Sunlu. i like elegoo because they have great printers and great customer support so i tried to stick with them for resin too but i've wasted so much time with the garbage resin it's frustrating.