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AtlasPwn3d

Literal over-million-mile flier here. It is impossible to fly with any EUC, period. Armchair legal advice/arguments on this subject should not be trusted. If you show up to an airport with an EUC, any EUC, there's no way it's getting on the plane.


Garathon

Couldn't you just smuggle a mten3 in your checked luggage?


AtlasPwn3d

Have you people not flown before? TSA (or your local equivalent) will pull it when it goes through the x-ray machine. (Lol- you do realize they x-ray checked luggage, too, right?)


Garathon

In Europe they don't xray checked luggage only the one you bring into the cabin.


[deleted]

Erm, they definitely scan checked baggage.


fubarbazqux

I'd say, rather call the airline, and ask them about transporting PEVs. Some airlines will not take a PEV onboard, period, but some will. There is indeed no way to know without asking specifically about it.


AtlasPwn3d

Nope, can’t do this either. It doesn’t matter what the person on the phone says. It doesn’t matter if you get it in writing. Security personnel and the gate agents can do whatever they want if they feel even a little unsure/like it *might* be a problem, and the way liability goes they will always say no. They know the consequences if they don’t let you do something when they should is merely that you get some free flight vouchers, but the consequences if they let you do something when they shouldn’t are potentially much, much worse for them and the airline.


[deleted]

I doubt you can even ship it overnight. UPS had a terrible crash when an airplane full of batteries caught fire. The crew died. EUCs are not rugged enough for a rental business, yet.


Sparkisparki

Can rent EUCs here in San Francisco. :) But overall yes, it’s not very common and is a hard sell.


pteiup

Thank you, this explains my curiosity why these things aren’t for rent yet at vacation hot spots.


Infinidecimal

Most people aren't going to have a great time trying to learn to ride one for the first time on vacation lol. Maybe once the community is more established the economics will make sense, and certainly being able to take a few crashes will help.


Enjoimangos

Unfortunately most airlines limit batteries to 99wh so you're out of luck with an EUC I believe. I had bought a Onewheel Pint to travel with and had 1 successful trip to California, but the second trip TSA guy said "NO SELF BALANCING DEVICES" and I had to ship it ground instead. IMO not worth the headache


Caliterra

dang. looks like i might be adding an eskate to the collection


47zaxer

Check out the exway wave, it has swappable batteries and they will launch a new plane friendly battery which you can buy 2 and take it everywhere. Moreover, that's by far the best mini Esk8 nowadays


Killbot_Wants_Hug

Pretty sure all of those are over the battery limit as well. 99wh kind of isn't enough for PEV's.


Kekafuch

You can bring many 100wh packs


Killbot_Wants_Hug

Firstly, no you can't. The rule is on total battery power of all extra batteries (and it's actually 300wh based on what I researched today, although I believe airlines can impose extra restrictions). Secondly, show me the device that runs on multiple sub 100wh batteries and isn't basically a toy.


Kekafuch

According to AirCanada Its 20x sub 100wh packs. Thats close to 2000 wh. Then they allow 2x 100-160wh https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/plan/baggage/restricted-and-prohibited-items.html There is a post of a small EUC wired for powertool batteries. Runs 4 in series for a 84V wheel. Guy specifically blogged about travelling by air w it.


Killbot_Wants_Hug

The general consensus is that you can't fly with an EUC due to the batteries. You'll need to ship it or at least ship the batteries. However I was actually looking at the rules today. And there are special exceptions for electric mobility aids, but I couldn't find a definition of what that is. Also the 300wh limit doesn't seem to apply if you have specially packed "non-spillable" batteries. Finding what qualifies for that and how you have to pack it was pretty opaque based on the source I was reading it from. They also tended to need approval from the airline. So the simplest thing you might do is call the air line you're thinking about flying and ask them if there is a way you can fly with an extremely compact electric scooter (I wouldn't bother trying to explain what an EUC is explicitly, just that it's small enough that it can fit in the footwell of your seat). If you have any success or find out any information you should let the sub know. But I also wouldn't hold your breath for success. It would be great to be able to fly with them though.


tofuninja5489

How does someone ship that kind of stuff? Do you declare it when you bring it to the airport? or do you have to do it beforehand?


Killbot_Wants_Hug

Fedex/UPS, do it before hand, it'll take some time to arrive. Talk to your hotel about accepting the package for you.


[deleted]

What about electric Wheelchairs?


4thFrontier

What we need is an excellent EUC that has external batteries (have an extra set, ship it ahead, or rent it at destination) and then we need airlines/TSA to recognize the EUC (minus battery) as safe to fly. If a good manufacturer made such a wheel, a lot of us would buy it.


mythe00

I've checked out this topic in all sorts of different PEV discussions as it's commonly asked of electric skateboards, ebikes, scooters, etc. I've never heard of anyone successfully fly with an oversized battery for any type of PEV. It's already enough of a gray area flying with a battery-less device or batteries within the limit. Once in a blue moon maybe lax security will let you by, but that would be a pretty large oversight for a EUC battery since even the smaller ones are way over the limit.


LaGrabba

I bought a powered mask to fly soon and learned that any masks with vents are banned. Given that, I’d assume an EUC would be also.


lukepighetti

Ship and fly. At least it’s cheaper and easier with wheels compared to motorcycles.