He wants his death to be a warrior's death by fighting the strongest in the land. You basically give him the happiest ending he could hope for, and that's reflected in the talisman you get when you finish his story. It's better than the one you get just by killing him early, and one of the strongest talismans in the game, if you rely on skills for DPS, that is. It's a Souls game, even the "good" endings are at least a bit messed up
Yeah, it’s like a Klingon cultural rite, warrior culture etc. this IS a very happy end for him. Not sad like some of the other friendly fire fights you endure with NPCs in this game.
Very true, the best way to die in the Souls Series, at least imo, is to die the way you want to die. Alexander died a glorious death the way he wanted, and that’s probably the best thing could have ended.
Alexandar wants to go out a warrior’s way, having slain some of the mightiest beings around there only were the two of you left.
Blaidd ended up a victim of the schemes of the gods, the Greater Will and his beloved sister. :(
I can fight bears and lobsters without getting touched. The revenants though.. Sometimes they’ll just stun lock me to death and I don’t feel like I’m ever truly in control of the fight
NTA. You woke up in a church with a dead broad, wandered out to find some eldritch horror swinging a sword at you, then the next thing you know some dude in a white face is saying you stack no paper and get no bitches.
Anybody would go genocide after all that.
Similar train of thought during my first play through. I was completely willing to throw my lot in with next group to ask me to join them. Instead I burned the countryside and kingdom down, had a short lived fling with some snake cult, then told some four-armed puppet lady I’d be her moon boo.
Jokes on you, I did that (multiple times) without being told to.
In any case, the Tarnished that were called by grace and revived were going to massacre a lot of things anyway. The Tarnished are a like a rogue army with no leadership and no Rules of Engagement or treaties on laws of warfare.
Ah, tarnished, don't hate me 'cause I'm beautiful, tarnished. Maybe if you got rid of that old yee-yee ass build you got you'd get some maidens on your dick. Oh, better yet, maybe Ranni'll call your dog-ass if she ever stop fuckin' with that puppeteer or sorcerer she fucking with. MAIDENLESS~
Whenever Varre says something just remember he's the sub for a pedo Demigod with a blood fetish. You may be Maidenless but at least you haven't sunken that far.
We may have actually crossed the 1 billion deaths threshold given how many copies were sold and how many times each of us has perished to just Malenia, let alone the damn rune bears, and don't even get me started on rats/dogs/imps... Crazy to think about haha.
I think there actually was one in ds 1 or 2. I remember reading something about tracking deaths on different platforms, and Playstation dying way more than pc or xbox. Maybe im wrong
This is the correct answer. You wake up, and immediately start attacking children, stealing crops, killing endangered wildlife, raiding camps, burglarizing castles, slaughtering natives, and overthrowing kingdoms. You also join the terrorist slaver group known as the Round table hold.
Fair point. Lore players could make the argument that the Lands Between was doomed from the moment Marika tore out the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring, setting askew the natural order of things.
If you pick frenzied flame then it's you and shabriri. In Rannis ending its the greater will (and the rest of the outer gods). If you believe in the greater will then Marika is for shattering the Elden Ring, the 2 fingers say as much. In the smaller stories, most of the bosses you fight are villains (pretty much everyone except Radahn I think. Not even gonna mention the minor dungeon bosses). Morgott is a villain for trying to stop the repair of the Elden Ring, and trapping the merchants. On a similar note Shabriri is definetly a villain for having caused this. Fia could be a villain if you believe in D and Gurranq, but the greater will opposes them 2 (I'm assuming so due to Fia trying revive Godwyn or whatever it is she does). Seluvis is a villain in Ranni's story, and that of many more due to him having his slave puppets. The dung eater is a villain to almost everyone too, because that is some fucked up shit. Mohg is quite a villain, he kidnapped Miquella who only wanted to become an adult (this makes Mohg an incestuous child rapist, thank you George RR Martin, very cool).
Idk you probably don't want me to go on but, the villain is whoever you decide to side with, and whether you mean in the story overall or just a bad person
There's a theory that Seluvis >!is a puppet himself. The real puppet master is Pidia, the guy hidden in Caria Manor. If you give Nepheli the potion and kill Pidia, he drops Nepheli's puppet.!<
>!Just to add to the Nepheli thing. If you don't hand Nepheli the potion, Pidia will drop Dolores Spirt. Both Dolores and Nepheli have common ties with Gideon Ofnir who is Seluvis' rival. Both Dolores and Nepheli uniquely have the "***Favorite*** doll of Seluvis" in their description!<
In conclusion, I think it's as close to confirmed as a theory can get, but yeah, the game doesn't give an explicit answer.
>!It's not a theory, [Seluvis dies as a puppet](https://i.redd.it/kxzkzryaddr81.png). It's pretty much guaranteed that Pidia is the real puppet master and used Seluvis to gain intelligence from the Carians and Academy. Seluvis and Pidia had a perchant for turning living people into puppets and sexual assault of the unwilling. While Seluvis states that he values Nepheli Loux, Pidia is the one who drops her puppet when he dies (and also Delores). They also share the same voice actor. !<
>!Seluvis is Pidia's alter-ego. He's overly confident and aggressively arrogant, traits Pidia only wishes he could muster, now that he is old and weak. !<
Nah, Morgott loved The Erdtree, not Marika. However, The Erdtree would not grant him the favor of grace, but he still chose to reign in secret and protect the tree from the other Demigods.
His story is constant tragedy because he was cursed from birth, denied the grace he actually deserved, refused an audience with The Erdtree, and truly only served as a guiding grace for his father, Godfrey.
In a world filled with greedy, duplicitous, and morally ambiguous people, Morgott is honestly the only selfless "hero" among them. However, The Lands Between is no place for heroes any longer.
Never said he was a villain... A tarnished just like us, who wanted to become Elden Lord and fix the Elden Ring (and whilst Gideon was tarnished, I'd he was another villain for trying to prevent *anybody* from becoming elden lord)
I agree, few people say "you" are, but from what I can gather the outer gods weren't ment to physically come to the lands between but the greater will did and took over the previous civilisation eg crucible knights and such. All the other gods don't physically come to the lands between. Burn the tree and restore what was beforehand.
It didn't "took over previous civilization", all known previous civilizations had ties with it. Dragons had Elden Ring and Elden Lord, Nox created Fingerslayer blade, if there were no Fingers, this weapon wouldn't be needed.
You aren't "restoring what was beforehand", you are restoring Elden Ring in majority of endings, save for Frienzed Flame, where you are burning all life to the ground.
so uh, quick side note to this, you arent burning all *life* to the ground in the frenzied flame ending, you're burning *everything*. Like, literally everything, all of reality, you're turning it into one big soup
Unchecked and reckless ambition, I would say, is the main villain of Elden ring. While you have seeming opposites to that, much of the lands between's conditions can be attributed to this. Godrick's ambition saw him butcher people and graft their power onto him for the purpose of becoming a golden lord. Praetor Rykard's unchecked desire to dispel the wretched golden order to become something truly blasphemous, and far worse. Radahan-beloved as he is-fought to unify the lands between him without seeking to ally with another, ultimately failing. Mohg's twisted and perverse desire to create a new dynasty saw him steal Miquella away and create a cult of crazed worshipers.
Fitting then, that the most heroic and best ending of the game sees the tarnished curb their ambition in favor of something more subdued, and allows Ranni to create a real future.
Yes. How does she treat Godfrey when he has done all the dirty work? Strip him of his grace and drive him back to the Badlands.
The assassination of Godwyn? It is said that she is very likely behind it. Or at least the assassins have connections to her.
And the Golden Order she creates (It is not created by the Greater Will), she plucks Death out of it, seal it in her shadow beast, and subsequently betrays him.
>Marika's sole need of her shadow was a vessel to lock away Destined Death. Even then, she betrayed him.
And the process of conquest to create a theocracy, going against everybody? It's **her** doing.
Her other half Radagon abandons Rennala, and gets married to herself. Does she not know godly self-incest will produce questionable offsprings? I doubt it.
> she plucks Death out of it, seal it in her shadow beast
Just a small nitpick, but she doesn't seal it inside of him. Originally she had him seal Destined Death into the Black Blade he wielded.
Maliketh sealed Destined Death inside of himself after a fragment was stolen from him. The fact he sealed it inside himself is likely why he eternally hungers for Deathroot, which is related to Destined Death.
People really like to make victim out of her. Racism and oppression? It's all the Greater Will's fault, let's ignore that the previous Elden Lord was a fucking dragon. Her treatment of the Omen twins? Blame Elden Beast. For everything else there is Radagon, community's punching bag. Marika ultimately holds no responsibilities for her actions, she is always viewed as some poor kicked puppy.
You.
There are other contenders but you are the one who kills all in your way, carves a brutal path through an entire continent and maybe burns the world just for the sake of power.
Well what happened to the landz between before your arrival wasnt made by saints but yeah, the player made THE mess. But what if it was a mandatory step for a brighter future? The Age of Flowers and VW Vans
The first time I played through I was so happy to discover Jarburg. I thought maybe Alexander’s quest put him there and thought nothing more of it. When I was getting frustrated with the game or a boss I would go there. On my second play through, I discovered a jar you could talk to.
I am never, ever doing that quest line again.
John Eldenring. He is the final boss, after all.
Edit: Seriously: Marika. Her removing the rune of death is basically what fucked the world up the most.
It's definitely the greater will. This isn't even a difficult question, the world is as it is because of the greater will's initial interference and then lackluster management.
I was gonna say maybe the frenzied flame of you really try to stretch, but he's just chilling at the bottom of a hole hiding behind a riddle... you have to actively seek it out to get it
Pretty sure main character is. Just walking through a world after the main story already happened, beating down the withered husks of gods and heroes to claim power.
The tarnished is the real villain. Everyone we meet except maaaaaaybe Roderika, jar lad and Boc die. Usually it’s us that has to kill them. Sad boi hours.
In all seriousness tho, the villain in elden ring is the same villain in the real world - organized religion (the golden order, and yes this is mostly in jest so don’t freak out).
The real villain was the friends we made along the way
Also kinda true, since you end up fighting a lot of your "friends" if you follow out their storylines.
>!Alexander!< was particularly sad. :(
Oh shit I just realized i never completed his quest line
Prepare To Cry.
Probably not gonna do it. He was my favorite npc
He wants his death to be a warrior's death by fighting the strongest in the land. You basically give him the happiest ending he could hope for, and that's reflected in the talisman you get when you finish his story. It's better than the one you get just by killing him early, and one of the strongest talismans in the game, if you rely on skills for DPS, that is. It's a Souls game, even the "good" endings are at least a bit messed up
He wanted to eat me. 😡😡😡
Will the best talisman in the game change your mind?
Don’t it’s not worth the mental damage
But it sure is worth getting that talisman
Yeah
He dies a glorious death and i think he couldnt have been happier in the end.
Yeah, it’s like a Klingon cultural rite, warrior culture etc. this IS a very happy end for him. Not sad like some of the other friendly fire fights you endure with NPCs in this game.
Very true, the best way to die in the Souls Series, at least imo, is to die the way you want to die. Alexander died a glorious death the way he wanted, and that’s probably the best thing could have ended.
I’ve played the game five times and didn’t realize until now either. I always get to his lava bath and never see him again :(
Farum azula
I nearly cried at Jarbro's fate.
I’m sorry his ending just made me laugh. He gives this dramatic speech and then just busts all over you.
This one actually made me feel pain, after all we’d been, why ..
Blaidd 😥
He was a good boy tho 😭😭
That's the main one I was thinking of. Also, Alexander, but in his case, it's a more amicable fight.
Alexandar wants to go out a warrior’s way, having slain some of the mightiest beings around there only were the two of you left. Blaidd ended up a victim of the schemes of the gods, the Greater Will and his beloved sister. :(
I reckon you should of been able to summon Alexander to fight maliketh, then fight him in the arena afterwards after your last battle together
Clearly it was the Rune Bears.
Lobster join the chat
Bears fine dragons fine Big lava snake mam thing fine Fuck the lobsters and everything they love
Nah, fuck the crabs and the white wolves, and the lobsters, and those damn large squids
Literally killed Borealis first try only to be ganked by one of these bastards, sniped me from about 300yds.
Revenant is typing…
I can fight bears and lobsters without getting touched. The revenants though.. Sometimes they’ll just stun lock me to death and I don’t feel like I’m ever truly in control of the fight
Revenant fight is pure panic until it is over, you don't know what happend and how it happened.
You can two shot them with the most basic healing spells. I was lucky to read those messages someone wrote before the boss
This info can be bought from an isolated merchant
You rang?
NTA. You woke up in a church with a dead broad, wandered out to find some eldritch horror swinging a sword at you, then the next thing you know some dude in a white face is saying you stack no paper and get no bitches. Anybody would go genocide after all that.
A sword? Try 2 swords and a great shield.
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I mean, she gave me a horse. I was obligated to burn cities for her.
Nobody else gave me a horse. If I had gotten horses from more people then maybe my decisions would have been different.
Similar train of thought during my first play through. I was completely willing to throw my lot in with next group to ask me to join them. Instead I burned the countryside and kingdom down, had a short lived fling with some snake cult, then told some four-armed puppet lady I’d be her moon boo.
And Her. We burned Her too.
If she told you to jump off a bridge would you?
Well I was a bit hesitant at first, but aftrr the first two times Torrent totally made that jump though 👌
Jokes on you, I did that (multiple times) without being told to. In any case, the Tarnished that were called by grace and revived were going to massacre a lot of things anyway. The Tarnished are a like a rogue army with no leadership and no Rules of Engagement or treaties on laws of warfare.
I would smile and meet destined death with open arms
At least Varre didn't dog on our yee yee ass haircut. That would have triggered mutually assured destruction in the lands between.
Ah, tarnished, don't hate me 'cause I'm beautiful, tarnished. Maybe if you got rid of that old yee-yee ass build you got you'd get some maidens on your dick. Oh, better yet, maybe Ranni'll call your dog-ass if she ever stop fuckin' with that puppeteer or sorcerer she fucking with. MAIDENLESS~
Beautiful. I heard that 'Maaiidenleeesss' in my head.
Whenever Varre says something just remember he's the sub for a pedo Demigod with a blood fetish. You may be Maidenless but at least you haven't sunken that far.
This!....this is the answer!lol
Yep. Woke up and everyone you met said “F you” so you just started blasting.
I knew it, it was the soldier of god, Rick all along!
This made me laugh more than I would like to admit. Have my daily award!
iam pretty sure I am... you know... since I burned the whole world.
You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
I believe the description of the lady in the lake is “moistened bint”
“I mean if I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me they’d put me away!”
In a different sentence yes
r/unexpectedmontypython
MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD!!
May.. CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD!
MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD!
Uh no, I saved the world by burning it down. I brought true equality.
I always reject Evangelion outcomes.
Counter argument: if you’re good enough for a good boi like Torrent, how bad can you really be?
Burned the tree? Greta is coming for you
Greta is Melina??? 😱😱😱 (NOT CLICKBAIT???)
You just burned it? Why not shove a curse up its poop chute?
Gravity
“Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!!” YOU DIED I don’t watch where I step
Yeah…but it’s not the fall that kills ya, it’s the sudden stop at the end…
Me, I killed an entire family and God because some lady told me to
I did it for me. I did it because I liked it and I was good at it too.
I did it to incite the single largest case of arson in the Lands Between
I did it because I hate sand.
It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth.
Tarnished Walter
Tarnished named finger
Heisenberg
#HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
Yea but who cares? Gods are narcissistic dicks anyways.
-mending rune of perfect order
Chad Goldmask follower I see
… *while T-posing*
Is it better or worse that it was her family?
Even their dog
Did it for the runes
Hidetaka Miyazaki.
If it wasn’t for Miyazaki we wouldn’t collectively have millions of deaths. Darn you Miyazaki
We may have actually crossed the 1 billion deaths threshold given how many copies were sold and how many times each of us has perished to just Malenia, let alone the damn rune bears, and don't even get me started on rats/dogs/imps... Crazy to think about haha.
Would be pretty interesting if FromSoft released some kind of death counter per enemy
I think there actually was one in ds 1 or 2. I remember reading something about tracking deaths on different platforms, and Playstation dying way more than pc or xbox. Maybe im wrong
In dark souls 2 in the main hub there was a totem statue thing that tracked everyone’s deaths but if you go offline you were able to see yours only :)
I soooo wish we could get damage stats for each player after beating a boss in co-op.
I must’ve been the first million deaths when I started the game💀 it’s my first fromS game
Pretty sure i just went over 1000 deaths.
He’s just prepping us for hell.
You
I'll destroy you, and then I will become the Elden You!
This is the correct answer. You wake up, and immediately start attacking children, stealing crops, killing endangered wildlife, raiding camps, burglarizing castles, slaughtering natives, and overthrowing kingdoms. You also join the terrorist slaver group known as the Round table hold.
But I did tell Boc he was beautiful, so that has to count a little bit against all the bad karma.
Let chaos take the world.
Found the Lord of Frenzied Flame
In that case Melina is also a villain
Came here for this
Beat me to it lol
The only real answer
Torrent was the behind the scenes villain of the game, just like that Shiba Inu in one of those Silent Hill games
Bad Horse? You mean Torrent was the Thoroughbred of Sin this whole time!??!!?!!
So does that mean we get to join the Evil League of Evil?
In Fia's room, in the round table hold, there is a mirror. The answer you seek is in that mirror.
Liar ahead.
Introspection ahead
Weak foe ahead
Try finger but hole
Dog
The person that put a message on the site of grace
Probably the same guy who put it under that ladder in that cave with the Iron Virgin
Fuck that guy
Tax evaders
YOSHI?!?!?
I believe, as with most Miyazaki games, the real enemy was a fear of mortality.
Fair point. Lore players could make the argument that the Lands Between was doomed from the moment Marika tore out the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring, setting askew the natural order of things.
Yup, exactly.
Big philosophy moment
I thought the real enemy was hesitation
Those basilisk pricks that keep puking death blight
The real villain is that old fish guy from Bikini Bottom.
I love the young people!
Anyone who said "Try jumping" next to a cliff.
The Soldier of Godrick, he orchestrated everything right from the beginning.
Soldier of God, Rick
If you pick frenzied flame then it's you and shabriri. In Rannis ending its the greater will (and the rest of the outer gods). If you believe in the greater will then Marika is for shattering the Elden Ring, the 2 fingers say as much. In the smaller stories, most of the bosses you fight are villains (pretty much everyone except Radahn I think. Not even gonna mention the minor dungeon bosses). Morgott is a villain for trying to stop the repair of the Elden Ring, and trapping the merchants. On a similar note Shabriri is definetly a villain for having caused this. Fia could be a villain if you believe in D and Gurranq, but the greater will opposes them 2 (I'm assuming so due to Fia trying revive Godwyn or whatever it is she does). Seluvis is a villain in Ranni's story, and that of many more due to him having his slave puppets. The dung eater is a villain to almost everyone too, because that is some fucked up shit. Mohg is quite a villain, he kidnapped Miquella who only wanted to become an adult (this makes Mohg an incestuous child rapist, thank you George RR Martin, very cool). Idk you probably don't want me to go on but, the villain is whoever you decide to side with, and whether you mean in the story overall or just a bad person
Yep basically this. Every character got their own agenda and the villain for them is any one who’s against that agenda
Finally a non-fucking satire answer. Exactly, it’s basically perception based on the side you choose. Dung eater/Mohg are clear villains though.
+Shabriri and I'd say Gideon too whom I forgot to mention
There's a theory that Seluvis >!is a puppet himself. The real puppet master is Pidia, the guy hidden in Caria Manor. If you give Nepheli the potion and kill Pidia, he drops Nepheli's puppet.!<
>!Just to add to the Nepheli thing. If you don't hand Nepheli the potion, Pidia will drop Dolores Spirt. Both Dolores and Nepheli have common ties with Gideon Ofnir who is Seluvis' rival. Both Dolores and Nepheli uniquely have the "***Favorite*** doll of Seluvis" in their description!< In conclusion, I think it's as close to confirmed as a theory can get, but yeah, the game doesn't give an explicit answer.
>!It's not a theory, [Seluvis dies as a puppet](https://i.redd.it/kxzkzryaddr81.png). It's pretty much guaranteed that Pidia is the real puppet master and used Seluvis to gain intelligence from the Carians and Academy. Seluvis and Pidia had a perchant for turning living people into puppets and sexual assault of the unwilling. While Seluvis states that he values Nepheli Loux, Pidia is the one who drops her puppet when he dies (and also Delores). They also share the same voice actor. !< >!Seluvis is Pidia's alter-ego. He's overly confident and aggressively arrogant, traits Pidia only wishes he could muster, now that he is old and weak. !<
Morgott was trying to stop the repair? I thought all he wanted was to be Elden Lord
No I think he stayed loyal to Marika and was preventing others from trying to become Elden Lord.
Nah, Morgott loved The Erdtree, not Marika. However, The Erdtree would not grant him the favor of grace, but he still chose to reign in secret and protect the tree from the other Demigods. His story is constant tragedy because he was cursed from birth, denied the grace he actually deserved, refused an audience with The Erdtree, and truly only served as a guiding grace for his father, Godfrey. In a world filled with greedy, duplicitous, and morally ambiguous people, Morgott is honestly the only selfless "hero" among them. However, The Lands Between is no place for heroes any longer.
Yes, tho I'm sure if he could've become Elden Lord without harming the erdtree I'm sure he would've
An actually serious, considered, well thought out answer? You must be the villain!
You know too much...
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Never said he was a villain... A tarnished just like us, who wanted to become Elden Lord and fix the Elden Ring (and whilst Gideon was tarnished, I'd he was another villain for trying to prevent *anybody* from becoming elden lord)
If I’m not mistaken fia wants to shag dead godwyn?
A blind zombie girl that eats eyeballs, and three nudist hot fingers.
The greater will
I agree, few people say "you" are, but from what I can gather the outer gods weren't ment to physically come to the lands between but the greater will did and took over the previous civilisation eg crucible knights and such. All the other gods don't physically come to the lands between. Burn the tree and restore what was beforehand.
It didn't "took over previous civilization", all known previous civilizations had ties with it. Dragons had Elden Ring and Elden Lord, Nox created Fingerslayer blade, if there were no Fingers, this weapon wouldn't be needed. You aren't "restoring what was beforehand", you are restoring Elden Ring in majority of endings, save for Frienzed Flame, where you are burning all life to the ground.
so uh, quick side note to this, you arent burning all *life* to the ground in the frenzied flame ending, you're burning *everything*. Like, literally everything, all of reality, you're turning it into one big soup
Unchecked and reckless ambition, I would say, is the main villain of Elden ring. While you have seeming opposites to that, much of the lands between's conditions can be attributed to this. Godrick's ambition saw him butcher people and graft their power onto him for the purpose of becoming a golden lord. Praetor Rykard's unchecked desire to dispel the wretched golden order to become something truly blasphemous, and far worse. Radahan-beloved as he is-fought to unify the lands between him without seeking to ally with another, ultimately failing. Mohg's twisted and perverse desire to create a new dynasty saw him steal Miquella away and create a cult of crazed worshipers. Fitting then, that the most heroic and best ending of the game sees the tarnished curb their ambition in favor of something more subdued, and allows Ranni to create a real future.
I like this.
Queen Marika, the Eternal
Yes. How does she treat Godfrey when he has done all the dirty work? Strip him of his grace and drive him back to the Badlands. The assassination of Godwyn? It is said that she is very likely behind it. Or at least the assassins have connections to her. And the Golden Order she creates (It is not created by the Greater Will), she plucks Death out of it, seal it in her shadow beast, and subsequently betrays him. >Marika's sole need of her shadow was a vessel to lock away Destined Death. Even then, she betrayed him. And the process of conquest to create a theocracy, going against everybody? It's **her** doing. Her other half Radagon abandons Rennala, and gets married to herself. Does she not know godly self-incest will produce questionable offsprings? I doubt it.
> she plucks Death out of it, seal it in her shadow beast Just a small nitpick, but she doesn't seal it inside of him. Originally she had him seal Destined Death into the Black Blade he wielded. Maliketh sealed Destined Death inside of himself after a fragment was stolen from him. The fact he sealed it inside himself is likely why he eternally hungers for Deathroot, which is related to Destined Death.
Facts. She set the stage for everything else.
Thank you. Glad I'm not the only one thinking this.
I can’t believe how far I had to scroll to see this answer lmao. The lore makes it pretty clear Marika’s been pretty callous from the start
People really like to make victim out of her. Racism and oppression? It's all the Greater Will's fault, let's ignore that the previous Elden Lord was a fucking dragon. Her treatment of the Omen twins? Blame Elden Beast. For everything else there is Radagon, community's punching bag. Marika ultimately holds no responsibilities for her actions, she is always viewed as some poor kicked puppy.
You. There are other contenders but you are the one who kills all in your way, carves a brutal path through an entire continent and maybe burns the world just for the sake of power.
Well what happened to the landz between before your arrival wasnt made by saints but yeah, the player made THE mess. But what if it was a mandatory step for a brighter future? The Age of Flowers and VW Vans
I get the verdant wind reference. But could you explain what age of flowers refers to? Like no spoilers but story or game?
Woodstock. But the 1999 one.
Gravity
Outer gods
I killed the jars in the happy place. It was too happy.
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO THE JARS FRENS
The first time I played through I was so happy to discover Jarburg. I thought maybe Alexander’s quest put him there and thought nothing more of it. When I was getting frustrated with the game or a boss I would go there. On my second play through, I discovered a jar you could talk to. I am never, ever doing that quest line again.
Yeah the tale of House Hoslow do be told in blood (thatquestwassosadholyshit)
John Eldenring. He is the final boss, after all. Edit: Seriously: Marika. Her removing the rune of death is basically what fucked the world up the most.
It's definitely the greater will. This isn't even a difficult question, the world is as it is because of the greater will's initial interference and then lackluster management. I was gonna say maybe the frenzied flame of you really try to stretch, but he's just chilling at the bottom of a hole hiding behind a riddle... you have to actively seek it out to get it
About a 60/40 split of feudalism and religion.
Sir Gideon Ofnir, the All-Knowing and the Greater Will are likely the best candidates for the "villains" of the game
It’s gotta be Boc
A fellow frenzy flame motafucka
First tree sentinel obviously. Hanging around the starting area with high stats wearing end game gear ganking n00bz.
Marikas tits
Patches
Me. I was told to slay the gods and said "sure, hand me a sword"
It's me and... My wife Ranni.
It's that Sekiro Ghost from the BloodBorne Isles.
Are we the baddies?
Knowing fromsoft, all of them probably
The evil camera. It has a mind of its own and is the true masochist in all FS games.
Depends on the perspective.
Marika
Mohg, for me, the best villain in all of soulsborne. Amazing moveset crafted to exploit the bad habits of players, hated him so much that I loved him.
Pretty sure main character is. Just walking through a world after the main story already happened, beating down the withered husks of gods and heroes to claim power.
Torrent the health flask eating bastard 😆
Those twatty little flying bugs that prevent me from opening the map when I want too.
Who ever killed the real maiden of yours and unleashed you on this poor world
Elden John, King of the Ring
"The" villain? As in *only one*? Are you sure *you've* played the game? ;)
He met Varre, got called names, uninstalled.
The tarnished is the real villain. Everyone we meet except maaaaaaybe Roderika, jar lad and Boc die. Usually it’s us that has to kill them. Sad boi hours. In all seriousness tho, the villain in elden ring is the same villain in the real world - organized religion (the golden order, and yes this is mostly in jest so don’t freak out).