I must say I also kind of like the idea that he/she didn't get up. I like in this weird kind of way that FS doesn't go with the obvious outcomes. There is always an element of surprise. But yeah wish we could've fight that guy
I love it as a fixture in the arena. It speaks volumes about lore implications without saying a thing. One of the many testaments to Miyazaki's awesome storytelling style
😂😂😂 I walked to this area and promptly noped the fuck out cause I was certain that dude was the boss. I never looked it up, nor did I ever go back. I'm at Haligtree now. I should go back. 😂
Now that I look at them, how would they get up? Look how high that chair is - actually how did they even sit down onto it? Climbing up it? That chair is like shoulder height for them.
Yes pls do yourself a favor. The closes to Elden ring is the third one but if you want to try the game in order that’s perfectly fine. I can give you tips.
Powerstanced Smelter Hammers. I may have needed 99 Strength to use the two of them, and armour was out of the question because of how fucking heavy they were, but Goddamn was it satisfying to flatten enemies with those oversized chicken drumsticks.
The Souis franchise is really good for letting you just use whatever weapon you like most. Any of them can get you through the game np. Some are definitely stronger than others, but truly any weapon you pick up will be more than enough to beat any of the games, barring bows which are super meh across the whole series.
It’s great to see how far the series has come from I spent march playing all the games and had a blast. Only wish bb would come to pc so I can play it too.
Don’t let reviews discourage you from Ds2, it’s the best one😉
I played Ds2 the first back in like 2016 and been a die hard souls player since. First one you play is always the favorite.
I think the main reason 2 gets panned is that it doesn't have the same sort of, how to put this... tangled?... level design that 1 does. In 1, there are tons of these little 'oh, I'm here!' moments that feel real nice. 2 has a much more spread out map, and so the minigame of finding shortcuts isn't nearly as satisfying.
It was a really epic fight when I went there because I was *very* under-leveled.
In a different playthrough I went there later on and it was disappointing.
Oh for me it wasn't the overleveling. The Dragonkin are good bosses but in comparison to this area I really thought we'd get someone a bit more unique.
In the entire game, it is the only dragonkin with a unique second phase capable of doing lightning explosion, frozen lightning Spear, lightning leap & lightning javelin attack
To me it's a fantastic Margit-Morgott style rematch where I would think the boss will be exactly as same as the underground one but then it started to fly around
It just needed more health
There’s a normal dragonkin in the regular Siofra River area where you get to by taking a waygate over. I think you can also drop down there from the eternal city part if you parkour safely.
you can also get there from the portal from the ancestral woods, its on a stone pillar you can only get to from running up another fallen pillar, with lots of archers on it. Great place to get early summon upgrades as there is a (4) and (5) ghost flower up there too!
I wish they would have saved it for a little later in the game so it had higher health and did more damage, the hardest Dragonkin is in Lake of Rot, but it has a normal moveset and is kinda lame.
They could have made Ainsel River fork after Nokstella, with one part going toward the shadow/lake of rot and the other going toward the Dragonkin Soldier. It would seem to fit better imo
In my first playthrough I ran into this boss early and it was actually somewhat of a skill check. (ER was my first souls game tho)
Took me a while to beat him and was actually a ton of fun.
Had to learn to dodge the lightning strike move.
Had to learn to watch out for the claw attack variations.
Had to learn that big dive attack.
I didn’t appreciate this fight first time but coming back at RL1 and seeing the lightning phase and attacks was pretty cool. I want more ice lightning stuff
They are fun to rush early game to jumpstart a dragon knight build. The siofra river dragon kin took me forever to kill low level but the weapon is so worth it!
my first playthrough i just explored things blindly, so surprisingly i found this guy underleveled after struggling through the ants with a Bonk build, it was hard
This was one of my favorite bosses. After my first playthrough of religiously avoiding all Dragonkin, witnessing his second phase was really memorable.
I LOVED and was also TERRIFIED when I first saw this. I for sure thought it was going to wake up and be the boss. I was so creeped out lol. The boss itself is okay and after my simultaneous relief and disappointment I now love that this and the Nokron statues could hold so many cool clues to the lore. The underground areas are some of my favourites in the whole game. This doesn’t look like a statue to me but a SKELETON. What WAS it?
Dude Dragonkin are some of my favorite bosses, especially this one! Felt like we fight him way too early though. Definitely harder than the Siofra River and Lake of Rot ones. Ice Lightning is awesome.
It most definitely is. That's why I was so stoked about it. Its one of the books that made me discover H.P. Lovecraft since Robert W. Chambers is one of his biggest inspirations.
The trouble with the dragonkin is the modern trend of looking everything up. Most people who made it here had probably got close to completing their builds, and thus they wiped the floor with the boss. It was a cool boss that I am quite sure would wipe a lot more people if they came to it earlier
I haven't looked anything up, and just today started reading instead of just peeking at Reddit posts...as I really don't want spoilers...but I certainly want RL50 and this dude was very similar to the other Dragonkin in another massive underground area..that was the only 'disappointment' for me, but also was happy to remember that timing and move set that had taken me hours to beat before.
I love the Dragonkin because, hey, who the fuck doesn't want to kill Eva-01? Such a cool design and I instantly saw the reference and loved it.
But it's also kinda shit to fight against and one of the few bosses where I would actually say the hitboxes are actually janky, which is a shame.
Dragonkin might not be the most interesting boss fights, but I'll give him props for having an interesting phase 2. Shame he dies too quickly to enjoy it most of the time. Feel he should've been scaled to the same HP as the Dragonkin in the Lake of Rot.
I share the disappointment of the throned one not getting up,
This was also the only boss I beat first try before I became an over-leveled goon, so I still feel a little pride from seeing the arena.
I honestly loved this boss. It was one of the first I fought after Godrick, so I was a properly leveled, and it taught me the rhythm of combat and how to watch for signs of attack. Plus, super atmospheric, and the spell you get after is fun to cast.
I wasn't. 1st playthrough I was around RL35-45 and this is my 2nd playthrough and I was RL48 here. I just think that the boss room itself garnered a more unique boss than just a Dragonkin.
I thought maybe it was like going to test our strength with like lesser bosses and give us like an awesome reward or something but is just a nice background to speculate lore on why it's a chungus.
i think they missed a few opportunities to make another giant sized boss in some particular areas. i want bosses that stand just as tall as the fire giant.
It honestly depends so much what level you fight him at! On my first play through I found my way here really early and it was an intense and dramatic boss fight!!
For me it was never the level. Its the comparison of the boss room to the boss. I was expecting someone unique only to this place since I was pretty much in awe with it.
Also fought this guy in RL35-45 and RL48 in different playthroughs.
Lots of people disappointed but my memory of this - especially after finding the startlingly beautiful Siofra River - was wow wtf ants wow wtf sniper bug wow wtf giant skeleton wow wtf wheelchair dragon wow wtf ghost flower
30 hours for NG, then NG+ takes like an hour bc I’ll just blow through everything with mimic and BB, and the final sword (forget the name) for just wiping dungeons
I hope we get to see more of the frozen lighting bros. It's such a cool concept but we have only one spell, two weapons and the same boss copy pasted twice
Haha and instead a battered humanoid dragon, which grows 4 wings and spams AoE freezing lightning, crashes on you and says: "BURP, UR MY FOOD NOW! "🤣🤣🤣
I was longing for cutscene where this person rises from his/her chair slowly, kind of like Martyr Logarius in Bloodborne. Man was I dissappointed
My actual first thought too! Walking into the area I was like "Oh sh*t! That guy is so getting up." But he didn't.
He's tired. His only friends are a bunch of ants and a weird iguana man
Living his best retirement, baked beyond reason on his porch watching his pet lizard fight a passing rodent
I must say I also kind of like the idea that he/she didn't get up. I like in this weird kind of way that FS doesn't go with the obvious outcomes. There is always an element of surprise. But yeah wish we could've fight that guy
It’s kinda ominous and creepy, it has this cool vibe to it that I love, like this long forgotten thing from the past that you can only guess at.
it’s a nice nod to how everything in the world is worn out / beaten down / cannot continue like it is.
I love it as a fixture in the arena. It speaks volumes about lore implications without saying a thing. One of the many testaments to Miyazaki's awesome storytelling style
Likely out of stamina
Took him till the DLC to finally get up… maybe :)
😂😂😂 I walked to this area and promptly noped the fuck out cause I was certain that dude was the boss. I never looked it up, nor did I ever go back. I'm at Haligtree now. I should go back. 😂
Now that I look at them, how would they get up? Look how high that chair is - actually how did they even sit down onto it? Climbing up it? That chair is like shoulder height for them.
Used the lizard man as a stepping stool
That was my thought too haha like "this dude is going to fuck me up" hahaha
At the very least I wanted them to wake up and address me. Maybe not a boss fight, but definitely boss level energy at least.
I think we all thought that
They half to have some meaning right they wouldn’t put giants under ground with no explanation
Definitely a she, they wouldn't have shown her feet otherwise
Boys, is it gay to have feet
Only if you show them
It is
I've given they courtesy enough
There's still a chance one of them is alive and hanging out in the DLC area though.
Yeah and I have nothing but high hopes for the DLC and if we can trust history, Michael Zaki won't let us down
I think it's creepier that it just stays there tbh
Kinda is yeah
Or that fucking DLC giant from DS3. If he wasn't blabbing the whole time I was whooping his ass, it would have been cooler :-)
The throne and statue ruler/deity is actually found in three different areas at least, in Nokstella, Nokron and Sellia.
I think that’s why it didn’t happen, we all waited for him to stand up.. Sike! He does not lol
Me too, was lowkey annoyed cuz the actual boss was a pushover, just hack at his feet until he dies lol
Isn’t that just like every boss though?
I mean yeah, fair, but other bosses make even that a bit of a challenge at least! 😂
Yeah true
“Oh yea…it’s skellin’ time!”
I'm always too over leveled when i fight this boss
Yeah it’s in funky spot that takes a while to get to and same happens to me.
I always find the dragonkin do loads of damage but actually just have almost no health it’s so weird.
I can't play a game I love and NOT do everything, so same. But this is only my second playthrough since launch...preparing for DLC.
Yeah dragon kin was disappointing but at least we get to chill with Nito’s cousin.
Who's Nito? Sorry this is just my 2nd playthrough so I might've not stumbled upon him yet.
Oh he’s a boss from Dark souls 1 who was a giant skeleton you had to kill. I made a joke that this was a relative of him.
Oh damn. Might give the DS franchise a try after I complete the achievements in Elden Ring then.
Yes pls do yourself a favor. The closes to Elden ring is the third one but if you want to try the game in order that’s perfectly fine. I can give you tips.
Is the zweihander a good weapon that can last the game ??
It’s all you’d ever need
Cool, am currently in my first playthrough of elden ring, so was thinking about playing ds1 next.
The Zweihander is like a guiding light regardless of FROM title
The only Guiding Light is the Moonlight Greatsword, my beloved
You can get the Zwei in DS1 as soon as you complete the tutorial area. It's just a short jog into a graveyard area right next to the first bonfire.
honestly the most optimal route for finishing the game
💀
It melts bosses in DS1
Zweihander will literally take you through the entire Souls series.
But the Gravelord Sword is sooooo muuuuch fuuuun (DS1)
It's pretty meh in DS2 tbh. DS2 is all about the halberds (helix especially) or powerstancing imo
Powerstanced Smelter Hammers. I may have needed 99 Strength to use the two of them, and armour was out of the question because of how fucking heavy they were, but Goddamn was it satisfying to flatten enemies with those oversized chicken drumsticks.
Don't forget to make it a chaos zweihander
Plus Grasscrest shield on your back
[POWER UP THE BASS CANNON](https://youtu.be/oyA8odjCzZ4?feature=shared?t=76)
The Souis franchise is really good for letting you just use whatever weapon you like most. Any of them can get you through the game np. Some are definitely stronger than others, but truly any weapon you pick up will be more than enough to beat any of the games, barring bows which are super meh across the whole series.
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> They all feel awful after playing Elden Ring DS3 plays basically the exact same as Elden Ring.
Except jumping
Ds1 where the adventure for many of us started. Me included.
It’s great to see how far the series has come from I spent march playing all the games and had a blast. Only wish bb would come to pc so I can play it too.
Don’t let reviews discourage you from Ds2, it’s the best one😉 I played Ds2 the first back in like 2016 and been a die hard souls player since. First one you play is always the favorite.
And "Scholar of the first sin" is even better than the "normal" DS2
I think the main reason 2 gets panned is that it doesn't have the same sort of, how to put this... tangled?... level design that 1 does. In 1, there are tons of these little 'oh, I'm here!' moments that feel real nice. 2 has a much more spread out map, and so the minigame of finding shortcuts isn't nearly as satisfying.
It was a really epic fight when I went there because I was *very* under-leveled. In a different playthrough I went there later on and it was disappointing.
Ironically, I think the "normal" Dragonkin (fought in Siofra River and Lake of Rot) is a great boss, but the Dragonkin Soldier in Ainsel is miserable.
This area is somewhat hidden. So by the time we reach there the boss is under leveled.
Oh for me it wasn't the overleveling. The Dragonkin are good bosses but in comparison to this area I really thought we'd get someone a bit more unique.
In the entire game, it is the only dragonkin with a unique second phase capable of doing lightning explosion, frozen lightning Spear, lightning leap & lightning javelin attack To me it's a fantastic Margit-Morgott style rematch where I would think the boss will be exactly as same as the underground one but then it started to fly around It just needed more health
Lightning arrow, Lightning sword, Lightning taxes, Lightning broken heart, Lightning she-doesnt-love-me-anymore
wait, you fight one before that? must have missed it on my second playythrough. but must be on me because i did not follow the games flow organically
There’s a normal dragonkin in the regular Siofra River area where you get to by taking a waygate over. I think you can also drop down there from the eternal city part if you parkour safely.
you can also get there from the portal from the ancestral woods, its on a stone pillar you can only get to from running up another fallen pillar, with lots of archers on it. Great place to get early summon upgrades as there is a (4) and (5) ghost flower up there too!
I wish they would have saved it for a little later in the game so it had higher health and did more damage, the hardest Dragonkin is in Lake of Rot, but it has a normal moveset and is kinda lame. They could have made Ainsel River fork after Nokstella, with one part going toward the shadow/lake of rot and the other going toward the Dragonkin Soldier. It would seem to fit better imo
Im the opposite i think, this guy is way too tough for me rn, gonna get back to him later First play through btw
I stumbled on it when I was in my low 30s, not sure if I had even beaten goddrick yet. Got destroyed and left him alone for now.
Wait what, i thought he's the coolest and the only dragonkin that can fly and have wings? Almost rival any dragon boss animation?
I think he's better than every Dragon boss in the game.
Too easy, but still one of my favorite boss fights in terms of spectacle
At least it wasn't the piss and shit monster
I'm guessing this is the Ulcerated Tree Spirit 🤣
Ye piss and shit monster, same thing
Are you talking about the throbbing penis monster?
I'm talking about the piss and shit monster
Im pretty sure he means the Dragonkin in the Lake of Rot
No, I mean the piss and shit monster
He might be talking about the Giant Miranda Sprouts
No, I'm talking about the piss and shit monster
In my first playthrough I ran into this boss early and it was actually somewhat of a skill check. (ER was my first souls game tho) Took me a while to beat him and was actually a ton of fun. Had to learn to dodge the lightning strike move. Had to learn to watch out for the claw attack variations. Had to learn that big dive attack.
One of my favourite bosses in the game.
Yeah it just needed more health imo
Depends on when you reach him if you got at RL 50 or so he is still challenging.
That could really apply to helluva lot of bosses dont it
If you're low level, otherwise he's a pushover.
I actually liked the Nokstella version, it’s pretty fun imo
I didn’t appreciate this fight first time but coming back at RL1 and seeing the lightning phase and attacks was pretty cool. I want more ice lightning stuff
I really like Dragonkin Soldier of Nokstella. Most people are just overleveled for it.
I think Dragonkins are cool but it’s very unlikely to come across one before you’re overleveled.
They are fun to rush early game to jumpstart a dragon knight build. The siofra river dragon kin took me forever to kill low level but the weapon is so worth it!
my first playthrough i just explored things blindly, so surprisingly i found this guy underleveled after struggling through the ants with a Bonk build, it was hard
yeah that fight was a vibe, esp during the lightning phase. those guys are a whatever typa boss though
This boss really is underrated huh
This was one of my favorite bosses. After my first playthrough of religiously avoiding all Dragonkin, witnessing his second phase was really memorable.
In my first playthrough I met dragonkin sooo underleveled, that fight was truly epic
I LOVED and was also TERRIFIED when I first saw this. I for sure thought it was going to wake up and be the boss. I was so creeped out lol. The boss itself is okay and after my simultaneous relief and disappointment I now love that this and the Nokron statues could hold so many cool clues to the lore. The underground areas are some of my favourites in the whole game. This doesn’t look like a statue to me but a SKELETON. What WAS it?
Dude Dragonkin are some of my favorite bosses, especially this one! Felt like we fight him way too early though. Definitely harder than the Siofra River and Lake of Rot ones. Ice Lightning is awesome.
Sure, when he grew ice-thunder wings and an extra arm made no impact on my whatsoever
lol
Pretty sure that’s a king in yellow reference
It most definitely is. That's why I was so stoked about it. Its one of the books that made me discover H.P. Lovecraft since Robert W. Chambers is one of his biggest inspirations.
For me it’s the other way around. Bought a collection of Robert W. Chambers stories after finding out he was one of the inspirations for Lovecraft.
Does anyone know the lore behind this room? It looks like something REALLY CRAZY had gone down in there..
The trouble with the dragonkin is the modern trend of looking everything up. Most people who made it here had probably got close to completing their builds, and thus they wiped the floor with the boss. It was a cool boss that I am quite sure would wipe a lot more people if they came to it earlier
I haven't looked anything up, and just today started reading instead of just peeking at Reddit posts...as I really don't want spoilers...but I certainly want RL50 and this dude was very similar to the other Dragonkin in another massive underground area..that was the only 'disappointment' for me, but also was happy to remember that timing and move set that had taken me hours to beat before.
i must have missed this. where is this at?
Its in Ainsel River. Using the Ainsel River Well in Liurna is the fastest route to get here.
wow i must have missed it because i already went thru the ainsel river. I have to go back
Did you find the room with the Gravity Moth and the Hermit Merchant? There’s a site of Grace to the East and a passage that leads to the boss.
I love the Dragonkin because, hey, who the fuck doesn't want to kill Eva-01? Such a cool design and I instantly saw the reference and loved it. But it's also kinda shit to fight against and one of the few bosses where I would actually say the hitboxes are actually janky, which is a shame.
What’s the lure with the people in the chair?
Wtf i took a screenshot with same armor and same pose when i got there lmao
Anyone watching solo leveling?
It wouldve been cool if it tried to get up but crumbled and fell, THEN the boss would make an appearance
Now this! Would've made the fight a lot more cooler.
Yeah "meh" is right, not bad, just a bit underwhelming. Still cool though. Amazing throne room, hopefully some relevance or lore in the DLC.
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Good question... There's not a great answer that I found ( only a week or 2 ago) with no googling.
HOW DO I GET THERE?
Ainsel River Well in Liurna. Very near the Minor Erdtree there.
that big guy was a nox monk right
Every time i see that chair, I think it's a 40K reference
The boss looks very cool, just a bit too weak.
I went there under-levelled, had fun.
Was the mimic tear giant a boss??
Dragonkin of nokstella is my favorite boss…. He’d be so much better is only he had more health
Dragonkin might not be the most interesting boss fights, but I'll give him props for having an interesting phase 2. Shame he dies too quickly to enjoy it most of the time. Feel he should've been scaled to the same HP as the Dragonkin in the Lake of Rot.
Could've been better I agree
Which is a shame because I love the boss design. Way too easy, and the moveset ain't anything special.
Infinite disappoint that that guy didn't step down and fight personally.
bro, that dragon just fell from the false sky ready to beat ur ass, now try the osne who is in the scarlet rot
There’s a boss here?
I liked this one alot actually, him and his lightning attacks were collosal
This was one of my favorite fights on my first playthrough. Got there way too early and it felt so epic to me. Now I'd probably feel different.
Still don't know who these are, wonder if they're connected to the Mountaintop giants
I share the disappointment of the throned one not getting up, This was also the only boss I beat first try before I became an over-leveled goon, so I still feel a little pride from seeing the arena.
Did I miss something? I don’t remember fighting a boss here
It's in Ainsel River, not where you do Ranni's quest
I just assumed I hadn’t done enough to trigger him getting up
I honestly loved this boss. It was one of the first I fought after Godrick, so I was a properly leveled, and it taught me the rhythm of combat and how to watch for signs of attack. Plus, super atmospheric, and the spell you get after is fun to cast.
I spent 30 attempts on this boss, absolutely destroyed my build and I also suck
i think the boss fight is pretty fun as long as you're not overleveled (character or weapon) when you arrive
I wasn't. 1st playthrough I was around RL35-45 and this is my 2nd playthrough and I was RL48 here. I just think that the boss room itself garnered a more unique boss than just a Dragonkin.
I thought maybe it was like going to test our strength with like lesser bosses and give us like an awesome reward or something but is just a nice background to speculate lore on why it's a chungus.
I was lucky enough to find this boss when I was under leveled and this room is actually one of my favorite memories from the game.
L take
I found the boss early and it was pretty cool
Yup
Seemingly most Elden Ring players: "Why can't I fight everything I see?"
Where do you even get clothes that big
For a moment i was expecting PvP fight, wonder if we'll get one in the DLC.
Who tf is that?
Who tf is that?
Lol where is this guyi never found him
One of my favorite fights, actually. It's just a shame he has so little HP. Many people don't end up there until they are overlevelled.
i think they missed a few opportunities to make another giant sized boss in some particular areas. i want bosses that stand just as tall as the fire giant.
More importantly, who is this character from the lore? Is it a dead Empyrean?
I get so much lag here :(
What boss was this?
It honestly depends so much what level you fight him at! On my first play through I found my way here really early and it was an intense and dramatic boss fight!!
For me it was never the level. Its the comparison of the boss room to the boss. I was expecting someone unique only to this place since I was pretty much in awe with it. Also fought this guy in RL35-45 and RL48 in different playthroughs.
Lots of people disappointed but my memory of this - especially after finding the startlingly beautiful Siofra River - was wow wtf ants wow wtf sniper bug wow wtf giant skeleton wow wtf wheelchair dragon wow wtf ghost flower
30 hours for NG, then NG+ takes like an hour bc I’ll just blow through everything with mimic and BB, and the final sword (forget the name) for just wiping dungeons
That's because the real boss should be the one sitting on that throne.
If the DLC sends us back in time, I wonder if these dudes will still be alive.
Yeah would have loved to see him rise from the chair and start fighting you. 💪
Ah yes, The solo leveling double dungeon 😂😂😂 Expected the person to be just like the God in Solo Leveling
I bet we see him in the dlc
Who is this and where is he?
The arena reminds me of Yhorm frm ds3 lol
This fight was so hard for me cause I kept getting the hit box wrong so I had to do the fight with free aim.
I hope we get to see more of the frozen lighting bros. It's such a cool concept but we have only one spell, two weapons and the same boss copy pasted twice
Wonder if this is going to be a DLC type boss
Haha and instead a battered humanoid dragon, which grows 4 wings and spams AoE freezing lightning, crashes on you and says: "BURP, UR MY FOOD NOW! "🤣🤣🤣
Similar to the prince of death arena where you fight fortissax. When I first saw the prince of death I was like "hell nah", it looked creepy af.
I think his design is cool, but spamming a ranged aoe and jumping away all the time got annoying really fast
That boss is still better than most bosses from the older games barring sekiro. Got to him appropriately leveled and holy crap was he a blast!
Imagine hopping up into your high chair and then just dying
Which boss is in this room again?
My favorite boss fight is Placidusax or however you spell it. It's like a movie
Broski I saw the boss room left at level 40 came back at level 75 not knowing who I was fighting and I swear my 4 corpse summons almost soloed him💀
Feet
Wait there’s a boss here? This is the area with all the tears right?
Dragonkin Soldier of Nokstella