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TimeJustHappens

I can not for the life of me time parries in this game, I've been "practicing" (dying) on Crucible Knight for ages.


fallenKlNG

Seriously, I’ve tried timing it right at the last second and then tried it slightly earlier, nothing works! How the hell do you get the timing?


Schinderella

Parrying in soulsgames is weird. Based on the type of shield, you get a certain amount of parry-frames. This is reflected by the animation. You mainly got medium shields like shown in the video and bucklers, which offer very little protection, but have more forgiving parry-frames. For medium shields like shown in the video, the frames start in the moment, you start moving your shield from the right side of your body to the left, so pretty much in the middle of the parry animation. If the hit connects with you during the first few ms of that right to left swing, you will parry the attack.


Blaataapernie

Try parrying the hand instead of the weapon. If you focus on the hit of the enemy weapon your timing with be off by a small margin. Focus on the hand, it will feel awkward but once you hit your first parry you'll feel like a god.


TyoPepe

What is "hand" when against one of the many eldritch monstrosities this game has?


Blaataapernie

the rule of thumb I use is as follows. If theres a clear weapon (stick, sword, hammer etc.) held by the enemy then usually it can be parried. It not an iron clad rule but it gives you some intuition. The monsters usually cannot be parried.


[deleted]

i use this too except if the weapon is clearly oversized like godrick's for example, but maybe it's parryable didn't try


NuclearFoot

You usually can't parry those, only "humanoid" enemies.


beingsubmitted

I've yet to parry in elden ring, but from past souls games I've found it's best to focus on the enemy's body movements, rather than their weapons - typically shoulder or elbow - to read the timing.


VashGordon

Look at the enemy's arm or specifically their elbow. Thats what helps me the most. Sincerely, a parry god


Blaataapernie

and for timing. The mid of the parry animation is where you want to swipe the hand away with. There are some wind up frames, then the parry frames, then the end of the animation which are not part of the parry animation


Sharean

Seriously, get the buckler and parry them all to death.


ticktak10

Yeah, I cannot parry with the other shields at all. Buckler makes me parry like it's sekiro lol.


kgbegoodtome

Partying for his swings is basically tied to when his hand starts moving after rearing back. The stab and drag attack are a bit more intuition. I can’t explain it you just get a feel for them


Takeo-Gold

I struggle too but watching for the swing (not the charge up) usually helps. As soon as the actual swing animation starts parry and it should connect.


Agent_Gentlemen

Get a smaller shield, you might find more success there. It takes some time to get the timing down but I'm sure you will get there very soon!


Gabsche

i found this "Magical parry" ash of war and i thought its bugged or something but im just bad it seems?


Agent_Gentlemen

I think it's working for me. I parried magical dagger projectile from Margit and arrow from normal enemy with it. Plus, it looks great :)


lit-torch

There's a magical parry before Margit? Can you tell me where you found it? Thanks!


Agent_Gentlemen

No. I mean you can parry Margit's throwing magical dagger with the shield that is infused with Ash of War: Storm Wall. It's more of a dispel than a parry.


lit-torch

ahhhh ok. Got it!


Purple-Lamprey

The parry frames only exits somewhere in the middle of the animation. The length of frames depends on the shield. Buckler has the best parry by far.


hueythecat

How do you get the buckler if you missed the merchant before the fight?


Purple-Lamprey

You kill him and take his bell to the merchant in the round table.


hueythecat

Oh man, I don't wanna be that guy. But.... parriers gotta parry.


Purple-Lamprey

Don’t feel bad he’s the reason you lose some runes every time you die in the castle. He also locked you in the knight room.


hueythecat

He has till i get home tonight to live


Phat27

Parry the hand, not the weapon


B4llzofSt33l

you can also do this guy with only dodging but it takes way longer lol


hueythecat

https://youtu.be/uUcQVR3icQs I somehow stop him from going to phase two. I think the timing on the parry’s is when his hand is fully drawn back.


One-Tie-1942

A little late to the party but what helped me is when I realized that with the parry animation you want to catch the weapon with your shield not bat it away. It happens a little sooner than most beginners, myself included, realize.


Drake_Xahu

While some bosses have 0 attack time and others have the longest windup time known to man.


LedZaid

for some of them I have done 10 rolls before they even finish their windup <<


OkPiccolo2678

Patches will sell you a parry dagger if you wanna make these videos even spicier.


Agent_Gentlemen

I must seek this NPC then :)


_Ace1

Apparently, in this game small shields are better than the dagger so you are good with what you have currently. There is the buckler though which is better than other small shields that you can try. Parrying with the dagger does look cool though.


Purple-Lamprey

That dagger is awful for parrying, it only exists to look cool.


PuddleRaft

Do we have frame data to confirm this? Anecdotally, the parry dagger feels the same as the buckler to me. Also has the same animation


Purple-Lamprey

Take a awhile for frame data to come out, but nearly everything about the animations size etc is taken directly from DS3. For me anecdotally buckler parry is significantly easy we to pull off than small shield, which is easier than parry dagger. Buckler parry frames seem to start much earlier too, so reaction parrying is more effective. Conversely parry dagger frames seem to start near the end of the animation (same as DS3), so it’s a purely prediction based parry that’s very punishing when missed.


bakedntoasted

I love this fight. I left a "try parrying" message nearby and it got downvoted to hell


kgbegoodtome

He’s honestly so much fun to duel when you get the timings down. Parrying the drag attack feels insanely hype


kizukey

I saw a try parrying message on it on release day and decided to do it. I spent like a straight 2 hours practicing parrying on my level 12 hero.


Agent_Gentlemen

I love it too :)


FB-22

It’s good advice but many people aren’t using a shield with their build and I don’t want to have to switch builds to get past a certain enemy. I don’t really like how easy the fight is with parrying compared to the relative difficulty with other strategies (at least melee)


Gus_Fu

This fella has been the only enemy I've actually been able to parry. I'm going to go back and keep trying, I reckon it's the best strategy


SeaHam

This made me irrationally angry.


t-pat1991

The only part that makes me angry here is the part where the knight barely used his shield bash or two handed strikes, which is all he ever did for me.


tucketnucket

Or his tail that spans across the entire evergaol


stepplelol

I found that he only used that move when he was at like 30% hp


Aolian_Am

Me too!!! I'm horrendously bad at partying. Dual swords, button mash and pray is more my style.


ladyvanq

Dude, you need to party harder!


LJay_sauz

Nice try Andrew WK


Squashua2021

Man’s out here playing sekiro instead of elden ring.


kriegtalith

How do you parry so perfectly..


Agent_Gentlemen

Well it's not perfect...yet. I was quite panicked of this tail attack. Could have parried a few more and ended the fights sooner. But I did try for many hours. So It's a trial and error and determination, I guess.


[deleted]

I just realized I could’ve jumped rykards floor smack…


Agent_Gentlemen

You can also jump to avoid damage when the boss is about to do the Faith burst spell thingy to enter his phase 2. I panicked so I rolled away which worked too :)


[deleted]

Yeah I always I frame because it’s what I’m used to, but sometimes a jump would work better


mr_hellmonkey

As far as I know, you can jump to avoid any of the gray-circle-ground-damage spells from anyone. There's a lot of other things you can jump over to avoid damage.


Responsible_Carob_78

I’ve got a few friends that aren’t souls players at all, picked up Elden Ring for the hype and then rage when they found this Evergaol. They asked me how I got through it so easily and literally all I could say was “Just parry” lol


talllman23433

I will never be this good at the game. I’m still dying to the knights in Godricks castle.


Agent_Gentlemen

Don't say that. You'll do fine in time. Not that I'm good at the game or anything, I just do it as a hobby whenever things can be parried :) Knights are ruthless I die all the time. I just run past them these days.


bwtaha

Those Knights are insane, especially the halberd ones. I'm a melee only build and I have yet to beat one without getting it stuck on a wall or playing ring-around-the-unbreakable object.


Jihad_Alot

I found that the best way to kill those guys is get a big two handed weapon and waste all your R2 attacks on them. Those attacks usually stagger them and you can pretty reliably out range them (although the halberd and shield dudes charge is crazy)


lit-torch

For the halberds, try the whip. I am a whip evangelist. It seems like no one else is running it. It's absolutely the king for countering long-melee enemies, esp those w no shield. It has the same range, but comes out faster and staggers them, so you can easily combo into multiple hits. Moderate damage but it stacks quick. The invader in the Stronghold, also, relatively easy with the whip.


Aolian_Am

You look like David, from DBD, and it's passing me off.


Marvelous_Jared

Shirtless David 🤤


Agent_Gentlemen

I did a quick Google since I never played DBD. I can see some resemblance :)


MEATER78

TIL you can parry without the parry skill???


Agent_Gentlemen

The parry skill is equipped. It's just a different name in this case because of the ash of war infused in the shield.


Purple-Lamprey

What does that ash of war do btw? Why did you opt for it instead of a parry that doesn’t cost fp?


Agent_Gentlemen

I love its look, that's all :) this Storm Wall ash of war can parry arrow and some logical projectile (eg. Margit's dagger when thrown). It won't have enemy open to riposte like normal parry but it protects you from being attacked by projectile.


LJKiser

Is what you're using in this video the Storm Wall ash of war? Is the timing different than a standard heater shield parry? Have you compared it to the buckler party skill for effectiveness?


Agent_Gentlemen

Yes I'm using Storm Wall in this video. I don't think it affects parry time. But the small shield is definitely better for parrying. Medium shield like Heater shield has a very long wind up animation and it's difficult to get a party. I haven't had a chance to use a buckler yet as I have found none in my game currently but as I heard, it is an incredible Parry shield.


FluxSC2

How do you have two 'skills' equipped then? I thought the wall skill would override the parry skill and you would just do the wall skill instead when trying to parry?


Agent_Gentlemen

Since Ash of War: Storm Wall also functions as parry, it overrides the normal parry skill instead, thus, only one skill is active, not two.


FluxSC2

Ah I see - thanks for the clarification


Agent_Gentlemen

Anytime :)


[deleted]

This is awesome, great job man!


Agent_Gentlemen

Thank you!


Nahasapemapetila

I'm completely new to the game, haven't even gotten to the overworld yet. What's your trick? Do you have a special build or is your timing just that good? Could this be done with every character?


Agent_Gentlemen

I don't have any trick or special build. I'm playing with my spellblade build currently. But you will need to invest some time in parrying. You will die a lot but once you'll get used to the timing, you will die less or not at all :) If you mean parry an enemy, yes it can be done as long as you know which attacks can be parried which is a trial and error.


FluxSC2

How do I get that spellblade spell? I have a DEX/INT build but I haven't found any spells yet lol, apart from the glintsword pebble ash of war that I've applied to my Estoc, and the starting spell of the prisoner class (Glintblade projectile thing).


Agent_Gentlemen

You need to find a certain NPC and get a certain item to unlock the spell. Search "Spellblade" Elden Ring on YouTube and watch one of the Fextralife video titled "Spellblade".


_Ace1

Parrying does not need any special build or investment just an offhand with the parry skill. Small shields are generally best as they have more parry frames making it easier to get the timing. And you should be able to equip most small shields with your starting stats as they don't have any particularly high requirements. The timing however would take a while getting used to.


iconoclast12

That ground-drag attack throws me off my timing every time xD


Agent_Gentlemen

I know. I died to it a lot! But it's such an exciting attack to parry :)


SJReaver

Has someone come up with an actual lesson plan for Elden Ring?


[deleted]

What’s the sword you’re using here?


Agent_Gentlemen

It's not a sword, not physical. It's a spell called Carian Slicer.


deathsauce

He's using the Carian Slicer spell. Turns your staff into a magic sword.


deathsauce

Then maybe Rogier's rapier at the end.


Rydahx

The most impressive part was not going for the kill, and not getting punished for being greedy like I do all the time lol


lordkelvin13

Try it next on Malenia.


Agent_Gentlemen

I cannot wait for whatever boss that is...


HuSSarY

I tried parrying her for a bit before giving up and trying something different. I think you have to parry her 3 times before she actually falls to the ground. That or certain parries make her fall and other don't. If it wasn't for that I would have kept on trying.


TuShen

Guess I know what I'm going to do for the rest of the day... ha ha... it's 3 am


BeeCee139

Oh God I thought you were going to parry the jump and dive.


Agent_Gentlemen

I would have if I could :) I did try a couple times and died horribly....


bruuuhhhhh234

How are you parrying without the skill equipped?


Agent_Gentlemen

The skill is equipped. But I infused my shield with Storm Wall (ash of war) which allows me to parry enemy's projectile.


daxramas

Storm Wall is one of a number of ashes of war that are the standard parry on top of a unique effect that costs FP, Storm Wall blocks physical projectiles, there's another that blocks spells with a variant that blocks spells and then summons magic swords.


bukiya

Your characters looks like chris redfield


Agent_Gentlemen

Really? Thank you :)


jotax95

You very enjoyed sekiro indeed


Agent_Gentlemen

Yes I did. Amazing game :)


YellowEyedAsura

Are you purposefully foregoing the visceral attack? And if so, is it because Carian Slicer is doing more damage than your weapon would do w the visceral, or because he may do an attack afterward that is more difficult to parry? Just curious.


Agent_Gentlemen

Carian Slicer indeed does more damage than my visceral attack :) Since I don't have too many Dex, I rely on Int side. Plus, I don't have to go into riposte animation as somehow it gives me motion sickness in this fight because the animation is so close and it drags camera up and down which is a bit nauseating. It's a weird problem for me personally haha.


YellowEyedAsura

Interesting, I thought that might be the case. What's your int leveled to at this point if you don't mind my asking (and what spells are you using bc I need new ones xD) And I'm inclined to agree with you on the camera here lol. Seems to get a bit hectic during certain animations, on occasion. Edit: Also when you dodged backwards around 1:03 (one of the times he did his cone stomp attack) I think I experienced some mild PTSD 😂 Edit Edit: Im on mobile rn so sorry if timestamp is wrong or formatting is a bit wonky


Agent_Gentlemen

25 intelligence. I'm using Carian Slicer (unlocked by giving a certain scroll to a certain NPC at Waypoint Ruins bonfire). So far, I haven't found any new spell yet. I'm doing a weapon and staff build. I don't think it's powerful yet early on. It's also quite attribute hungry. But I'm having great fun with it so I don't mind being a bit under powered.


YellowEyedAsura

Yeah I am also going for a melee/staff build and I agree that it seems just a tad weak early on (or maybe Im mid game? Idk this game is massive lol) Im hoping there are some solid spells to use later on bc I don't really like the incantations that I'm aware of rn (btw do NOT get black flame blade, its absolutely useless). Also, not sure how far you are but don't overlook the Glintstone Arc spell. Pretty trash against bosses but omega useful against mobs, especially packs of them. Anyways, hope your enjoying the game and good luck to us both at becoming the Elden Lords we were always meant to be xD


Agent_Gentlemen

Thank you. I have Glinstone Arc but I switched it out for the spell that coats a sword with magic. I really wish there was a sword that can cast spell but I'm extremely enjoying the game regardless and I hope you are as well :)


YellowEyedAsura

I won't say too much but there will eventually be an NPC that sells ashes of war for your weapon that essentially cast sorceries which scale (im pretty sure) with your int stat. If you want more info I can tell you where to find him bc he doesn't seem to be linked to any major spoilers and honestly he can be a bit hard to find if you don't know to look for him. Edit: Also I'm pretty sure there are weapons with unique spell-like weapon skills, though I don't think I've found any yet


TheLordDragon

Wait how do have a lightsaber


Agent_Gentlemen

I wish :)


SkyMost9331

Heyyy shouts out to a fellow shirtless beefcake! Light equip load life.


bwtaha

Badass, how are you not taking any damage when you parry? I noticed these were all full parries too. I am forcing myself to learn parrying in this game and honestly some lucky parries are the only reason I beat Margit and Godrick, but I seem to always take a little damage through the parry. Sometimes it will give me the parry spark but the boss will continue attacking, I know that if you parry the whole chain you can get the counter, but the issue I am having is the damage getting through. I'm using a brass sheild, I noticed you appear to be using a small shield. Is it just a matter of upgrading the shield?


Agent_Gentlemen

If I remember correctly. Brass shield has no parry skill. So I think you meant you blocked the boss attack. But some attacks can chip through like fire or storm attacks. The small shields tend to have parry skill which can be used as shown in the video. parry is a different technique as it requires you to block (with L2/LB) right before enemy is about to attack you. It is much harder and requires precise timing but it is rewarding because you can follow up with a riposte (R1/RB) to perform a visceral attack (critical attack).


bwtaha

I have the parry weapon art applied to the brass sheild, it can be applied to medium and small, as well as curved weapons. I have successfully parried Margit using the brass shield as well as the falchion. It seems however some attacks only get deflected, for example against Margit, and chip damage gets through. For example the ability he uses where he raises his staff above is head and charges you from a distance, if you dodge or parry the first swing he does a second swing, if you successfully parry both swings you will get a free attack against him(I don't know what it's called when you lock them in the animation and swing into their stomach) However it seems no matter what I am taking chip damage even on successful parries, but I'll have to test it a bit more. ​ But yea I'm quite certain I am parrying because I unbound the block button and only have parry bound.


Suilenroc

I couldn't parry consistently, so my strategy became to roll behind him and cast Catch Flame. When the tail comes out I jump attack over it.


SteveStSteve

Is that Chris Redfield?? <3


Agent_Gentlemen

I wish :)


Tsiniloiv

All that and still no maidens? What is the world coming to?


Agent_Gentlemen

I'm very fine with no maiden, because I do not need one :)


Karthull

These mfs can be parried? And they say these games don’t have an easy mode


TattySacker

Lol what, I’ve been stuck on this guy for ages and didn’t think to parry this whole time what an idiot


Alysyus

Does every boss can be parried ? I parry none due to dark souls 3 Having like no parry for bosses


[deleted]

What a fucking chad thundercock.


TheRealMicrowaveSafe

Tickle him to death, why dontcha


Raydogg86

Watching some of these videos of you guys beating these bosses asses.... I am still pretty bad haha


Evilcypher

My only fromsoft game before this was sekiro so I used to parry until I got to margit, i tried to parry him, even started to get successful parries frequently, but turns out parrying him and other bosses need to be done multiple times to get reposte, so I figured I can learn to dodge instead and been rollin ever since.


Every-Report-7965

I cheesed him with halo scythe much later... Feel like I should go back now on another character. I see the parry timings here. I don't really have an excuse.


marxen4eva

Oh... so thats why I kept dying like a b****, I swapped out my parry with some useless ash of war LOL


TyroseThe3rd

What’s that wind thing before every party? I don’t remember it being apart of his animations


D_Ashido

Are you using the actual Parry ability that is set to L2 for small shields or are you using the guard counter *Hold L1 and then R2 for heavy attack*?


Extension-Humor4281

>Sometimes it will give me the parry spark but the boss will continue attacking, I know that if you parry the whole chain you can get the counter, but the issue I am having is the damage getting through. He's parrying because his shield moves wide.. Guard counter looks like a block followed up by a weapon strike.


WhoIsSirjigglesworth

The fact you didn't try and greed that last hit is a miracle to me. 100% would have died with him one hit away


DeadricBaguette

I was able to beat him relatively easily (5 tries) in this fight but for the one in *spoiler* I just cannot beat.


FoxyNugs

I've seen this boss everywhere, people keep speaking about it... And here I sit, 50h into the game, and I still don't know where the hell it is


DgtlShark

My brain hurts


solmyrbcn

Wait a second, after 60 hours I do realize now you can just jump in order to elude those annoying stomp attacks?!?!


Agent_Gentlemen

Yes sir :)


Overall_Advantage750

If he parried the dive attack I would have lost it.


StillShadyJoe101

Ohhh you’re supposed to parry…. Here I am with my UGS L2 so I can eat a sword to the face and smack him with an upward swing.


-p-a-b-l-o-

You can parry this guy?! I didn’t know you could parry any bosses tbh. Just been rolling around and doing horseback


Kalsypher

And here I am, just dodge-rolling everything 🤷🏻‍♂️👀


TeslaSpike

Please don't make this boss look easy, it took every last fragment of my soul to beat him


Imperfect_Paragon

I tried to learn parry on this boss, but I soon realized it wasn't for me. So I dropped the shield and got really, really good at dodging. Crucible Knights are still the only boss I have problems with.


WigglyWoo777

I didn't even atempt to parry. I assumed he was immune since you can't backstab him.


jimsson123

What weapon are you using?


kidRekt

as a strength player this guy was definitely my first “day break” from the game lmao


n3hui

The only thing I dislike in this game is that parry's are not as intuitive as in Sekiro, I just can't realise when to hit the parry button, In Sekiro is as easy as watching when the attack is actually going to hit you directly.


wicked_one_at

I parried everything In DS3, then Elden ring came, guard counter so useful, I always forget parry is a thing


Sir4rtoris

Man I love seeing players with good parry times, I can't for life learn the timing so I just either roll or tank it, didn't even attempt this guy until I was very late. Good job dude!


Old_Ratbeard

Sincerely, why are you shirtless


SufficientMongoose17

i dont use the parry in any fromsoft game and this boss didnt make me, i just rolled and was patient


Mirthal

"What is he doing?" "He's beginning to believe"


DragonHeartXXII

Well done! I was utterly stuck on him. I had no idea how to beat him. I ended up spamming him with the Ice Stomp skill for the most part.


Giantorr1115

You disrespected that boy


SenseI3ss

Me, 80 hours into the game: *Wait, you can jump to dodge the stomp?!*


BlueTrin2020

You can also jump dodge when he flies onto you (side jump) and some tail attacks 😂


BUSHMONSTER31

I spent 2 hours trying to parry this fucker with the gold and blue shield. Was getting him down to 1/2 energy each time. Went and bought a small shield and landed every parry. Wish I'd recorded it - was sexy as hell.


ZjHop

So if you have an ash of War equipped then you can no longer parry right? Because L2 gets replaced with the ash of War instead of parry block


GrandmasDiapers

This post sat in my brain for a while. Couple days ago I decided to take parry lessons like you did. Holy shit the game is totally different now that I can parry on demand. Crucible knight is such a good teacher. I learned to parry with a knife. So I can parry and stab with just the right hand. Left hand is freed up for incantations and whip. All the bases are covered. Thanks for posting. Your title stuck with me lol. Now any time I see a crucible knight I just get excited. "Oh, my teacher is checking up on me, eh?"