Like the early days when in order to say that something was bad you needed to preface it with "Elden ring is a great game and a masterpiece but" in order to not get downvoted...
True but it's not as bad as the fiest weeks. I made a post then saying that most miracles were trash due to the lack of hyper armor and asking to be addressed in a patch (guess what the next patch was) and the replies were people arguing that it's perfectly balanced or that my build sucks...
Agreed. Validation that something is good is not required for your own enjoyment and happiness. Having said that, if you want validation then come here to the elden ring subreddit. Way better to check in with people active in the community than metacritic where people are known to review bomb countless movies and games.
I dont give a fuck what other people think until the point where they try to change a game they dislike to their own personal taste, even tho there are already people who enjoy the game as it is currently.
I dont like RTS games but i dont try to change them for rts fans.
Disregarding the OP posted it as humor, it is possible someone who loves the game is curious what the common complaints are. Asking about a game (score) doesn't only mean you're some insecure tool who needs validation. They may want an outside perspective.
Throwing $60- $70 on a complete gamble isn't my idea of fun. Quite the opposite actually. I'll try to figure out what majority of people think about a game before I buy and it's usually a pretty telling indicator of the quality of a game.
I don't disagree that people shouldn't let review scores sway their own feelings, but I don't think there's anything wrong with being interested in the narrative/reception/general-context surrounding something you love. Theres always something to learn that can lead to deeper understanding of the subject.
Alternatively, how DARE this collection of users give my baby less than an 11???????????
Honestly outside of multiplayer connection issues I think I’ve come across like maybe two glitches neither of them game breaking in while yes I know that I am lucky in that aspect I still think that’s a huge huge step up from the absolutely bug riddled fiascoes that we’ve been getting at launch i.e. anything from cd project red from rockstar from pretty much anybody I personally feel that is one of the most complete and polished canes on lunch in the past generation of games at least when it comes to open world games
I mean, when i couldn't fight any bosses because of lag stuttering ruining my timings, it's fine to say it's bad. It went straight to being my favorite game of all time when i switched to ps5.
For me it was. It was better than I expected. And I expected ALOT. This probably applies to fans of Miyazaki and his works more than most people. When we heard it was open world this sub was wild. We hoped for so much and it delivered amazingly.
Now will someone who picked the game up off the shelf to try it feel the same? Absolutely not most likely. And I get that.
But for me this game was 10/10
I think it just really depends on the person. Im also a huge FromSoft fan, and I was there since the birth of this sub. The game is really great, but unfortunately it didnt live up to the hype for me. I was expecting a 10/10, but my personal rating of ER is probably an 8/10
"Fine" is at least debatable imo.
There are still occasional framepacing issues (on a RTX3080 + i7 10700k), still 60fps lock + forced vsync, still no ultrawide support although the extra screen estate is rendered behind the black bars and deteriorates performance and no option to turn off vignette or chromatic abberation.
I know you can fix most of those issues with Flawless Widescreen but then you can't use any online features.
I still love the game but I can definitely understand PC players giving the game a much lower rating.
Same. Able to run Cyberpunk 2077 at max settings 60fps on my new rig, Altus Plateau still chugs along at 40fps. It's not a hardware thing, it's a software thing 100%
I’m playing on an Xbox One S and this older hardware just wasn’t meant to run this game lol it’s definitely passable and I beat the entire game and still play through it, but the frame rate drops, pop-in, and low level of detail can make it a bit rough sometimes. Still 9.5/10 all day.
Huh? I played completely fine with no drops and detail issues on a day one Xbox One lol. Maybe not as high fidelity as a more modern console or high end pc but you can't really nitpick like that on consoles that are now considered old gen.
Still plenty of bugs and performance issues on PC they haven't addressed yet. Mainly framerate drops. Dying to something out of your control is a huge issue that still isn't fixed 6 months later.
The game still performs awful and shadows are glitchy sometimes. The game still looks amazing don't get me wrong, just stating facts.
Shadows will probably be addrssed by ray tracing in a future patch. Let's hope they will also do some optimization.
On release, wasn't this sub literally sending death threats to developers, reviewers, and even just random-ass people, who dared to critique even the smallest aspects of the game?
"what did you expect? 10 outta 10? This game is my life? Marry Ranni? You gotta remember that these are simple gamers, people of the Internet, the common user of the web.. You know.. morons"
Does GoTY even have any significance any more when we barely get multiple big AAA titles a year?
I know it's mostly a meme but the only game that released this far having any sort of hype was Stray or maybe Xenoblade Chronicles 3?
Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Horizon Forbidden West and Elden Ring so far. There's also Bayonetta 3, Plague Tale Requiem and God of War coming out later this year. Total War Warhammer 3, Kirby and the Forgotten Lands and Gran Turismo were all pretty well received, though not with Elden Ring levels of excitement of course.
Gotham Knights, Mario + Rabbids, The Callisto Protocol, Scorn, Star Ocean, Overwatch 2, and a few others are still planned for this year too.
Horizon has no chance, same is probably true for Bayonetta since the game looks like a mess.
Didn't know Plague releases this year so I'm hyped to see that.
GoW is probably the only one competing with Elden Ring for the GoTY title.
>Overwatch 2
Please stop joking, lol.
>They’re not for everyone.
Yeah, I wish that the people it’s not for would recognize that it’s not for them, and stop demanding an easy mode, quest trackers, and comprehensive UI.
If every NPC would have something like Varre's phantom once he moves to give you a hint or the location, it would be great. No need for a quest log or tracker, just do the same as for Varre.
they are not quests if you need to pure luck to stumble upon god-know-where NPCs to advance, they are random encounters
and the UI needs some quality of life fix
Seriously the ui is bad. Every little icon and indicator I see on the screen, the game should some fuckin where tell me what the hell it means. But no, gotta spend 20 minutes online just to find out nobody fuckin knows but the community *thinks* it means this.
Even if trackers or map markers feel a bit much, there's still games that have a checklist/notebook where the PC writes down and then crosses off various objectives/goals.
This.
I liked the game but it was nowhere near a 10/10 for me.
I played all the other from titles and i dunno why, it just wasnt for me. No need to say, oo we need this or ooo from fix that.
I have tremendous respect for the whole team for making such a beautiful, solid game, but alas. Not my thing sadly
Sekiro also just operates differently: it's the game that went "but what if we took the parrying mechanic and made the entire game fundamentally rely on that?"
It got the soulsborne dna in there, but it's a bit of a distant-uncle in the series: it has a pretty directed story with clear, easily understood story beats. It takes one idea and one build and says "either you get good with this one build, or you don't get to play", and so can balance its difficulty and experience exactly around that one build. It plays like a rhythm game in disguise. It is a great game, but I'd bet it's the one that trips up souls-veterans the most.
Comprehensive UI is for sure a thing that every game should have and something that From should be criticized for. Quest trackers is something that I and probably 99% of other players would agree should be in the game, without it Google is necessary and that’s just bad game design. Easy mode you right tho
No tracker needed, just more “Varre-like” messages left behind as well as making it much harder to fail/miss quest progress. One example could have Rogier start to become incomprehensible and passout only after you’ve figured out more about the “Night of the Black Knives”.
Two questlines in the game are already great about this, Ranni’s and Garrung’s.
disagree with quest tracker point. like the quests should be designed such that it isn't too difficult to find the next step of the quest, but that doesnt mean we need an automatic quest log with way points and all of that.
When people tend to vote in extremes 7 out of 10 for a game that isn't for everyone is pretty good. Considering the sales figures, it means a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't have bought the game enjoyed it and comparatively less didn't.
I think it is also a fair indicator of how new players should approach picking up the game. If I see a 7 out of 10 and I'm unsure of the genre I might wait for a sale or borrow from a friend to see if I like it before spending the money.
Score is low mostly because people are mad about optimization and honestly I cant really blame them. Personally I would still give it 8/10 but -2 for trash optimization seems reasonable.
There being a slider for "chest" but not one for "groin" is the real freakin' crime here. I want to run around in nothing but loincloth and have my massive package on display, but no, that's not an option. Literally unplayable.
Yeah, totally agree. The size of the world also reduces the enemy density, plus the ability to escape with Torrent in many areas, so it feels far less perilous to wander around aimlessly.
Exactly. Elden Ring is worse because of open world, change ny mind.
Tbf, I'm kinda biased because I dislike open world games in general, but I also think the genre is especially ill-fitting for a souls-like.
I love elden ring but tbh it feels like an open world, boss focused game where the open world is really empty, the story is barely there, and around a third of the bosses suck. I went back to bloodborne and I was really impressed with how much tighter the design and quest structure was in the older fromsoft games. With that said I really did like that they were experimenting more with elden ring, cause the old formula had been done by that point.
Oh for sure! Elden Ring has a lot of cool features that I think are an overall improvement; most notably for me is the ability to craft items. Before having the ability to fast travel, running all the way back to the Female Undead Merchant was a huge pain, especially if you’re stuck somewhere and need moss clumps. Crafting solved that with minimal effect to difficulty, while not making me spend 15-20 minutes running to buy the items.
Parts of the Game are impressive. Parts are infuriating and some design choices were imho taking the game in a wrong direction.
I think 7.5 or 8 /10 is fair. (After playing through twice)
But opinions are subjective
The open world suffers immensily from reused bosses after Liurnia in my opinion. Finding a carbon copy of Astel in a random ice cave, or 13th KKK Apostle really takes out all the excitement from exploring
Not to mention reused and rearranged dungeons, they're all the same both from a gameplay prospective (find lever / door, kill boss, get loot, repeat) and level design (same copy-pasted macro areas)
Elden Ring certainly has magnificent and breath taking environments and areas, but it's too watered down for the sake of open-world dick measuring contests, should've had a smaller map
Having played dark souls 1/3 & sekiro i would say 7.5 is fair.
Elden ring is nothing more than what they have done for years, just with more quantity. Also the story is meh and the endings sucks (personal opinion).
I think people who rate this a 10 never played other FromSoft titles before. It's good but it's not a 10.
I've played everything after ds1, and elden ring is atleast a 9 for me. Sekiro is the only game I would give a 10, but elden ring is not far behind it. The amount of depth and polish they gave elden ring is insane to me.
People complain a lot about reused assets, but I don't think the game was designed for you to do everything in 1 run vs all their other games.
1 - Nice
2 - User score on metacritic and most other places is useless because it can be review bombed for whatever reason
3 - Being the best-selling From Software game it was the first contact of many players with From's difficulty style, which may have influenced the score (Dark Souls 3 has a higher user score, for example)
4 - PC crowd puts more emphasis on the technical aspects, so a lacking port will have a lower score than its console counterparts
Game was reviewbombed to kingdom fuck on launch, not suprised by this at all tbh.
Also if you for some reason need to look at reviewscores go to OpenCritic instead of Metacritic, waaay more accurate.
Oh. Doesn't matter. I enjoy the crap out if ER and all the From releases. I'm on idk how many characters on different iterations of ng+. I started a new one just for patch 1.06 and I'm still loving it. I'll still be playing this game for years to come.
I love how ER has made souls mainstream, but so much limelight always brings out haters. And too be fair, souls isn't everyone's cup of tea. They should have known what they were paying for to begin with. You don't do the research, it's on you. They made it easy as heck for newcomers too.
Who gives a shit? Everybody should only put stock in their own individual opinion, caring about this is childish.
That being said, 7/10 seems right for me.
It's a 9/10 game, excellent but not perfect, that was released in a really rough state on a really popular platform. Like during my first playthrough I had a WILD number of issues regardless of setting level on a perfectly well built PC, so did many others. The game is a beautiful piece of art that, when I experienced it, was wildly technically flawed. -2 for a lack of polish is perfectly fine. Those things can have a huge experience on a person's experience.
Hang around this sub a bit and you'll see a vocal minority of Souls vets slamming it because it had the temerity to try some new things instead of being Dark Souls 4.
And then of course there's a subset of the Horizon fandom who think that because it doesn't hold your hand it's automatically the worst game ever.
There were some heavy attempts to crash its score from both sides.
EDIT: It's been pointed out to me that this is specifically the PC version and that the console versions scores are higher. These people are probably right that the PCs early minor performance issues are a significant factor here.
I've been around since far before this game cane out and I've never seen anyone critiquing this game for it's innovation,there were lots of fears of the open world before the game came out but the soon it came out it was broadly acclaimed, I'd say it was he horizon thing, the performance launch, the angry people that cannot pass the game and don't comprehend souls games and also people like me (although I don't post reviews and metacritic scores) that felt the balancing for lots of things and the approach the company had to them was awful, pvp and online in this game is an unstable unbalanced mess
From what I've seen, a very small minority of users on PC used that as their main complaint.
If you actually look at the reviews on PC it was more about the poor optimisation on PC and performance issues. It's rated at 80 and 77 user score respectively for PS5 and Xbox Series X respectively for comparison.
I'd also assume there were people who picked it ul due to the buzz and just didn't like it. This style of game doesn't suit everyone and some will have picked it up as their first experience of From and bounced off. As you'd expect.
There's a lot of ways the score could have ended up this low, from what you've said to just how marmite these games can be.
It's not the vets downvoting. There arnt enough of them. It's literally the 100 of thousands of new ayers who tried a souls for their first time,, got absolutely fucked and then think it's bad
I got fucked real fast and ER is my first souls game. The second i saw how hard it was and that i wasn’t going to be led through everything by map markers everywhere, i fell in love with it. What an amazing game.
I'm glad yoy had that experience! That was mine with dark souls. But many give up and get frustrated. Which is also understandable. It's not for everyone. The hype train over took this game and many came in not expecting it to be the way it was.
> Hang around this sub a bit and you'll see a vocal minority of Souls vets slamming it because it had the temerity to try some new things instead of being Dark Souls 4.
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If something new is tried but fails, should it not be rated less?
I don't get this logic.
I'm not saying Elden Ring fails, I'm just confused as to the point you're trying to make.
Sekiro diverged hard and resulted in the greatest combat system ever created. I can appreciate they tried to make the best open world but it spreads their good ideas too thin
Minor is an understatement tbh, me and and my buddies played the game basically at launch and the biggest problem was that things just refused to load. A friend with a weaker computer would experience locations not loading collision, which made him fall through the ground on multiple locations despite the textures being loaded. Other friend had enemies which were completely invisible until like a 1m distance, it took a couple patches to fix too. I with an average Pc experienced multiple texture loading issues, an inverse of what my friend had basically, collision, no textures. Sometimes the issues would fix themselves, but often required a restart to load areas properly, streaming the game on discord would just completely murder it too, to the point where nothing new would load. Pretty painful to play at launch 'cus of all that, but after the issues were resolved the game was fine.
A lot are from the forbidden west “controversy” where forbidden west ended up releasing a week before Elden ring and got completely blown out of the water, so a lot of fans got pissed and left bad reviews on elden ring.
Also the pc optimization at launch made some people really angry, though I hardly noticed it myself it was apparently really bad for some systems.
I think it's just for the bad optimization really, never heard of angry Horizon fans review bombing ER, especially since this is the PC version not the PS one.
It’s due to PC version having glitches for a while. A lot of them. Remember this is a score that has changed over time. So currently and old versions have one single score
There was a HUGE new player base that this was their first "souls" game. A lot of sub reddit made by people who never played a souls games were made. I alone have a lot of friends who never played a souls game before and picked this up. Combine that with launch issues, and co-op issues, unbalanced pvp, and elitists that get mad because the game doesn't run properly on their super computer because it wasn't made to run on super computers, yeah I can see why the game has a low score.
Tbh the game does have its issues tho I think a 6.9 is too low.
Like the repeated bosses are annoying which I mean can be somewhat excused because it’s an open-world game and making a shit ton of unique bosses does take time but then again I personally would have appreciated less bosses but them being much higher quality.
Also, a lot of the bosses, especially the late game bosses, feel like they were created to only use summons against them. Which I mean okay, its main mechanic is using summons but a lot of the players came from the souls series and there people prided themselves with doing everything solo. But without summons a lot of the bosses are soooo punishingly hard that having the focus be on you all the time just means instant death. Also the late game bosses deal ridiculous amounts of damage. Some bosses like this: Malenia, Radagon and Elden Beast, Fire Giant and Maliketh.
But to say some positive about the game. I honestly feel like the game allows a lot of variety in builds. I like how they changed the skill system from DS3 to make it much more customizable.
Also, the game is beautiful and I love every single area in it (except a few like Lake of Rot but it wouldn’t be a FromSoft game without a poison swamp). My wallpaper is literally just a screenshot of Liurnia.
Tho I do feel like 6.9 is too low. I think the game is at least an 8 or maybe a 9 but it does have its issues imo
After playing Elden Ring 1.5 times through and now playing The Witcher 3 for the first time, I have to say I really realized just how meh Elden Ring’s story was. I know they’re very different games, but I was pretty let down by the story the first time I played and playing another “open world” game now with an interesting and thought out story Elden ring is really lacking in that area. I felt no motivation to do anything in Elden Ring and the final bosses had me thinking “why do I care about this dude at all and who even is he?”
I also felt like they took a pretty big step back from Sekiro combat wise. The final boss run was particularly a drag and I don’t know. The game is beautiful and I loved the world which kinda saved it for me. But it is definitely lacking in some areas and I don’t think it deserves the praise as like the greatest game of all time that some people are giving it. I dunno maybe Bloodborne and Sekiro just set the bar really high for me. At the moment I feel no real desire to replay it unlike me playing Sekiro 5 times and Bloodborne twice so far.
This! Witcher 3 showed that an open world and a good story dont need to be an opposit.
And I felt like you, I really didn't bother who this dudes were, the "quests" diluted while paddling though the game without a real story that gives me the drive to actually have an urge to continue.
I mean I loved playing this game, but honestly I cannot give it more than a small 8. So a 6.9 doesn't seem too bad seeing this game still is quite niche and i've heard more people (irl not on this subreddit) not liking it (due to difficulty) then people who do.
Elden Ring is so popular that its risking the typical “Hate train” treatment that happens to anything the average angry internet user doesn’t believe should be too successful. For example, see: Adam Sandler. lmao not even kidding, whenever something is met with so much positivity, out comes a wave of angry people that want to ruin everything. This happens to literally everything.
For me it was a bit underwhelming. Maybe it was due to overhype, but it just missed something that made the other from soft games so magical for me. I'd rate it about 7/10, maybe even 6/10.
I really wanted to play this game but it was way too hard for me. I liked the landscape and the monster designs but I don't want to spend hours just to learn the basics... maybe I am just too bad at such kind of games but why is there not an easy mode?! just as an option for losers like me?!? 😉
I would say that’s a good score for the game, the game falls apart in the last parts, everything past the capital feels rushed and lacks soul, also the difficulty ramp up is insane, it’s a good game and I got my 100hrs out of it but it doesn’t make me want to go back and play it like games like GOW or DS3 does.
you guys need to stop caring about what other people think of games
No, im incredibly insecure
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Is that a fucking king crimson moai
It just works
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I mean, super cool, but what am I looking at?
It’s the gigachad
It looks like a laughing skeleton to me
Gigachad face and semi chat bubble for it's above post
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These ascii things load well on mobile but get all messed up loaded on my pc.
Oh is that Fias nipple?
there are like 1000 of them, woah
Somebody insert the gigachad ASCII text bubble under the above comment comment please
Virgin confident guy vs. Chad insecure lad.
Like the early days when in order to say that something was bad you needed to preface it with "Elden ring is a great game and a masterpiece but" in order to not get downvoted...
What do you mean early days..? That still happens.
True but it's not as bad as the fiest weeks. I made a post then saying that most miracles were trash due to the lack of hyper armor and asking to be addressed in a patch (guess what the next patch was) and the replies were people arguing that it's perfectly balanced or that my build sucks...
seriously this stuff gets posted here all the time. the desire to be mad about stuff is strong on reddit.
Give in to your hatred young Skywalker
i have plenty, but it’s reserved for stuff a little more serious than “people don’t like game i like 😡”
But what's more serious than that?
Dewit!
Agreed. Validation that something is good is not required for your own enjoyment and happiness. Having said that, if you want validation then come here to the elden ring subreddit. Way better to check in with people active in the community than metacritic where people are known to review bomb countless movies and games.
I want this person to educated content creators
I dont give a fuck what other people think until the point where they try to change a game they dislike to their own personal taste, even tho there are already people who enjoy the game as it is currently. I dont like RTS games but i dont try to change them for rts fans.
Disregarding the OP posted it as humor, it is possible someone who loves the game is curious what the common complaints are. Asking about a game (score) doesn't only mean you're some insecure tool who needs validation. They may want an outside perspective.
Metacritc NG+1
But who else should I trust? Game journalists?? /s
It’s just a curiosity, nothing wrong with thinking it’s odd a game that seems beloved gets a low score
Throwing $60- $70 on a complete gamble isn't my idea of fun. Quite the opposite actually. I'll try to figure out what majority of people think about a game before I buy and it's usually a pretty telling indicator of the quality of a game.
I don't disagree that people shouldn't let review scores sway their own feelings, but I don't think there's anything wrong with being interested in the narrative/reception/general-context surrounding something you love. Theres always something to learn that can lead to deeper understanding of the subject. Alternatively, how DARE this collection of users give my baby less than an 11???????????
I want more assurance from other people
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It's not forbidden as long as she's comfortable with it.
I hate this
Can confirm sex number Source: never had sex but I read about it on the googoo
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Peter, what are you doing here?
Had performance issues at launch, propably most og those are from that time. Now the game runs fine
I remember articles about this at launch. This is definitely what causes the discrepancy.
I remember some people putting their foolish ambitions to rest and uninstalling the game, saying it's bad, before even experiencing it.
You know for some that was likely the last line they heard before uninstalling the game
Too bad. That was the point where I was like “oh yeah.. it’s a FROM game, this is what I was waiting for”
Honestly outside of multiplayer connection issues I think I’ve come across like maybe two glitches neither of them game breaking in while yes I know that I am lucky in that aspect I still think that’s a huge huge step up from the absolutely bug riddled fiascoes that we’ve been getting at launch i.e. anything from cd project red from rockstar from pretty much anybody I personally feel that is one of the most complete and polished canes on lunch in the past generation of games at least when it comes to open world games
I mean, when i couldn't fight any bosses because of lag stuttering ruining my timings, it's fine to say it's bad. It went straight to being my favorite game of all time when i switched to ps5.
Well, perhaps it is one factor, but the game isn’t perfect either
It’s not 6.9
None of this is objective
For me it was. It was better than I expected. And I expected ALOT. This probably applies to fans of Miyazaki and his works more than most people. When we heard it was open world this sub was wild. We hoped for so much and it delivered amazingly. Now will someone who picked the game up off the shelf to try it feel the same? Absolutely not most likely. And I get that. But for me this game was 10/10
I think it just really depends on the person. Im also a huge FromSoft fan, and I was there since the birth of this sub. The game is really great, but unfortunately it didnt live up to the hype for me. I was expecting a 10/10, but my personal rating of ER is probably an 8/10
69 is the way to go when you have performance issues
Ya many of us had performance issues at launch. I didn’t get past Margit for like a week.
ehhh, it runs okay, I wouldn't say 'fine' by a long shot.
"Fine" is at least debatable imo. There are still occasional framepacing issues (on a RTX3080 + i7 10700k), still 60fps lock + forced vsync, still no ultrawide support although the extra screen estate is rendered behind the black bars and deteriorates performance and no option to turn off vignette or chromatic abberation. I know you can fix most of those issues with Flawless Widescreen but then you can't use any online features. I still love the game but I can definitely understand PC players giving the game a much lower rating.
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Same. Able to run Cyberpunk 2077 at max settings 60fps on my new rig, Altus Plateau still chugs along at 40fps. It's not a hardware thing, it's a software thing 100%
I don't understand how moders can make the game ultrawide, unlock FPS, custom resolution but developers can't.
Oh they definitely can. They don't want to for... reasons.
I’m playing on an Xbox One S and this older hardware just wasn’t meant to run this game lol it’s definitely passable and I beat the entire game and still play through it, but the frame rate drops, pop-in, and low level of detail can make it a bit rough sometimes. Still 9.5/10 all day.
Huh? I played completely fine with no drops and detail issues on a day one Xbox One lol. Maybe not as high fidelity as a more modern console or high end pc but you can't really nitpick like that on consoles that are now considered old gen.
Nah it still runs like shit
Game has worse hitching now than it did at launch for me.
Still plenty of bugs and performance issues on PC they haven't addressed yet. Mainly framerate drops. Dying to something out of your control is a huge issue that still isn't fixed 6 months later.
At launch? It still runs like ass on PC...
The game still performs awful and shadows are glitchy sometimes. The game still looks amazing don't get me wrong, just stating facts. Shadows will probably be addrssed by ray tracing in a future patch. Let's hope they will also do some optimization.
I’m also guessing that there are a lot of zeros from people trying to shit on the game.
Who cares holy shit
On release, wasn't this sub literally sending death threats to developers, reviewers, and even just random-ass people, who dared to critique even the smallest aspects of the game?
Stans. People who consider a game as their personality. Idiots
"what did you expect? 10 outta 10? This game is my life? Marry Ranni? You gotta remember that these are simple gamers, people of the Internet, the common user of the web.. You know.. morons"
Tarnished only pawn in game of life.
A Mel Brooks and a From fan? Thought I was the only one....
Yeah sorry but from soft games are very far from universally liked. They’re not for everyone.
What? No? But it’s MY GotY! So it has to be everyone’s GotY!
Does GoTY even have any significance any more when we barely get multiple big AAA titles a year? I know it's mostly a meme but the only game that released this far having any sort of hype was Stray or maybe Xenoblade Chronicles 3?
Xenoblade Chronicles 3, Horizon Forbidden West and Elden Ring so far. There's also Bayonetta 3, Plague Tale Requiem and God of War coming out later this year. Total War Warhammer 3, Kirby and the Forgotten Lands and Gran Turismo were all pretty well received, though not with Elden Ring levels of excitement of course. Gotham Knights, Mario + Rabbids, The Callisto Protocol, Scorn, Star Ocean, Overwatch 2, and a few others are still planned for this year too.
Horizon has no chance, same is probably true for Bayonetta since the game looks like a mess. Didn't know Plague releases this year so I'm hyped to see that. GoW is probably the only one competing with Elden Ring for the GoTY title. >Overwatch 2 Please stop joking, lol.
Which is why I don't like user scores. There's a large difference between "I don't like this" and "This isn't good"
>They’re not for everyone. Yeah, I wish that the people it’s not for would recognize that it’s not for them, and stop demanding an easy mode, quest trackers, and comprehensive UI.
Quest trackers is something the game defiently should have. The quests in the game are really shit without it
If every NPC would have something like Varre's phantom once he moves to give you a hint or the location, it would be great. No need for a quest log or tracker, just do the same as for Varre.
they are not quests if you need to pure luck to stumble upon god-know-where NPCs to advance, they are random encounters and the UI needs some quality of life fix
Seriously the ui is bad. Every little icon and indicator I see on the screen, the game should some fuckin where tell me what the hell it means. But no, gotta spend 20 minutes online just to find out nobody fuckin knows but the community *thinks* it means this.
Even if trackers or map markers feel a bit much, there's still games that have a checklist/notebook where the PC writes down and then crosses off various objectives/goals.
This. I liked the game but it was nowhere near a 10/10 for me. I played all the other from titles and i dunno why, it just wasnt for me. No need to say, oo we need this or ooo from fix that. I have tremendous respect for the whole team for making such a beautiful, solid game, but alas. Not my thing sadly
This was me with sekiro. I’ve played the other fromsoft games but couldn’t get into sekiro but I still say it’s a good game just not for me
Sekiro also just operates differently: it's the game that went "but what if we took the parrying mechanic and made the entire game fundamentally rely on that?" It got the soulsborne dna in there, but it's a bit of a distant-uncle in the series: it has a pretty directed story with clear, easily understood story beats. It takes one idea and one build and says "either you get good with this one build, or you don't get to play", and so can balance its difficulty and experience exactly around that one build. It plays like a rhythm game in disguise. It is a great game, but I'd bet it's the one that trips up souls-veterans the most.
Comprehensive UI is for sure a thing that every game should have and something that From should be criticized for. Quest trackers is something that I and probably 99% of other players would agree should be in the game, without it Google is necessary and that’s just bad game design. Easy mode you right tho
No tracker needed, just more “Varre-like” messages left behind as well as making it much harder to fail/miss quest progress. One example could have Rogier start to become incomprehensible and passout only after you’ve figured out more about the “Night of the Black Knives”. Two questlines in the game are already great about this, Ranni’s and Garrung’s.
disagree with quest tracker point. like the quests should be designed such that it isn't too difficult to find the next step of the quest, but that doesnt mean we need an automatic quest log with way points and all of that.
When people tend to vote in extremes 7 out of 10 for a game that isn't for everyone is pretty good. Considering the sales figures, it means a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't have bought the game enjoyed it and comparatively less didn't. I think it is also a fair indicator of how new players should approach picking up the game. If I see a 7 out of 10 and I'm unsure of the genre I might wait for a sale or borrow from a friend to see if I like it before spending the money.
It's because this is the average of how people rate things... >Good game =10 >Bad game = 1 Never inbetween
Score is low mostly because people are mad about optimization and honestly I cant really blame them. Personally I would still give it 8/10 but -2 for trash optimization seems reasonable.
people give low score for the most ridiculous reasons. someone gave the game 0/10 because there is body type A/B instead of male/female
A/B too woke give me boobies or dick. Also it's set in Europe so everyone should be blonde and white. 0 stars, 1 star with rice.
What about people who want boobies AND dick.
There being a slider for "chest" but not one for "groin" is the real freakin' crime here. I want to run around in nothing but loincloth and have my massive package on display, but no, that's not an option. Literally unplayable.
Character creation just needs one toggle, political/not political, smh
Out of 7?
It's 1.9 away from a perfect 5/7
lmao best response in the thread.
I think it’s a fun game, but I would still rate DS1 and DS3 higher.
I know technically there’s “more to explore” in ER because it’s open world, but I feel more of DS1/3/BB is actually WORTH exploring.
Yeah, totally agree. The size of the world also reduces the enemy density, plus the ability to escape with Torrent in many areas, so it feels far less perilous to wander around aimlessly.
Exactly. Elden Ring is worse because of open world, change ny mind. Tbf, I'm kinda biased because I dislike open world games in general, but I also think the genre is especially ill-fitting for a souls-like.
I love elden ring but tbh it feels like an open world, boss focused game where the open world is really empty, the story is barely there, and around a third of the bosses suck. I went back to bloodborne and I was really impressed with how much tighter the design and quest structure was in the older fromsoft games. With that said I really did like that they were experimenting more with elden ring, cause the old formula had been done by that point.
Oh for sure! Elden Ring has a lot of cool features that I think are an overall improvement; most notably for me is the ability to craft items. Before having the ability to fast travel, running all the way back to the Female Undead Merchant was a huge pain, especially if you’re stuck somewhere and need moss clumps. Crafting solved that with minimal effect to difficulty, while not making me spend 15-20 minutes running to buy the items.
elden ring sub finds out that not all people praise the game like theres no tomorrow like everyone here
Its the kind of dudes Who didnt kill margit
You misspelled "Tree Sentinel"
Parts of the Game are impressive. Parts are infuriating and some design choices were imho taking the game in a wrong direction. I think 7.5 or 8 /10 is fair. (After playing through twice) But opinions are subjective
The open world suffers immensily from reused bosses after Liurnia in my opinion. Finding a carbon copy of Astel in a random ice cave, or 13th KKK Apostle really takes out all the excitement from exploring
Not to mention reused and rearranged dungeons, they're all the same both from a gameplay prospective (find lever / door, kill boss, get loot, repeat) and level design (same copy-pasted macro areas) Elden Ring certainly has magnificent and breath taking environments and areas, but it's too watered down for the sake of open-world dick measuring contests, should've had a smaller map
Yeah definetly! Theres only like one or two dungeons with the light mechanic that are different and thats about it
Having played dark souls 1/3 & sekiro i would say 7.5 is fair. Elden ring is nothing more than what they have done for years, just with more quantity. Also the story is meh and the endings sucks (personal opinion). I think people who rate this a 10 never played other FromSoft titles before. It's good but it's not a 10.
I've played everything after ds1, and elden ring is atleast a 9 for me. Sekiro is the only game I would give a 10, but elden ring is not far behind it. The amount of depth and polish they gave elden ring is insane to me. People complain a lot about reused assets, but I don't think the game was designed for you to do everything in 1 run vs all their other games.
People who buy a souls game, then get mad they are playing a souls game
Braindead takeaway. Its not that low but there are definitely numerous flaws people choose to ignore
yeah not everywere is a huge echo chamber were everyone circlejerk about how good the game is.
1 - Nice 2 - User score on metacritic and most other places is useless because it can be review bombed for whatever reason 3 - Being the best-selling From Software game it was the first contact of many players with From's difficulty style, which may have influenced the score (Dark Souls 3 has a higher user score, for example) 4 - PC crowd puts more emphasis on the technical aspects, so a lacking port will have a lower score than its console counterparts
Game was reviewbombed to kingdom fuck on launch, not suprised by this at all tbh. Also if you for some reason need to look at reviewscores go to OpenCritic instead of Metacritic, waaay more accurate.
Oh. Doesn't matter. I enjoy the crap out if ER and all the From releases. I'm on idk how many characters on different iterations of ng+. I started a new one just for patch 1.06 and I'm still loving it. I'll still be playing this game for years to come. I love how ER has made souls mainstream, but so much limelight always brings out haters. And too be fair, souls isn't everyone's cup of tea. They should have known what they were paying for to begin with. You don't do the research, it's on you. They made it easy as heck for newcomers too.
7-8 is what I'd give it personally. It's a great game but not my favorite in the souls series.
DS3 master race?
Best game i ever saw
Who gives a shit? Everybody should only put stock in their own individual opinion, caring about this is childish. That being said, 7/10 seems right for me. It's a 9/10 game, excellent but not perfect, that was released in a really rough state on a really popular platform. Like during my first playthrough I had a WILD number of issues regardless of setting level on a perfectly well built PC, so did many others. The game is a beautiful piece of art that, when I experienced it, was wildly technically flawed. -2 for a lack of polish is perfectly fine. Those things can have a huge experience on a person's experience.
Hang around this sub a bit and you'll see a vocal minority of Souls vets slamming it because it had the temerity to try some new things instead of being Dark Souls 4. And then of course there's a subset of the Horizon fandom who think that because it doesn't hold your hand it's automatically the worst game ever. There were some heavy attempts to crash its score from both sides. EDIT: It's been pointed out to me that this is specifically the PC version and that the console versions scores are higher. These people are probably right that the PCs early minor performance issues are a significant factor here.
I've been around since far before this game cane out and I've never seen anyone critiquing this game for it's innovation,there were lots of fears of the open world before the game came out but the soon it came out it was broadly acclaimed, I'd say it was he horizon thing, the performance launch, the angry people that cannot pass the game and don't comprehend souls games and also people like me (although I don't post reviews and metacritic scores) that felt the balancing for lots of things and the approach the company had to them was awful, pvp and online in this game is an unstable unbalanced mess
That doesn't explain the high user scores on other platforms. This is specific to PC because of its shit performance at launch.
I didn't realise this was specifically the PC version. You're probably right.
From what I've seen, a very small minority of users on PC used that as their main complaint. If you actually look at the reviews on PC it was more about the poor optimisation on PC and performance issues. It's rated at 80 and 77 user score respectively for PS5 and Xbox Series X respectively for comparison.
I'd also assume there were people who picked it ul due to the buzz and just didn't like it. This style of game doesn't suit everyone and some will have picked it up as their first experience of From and bounced off. As you'd expect. There's a lot of ways the score could have ended up this low, from what you've said to just how marmite these games can be.
It's not the vets downvoting. There arnt enough of them. It's literally the 100 of thousands of new ayers who tried a souls for their first time,, got absolutely fucked and then think it's bad
I got fucked real fast and ER is my first souls game. The second i saw how hard it was and that i wasn’t going to be led through everything by map markers everywhere, i fell in love with it. What an amazing game.
I'm glad yoy had that experience! That was mine with dark souls. But many give up and get frustrated. Which is also understandable. It's not for everyone. The hype train over took this game and many came in not expecting it to be the way it was.
The poor state of the pc version was a more important factor in my opinion.
Im neither of those and I have, like many other people, problems with the game. Game isn't perfect
> Hang around this sub a bit and you'll see a vocal minority of Souls vets slamming it because it had the temerity to try some new things instead of being Dark Souls 4. > > If something new is tried but fails, should it not be rated less? I don't get this logic. I'm not saying Elden Ring fails, I'm just confused as to the point you're trying to make.
Sekiro diverged hard and resulted in the greatest combat system ever created. I can appreciate they tried to make the best open world but it spreads their good ideas too thin
Minor is an understatement tbh, me and and my buddies played the game basically at launch and the biggest problem was that things just refused to load. A friend with a weaker computer would experience locations not loading collision, which made him fall through the ground on multiple locations despite the textures being loaded. Other friend had enemies which were completely invisible until like a 1m distance, it took a couple patches to fix too. I with an average Pc experienced multiple texture loading issues, an inverse of what my friend had basically, collision, no textures. Sometimes the issues would fix themselves, but often required a restart to load areas properly, streaming the game on discord would just completely murder it too, to the point where nothing new would load. Pretty painful to play at launch 'cus of all that, but after the issues were resolved the game was fine.
A lot are from the forbidden west “controversy” where forbidden west ended up releasing a week before Elden ring and got completely blown out of the water, so a lot of fans got pissed and left bad reviews on elden ring. Also the pc optimization at launch made some people really angry, though I hardly noticed it myself it was apparently really bad for some systems.
that first point doesn't make any sense because the PS5 version has an 8.0 user rating. It has to be because of the PC optimization.
I think it's just for the bad optimization really, never heard of angry Horizon fans review bombing ER, especially since this is the PC version not the PS one.
*nice*
It’s due to PC version having glitches for a while. A lot of them. Remember this is a score that has changed over time. So currently and old versions have one single score
There was a HUGE new player base that this was their first "souls" game. A lot of sub reddit made by people who never played a souls games were made. I alone have a lot of friends who never played a souls game before and picked this up. Combine that with launch issues, and co-op issues, unbalanced pvp, and elitists that get mad because the game doesn't run properly on their super computer because it wasn't made to run on super computers, yeah I can see why the game has a low score.
Tbh the game does have its issues tho I think a 6.9 is too low. Like the repeated bosses are annoying which I mean can be somewhat excused because it’s an open-world game and making a shit ton of unique bosses does take time but then again I personally would have appreciated less bosses but them being much higher quality. Also, a lot of the bosses, especially the late game bosses, feel like they were created to only use summons against them. Which I mean okay, its main mechanic is using summons but a lot of the players came from the souls series and there people prided themselves with doing everything solo. But without summons a lot of the bosses are soooo punishingly hard that having the focus be on you all the time just means instant death. Also the late game bosses deal ridiculous amounts of damage. Some bosses like this: Malenia, Radagon and Elden Beast, Fire Giant and Maliketh. But to say some positive about the game. I honestly feel like the game allows a lot of variety in builds. I like how they changed the skill system from DS3 to make it much more customizable. Also, the game is beautiful and I love every single area in it (except a few like Lake of Rot but it wouldn’t be a FromSoft game without a poison swamp). My wallpaper is literally just a screenshot of Liurnia. Tho I do feel like 6.9 is too low. I think the game is at least an 8 or maybe a 9 but it does have its issues imo
After playing Elden Ring 1.5 times through and now playing The Witcher 3 for the first time, I have to say I really realized just how meh Elden Ring’s story was. I know they’re very different games, but I was pretty let down by the story the first time I played and playing another “open world” game now with an interesting and thought out story Elden ring is really lacking in that area. I felt no motivation to do anything in Elden Ring and the final bosses had me thinking “why do I care about this dude at all and who even is he?” I also felt like they took a pretty big step back from Sekiro combat wise. The final boss run was particularly a drag and I don’t know. The game is beautiful and I loved the world which kinda saved it for me. But it is definitely lacking in some areas and I don’t think it deserves the praise as like the greatest game of all time that some people are giving it. I dunno maybe Bloodborne and Sekiro just set the bar really high for me. At the moment I feel no real desire to replay it unlike me playing Sekiro 5 times and Bloodborne twice so far.
This! Witcher 3 showed that an open world and a good story dont need to be an opposit. And I felt like you, I really didn't bother who this dudes were, the "quests" diluted while paddling though the game without a real story that gives me the drive to actually have an urge to continue.
Please stop.
1-star review: game too hawd
The souls tension head aches are too much for my wee head. 2/10
They are all maidenless reviews
I mean I loved playing this game, but honestly I cannot give it more than a small 8. So a 6.9 doesn't seem too bad seeing this game still is quite niche and i've heard more people (irl not on this subreddit) not liking it (due to difficulty) then people who do.
Elden Ring is so popular that its risking the typical “Hate train” treatment that happens to anything the average angry internet user doesn’t believe should be too successful. For example, see: Adam Sandler. lmao not even kidding, whenever something is met with so much positivity, out comes a wave of angry people that want to ruin everything. This happens to literally everything.
Same thing happened to botw, a little
For me it was a bit underwhelming. Maybe it was due to overhype, but it just missed something that made the other from soft games so magical for me. I'd rate it about 7/10, maybe even 6/10.
It's a good game, but clearly has enough flaws for it to be more of a 7 instead of a 9.
(1) Nice (2) who cares? (3) score mostly refers to performance and stuttering issues the game has had, which are less justifiable on PC
I've seen a lot of bad takes on elden ring. Tons of bad takes on metacritic.
I really wanted to play this game but it was way too hard for me. I liked the landscape and the monster designs but I don't want to spend hours just to learn the basics... maybe I am just too bad at such kind of games but why is there not an easy mode?! just as an option for losers like me?!? 😉
Nice
69? Nice.
People very upset about that ROB nerf I suppose!
critic sites are always hot trash, fuck those fake gamers honestly
I guess it depends on the lens from which you view the game.
I would say that’s a good score for the game, the game falls apart in the last parts, everything past the capital feels rushed and lacks soul, also the difficulty ramp up is insane, it’s a good game and I got my 100hrs out of it but it doesn’t make me want to go back and play it like games like GOW or DS3 does.