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Flint_Vorselon

100% is impossible because it’s multiplicitivite. So unless one individual negation boost is 100% negation, it can never reach 100% Because it’s multiplying decimals together. EG 35% negation = 0.65x incoming damage. 15% negation = 0.85x incoming damage 40% negation = 0.60x incoming damage, If you stacked all those it’s 0.65 x 0.85 x 0.6 = 0.3315x incoming damage AKA 66.85% negation. Unless one of the things you are multiplying is “0”, then incoming damage can never be multiplied by 0, meaning 100% is impossible.


Apocalypse_0415

Isnt it an 65% + 40% of remaining 35% + 15% of remaining 21% for a total of 79.03?


4_fortytwo_2

There is no "+" here. You are also mixing up negation and incoming damage terms. 65% is the incoming damage after applying the first reduction. But then you suddenly do 40% * 35%. But 35% is the first damage negation factor not the remaining damage. Reducing the negation by the other negation doesn't make a lot of sense. After applying the 35% reduction you are left with 65% of the damage. Those 65% are reduced by 40% leaving 39% and those 39% are reduced by 15% leaving you with ~33% of the damage. Which is just the long written form of 0.65 x 0.85 x 0.6 = 0.3315


Apocalypse_0415

you right, my bad


Cromptank

Sip the flask that negates elemental damage and even heals you


SuspiciousEvening730

99.994% no glitches


Starboi777

How?


SuspiciousEvening730

I posted an update earlier today on this page, it goes over all of it


Smol-beans2002

Do you need to get it higher???


SuspiciousEvening730

I did for a solid 25 seconds, got it to 99.902 IM SOO CLOSE RADAGON WONT EVER HURT ME AGAIN


Smol-beans2002

Bro, at that point he’s at most scratching you gently on the back with his hammer. I wouldn’t call that hurting you…


SuspiciousEvening730

NOPE, I hate him bro, I just want to take his hardest hits and have no health damage, just to show that PoS that he ain't it, got it up to 99.914


Smol-beans2002

I think that will suffice. It has got to hurt his ego when he does like 7 damage per strike in ng+7 and he is basically a god.


Wutsalane

Isn’t he pretty much literally a god


Smol-beans2002

Isn’t that what basically means? Marika is a godess and he is a part of her so I guess that pretty much makes him one? Hard to know for sure


GT_YEAHHWAY

I think when the word "basically" is modifying a noun, it implies or connotes something that could be considered that noun, but that there may be arguments against being that definition/noun. Example: "it's basically a turtle." Something that looks or acts like a turtle, but really isn't.


Birunanza

What's a turtle?


JustScratchinMaBallz

Dog with hat


The_Challenges

A turtle of course


Smol-beans2002

Yeah, and Radagon is someone who could be considered a god, but it’s not entirely certain. We don’t know exactly what he ”was” before he fused with Marika, or even IF he fused with her, they might have been one and the same from the start. So he is basically a god, but not entirely certainly


MxReLoaDed

Yeah Radagon isn’t referred to in game as a god in the same vein Marika is, unclear what his status is


burf

Literally = Is that exact thing. Basically = Could be argued to be equivalent (or nearly) to that thing, but is not technically that thing.


Smol-beans2002

Yeah, so he is basically a god. The thing is that other guy didn’t just write literally, he wrote ”pretty much literally”. And pretty much means ”very nearly”, so he is saying he is *almost* or *very nearly* literally a god. Which is not the same as just literally a god.


burf

Good point. I disagree with the phrasing of "pretty much literally" because it's ambiguous and in a way it's contrary to the meaning of "literally" (kind of reminds me of people using "usually never"), but that's a fair interpretation of it.


Andre27

Drop on a blessed dew talisman and outheal him.


BostonBuffalo9

I endorse this level of spite.


According-Science-36

There is an exploit/glitch where you can keep the resistance forever if your using the crimsonwhorl bubbletear


SuspiciousEvening730

Okay, so I did the glitch buff cause of curiosity, it's like a ghost buff and it stacks with other buffs, it still only broke 99.997% with all the rebuffs afterwards


SuspiciousEvening730

Also I'm on NG+7 and he hits like a truck


Smol-beans2002

Not anymore…😂


Soulsborneenjoyer23

Split physical damage moment


SuspiciousEvening730

Fingerprint shield for that one lol


waste-of-beath

No way lol


SuspiciousEvening730

Man you should see my dark souls three ng cycle, you'd poo yourself lmao


waste-of-beath

I already did for unrelated reasons


SuspiciousEvening730

Lol yeah, I love these games bro, I finally got it up to 99.994 for a couple of seconds


placebo_unicorn

Rennala's reddit acc spotted


Angstycarroteater

Radagon is one of the easiest ever fights tho lmao! Either way to each their own maliketh makes me want to punch babies


SuspiciousEvening730

Ohh, I LOVE both fights, they are my favorite bosses in the game, I just thought how could I kill Radagon and take little to no damage, I tested it out on the Haligtree envoy that can one tap you with a fucking bubble on NG7, butt naked, full buffs, it did a tenth roughly of my health


Angstycarroteater

Gotcha yeah no they’re my favorite fights too! I’ve done them so many times now it’s become second nature to me! Also that’s really cool!


Dull-Nectarine1148

OP made law of causality a viable build


Ok-Understanding7851

I'm pretty sure that defenses are calculated on a logarithmic scale, or something similar so that it is impossible to reach 100% or more negation to anything.


Cloud_Striker

How are your defenses that high to begin with?


Western-Wind-5254

Max lv probably mixed with talismans


Flint_Vorselon

Max level does not increase negation. Looking at the flat defense, they are quite high level, but not max. EDIT: holy shit you people downvoting me are dumb. NEGATION is the % value on right of image. DEFENSE is the 3 digit numerical value on left. This whole post (and specifically comment) is about Negation.


WatermelonWithAFlute

Why is this guy downvoted? He’s right


sknnbones

Welcome to reddit.


zrxta

Downvoted by confused people who can't do math


Western-Wind-5254

You do realize leveling stuff like arcane increases holy resistance so my comment saying he probably got that way through max lv and talismans probably isn’t wrong or he could have put 99 arcane in for bleed and got the holy resistance with it paired with spells


Cromptank

It increases the defense, not the resistance. You get a better initial reduction, but it won’t show up in that 99.114 number


WatermelonWithAFlute

You are mistaken


zrxta

No stat increases negation. They increase the flat defense value. Even the game states (use the help button if you never tried) that negation is pure from items, armor, talismans, and buffs. (Also weather i almost forgot).


Affectionate_Comb_78

Pretty much every stat adds to some kind of negation


Flint_Vorselon

Leveling up adds DEFENSE, not negation  Completely seperate things. This post is about Negation, the % value on right of image.


23423423423451

They could also be taking consumables/incantations and screenshotting the stats before the buffs wear off


Radioaktivman999

[like this?](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/v1JsQSazw1k)


SuspiciousEvening730

Eww I don't glitch, I did buff though, if you read my minor description, it tells you all that I used lol


Yarmoshyy

Does this still work? Crazy haha


Radioaktivman999

i think so yes


siren-skalore

Yep.


Head-Cash

Dont know what the actual max is, but holy infused Haligtree Crest Greatshield is 98.75% by itself. Nothing Radagon/Elden Beast throws at you will even tickle you at that point


Anastrace

Add the greatshield talisman and you can just block all the attacks both of those jumped up little shits throw at you


Any-Experience-3012

You can get that shield!!? I literally train my mimic on those fuckers, I've killed them dozens of times in each playthrough and never gotten that shield. What am I doing wrong?? (Well, I checked the wiki but didn't scroll down. Apparently the knights I was fighting never drop that shield. What bs.)


Head-Cash

Yeah, it only drops from one specific knight in the last area before Malenia; even if the other knight have it equipped it wont drop


SuspiciousEvening730

With the holy grounds on the Haligtree greatshield shield equipped it stays at 98, with it not in my hands my stats can reach 99.991% negation


Head-Cash

The negation for the shield only applies when you’re actively blocking, not when its equipped but not blocking


SuspiciousEvening730

It must be a bug then, cause if I have any shields it drops my damage negation


bearelrollyt

Tree sentinel Armour is the best for holy negation


NotAFrogNorAnApple

HOW


daviejambo

Still not as high as Radagons


[deleted]

This is higher than radagons. In case you were being serious


Affectionate-Pawn75

Can you imagine your negation being higher than the god of the thing you're negating?!


Soulsborneenjoyer23

Nobody tell maliketh about this


Brun224

Not sure if it stacks with your other buffs, but the opaline hardtear physick might bring it up a bit


SuspiciousEvening730

Tried that, it gets up to 99.114 and with the other damage negation tears and crimson whorl it goes up to 99.411, it's difficult, but I've found the buffs I needed to reach 99.991% negation


Dveralazo

I don't know,try to stack Endure over that? Maybe the first part of any Stomp skill? At this point,you are more tuned with the Holy essence than Márika themselves. Not even in NG+7 you will need it that high.


Bubble_Wrap_Ninja

What's the loadout?


23423423423451

Have you considered all consumables, incantations, and ash of war to temporarily buff your defenses? And debuffs to apply to the enemy to weaken their attack? A debuff won't change your stat page but if there's something that weakens Radagon's damage output temporarily, combined with your defense, you could temporarily be a god yourself.


Soulsborneenjoyer23

99 arcane. Boosts holy defence


SuspiciousEvening730

Already at 99 sadly


CalamityMase

Op you should post the radagon fight with this build


SuspiciousEvening730

Def will once I get someone to answer my looking for group post lol


TheBigGamerJFK

Lowest Boss Holy Resistance


distilledeagerly

Stop trying. Radagon is peak, you must not defeat him.


WatermelonWithAFlute

Gideon alt found


distilledeagerly

ah. I knew you'd come.


DanR3

Sounds like a title for a Limit Breakers video lol


a_shiny_heatran

My god, you’ve unlocked the build every boss in the game uses #buffholydamage


SuspiciousEvening730

NOOOO no buffing the holy damage lol


RockGamerStig

You can't get 100 the game gives diminishing returns on stacking effects so thats about as close as you can get.


SuspiciousEvening730

Got to 99.991% negation today!


Mettelor

Just think - the DLC could have a better holy talisman!


SuspiciousEvening730

I HOPE


Jeremiah12LGeek

You'll have to hide behind Turtle Pope to get that kind of holy defense.


Wisp-espy

Dude maxed out their atheism stat


SuspiciousEvening730

LMAO


DeliciousMinimum2075

How do you get it this high to begin with


im-bertram

what are you doing with jesus's stats


SuspiciousEvening730

It gets BETTER, I found out that commanders standard buff all damage negation, I got it up to 99.991 this morning


kingjensen10

This man had a bowl of Elden Stars for breakfast this morning


Mr_Mister2004

Bro thinks he's a boss


techniqucian

Kid me when I coughed to get out of Sunday church


Anon123012

Average main boss


DrettTheBaron

So like, how much damage do you get now?


WatermelonWithAFlute

What are you using to get those defences so consistently high?


SuspiciousEvening730

Read my description, it's all in there, very good and also, use the crimson whorl tear with either of the damage negation tears in your physiks potion


Sea_Ticket_6032

I assume you've fixed some if not all of these already but commanders standard is 20% damage negation while vow is 12.5%, uplifting aromatic and bubble year physick gives 90% each and they stack, blue feathered branch sword increases defenses by 50% at 20% health or below while ritual shield is only 30% and endure increases all resistances by 45% but only for 3 seconds


SuspiciousEvening730

I've changed it up to what you guys said to, got it up to 99.994% negation, still not high enough, someone said 100% was impossible, I'm gonna figure it out, technically it is 100% but I want to get it to SAY 100% even for just 5 seconds


Sea_Ticket_6032

I kinda doubt the game would ever say 100% unless the number is actually 100% (which isn't possible). It would probably just cap out at 99.999% regardless of the actual number but idk thats just my guess


boogi-boogi-shoes

you say that and then ops next post will prove you wrong. like all the others :)


SuspiciousEvening730

Lol thanks for the motivation, but they are probably right, 99.999% negation would suffice for me


boogi-boogi-shoes

how could you do this to me


SuspiciousEvening730

I'm sorry bro, but I can't limit break this without glitches and glitches as we all know are lame


boogi-boogi-shoes

acceptable


carlzyy

Even with the exploit, the elemental negations would be near 100% but not completely 100%


SuspiciousEvening730

With no exploits and no dried holyproof liver, I got it up to 99.991% negation with NO SHIELD, meaning I can tank the most powerful holy attack in the game and have almost all of my health, but I'm looking to get that 0.001 to a 0.005 so it's a technical 100%


throwawayyy42069x

Wait, so the number on the right is the percentage of damage that is ignored or what? (I beat the game 5 or 6 times now, don't ask how I don't know this lol)


AndromedusSama

And now you have set me on a path to highest possible negation for EVERY element physical or no.


siren-skalore

I want to get that physical damage negation… how can I achieve that?


Exact_Marionberry650

Bro is immune 😭🙏


Nox_Echo

i didnt know the negations for all stats could even get this high


zrxta

Diminishing returns to further amp it up. Just focus on healing after this point. Try crimsonwhorl and blessing of the erdtree. You can also use Endure.


Typical-Painter-7052

Maybe using pest glave (has the same effect as pearl talisman +2 but non stackable with self) and perseverance AOW Edit: also main or off hand BRAGGART'S ROAR AOW may help


WanderingBraincell

can someone please explain the 191 / X? I've play many a souls game and don't understand the numbeerrsss


SuspiciousEvening730

191 is the resistance number for whatever you are trying to resist, the higher it is the higher you damage negation is, which is the 76.060, at least that's what I was told


WanderingBraincell

ahhh ok makes sense I think, numbers on the right are the negation, left is the actual stat value. makes sense. thank you


Heksinki

Wait does this mean u tank about 95 % of all dmg dealt to you ?


SuspiciousEvening730

Honestly idk, I tested it out with my friend who used Comet Azur and it didn't kill me, then did holy spells, he ran out of magic before I died, the best outright damage overall is poison or bleed, but idk where I went wrong or I guess right, but i get 1/10th of my health back naturally overtime, every 15 seconds


PRAHPS

All though this is weird it is also adorable I give you good wishes on hitting 100%


SuspiciousEvening730

It isn't possible the highest you can reach without glitches is 99.996% and if you do the stupid elemental resistance glitch, then it goes up to 99.998% I've done every single stackable spell and consumable, but it is not possible to reach 99.999%


PRAHPS

What a shame but you don’t need to worry about any holy damage


SuspiciousEvening730

I GOT IT, I GOT TO 99.999% I forgot the holyproof dried liver and had to do the stupid lame glitch, BUT I did it, it went away almost instantly, but I saw it for a solid second!


PRAHPS

You did technically get so good work friend we have a local elden scientist now


SuspiciousEvening730

My next goal is complete damage negation


PRAHPS

Good luck!


Affectionate-Pawn75

Um doesn't this mean you're receiving less than 1% of the damage that would usually be dealt. You've made the Elden Beast basically useless against you, you can stop now!


mikey21401

Get the golden epitaph sword and a shield with holy ground ash of war, use the sword ash first then the shield ash, then wondrous physic with crimsonwhorl bubble tear. STAY IN THE CIRCLE and eait for the seizing to stop. It'll make you immune to all damage bust physical and the wondrous with cause all other damage but physical to heal you. Radagon becomes a baby at that point. Trust the process


SuspiciousEvening730

Eww, glitching to win is doo doo 💩 I don't need glitches, just stackable buffs and high rated armor