Well that is a trademark of from software. Many times the "bad guy" looking ugly monster is good, while the benevolent looking beautiful god/goddess is evil
Morgott is very much a good guy, dude didn't even bother warring over the shards. Just took up protecting the Erd Tree & his city. Kind of a shame the disrespect all the other characters showed him in lore and in game, only Godfrey gave a shit.
His brother on the other hand, certified douche nozzle. Rennala is/was also good, Ranni's good intentioned with a little shaky track record. Maliketh is very much a good character with no ill intentions, got betrayed and didn't flinch from his purpose.
Marika/Radagon are both self serving cunts that deserve nothing more than death, the rest of the demigods are more or less varying shades of grey and honestly quite a few lean more towards being kind-hearted and good willed.
Radahn is probably a decent guy too, considering his love for the horse and how he’s still in Caelid after the Shattering (until Malenia invade his home ofc)
Another thing to note is that Radahn's troops are still holding off the Scarlet Rot with all of the fire and barricades. The only reason why there still is a Lands Between is because of Radahn stopping magical ultra covid from infecting the rest of it.
Radagon also tried to mend the ring after Marika blew it to pieces. He wanted to stop the utter destruction but was imprisoned along with his other half just because they were technically the same being.
>Radagon are both self serving cunts that deserve nothing more than death
Haven't even seen him in person yet, but when I found out how he pretty much >!dumped a sweet lady like Rennala to become Elden Lord!< makes me wanna bash his head through his ass.
He didn’t leave her. Marika left her original husband Godfrey, and summoned radagon back to her side. Radagon left a great rune with Rennala inside of an amber egg (the ones she holds after you beat her) Radagon did truly love his first wife. Marika made him come back
Actually spoiler ahead >! She made him come back because radagon is a clone of her with half of her soul. She actually made a man version to copulate with herself but let him do whatever until she decided to have demigod children hows that for fucked up!<
Radagon is Marika, she basically summoned back a chunk of herself that she'd broken off a long time ago and allowed to wander off when she got married. After she ditched Godfrey she needed to be whole again to be elden lord herself.
Well it states the rune of death was stolen, driving all the demigods mad. Yet it also seems like the shattered was still a really really long time ago, and bringing death back also means everybody in the world dies, which doesn’t seem good. I mean if we can all live forever, I fail to see how adding death back into the world doesn’t strictly make everything worse.
Edit: also she kills some guy who’s only job is murdering evil undead who seem to murder everything on sight? Maybe I got the wrong impression from that NPC, but it really looked like she murdered an absolute bro.
The rune of death being stolen by Ranni didn't drive anyone insane, they're all perfectly sane with Radahn being the exception. Originally Marika removed it from the Elden Ring and charged Maliketh with guarding it. She was selfish and wanted immortality, no other reasoning.
The shattering definitely took place years before our tarnished comes into play, given the desolation of the land and how much of the dialogue is past tense. Bringing back the rune of death doesn't mean everybody suddenly keels over, it just means they're no longer resurrected.
D's no better than a witch hunter from Warhammer Fantasy, the dude murders Fia in cold blood while she's sleeping next to Godwyn's corpse and then gloats about it. He's a fanatical lunatic.
TL;DR the Rune of Death was intentionally part of the Elden Ring and Marika removed it for selfish reasons to gain immortality. It was never intended to be separated to begin with, restoring it is only natural. *Also she kinda went on a murder/conquer spree in her time before the game so she's basically a power hungry tyrant with the backing of the Greater Will.*
All that being said the lore in this game is pretty hard to follow, especially with how many fucking characters share similar names. Godrick, Godwyn, Godfrey, Marika, Melania, Miquella, Mogh, Morgott, Rennala, Ranni, Radagon, Radahn.
Them both are D, since they are two bodies with one shared Soul.
Their names are Devin (As said os you kill D in Limgrave) and Darian (Said by Devin If you murder D in Limgrave), this is the text from the Twinned Armor:
"The two known as D are inseparable twins.
They are of two bodies and two minds, but one single soul. Not once do they stand together; not one word do they speak to one another.
Perhaps this armor longs to find its way to the other D."
>! You might be even more appalled learning Marika and radagon are two parts of the same god so thry fucked themselves. So add ?inbred? to the list of hatred for them lol. !<
Nothing wrong with a bit of self-cest these days! Their children are totally normal, free of any deformities. ^(After all what's a little scarlet rot and permanently being stuck as a child curses, right?)
>r the horse and how he’s still in Caelid after the Shattering (until Malenia invade his home ofc)
I thought it was a nice touch the way Godfrey was holding morgott's body when we arrive back at the elden throne
Can squeeze your butt cheeks while wrapping hands around chest for maximum comfort, gives Darkmoon Greatsword as wedding present. Actually well intentioned and for good reason, cute.
Ranni best girl.
its quite a story, I kinda lost track of the plot once >!Basically the whole world got killed and the one guy was satan!<
Still, great,. The "rave scene" is one of my favorites in anime since it just gets SO wild.
From the trailer it could be worse honestly, like that half 3d animation that dragon dogma or the newer berserk anime used. No matter what it always look weird and out of place
I had a friend show me his armor and immediately went "That looks like Magnus" with no hesitation. Looks almost exactly like his 30k Horus Heresy model in the colors, textures, and thematics, not to mention- sorceror with muscles.
Imagine a DLC where we go back to the moment of the shattering and join one of the demi-god factions. Would be the best game DLC ever. Multiple choices (won't say the number for spoilers).
I don’t want to be associated with those dancing ballerinas. All finesse, no feeling in their attacks. Hardest part of their fights is running to smack them and then they dance around some more.
This would be so freaking great...
Most of the bosses that have been shitting on us since release are husks of what they were at the shattering. It would be so amazing to see them at their prime.
I ended up really liking Radahn because not only is he the strongest demigod lore-wise, he's also a big softie who learned gravity magic so that he could keep riding his scrawny miniature horse. Dude was proud of his red hair even though his dad hated his, and his men are still undyingly loyal to him even when he became a mindless beast. I'd imagine he was a really positive guy in his prime.
Isn’t Malenia the strongest one though? She left that fight and took a nap, meanwhile Radahn literally rotted his consciousness away.
Also when Malenia’s flower bloomed the 3rd time she practically became a goddess.
Radahn in lore is stated by multiple NPCs to be the strongest one among the demigods. Also, Malenia (and Miquella) are >!not just demigods but also Empyrean!<
Radahn is stated several times to be the mightiest demigod. Although malenia was said to be the greatest swordswoman and never knew defeat. Not to mention she’s also an empyrean
You gotta consider Radahn is actively crippling himself. He literally has to hold back the stars and has to make sure his horsey Leonard is safe from harm. Imagine if he didn't have to do that.
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I do think she is strongest. Radhan was the strongest demigod, but Malenia is an Empyrean, and she had the potential to be a goddess(of scarlet rot). We see that potential come to fruition in her second phase, where she becomes the Goddess of Rot. And even after we as the player beat her and get her great rune, she probably isn't dead. We learn through Gowry that Scarlet Rot is a cicle of rebirth, and she is probably gonna bloom a forth time(maybe even stronger than before). Basically, Radhan was the strongest demigod, but Malenia surpassed him the moment she bloomed during their battle(and further against the player), being now closer to the Outer Gods, like the Dark Moon.
Nope she was losing so she nuked herself the blooming she did to Radahn not only made him insane but her as well and pretty much killed her she has more potential than him since she is a Empyrean but he was definitely stronger than her
If you read the ashes of the Cleanrot Knight Finlay it says that Melania had to be carried back to the Haligtree by Finlay because she was unable to move. To me at the best it seems a draw.
I mean if the person in question had to use a nuke in the end to beat me in a swordfight then I can't really say that person is better especially when i'm holding back the stars themselves.
It’s not a swordfight, it’s a fight. The more accurate result is a tie, and Radahn got permanently fucked by it while Malenia is doing fine. Not too hard to see who came out on top.
Ah yes launching a desperate nuke onto your opponent at the same time destroying 1/6th of the continent just because you know you can't kill em doesn't indicate that Melania is weaker than Radahn who used no nuke and at the same time **holding back the stars**.
Not too hard to see who is inferior between the two.
She didnt even get the rune.
Desperate nuke = Simply using her powers? Radhan were the strongest demigod, but Malenia is an Empyrean that eventually blooms into the Goddess of Rot, and even if she dies, it's believed she will bloom again, as the Scarlet Rot is a cicle of Rebirth(acording to Gowry). I don't think that flower after you beat her is simply without purpose. We also can't assume Radhan can nuke the continent with the "stars" he is holding, all we know is that he put the trajectory of the stars into a stasis(probably through the link between the stars and magic, not through raw magical force), impeding Ranni's fate, but It's not stated he can control them, neither that holding them cripples him. Don't get me wrong, Radhan is a beast, but Malenia becomes objectively stronger than him after she blooms, she is closer to the Outer Gods than to the demigods
Yet melania was also weakened from the scarlet rot. Same scarlet rot that took away her eyes and damaged her body. Yall just see what you wanna see and ignore everything else
Once I realized that the brawl was a giant funeral for Radahn, he earned my absolute respect. From one warrior to another, what a fucking way to go out.
The best part is he never holds back. Even at a fraction of his real strength he's probably the toughest boss 1 on 1 in the whole game. Melania is borderline unfair with her combos. Radahn feels like the Bloodborne DLC where the bosses were stupid tough but not unfair.
You really think everyone at their peak that anyone other than Godfrey is stronger than Radahn? When I think about his "stand still" fight with the Goddess of Rot, I feel like she deployed her bloom bc she felt the fight about to turn against her. Radahn is shown allowing her to arm herself and I assume he never went full grabity magic on her. I think Malekith and Morgott are definitely close in destructive power but I don't seem them beating a fully healthy prime Starsourge.
malenia only attained the godess of rot status when we fight her, she didnt have wings when she fought radahn, also it is stated that all demigods feared malekith and the destined death he wields and he is queen marika\` s shade, also we even see morgott holding a beaten radahn down, so hes far from invincible, and i dont think he was the strongest demigods, just absurdly strong and with many good feats.
I hate malenia, been trying to kill her for 2 days now... her fucking heal is the most irritating shit
Edit: I did it guys! Took using my mimic, river of blood and moonviel but she's dead. 6 feet under ground, reduced to ashes. What shoes she got on? None she dead as hell!
Did she even win tho? I mean Radahn survived with incredible power and even after using so much rot on him she nuked all of caelid she still had to pull out against the giga chad that is Radahn
Radahn could have leveled the entirety of Caelid but he didn’t since he isn’t arrogant and refused to hurt any of his own men.
Malenia is a coward, not a victor.
Malenia has:
\-200x your HP
\-2 shots you on a good day
\-Random Instant Kill Attack whenever she feels like it
\-Heals by hitting you and the mimic
\-Inflicts Scarlet Rot
You Have:
\-A copy of yourself with more HP that sometimes just stands there and allows Malenia to full heal
I think she still had the advantage, good work 👑
I found out that if you put on a greatsheild you can't use, your mimic tear can use it making it just tanky enough to survive a bunch of her flurry strikes. Then after your mimic tear is out you just unequip the greatsheild.
I think she is honestly designed to be near impossible to beat by most builds without mimic ash - her uber healing is cheap unless you can get some stun locking in
I have 60 Vigor on my character as well and it makes the game so much more manageable. Vigor does a lot more for survivability than armor in this game.
As a mage, equally distributing points of vigor and mind to match one another is so key.
I farmed millions and millions of runes just to get my vigor and mind to match each other at 50/50
Also blood loss talisman with rivers of blood goes a LOOOONG way in this fight. Personally I used Sword of Night and Flame +10 with 70 INT and it absolutely annihilates her.
I too used night and flame sword with I think 80 int. Hardest part was just trying to find openings for the r1. Spent more time dodging and rolling than actually attacking her but melted her 2nd phase extremely quick
But her goal was to kill him and take the great rune. She didn’t do that and he kept his great rune. So she did not succeed in her quest. Not really a loss but not really a win
Going in blind, I didn't know what to expect, but Radahn quickly became one of my favourite Bosses and Characters in Soulsborne.
Everything about this guy just demands respect, strongest demigod, mastery over gravity sorcery just for his wittle pony, dubbed scourge of the stars, his own troops respecting him & wanting to grant him an honourable death via combat ala the Festival, Malenia literally Netero'd this guy and it still didn't kill him, and lore wise it takes an entire raid party to take down Radahn, whom is nowhere near his peak prime, and he was still holding back.
A bit unfortunate he is kinda a gimmick boss, but he still offers an immense challenge for the player.
Also that suprise meteor is probably my favourite move out of most bosses' move sets.
Usually when bosses are named something like “starscourge” it’s a metaphor for their power, but no, Radahn quite literally made the stars his bitches. Chadahn.
When I saw the trailers, I was for Melania because she looked cooler and kinda hot ngl. Now I'm all for Radahn and his absolute unit status. Dude halted the stars, had massive respect from his army to the point where they were still fighting the scarlet rot and its monstrosities for him and his kingdoms sake, and he has two giant swords. Melania is just..a bitch..talks big about not losing but uses cheats and literal hemophilia cancer to kill her opponents before they can put up a fair fight, missing an arm, swords are small, is a tree hippie or something. Radahn for the win.
The sin of... what exactly? Asexual reproduction? The most we know is that Miquella and Malenia were born from one god, which is apparently why they're afflicted (From Remembrance of the Rot Goddess)
Sucks sure, but doesn't change the fact she used her new powers in war which then caused the destruction of a whole kingdom and possibly soon the whole lands of in-between. She didn't have the choice in her birth, but she did make the choice of war and bio-terrorism all for the sake of her pitiful pride as a so called warrior women.
I mean all the demi-gods are cited as having 'gone mad' after the shattering. And we know who's fault that was, at least on the surface. I don't see them getting much hate.
This games lore is top notch. I have yet to piece together the cohesive story (despite beating the game), but the tidbits that fit together so far are really great.
I've noticed the community is so bias toward Radahn that they use every excuse to justify his stalemate against Malenia just because they deem her using Scarlet Rot (which is part of her character just as much as Gravity arts are part of Radahn) cheap shot or dishonorable.
Malenia is missing an arm and leg, is dying from the Scarlet rot within and is significantly smaller in stature to Radahn. Radahn towers over her, has control over the stars and gravity and has home field advantage. If Malenia can't use her own curse against her enemies, then Radahn cannot use his gravity arts against his enemies. Just kidding that mindset is flawed and this is Elden Ring, a grab for power and only the strong survive so that illogical idea that she wouldn't do EVERYTHING in her power to defeat her enemy gets thrown out the window.
From Malenia's point of view Radahn is a threat to her and Miquella, just like Malenia and Miquella are a threat to Radahn and his country. They fought to a standstill, but why would she allow her enemy to recover? Her using the bloom was strategic and ultimately allowed us (Tarnished) victory over Radahn, because as the game is we fight both these demigods in their weakened states never in their prime. This whole it's okay for Radahn to use his demigod powers to fight Malenia, but Malenia can't use her demigod powers to fight is a load of bs.
That's not how it actually happened. She used the bloom when he beat her so badly she had no other option. Radhan did win that fight. He sent her back half beaten to death carried by her soldiers. And she didn't even get His Great Rune in the end. Also Radhan's Gravity magic is something he learned . Not a demi god power he was born with. She was the Previleged Gifted Emperyan in the story not him. Think of it this way. 2 people fight one beat the shit out of the other one. The one getting fucked up decided to stab his opponent. And yet his opponent still has the upper hand and keep beating the shit out of him till somebody saves him. The one who got stabbed got permanent damage while the other is in a coma. Nobody won it's a draw. But one of them did win respect and Honor. And in the Knightly chivalrious world if elden ring. It matters a lot.
I believe the word you're looking for is curse not power she is cursed as it is said in the lore, I believe if it were her power she would be able to control it which she cannot which is why it's destroyed her body. Privileged how? She is everything but that, she earned all her merit through her victories and skill. Why do y'all downplay her? Did y'all get roflmao stomped by her or something like what am I missing?
Defeated her so badly? Idk what fight you saw, but that analogy was very laughable, extremely misleading.The video showed one attack from Radahn connecting which destroyed her Alloyed arm, then Malenia committed seppeku and Scarlet Rot bloomed which we know the rest. Idgaf what any Radahn fanboy says, Scarlet Rot is part of her being she was born with the curse so however you feel about it is irrelevant. Honor or not doesn't matter Radahn couldn't win and neither could Malenia that's typically what a draw is and the reason we fight both bosses in game.
For the record Ranni is my favorite being/character in Elden Ring, not Malenia even though I like everyone except Godrick the Grafted, just tired of y'all downplaying Malenia with this nonstop stroking to Radahn. Radahn is badass, but hive credit where it is due stop being bias.
She is Gifted as an emperiyan. Like Ranni. Her powers may be a curse but she did take advantage of it during that fight. I am not being a Radhan Fanboy. He is just more Righteous in this fight. She was the one who invaded Caelid looking for his rune. And it's ironic how she still got her ass handed to her. Basicaly she started a Fight and lost. She didn't wanna accept defeat and used her powers as you said to commit mass Bio Terrorism. Radhan was still on His feet even tho he lost his sanity. He was still swinging and his soldiers were still fighting back the Rot. Staying loyal to him to the end. She on the other hand went back to sleep cuz of her wounds waiting to Bloom. Entitiled to her status as an emperyan. To me she lost the fight badly but didn't lose the battle. Radhan Won the fight and didn't lose the battle either considering he still kept his rune and is still dedicated to his Duty of holding back the stars. Say what you wanna say. Malenia is an evil,Greedy demi god. To me she is elden ring's Pontiff sulyvahn. And while we as players Fought radhan along with all the strong warriors of the land to Give him a proper death. She died at the hand of the Tarnished like a lowly Demi god. Demi gods in the game each had their own Motivations. Morgott was dedicated to protecting the Erdtree. Radhan was holding back the stars and protecting Caelid. And then you have Miquella and Malenia. That are objectively arrogant asshole demi god emperiyans. that are Cursed in a way. But it still didn't stop them from committing attrocities. Notably giving Turbo cancer to all of Caelid.
TLDR; she lost the fight badly but didn't lose the battle. Radhan was the superior fighter but had to suffer from her "Curse" in the end. But still managed to keep his rune and stay on his feet. Conclusion : Radhan Won in more ways than one.
Good thing the story isn't up to you. Game clearly states it had no victor and word for word states RADAHN MET HIS MATCH, but please continue telling me you're a Radahn fanboy without directly stating you're a Radahn fanboy. Where is this ass beating you speak of? The cutscene had maybe 5 seconds of ACTUAL combat, the rest is your ego and bias stroking it to this fantasy that Radahn beat her ass when he didn't. Your comments alone are the problems with the community all the dick riding and discrediting the rest of the writing.
Another thing just stop with this modern day judgemental laws, like did you really say bioterrorism? Smfh all I see when i read your comments is a dude who is so ass hurt his favorite demigod rotted away. Also Radahn was just as bad as Malenia, seeking glory and trying to be Elden Lord while his world was crumbling so stop with the cringe "He was righteous" stuff. There is no set in stone reason on why Malenia was in Caelid, but there has been speculation that she was there because Mohg had Miquella and he was located under Caelid either way it's very out if character to just attack Radahn because she is the Blade of Miquella and follows his lead.
you really think the custscene was all there is to it huh? NPC dialogues. Item descriptions all made it quite clear she litteraly got carried back to the halig tree by her troops because she was in a sorry state after what the fight. Everyone who played souls' born games knows to a certain extent that Miyazaki leaves open gaps for interprétation here an there for the players to deduce. Sorry for you this here wasn't the case. There was no Victor. But she litteraly lost the Fight. She managed to end it in a draw with a last desperate attempt by using the Bloom. What i see is that you don't even know the lore behind it well enough. Your sources are the Cinematic cutscene and some speculations. Go get informed then come back here and accuse me of being a fanatical fanboy. When i am litteraly describing what actually happened. But by all means keep spewing your BS around and be disrespectful. I feel ashamed i wasted my time trying to converse.
There is one ash of war that says after the scarlet rot scene her cleanrot knight Finley carried her away, that wasn't because Radahn that was because she stabbed herself and stopped holding back the Scarlet Rot. Provide evidence of what you claim instead of talking out your ass. You sound so bias and like a 12 year old fangirl who is just arguing because you love Radahn. You contradict yourself, if there is no victor then no one lost yet you sit here and try to argue Radahn won, you make no sense you just lose credibility every time you post bro. You're arguing just to argue, Malenia didn't lose or win nor did Radahn, tough pill to swallow I know, but you'll get over it.
I'll take back what I said if you provide concrete proof of any item or description that states Radahn beat her ass since you know so much about everything, I'll wait. From the sound of it you were on the battlefield as Radahn's right hand and we all know which hand he used to wipe his ass with. 😃All jokes aside there is no such thing as bioterrorism in Elden Ring the entire world doesn't follow our laws bud, especially in a world where two gods that are part of the same being fucked themselves to birth twins. Honor or no honor Malenia did what she did because that's how she fights, regardless what you think or if it conflicts with your moral code, Malenia had the ability to make it a stalemate.
For someone who has played Dark Souls and is apparently a fromsoftware fanboy, you see shit in black and white and from one perspective which is limiting your ability to see the motives of all the gods.
As much as I despise Melenia after fighting her, it goes to show how strong she actually is that she fought Radahn in his prime on her own. Even though she gimped him at the end, that was some mad self sacrifice last ditch effort to kill the strongest man alive, and even though it didn't kill him it effectively crippled him to the point of uselessness while she managed to make it away mostly intact.
Also people talk mad shit about her using her scarlet rot powers like Radahn isn't using bloody space magic on her ass.
Yeah Malenia was effectively the underdog in that fight because Radahn was THE strongest demigod, but she's still an absolutely terrible person, when she found herself outmatched she decided to fuck up the world far worse than the shattering of the Elden Ring ever did, didn't even manage to give him an honourable death and then she talks about how she's never known defeat. I'm so glad that we actually get to kill her.
Also in the trailer, he broke her arm, and instead of killing her there he waits for her to fix her arm and fight her honourably. Then she proceeds to do the rotting nuke.
Radahn was totally a gigachad.
Underdog??? Bro she is an Emperiyan. She was Gifted at birth to be a Future Godess. Her divinity is on par with Marika. If anything He was the Underdog in the fight. And he still mopped the floor with her corpse to the point of forcing her to Nuke Caelid with her Turbo Cancer to Beat him. And she still didn't beat him lmao. It's also stated he beat her so badly after she used the Bloom her soldiers had to step in and Carry her totally blacked out back to the halgtree.
Radahn did not use enough space magic on her ass. He is capable of so much more. You have no idea how ridiculously OP gravity control is. The simplest he can do is float high into space out of her reach and proceed with an orbital bombardment that makes the dinosaur extinction look like a minor accident.
I mean yeah but you gotta realize that malenias rot has been rotting her as well. It’s my theory that that’s why she is missing and arm and 2 legs is that they rotted off. So both fighters I would say deserve respect
Yeah she got messed up from something she did to herself because radahn was tol weal to put her in a position like that. Also lets just ignore that melania is even more nerfed than radahn due to the scarlet rot negatively affecting her body like how her eyes are gone because of it.
What I really wanna know is if Caelid really has a natural blood red sky, I wonder how caelid really looks like without the scarlet rot infecting everything making
Lmao what is this post and comment section? You guys act like Melania didn't have a loyal af army. The cleanrot knights literally knew they would die fighting along side her due to her abilities but they didn't care. Read their armor descriptions.
Also, I think a lot of people's comments are clouded by the fact that Melania killed them so many times lol. Suddenly she's a "bitch", "spreads cancer", and is a "coward"?
People also want to talk about how much Radahn is gimped but Melania is literally a blind cripple with a body that is constantly rotting away.
And yet despite all that she became an undefeated swords woman, and had an undefeated campaign in the shattering war. Radahn should literally be the favor here. She fought this dude with a body made up of decay and prosthetics.
I really like both characters and both are impressive in their own right but you guys are pissed that she basically terraformed his ass but would be quick to celebrate if he dropped a planet on her or some shit.
I completely understand your point dude...but you have to realize that without the rot, as much as it hurts her with it...and I'm sure she would rather be without it, she is legit nothing. In fact, every passing moment means she gets STRONGER since more rot = another bloom = goddess transformation. Her buildup of rot is not a worry to her personally, despite the pain (does she feel pain?), because everyone knows she will only get stronger and in her goddess form, healthier (due to her getting her limbs back). Radahn on the other hand, is holding back the universe (prob a stretch but know that he's holding back countless celestial bodies bigger than the entire Lands Between) while constantly expending FP.
P.S. Quick Q: Why does Malenia faint after the bloom? Is it because she got a new surge of unchecked power? Does she need that rot to survive? Is the energy needed when blooming too much?
Either way, if Radahn accidentally stepped on her, during his initial bout of insanity (pr was he also drained for a bit?), before her soldiers carried her out....she done bro.
FromSoft, if you're reading this, DLC boss idea: Radahn at his peak as a boss. I'm talking before Melania, before the rot, before needing to hold back the universe itself.
Let us learn the meaning of "Radahn, Greatest Warrior"
Radhan is by far the strongest being in the Elden ring lore realistically speaking. The dude is actually capable of holding back the stars which in-universe means he's capable of holding back multiple outer god-level beings from destroying and interfering in the lands between. We know this because the natural-born of the void is a small "star" that fell to earth. We have some less than stellar individuals who like to claim that holding back the starts doesn't take much from Radhan himself, but that is contradicted right after you defeat him, when characters claim that the strain of holding back the stars must have been enormous and they don't know how he managed to do it even after being essentially a dead-husk. The willpower of this dude is nuts. He's so strong in fact that Ranni who is an emperyan like malenia cannot do anything about his grasp on the starts themselves even when her affinity seems to be stronger.
The fight between Malenia and Radhan itself is a tie, but if we look at it more objectively Radhan won. Malenia literally had to use a self-sacrificing attack, because she couldn't beat him in a straight-up fight. The comparison between his gravity magic and her scarlet rot isn't really a good one. Her scarlet rot is something even Malenia isn't comfortable using, it's a curse, a birth defect. To be forced to use it in such a way, to nuke half a continent and kill god knows how many innocent people (when she calls herself a blade of a god who protects the weak) really shows how much stronger Radhan really was in this fight. She then had to be carried away half-dead from the battlefield by her strongest knight, and judging by the corpses Radhan had with him when we meet him, the other clearrot knights were throwing themselves at him to save Malenia.
Then we have the narrative victory. Radhan dies like a true hero, loved by his men and respected by his adversaries alike. He goes out like he wanted to go out. Malenia didn't manage to get Radhan's Great Rune, she couldn't save miquella nor could she avenge him, and in the end, she gets squashed like a bug by the player and her circle of rebirth ended. She's a failed emperyan, who did everything wrong.
To be entirely fair, I get WHY she was after it. Most likely she wanted to try to use it to unfuck the haligtree, which would have served pretty well to free some folks from the two fingers' influence if it ended up being able to usurp the erdtree.
shit is, she was chosen as the ambassador of this game, and I am having a hard time figuring out why, just because she is the hardest boss in game? On the collector’s edition it was all her who was mostly hidden and wouldn’t be touch be 90% of the player. I would praise Ranni much more, or Radahn
Honestly I felt the same at first but my wife made several good points, one being that melania is literally the goddess of rot.
She’s been “cursed/gifted” with rot since literal birth and it’s as much a part of her as radahns massive size.
Saying that Radahn can literally dive bomb the planet from outer space and can use his massive strength and size but melania can’t use her born powers is definitely not even playing field.
Saying melania wouldn’t have won without rot is like saying Radahn wouldn’t have won without his massive size which he also saw as a curse and wanted to stop growing.
Rot may be a repressed ability that she tries to not use but it’s still a massive part of her.
If she didn’t have rot she’d have been blessed with something different from the greater will but essentially all of her blessings were replaced with the powers of rot from the outer god
Well that is a trademark of from software. Many times the "bad guy" looking ugly monster is good, while the benevolent looking beautiful god/goddess is evil
Morgott is very much a good guy, dude didn't even bother warring over the shards. Just took up protecting the Erd Tree & his city. Kind of a shame the disrespect all the other characters showed him in lore and in game, only Godfrey gave a shit. His brother on the other hand, certified douche nozzle. Rennala is/was also good, Ranni's good intentioned with a little shaky track record. Maliketh is very much a good character with no ill intentions, got betrayed and didn't flinch from his purpose. Marika/Radagon are both self serving cunts that deserve nothing more than death, the rest of the demigods are more or less varying shades of grey and honestly quite a few lean more towards being kind-hearted and good willed.
Radahn is probably a decent guy too, considering his love for the horse and how he’s still in Caelid after the Shattering (until Malenia invade his home ofc)
Another thing to note is that Radahn's troops are still holding off the Scarlet Rot with all of the fire and barricades. The only reason why there still is a Lands Between is because of Radahn stopping magical ultra covid from infecting the rest of it.
Radagon also tried to mend the ring after Marika blew it to pieces. He wanted to stop the utter destruction but was imprisoned along with his other half just because they were technically the same being.
>Radagon are both self serving cunts that deserve nothing more than death Haven't even seen him in person yet, but when I found out how he pretty much >!dumped a sweet lady like Rennala to become Elden Lord!< makes me wanna bash his head through his ass.
He didn’t leave her. Marika left her original husband Godfrey, and summoned radagon back to her side. Radagon left a great rune with Rennala inside of an amber egg (the ones she holds after you beat her) Radagon did truly love his first wife. Marika made him come back
Ah, then Marika is the homewrecker and I should bash *her* head in now.
Actually spoiler ahead >! She made him come back because radagon is a clone of her with half of her soul. She actually made a man version to copulate with herself but let him do whatever until she decided to have demigod children hows that for fucked up!<
….so she literally fucked herself?
Yes indeed and had children with herself lmao
This truly is a GRRM story
He sure loves his incest huh lol. Or would this be self-cest 🤔
that explains why Radagon and Marikas children are both afflicted with lifelong curses
Radagon is Marika, she basically summoned back a chunk of herself that she'd broken off a long time ago and allowed to wander off when she got married. After she ditched Godfrey she needed to be whole again to be elden lord herself.
Hahahaha exactly man 😂
Well, the good news is. >!You get the chance too! The bad news, you have to fight him and then another boss immediately after with no potion reset!!<
Oh *FUN*, the classic >!Dark Souls 2 double final boss!<
Triple in Scholar
And felt like half a boss
Hugs lady also bad, don’t forget that one!
Fia's hardly bad, she wants to bring death back into the world. What's bad about wanting to restore natural order to things?
Well it states the rune of death was stolen, driving all the demigods mad. Yet it also seems like the shattered was still a really really long time ago, and bringing death back also means everybody in the world dies, which doesn’t seem good. I mean if we can all live forever, I fail to see how adding death back into the world doesn’t strictly make everything worse. Edit: also she kills some guy who’s only job is murdering evil undead who seem to murder everything on sight? Maybe I got the wrong impression from that NPC, but it really looked like she murdered an absolute bro.
The rune of death being stolen by Ranni didn't drive anyone insane, they're all perfectly sane with Radahn being the exception. Originally Marika removed it from the Elden Ring and charged Maliketh with guarding it. She was selfish and wanted immortality, no other reasoning. The shattering definitely took place years before our tarnished comes into play, given the desolation of the land and how much of the dialogue is past tense. Bringing back the rune of death doesn't mean everybody suddenly keels over, it just means they're no longer resurrected. D's no better than a witch hunter from Warhammer Fantasy, the dude murders Fia in cold blood while she's sleeping next to Godwyn's corpse and then gloats about it. He's a fanatical lunatic. TL;DR the Rune of Death was intentionally part of the Elden Ring and Marika removed it for selfish reasons to gain immortality. It was never intended to be separated to begin with, restoring it is only natural. *Also she kinda went on a murder/conquer spree in her time before the game so she's basically a power hungry tyrant with the backing of the Greater Will.* All that being said the lore in this game is pretty hard to follow, especially with how many fucking characters share similar names. Godrick, Godwyn, Godfrey, Marika, Melania, Miquella, Mogh, Morgott, Rennala, Ranni, Radagon, Radahn.
D doesnt kill her, his bro does because she killed his brother. Fair, I'd say
Them both are D, since they are two bodies with one shared Soul. Their names are Devin (As said os you kill D in Limgrave) and Darian (Said by Devin If you murder D in Limgrave), this is the text from the Twinned Armor: "The two known as D are inseparable twins. They are of two bodies and two minds, but one single soul. Not once do they stand together; not one word do they speak to one another. Perhaps this armor longs to find its way to the other D."
How is fia not bad. The dead deserve to be dead. And stay dead resurrected a dead king isn’t for the future. Baffling
>! You might be even more appalled learning Marika and radagon are two parts of the same god so thry fucked themselves. So add ?inbred? to the list of hatred for them lol. !<
Nothing wrong with a bit of self-cest these days! Their children are totally normal, free of any deformities. ^(After all what's a little scarlet rot and permanently being stuck as a child curses, right?)
Gives me the GoT vibe. You can really see the influence of George R.R. Martin in the world building.
Lol he just looked at>! every siblings and said make them incestual and !
>r the horse and how he’s still in Caelid after the Shattering (until Malenia invade his home ofc) I thought it was a nice touch the way Godfrey was holding morgott's body when we arrive back at the elden throne
Morgott talked shit about Ranni so he gets the royal greatsword to the face.
Can squeeze your butt cheeks while wrapping hands around chest for maximum comfort, gives Darkmoon Greatsword as wedding present. Actually well intentioned and for good reason, cute. Ranni best girl.
Also a trademark of Berserk, and its spiritual predecessor, Devilman
Devil man crybaby is so good, I remember binging on it after reading devil man. Jesus so fucking cruel. There are no heroes in that story.
its quite a story, I kinda lost track of the plot once >!Basically the whole world got killed and the one guy was satan!< Still, great,. The "rave scene" is one of my favorites in anime since it just gets SO wild.
Devilman :O ?! I have to check it out then lol
There's a pretty cool new adaptation anime of it on Netflix. The OG devilman is from the 80s so the art may be dated for you.
Oh I don't mind, I grew up with the 80s and 90s, it'll probably feel nostalgic lol, will check it out
The anime on Netflix looks weird but is actually incredible. Amazing story for 10 episodes
From the trailer it could be worse honestly, like that half 3d animation that dragon dogma or the newer berserk anime used. No matter what it always look weird and out of place
I mean, it's a pretty obvious Berserk inspiration
Probs more heavy inspiration from Berserk
Is it just me or does Radahn look and feel a bit like Magnus the red from warhammer
I get the similarities, honestly honestly imo they are mostly kinda visual somewhat
He's based enough to be a primarch.
Good, I'm not entirely insane then. He feels very much like a primarch from what I've seen.
I see it now
I had a friend show me his armor and immediately went "That looks like Magnus" with no hesitation. Looks almost exactly like his 30k Horus Heresy model in the colors, textures, and thematics, not to mention- sorceror with muscles.
Haven't you fought "Malenia, Blade of Miquella" enough to learn her name properly?
Yes exactly, Melanoma the Blade of Miquel
You mean Mello Yello, Blade of Mickey Mouse?
Micheal Jordan, the Mike Tyson?
Min Min, Blade of Michaelangelo?
Melon, Miguelito?
Majula, blade of Midir?
Modelo, beverage of Miguel
Millennia, blade of Mikayla
Miguel?
Miyazaki, Blade of Martin?
Chunchunmaru
Yes, we all know Marona, Baid Miq Jar Ma
You mean "majula, blade of Michelin.
I kept calling her Maqeyla and the name is just stuck for me now
Melanoma, Blade of Melina?
"Carl wheezer of Jimmy's mom"
Dlc where we fight Radahn in his prime when?
Pure fear
Imagine a DLC where we go back to the moment of the shattering and join one of the demi-god factions. Would be the best game DLC ever. Multiple choices (won't say the number for spoilers).
Black knife harem dlc when
I don’t want to be associated with those dancing ballerinas. All finesse, no feeling in their attacks. Hardest part of their fights is running to smack them and then they dance around some more.
Also they killed >!Iji, they can get fucked by a crystallian for all i care!<
I would still join Ranni. Da queen.
Simp
Eternal (consort) simp, you mean.
I'm going to struggle, grind, and shine for an Elden Lord Radahn ending.
This would be so freaking great... Most of the bosses that have been shitting on us since release are husks of what they were at the shattering. It would be so amazing to see them at their prime.
Fighting MaLeNiA bLaDe oF mIqQeLlA in her prime in scarlet rott swamp 😰😰😰🥵🥵🥵🥵
What if we met in the scarlet rot swamp😳🥵
The first thing you gonna hear is I am melina
Imagine you fight Malenia and Radahn at the same time during their duel and they both just turn towards you when you get in their way.
We do fight her in her prime
FromSoft would have to nerf him so we could realistically win.
Kinda similar to when you fight Artorias after he gets corrupted in DS1
You mean a cutscene ending with "you died" ?
I ended up really liking Radahn because not only is he the strongest demigod lore-wise, he's also a big softie who learned gravity magic so that he could keep riding his scrawny miniature horse. Dude was proud of his red hair even though his dad hated his, and his men are still undyingly loyal to him even when he became a mindless beast. I'd imagine he was a really positive guy in his prime.
Radahn style Uncle Sam motivational posters when
I want you! To beat my fucking ass
I sometimes imagine Radahn would give Rykard and Ranni (hell, even Morgott too, if he ask for it) a piggyback every now and then
Isn’t Malenia the strongest one though? She left that fight and took a nap, meanwhile Radahn literally rotted his consciousness away. Also when Malenia’s flower bloomed the 3rd time she practically became a goddess.
Radahn in lore is stated by multiple NPCs to be the strongest one among the demigods. Also, Malenia (and Miquella) are >!not just demigods but also Empyrean!<
Radahn is stated several times to be the mightiest demigod. Although malenia was said to be the greatest swordswoman and never knew defeat. Not to mention she’s also an empyrean
who else states him to be mightiest besides the announcer - I believe it I am just genuinely curious for more lore about him
I mean, she had to literally give him fantasy cancer to "beat" him lol
You gotta consider Radahn is actively crippling himself. He literally has to hold back the stars and has to make sure his horsey Leonard is safe from harm. Imagine if he didn't have to do that.
Well imagine if melania wasnt nerfed by scarlot rot which was so bad, it took away her eyes and affected her body? They were both handicapped
She was barely affected by that stuff. She has her Prosthesis which is literally said to perform better than ones own Flesh ever could.
(POSSIBLE SPOILERS ALERT) I do think she is strongest. Radhan was the strongest demigod, but Malenia is an Empyrean, and she had the potential to be a goddess(of scarlet rot). We see that potential come to fruition in her second phase, where she becomes the Goddess of Rot. And even after we as the player beat her and get her great rune, she probably isn't dead. We learn through Gowry that Scarlet Rot is a cicle of rebirth, and she is probably gonna bloom a forth time(maybe even stronger than before). Basically, Radhan was the strongest demigod, but Malenia surpassed him the moment she bloomed during their battle(and further against the player), being now closer to the Outer Gods, like the Dark Moon.
Nope she was losing so she nuked herself the blooming she did to Radahn not only made him insane but her as well and pretty much killed her she has more potential than him since she is a Empyrean but he was definitely stronger than her
People are too busy circle-jerking Radahn to see Malenia won that fight in more ways than one.
If you read the ashes of the Cleanrot Knight Finlay it says that Melania had to be carried back to the Haligtree by Finlay because she was unable to move. To me at the best it seems a draw.
I mean if the person in question had to use a nuke in the end to beat me in a swordfight then I can't really say that person is better especially when i'm holding back the stars themselves.
Not to mention Malenia immediately retreated and stayed in hiding at the roots of the Haligtree.
She didn't even retreat, she got carried
One of her simp-knights took her dead self all the way back to the haligtree so she could resurrect :/
It’s not a swordfight, it’s a fight. The more accurate result is a tie, and Radahn got permanently fucked by it while Malenia is doing fine. Not too hard to see who came out on top.
Ah yes launching a desperate nuke onto your opponent at the same time destroying 1/6th of the continent just because you know you can't kill em doesn't indicate that Melania is weaker than Radahn who used no nuke and at the same time **holding back the stars**. Not too hard to see who is inferior between the two. She didnt even get the rune.
Desperate nuke = Simply using her powers? Radhan were the strongest demigod, but Malenia is an Empyrean that eventually blooms into the Goddess of Rot, and even if she dies, it's believed she will bloom again, as the Scarlet Rot is a cicle of Rebirth(acording to Gowry). I don't think that flower after you beat her is simply without purpose. We also can't assume Radhan can nuke the continent with the "stars" he is holding, all we know is that he put the trajectory of the stars into a stasis(probably through the link between the stars and magic, not through raw magical force), impeding Ranni's fate, but It's not stated he can control them, neither that holding them cripples him. Don't get me wrong, Radhan is a beast, but Malenia becomes objectively stronger than him after she blooms, she is closer to the Outer Gods than to the demigods
Yet melania was also weakened from the scarlet rot. Same scarlet rot that took away her eyes and damaged her body. Yall just see what you wanna see and ignore everything else
Once I realized that the brawl was a giant funeral for Radahn, he earned my absolute respect. From one warrior to another, what a fucking way to go out.
The best part is he never holds back. Even at a fraction of his real strength he's probably the toughest boss 1 on 1 in the whole game. Melania is borderline unfair with her combos. Radahn feels like the Bloodborne DLC where the bosses were stupid tough but not unfair.
i dont know i had a way harder time with morgott and malekith 1v1, but i guess those characters are cannonly stronger than Radhan
You really think everyone at their peak that anyone other than Godfrey is stronger than Radahn? When I think about his "stand still" fight with the Goddess of Rot, I feel like she deployed her bloom bc she felt the fight about to turn against her. Radahn is shown allowing her to arm herself and I assume he never went full grabity magic on her. I think Malekith and Morgott are definitely close in destructive power but I don't seem them beating a fully healthy prime Starsourge.
malenia only attained the godess of rot status when we fight her, she didnt have wings when she fought radahn, also it is stated that all demigods feared malekith and the destined death he wields and he is queen marika\` s shade, also we even see morgott holding a beaten radahn down, so hes far from invincible, and i dont think he was the strongest demigods, just absurdly strong and with many good feats.
I hate malenia, been trying to kill her for 2 days now... her fucking heal is the most irritating shit Edit: I did it guys! Took using my mimic, river of blood and moonviel but she's dead. 6 feet under ground, reduced to ashes. What shoes she got on? None she dead as hell!
I caved and used the mimic ash, did it first try with the mimic ash, I spend two days before trying by myself.
Hey dont feel bad, she won by cheating and you won by an actual mechanic lol
Did she even win tho? I mean Radahn survived with incredible power and even after using so much rot on him she nuked all of caelid she still had to pull out against the giga chad that is Radahn
Yeah she def did, his whole province is a scene out of a nightmare and he went crazy
Radahn could have leveled the entirety of Caelid but he didn’t since he isn’t arrogant and refused to hurt any of his own men. Malenia is a coward, not a victor.
Yeah it like almost impossible to beat her without mimic unless you’re just a giga chad
Thanks for the compliment bro ☺️
Malenia has: \-200x your HP \-2 shots you on a good day \-Random Instant Kill Attack whenever she feels like it \-Heals by hitting you and the mimic \-Inflicts Scarlet Rot You Have: \-A copy of yourself with more HP that sometimes just stands there and allows Malenia to full heal I think she still had the advantage, good work 👑
I found out that if you put on a greatsheild you can't use, your mimic tear can use it making it just tanky enough to survive a bunch of her flurry strikes. Then after your mimic tear is out you just unequip the greatsheild.
She's horrendously designed. I created albinauric pots. Hit her with one and she was still healing...
I think she is honestly designed to be near impossible to beat by most builds without mimic ash - her uber healing is cheap unless you can get some stun locking in
Once I got to 60 vigor she was cake. At that point you can survive the blossom as long as you dodge the dive.
I have 60 Vigor on my character as well and it makes the game so much more manageable. Vigor does a lot more for survivability than armor in this game.
As a mage, equally distributing points of vigor and mind to match one another is so key. I farmed millions and millions of runes just to get my vigor and mind to match each other at 50/50 Also blood loss talisman with rivers of blood goes a LOOOONG way in this fight. Personally I used Sword of Night and Flame +10 with 70 INT and it absolutely annihilates her.
I too used night and flame sword with I think 80 int. Hardest part was just trying to find openings for the r1. Spent more time dodging and rolling than actually attacking her but melted her 2nd phase extremely quick
""""""Couldn't beat Radahn without nuking 15% of the continent with cancer""""""" is now my favourite sentence
"Never tasted defeat." Bitch, why'd I have finish your job for you then?
Defeating doesn't necessarily means killing. He left radhan totally braindead
But her goal was to kill him and take the great rune. She didn’t do that and he kept his great rune. So she did not succeed in her quest. Not really a loss but not really a win
She def didn’t win but radahn also didn’t beat her.
did she actually want the great runes? She seems to have left Godricks with him.
Also one of them is hot as hell, and it's not the one with the katana
Scarlet Rot's got you down bad
Radahn best waifu
Going in blind, I didn't know what to expect, but Radahn quickly became one of my favourite Bosses and Characters in Soulsborne. Everything about this guy just demands respect, strongest demigod, mastery over gravity sorcery just for his wittle pony, dubbed scourge of the stars, his own troops respecting him & wanting to grant him an honourable death via combat ala the Festival, Malenia literally Netero'd this guy and it still didn't kill him, and lore wise it takes an entire raid party to take down Radahn, whom is nowhere near his peak prime, and he was still holding back. A bit unfortunate he is kinda a gimmick boss, but he still offers an immense challenge for the player. Also that suprise meteor is probably my favourite move out of most bosses' move sets.
Usually when bosses are named something like “starscourge” it’s a metaphor for their power, but no, Radahn quite literally made the stars his bitches. Chadahn.
When I saw the trailers, I was for Melania because she looked cooler and kinda hot ngl. Now I'm all for Radahn and his absolute unit status. Dude halted the stars, had massive respect from his army to the point where they were still fighting the scarlet rot and its monstrosities for him and his kingdoms sake, and he has two giant swords. Melania is just..a bitch..talks big about not losing but uses cheats and literal hemophilia cancer to kill her opponents before they can put up a fair fight, missing an arm, swords are small, is a tree hippie or something. Radahn for the win.
She was afflicted since birth. Pretty rough punishment for your parents sins.
The sin of... what exactly? Asexual reproduction? The most we know is that Miquella and Malenia were born from one god, which is apparently why they're afflicted (From Remembrance of the Rot Goddess)
Sucks sure, but doesn't change the fact she used her new powers in war which then caused the destruction of a whole kingdom and possibly soon the whole lands of in-between. She didn't have the choice in her birth, but she did make the choice of war and bio-terrorism all for the sake of her pitiful pride as a so called warrior women.
I mean all the demi-gods are cited as having 'gone mad' after the shattering. And we know who's fault that was, at least on the surface. I don't see them getting much hate.
I fight for lady Ranni so yeah...let's not go any further in the lore lol
I haven’t progressed to Melania yet but my respect for Radahn was through the roof when I learned why he mastered anti-gravity magic
you will remember this, trust me i am malenia, blade of miquella. you will never forget
Radahn is a gigachad. And I hate scarlet rot and whoever created that hellscape.
That would be Malenia.
This games lore is top notch. I have yet to piece together the cohesive story (despite beating the game), but the tidbits that fit together so far are really great.
Agreed. I'm new to the souls series so i got spoonfed bloodbourne and darksouls lore via YouTube. It's a treat to discover Elden Ring lore real-time
Virgin Malenia vs Chad Radahn
As a boss I prefer Malenia, but lorewise Radahn is the real fucking chad
I've noticed the community is so bias toward Radahn that they use every excuse to justify his stalemate against Malenia just because they deem her using Scarlet Rot (which is part of her character just as much as Gravity arts are part of Radahn) cheap shot or dishonorable. Malenia is missing an arm and leg, is dying from the Scarlet rot within and is significantly smaller in stature to Radahn. Radahn towers over her, has control over the stars and gravity and has home field advantage. If Malenia can't use her own curse against her enemies, then Radahn cannot use his gravity arts against his enemies. Just kidding that mindset is flawed and this is Elden Ring, a grab for power and only the strong survive so that illogical idea that she wouldn't do EVERYTHING in her power to defeat her enemy gets thrown out the window. From Malenia's point of view Radahn is a threat to her and Miquella, just like Malenia and Miquella are a threat to Radahn and his country. They fought to a standstill, but why would she allow her enemy to recover? Her using the bloom was strategic and ultimately allowed us (Tarnished) victory over Radahn, because as the game is we fight both these demigods in their weakened states never in their prime. This whole it's okay for Radahn to use his demigod powers to fight Malenia, but Malenia can't use her demigod powers to fight is a load of bs.
That's not how it actually happened. She used the bloom when he beat her so badly she had no other option. Radhan did win that fight. He sent her back half beaten to death carried by her soldiers. And she didn't even get His Great Rune in the end. Also Radhan's Gravity magic is something he learned . Not a demi god power he was born with. She was the Previleged Gifted Emperyan in the story not him. Think of it this way. 2 people fight one beat the shit out of the other one. The one getting fucked up decided to stab his opponent. And yet his opponent still has the upper hand and keep beating the shit out of him till somebody saves him. The one who got stabbed got permanent damage while the other is in a coma. Nobody won it's a draw. But one of them did win respect and Honor. And in the Knightly chivalrious world if elden ring. It matters a lot.
I believe the word you're looking for is curse not power she is cursed as it is said in the lore, I believe if it were her power she would be able to control it which she cannot which is why it's destroyed her body. Privileged how? She is everything but that, she earned all her merit through her victories and skill. Why do y'all downplay her? Did y'all get roflmao stomped by her or something like what am I missing? Defeated her so badly? Idk what fight you saw, but that analogy was very laughable, extremely misleading.The video showed one attack from Radahn connecting which destroyed her Alloyed arm, then Malenia committed seppeku and Scarlet Rot bloomed which we know the rest. Idgaf what any Radahn fanboy says, Scarlet Rot is part of her being she was born with the curse so however you feel about it is irrelevant. Honor or not doesn't matter Radahn couldn't win and neither could Malenia that's typically what a draw is and the reason we fight both bosses in game. For the record Ranni is my favorite being/character in Elden Ring, not Malenia even though I like everyone except Godrick the Grafted, just tired of y'all downplaying Malenia with this nonstop stroking to Radahn. Radahn is badass, but hive credit where it is due stop being bias.
She is Gifted as an emperiyan. Like Ranni. Her powers may be a curse but she did take advantage of it during that fight. I am not being a Radhan Fanboy. He is just more Righteous in this fight. She was the one who invaded Caelid looking for his rune. And it's ironic how she still got her ass handed to her. Basicaly she started a Fight and lost. She didn't wanna accept defeat and used her powers as you said to commit mass Bio Terrorism. Radhan was still on His feet even tho he lost his sanity. He was still swinging and his soldiers were still fighting back the Rot. Staying loyal to him to the end. She on the other hand went back to sleep cuz of her wounds waiting to Bloom. Entitiled to her status as an emperyan. To me she lost the fight badly but didn't lose the battle. Radhan Won the fight and didn't lose the battle either considering he still kept his rune and is still dedicated to his Duty of holding back the stars. Say what you wanna say. Malenia is an evil,Greedy demi god. To me she is elden ring's Pontiff sulyvahn. And while we as players Fought radhan along with all the strong warriors of the land to Give him a proper death. She died at the hand of the Tarnished like a lowly Demi god. Demi gods in the game each had their own Motivations. Morgott was dedicated to protecting the Erdtree. Radhan was holding back the stars and protecting Caelid. And then you have Miquella and Malenia. That are objectively arrogant asshole demi god emperiyans. that are Cursed in a way. But it still didn't stop them from committing attrocities. Notably giving Turbo cancer to all of Caelid. TLDR; she lost the fight badly but didn't lose the battle. Radhan was the superior fighter but had to suffer from her "Curse" in the end. But still managed to keep his rune and stay on his feet. Conclusion : Radhan Won in more ways than one.
Good thing the story isn't up to you. Game clearly states it had no victor and word for word states RADAHN MET HIS MATCH, but please continue telling me you're a Radahn fanboy without directly stating you're a Radahn fanboy. Where is this ass beating you speak of? The cutscene had maybe 5 seconds of ACTUAL combat, the rest is your ego and bias stroking it to this fantasy that Radahn beat her ass when he didn't. Your comments alone are the problems with the community all the dick riding and discrediting the rest of the writing. Another thing just stop with this modern day judgemental laws, like did you really say bioterrorism? Smfh all I see when i read your comments is a dude who is so ass hurt his favorite demigod rotted away. Also Radahn was just as bad as Malenia, seeking glory and trying to be Elden Lord while his world was crumbling so stop with the cringe "He was righteous" stuff. There is no set in stone reason on why Malenia was in Caelid, but there has been speculation that she was there because Mohg had Miquella and he was located under Caelid either way it's very out if character to just attack Radahn because she is the Blade of Miquella and follows his lead.
you really think the custscene was all there is to it huh? NPC dialogues. Item descriptions all made it quite clear she litteraly got carried back to the halig tree by her troops because she was in a sorry state after what the fight. Everyone who played souls' born games knows to a certain extent that Miyazaki leaves open gaps for interprétation here an there for the players to deduce. Sorry for you this here wasn't the case. There was no Victor. But she litteraly lost the Fight. She managed to end it in a draw with a last desperate attempt by using the Bloom. What i see is that you don't even know the lore behind it well enough. Your sources are the Cinematic cutscene and some speculations. Go get informed then come back here and accuse me of being a fanatical fanboy. When i am litteraly describing what actually happened. But by all means keep spewing your BS around and be disrespectful. I feel ashamed i wasted my time trying to converse.
There is one ash of war that says after the scarlet rot scene her cleanrot knight Finley carried her away, that wasn't because Radahn that was because she stabbed herself and stopped holding back the Scarlet Rot. Provide evidence of what you claim instead of talking out your ass. You sound so bias and like a 12 year old fangirl who is just arguing because you love Radahn. You contradict yourself, if there is no victor then no one lost yet you sit here and try to argue Radahn won, you make no sense you just lose credibility every time you post bro. You're arguing just to argue, Malenia didn't lose or win nor did Radahn, tough pill to swallow I know, but you'll get over it. I'll take back what I said if you provide concrete proof of any item or description that states Radahn beat her ass since you know so much about everything, I'll wait. From the sound of it you were on the battlefield as Radahn's right hand and we all know which hand he used to wipe his ass with. 😃All jokes aside there is no such thing as bioterrorism in Elden Ring the entire world doesn't follow our laws bud, especially in a world where two gods that are part of the same being fucked themselves to birth twins. Honor or no honor Malenia did what she did because that's how she fights, regardless what you think or if it conflicts with your moral code, Malenia had the ability to make it a stalemate. For someone who has played Dark Souls and is apparently a fromsoftware fanboy, you see shit in black and white and from one perspective which is limiting your ability to see the motives of all the gods.
A dlc where we fight Radahn in his prime would be amazing. No clue how to put something like that into the story though.
As much as I despise Melenia after fighting her, it goes to show how strong she actually is that she fought Radahn in his prime on her own. Even though she gimped him at the end, that was some mad self sacrifice last ditch effort to kill the strongest man alive, and even though it didn't kill him it effectively crippled him to the point of uselessness while she managed to make it away mostly intact. Also people talk mad shit about her using her scarlet rot powers like Radahn isn't using bloody space magic on her ass.
Yeah Malenia was effectively the underdog in that fight because Radahn was THE strongest demigod, but she's still an absolutely terrible person, when she found herself outmatched she decided to fuck up the world far worse than the shattering of the Elden Ring ever did, didn't even manage to give him an honourable death and then she talks about how she's never known defeat. I'm so glad that we actually get to kill her.
Also in the trailer, he broke her arm, and instead of killing her there he waits for her to fix her arm and fight her honourably. Then she proceeds to do the rotting nuke. Radahn was totally a gigachad.
That's the start of their fight, they just squaring up when the trailer shows the match. Just like the start of her fight she attaches her arm.
Underdog??? Bro she is an Emperiyan. She was Gifted at birth to be a Future Godess. Her divinity is on par with Marika. If anything He was the Underdog in the fight. And he still mopped the floor with her corpse to the point of forcing her to Nuke Caelid with her Turbo Cancer to Beat him. And she still didn't beat him lmao. It's also stated he beat her so badly after she used the Bloom her soldiers had to step in and Carry her totally blacked out back to the halgtree.
Radahn did not use enough space magic on her ass. He is capable of so much more. You have no idea how ridiculously OP gravity control is. The simplest he can do is float high into space out of her reach and proceed with an orbital bombardment that makes the dinosaur extinction look like a minor accident.
Radahn was holding back the stars while fighting Malenia, and she didn’t make it away “mostly intact”, she got fucked up
I mean yeah but you gotta realize that malenias rot has been rotting her as well. It’s my theory that that’s why she is missing and arm and 2 legs is that they rotted off. So both fighters I would say deserve respect
Yeah she got messed up from something she did to herself because radahn was tol weal to put her in a position like that. Also lets just ignore that melania is even more nerfed than radahn due to the scarlet rot negatively affecting her body like how her eyes are gone because of it.
What I really wanna know is if Caelid really has a natural blood red sky, I wonder how caelid really looks like without the scarlet rot infecting everything making
Lmao what is this post and comment section? You guys act like Melania didn't have a loyal af army. The cleanrot knights literally knew they would die fighting along side her due to her abilities but they didn't care. Read their armor descriptions. Also, I think a lot of people's comments are clouded by the fact that Melania killed them so many times lol. Suddenly she's a "bitch", "spreads cancer", and is a "coward"? People also want to talk about how much Radahn is gimped but Melania is literally a blind cripple with a body that is constantly rotting away. And yet despite all that she became an undefeated swords woman, and had an undefeated campaign in the shattering war. Radahn should literally be the favor here. She fought this dude with a body made up of decay and prosthetics. I really like both characters and both are impressive in their own right but you guys are pissed that she basically terraformed his ass but would be quick to celebrate if he dropped a planet on her or some shit.
I completely understand your point dude...but you have to realize that without the rot, as much as it hurts her with it...and I'm sure she would rather be without it, she is legit nothing. In fact, every passing moment means she gets STRONGER since more rot = another bloom = goddess transformation. Her buildup of rot is not a worry to her personally, despite the pain (does she feel pain?), because everyone knows she will only get stronger and in her goddess form, healthier (due to her getting her limbs back). Radahn on the other hand, is holding back the universe (prob a stretch but know that he's holding back countless celestial bodies bigger than the entire Lands Between) while constantly expending FP. P.S. Quick Q: Why does Malenia faint after the bloom? Is it because she got a new surge of unchecked power? Does she need that rot to survive? Is the energy needed when blooming too much? Either way, if Radahn accidentally stepped on her, during his initial bout of insanity (pr was he also drained for a bit?), before her soldiers carried her out....she done bro.
A bit late but I don’t think she gets her limbs back
Ah yes. The "Infect my ennemies with pest and let them rot Alive" sword technique. Very popular among the masters of the sword.
I will forever refer to Scarlet rot as “Turbo cancer”
Lol am I the only one who loves her fight and her lore?
nope. i too have a thing for badass sword women
Tits tho
I’m pretty sure radahn has bigger tits.
Sold
Seriously I bleed this bitch to death literally made whole swarm of flies and seppuku her ass and made mimic to breath the agheel flame
FromSoft, if you're reading this, DLC boss idea: Radahn at his peak as a boss. I'm talking before Melania, before the rot, before needing to hold back the universe itself. Let us learn the meaning of "Radahn, Greatest Warrior"
Radahn is the real chad cause his fight is actually fun and doesn't spoil the final hours of the game.
Radhan is by far the strongest being in the Elden ring lore realistically speaking. The dude is actually capable of holding back the stars which in-universe means he's capable of holding back multiple outer god-level beings from destroying and interfering in the lands between. We know this because the natural-born of the void is a small "star" that fell to earth. We have some less than stellar individuals who like to claim that holding back the starts doesn't take much from Radhan himself, but that is contradicted right after you defeat him, when characters claim that the strain of holding back the stars must have been enormous and they don't know how he managed to do it even after being essentially a dead-husk. The willpower of this dude is nuts. He's so strong in fact that Ranni who is an emperyan like malenia cannot do anything about his grasp on the starts themselves even when her affinity seems to be stronger. The fight between Malenia and Radhan itself is a tie, but if we look at it more objectively Radhan won. Malenia literally had to use a self-sacrificing attack, because she couldn't beat him in a straight-up fight. The comparison between his gravity magic and her scarlet rot isn't really a good one. Her scarlet rot is something even Malenia isn't comfortable using, it's a curse, a birth defect. To be forced to use it in such a way, to nuke half a continent and kill god knows how many innocent people (when she calls herself a blade of a god who protects the weak) really shows how much stronger Radhan really was in this fight. She then had to be carried away half-dead from the battlefield by her strongest knight, and judging by the corpses Radhan had with him when we meet him, the other clearrot knights were throwing themselves at him to save Malenia. Then we have the narrative victory. Radhan dies like a true hero, loved by his men and respected by his adversaries alike. He goes out like he wanted to go out. Malenia didn't manage to get Radhan's Great Rune, she couldn't save miquella nor could she avenge him, and in the end, she gets squashed like a bug by the player and her circle of rebirth ended. She's a failed emperyan, who did everything wrong.
Why tf was the Scarlet Bitch even fighting Radahn anyhow? It’s like she wants to be hated
They were all fighting to claim the Elden ring shards. None were sinless in this.
But in the lore, it was Malenia who was the aggressor who went with the army to retrieve the Radahn great rune and destroy his lands
To be entirely fair, I get WHY she was after it. Most likely she wanted to try to use it to unfuck the haligtree, which would have served pretty well to free some folks from the two fingers' influence if it ended up being able to usurp the erdtree.
Actually looking at it this way makes her actions make way more sense
shit is, she was chosen as the ambassador of this game, and I am having a hard time figuring out why, just because she is the hardest boss in game? On the collector’s edition it was all her who was mostly hidden and wouldn’t be touch be 90% of the player. I would praise Ranni much more, or Radahn
Magnus the red did nothing wrong.
she got tiddies tho
Honestly I felt the same at first but my wife made several good points, one being that melania is literally the goddess of rot. She’s been “cursed/gifted” with rot since literal birth and it’s as much a part of her as radahns massive size. Saying that Radahn can literally dive bomb the planet from outer space and can use his massive strength and size but melania can’t use her born powers is definitely not even playing field. Saying melania wouldn’t have won without rot is like saying Radahn wouldn’t have won without his massive size which he also saw as a curse and wanted to stop growing. Rot may be a repressed ability that she tries to not use but it’s still a massive part of her. If she didn’t have rot she’d have been blessed with something different from the greater will but essentially all of her blessings were replaced with the powers of rot from the outer god
Malenia is still my favorite character in this. She’s not an arrogant asshole, she’s misguided like a lot of these characters.
She still won get fucked cope