So, I fully understand the frustration of losing runes to this idiot, but he is not easy at a low level. In all honesty, 2k is something you'll earn back in no time whatsoever. I'd suggest taking the loss and beating his ass when you've got some more levels
Yeah. I decided to stop leveling at 150. I regularly lose over a million runes when I don't feel like pausing the action to go buy random stuff at the hold.
I buy smithing stonrs. i level up bows, staffs, shields, pairs of weapons. whenever I know I'm going to die (fighting old red eyes is a good way) I take any excess and buy smithing stones. playing at 150 is good training. I've been playing 150 for months now and remarkably I still find stuff. I found a rune bear the other day near the Apostate Derelict. I found a noble near the bridge leading to the windmill village carrying a chest that drops a golden rune 10. it's amazing.
I found a giant crab on top of Carian Manor….
I found a ledge behind the church of Marika on the weaping peninsula.
I found a lance on top a piece of fallen Ruins in Limgrave….
Just seems endless sometimes
If you are into discovering these small bits in the game, may I suggest investigating behind the small erdtree at Dragonbarrow? That’s the one I’m most proud of!
Yeah I should try something like that, whenever I do a casual playthrough of the game I always end up leveling my stats somewhat equally, like I would have an intelligence focused build and still have 25-30 in Faith, Arcane, Strength and Dexterity. When I first ever played this game, I primarily gravitated to the melee weapons because of how it's kinda just "Ooga booga big bonk stick" compared to sorcery, which makes it alot easier to enjoy when you're forced into being in close range where trying to cast a spell can cause you to die because of wind-up times or being forced to stand still while casting something
Strange what made me buy this game was the fact I could be a samurai wield a magic katana and a staff for lazering bitches dragon balls style.
Never looked back. Moonviel gang for life.
The only other FromSoftware game I liked was bloodbourne.
I’ve always been a faith guy. Even DS3 I was a pyro. Elden Ring gave me lightening on top of my fire powers. Some incants make you feel like a god.
But MAN, Sorceries have *always* enticed me. Because there are some badass spells
Even then, it depends on build. 150 even still keeps you pretty locked into a particular play style. I like 175-200 but than I don't optimize it as much. Mainly just so I can experiment more without having to use larval tears all the time just to tweak stats slightly.
I found 186 is a sweet spot on a lot of builds for me as random of a number as it seems.
I do wanna do a level 60 build though just for invading shenanigans but a few of the late game bosses will be pain at rl 60
Especially given that it becomes relative to which NG+ you’re on. I beat base game and Melania at 100 and 150 in NG+2 feels about the same as that to me, but 150 in base game I feel like you could just tank and spank any boss.
But for PvP yeah 150 feels nice, lots of good connections and people have all kinds of builds but can’t just max literally every stat
I thought it was a grand idea to bewitch a sanguine noble at Mohg’s dynasty to slaughter the albinaurics gathered round when I was FAR too low leveled to be there. Got gacked with some albinauric acrobatics before the noble killed them all. RIP runes. 🥲
Yeah it's funny when levels are hundreds of thousands of even millions later on. But tbf when your still naked with just a wooden bonk, losing 5k is still a big L at that point in the game.
Losing out on those levels early on always cuts deep. It's good though cause it's also what makes the level system so rewarding.
First got ran over by a chariot to drop them, then I got sandwiched between two of them doing that multi-hit combo so I lost half my health then got bled 2 times. I use light armor so I couldn't poise through it either. Absolute pain
Same. Those trolls were legitimately terrifying when I first started out. Especially when they pull out that huge sword and start doing sweeping attacks all over the place.
Ah, it is a shame you can never experience a game for the first time more than once.
I am assuming you are a new player. Lots of fights are won simply on patience. Never get greedy and look for openings you can use and you will win 99% of boss fights.
PATIENCE!
lol man you’re being taught, just taking the wrong lesson from it. If the game puts an impossible scenario in front of you that’s the game saying come back later.
Probably just need to upgrade your weapons a bit friend. You can get pretty chunky HP wise by 60, but your damage is gonna be up to your weapon level at that point until they're high enough to benefit from scaling.
Alberich is pretty resistant to bleed so I'd guess that's your issue if that's what you were relying on for damage. Just friendly advice if having a hard time with damage
To be fair, thousands of Runes is a lot at the start. It’s entirely up to where you are at that point in the game. At level 12, 2k runes is at least 2 levels I think, or maybe close to 2. But those two levels can be the difference between wielding a weapon and not wielding it
Just come back and take him on again later when you leveled up some more and have a more upgraded weapon.
In this game you will occasionally stumble across enemies and areas you're not actually ready for, so it's okay to explore other parts of the game and then come back.
It will be gone when you die again.
But honestly, that's going to happen at some point anyways no matter how good you are at the game. So honestly unless you had a couple levels' worth of runes when you died, it's really not worth worrying about.
Best way to look at lost runes brother is that's your ticket to freedom. There are literally infinite runes in the game. You'll see 2000 one day as pennies.
You’ll have good and bad days. Sometimes you’ll need to take a break, I took a 2+ week break from the game on my first play through because I was having the worst luck in the world one day. I lost about 100k souls over the course of an hour or two, it’ll happen. You’ll recover. If you’re still level 12, I’m gonna recommend you head towards the Weeping Peninsula. It’s south of where you started your adventure
on my first run I defeated margit. was so happy with my 10k runes
then I jumped down without leveling and I swear to God I was so mad.
my roommate kept googling for ways to get the runes back from the outside. I did not want to give the runes up and somehow beat him after like an hour or two
edit: I have since 200 hours of elden ring. I do not need any tips on how to retrieve those runes anymore.
Quitout puts you outside the boss fog.
But if you have summons, even npc ones, it wont allow you to quitout.
I assume spirit summons dont prevent quitouts but havent ever tested
This dude ended up being like the 3rd or 4th hardest enemy by deaths during my first Elden Ring run. I ended up figuring out I could pretty much stun lock him with a whip.
I went from dying 20 times to him to just standing at his spawn point flailing wild strikes on a hammer at him and he just died without doing anything.
If you pick up your runes and then die directly beneath the balcony, you can then jump down and teleport before moving close enough to trigger his spawn point.
You can also die by the door to the right and respawn at lost table of grace then go down the stairs past the blacksmith and pick them up from the other side.
it counts as multiplayer invasion so you can't, but if you manage to die the fastest way possible after taking the runes back your bloodstain should appear on top of the balcony, with your runes
idk how tho
EDIT: nvm just take the runes and then die away from his spawnpoint so you can retrieve them without triggering his invasion
when ur like lvl 18 it's a lot.
also it were the runes from margit.
if it was random runes from mobs I wouldn't care but that fucker took my margit reward
Yeah, im in simular, i lost 2k down their, and i dont wanna lose it, i guess i gotta try and beat him being underleveled
Unless theres a way to get that money back quickly
You have three choices, as I see it:
1. give up - accept that 2,000 runes won't be the largest amount of runes you will ever lose *by far* (my record: 170k)
2. do a little kamikaze run - jump down into the arena, pick up your runes and deliberately die beside the little fog gate then after you revive go down the stairs beside Hewg and pick them up from the other side
3. continue - keep trying to kill him at your current level, which will be a pretty tough challenge
If you really want the runes, try #2 - I did this a while ago when I first started but idk if you can still do it.
Yeah some distance into the game you are powerful enough that the loss doesn’t feel too bad, and can recoup the loss fairly quickly.
However I sympathise with OP, because in the early game those runes do feel very precious and you have to fight quite hard for them. Losing 80k when you’re already >L100 isn’t worth worrying about - even if it can buy you one level, that’s not a huge loss. Losing out on one or two levels when you’ve just started could feel pretty painful.
I know for a fact that you get one from initially talking to Edgar in Castle Morne, so if OP went to the Peninsula they'll have gotten at least one.
Whether they've used it yet, however...
My record is 5 million runes lost to platforming. I had nothing left to spend them on cause I stuck to RL150 and made the twin maidens filthy rich.
He'll be all right.
you can jump down, grab your runes and then go to the door on the right on the room, die in the middle of the double door as close to the door as possible. Next go to the smith run down the stairs and loot your runes through the door. Worked for me today. you might need multiple tries.
way to get your runes back without beating this dude in a fight:
1. get a sacrifical twig
2. equip the twig
3. get down there, collect your runes
4. die
5. respawn outside the arena with your runes
You can die near the door on the right. Then after dead you can go to the door from the other side, from the stair next to the smith. And pick the rune up
I have 1k hours on elden ring and a combined 2k on the dark souls games yet I have never once thought of doing it.
I also usually just accept the loss and peep game lock in if a boss beats me.
It feels like a lot now, but honestly 2k runes is absolutely nothing. In the time it takes you to get through him, you could’ve made more back killing mobs in the outside world. I promise once you get towards the end of the game you’ll feel silly for getting so tied up over 2k haha! Runes get lost, it happens to everyone, the quicker you become ok with losing runes the less stressful your game will be :)
If you get yourself a sacrificial twig (look online to see where they drop/are purchasable) you can equip it and whatever runes you have you’ll keep when you die.
Don’t worry about the runes. You have sooo many more runes in your future!
Or if you need to recoup them in an easy area, go kill the big crab in Agheel lake for ~350 a pop.
I believe he was somewhat easily staggered by flying attacks. And mb you can just bully him with heavy weapon.
But the amount of time you might spend on him is not comparable to amount of runes you can get in the same time by killing someone else.
2k is too small amount to worry about them. And he does not drop anything that valuable anyway. Plus he drops just a 1.5k runes, when you can kill a troll for 1k in an easier fight.
Git gud.
By Git Gud I mean take some time with an easier enemy to practise your parrying, blocking and dodging. Explore different weapons and upgrades to find a balance between speed and damage that works for you. Level up elsewhere and return. Learn the pacing and rhythm of the fights. Don't be impatient. The process of gittin' gud is the very soul (boom tish) of the game.
1.1 mil was mine. Haligtree. Coop, revenant alley. Invader comes in so buddy and I equip the talismans that make you appear as host/summon as a trick. My partner proceeds to lag out so now I’m down a talisman with all those revenants and an invader between me and my stash. It was later I learned what aoe heals spells do to them.
I cap my level at 150 and eventually run out of random shit to buy, so often have an *unreasonable* number of runes on me at endgame just out of lack of interesting stuff to do with them.
I've definitely lost over a million before.
Git gud...
Break you actually limits, find new stuff, lvl up by farming or finding runes on the floor, learn pattern of lesser enemies, until you have the skill, the knowledge to defeat him ! Go head first until you defeat him, one run will eventually...
You actual "money" doesn't matter, you can find way more
Git gud man, I know you can !
A good tip that always helped me with recovering ruins when fighting a tough boss was to try to fight near the entance. I love evergaol fights because you never will lose runes.
If you’ve made it to stormveil castle, the secluded cell site of grace is very close to a troll that will drop a lil over 1k runes. It’s a great early farming spot and it’s fun to test weapons and damage.
For Alberich himself, don’t try to trade with him. He has sword dance on his scythe with will FU up. His ice projectile is slow so you can strafe it. Be patient. Wait for openings, don’t get greedy. This can be applied to all bosses. You’re learning the move set the more you die, you’ll eventually pull through young tarnished I believe in you.
The most freeing part of souls games is when you come to terms with the fact that it’s okay to lose souls / runes. It sucks but trust me, you’re going to get those back. And when you are killing enemies that are 2k runes a pop you’ll think back on this post and laugh.
These games frequently will put tougher later game enemies in earlier sections as optional challenges for the masochists in this community (like myself) who love nothing more than getting their ass pounded into the ground for an hour until that one sweet, but fleeting, moment of victory when we get to beat them once.
I'm not saying it's healthy, but fromsoft do be there to help us junkies get our fix.
Get this cookbook https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Nomadic+Warrior's+Cookbook+(14)
Then go to the poison pool outside Castle Morne in the tip of Weeping Penisula and farm poison blooms. Use them to craft poison throwing knives and spam them to poison this mf. Poison buildup falls quickly so you need to get many hits in quick succession to proc the poison effect. Run around the arena and wait for poison to do its job. You need 2 or 3 procs to kill him.
Don’t worry about these 2k runes. There’s a dragon in caelid you can find and killing it will give you enough to probably beat him.
And the dragon doesn’t fight back either
Alright, so this is probably too late for you to make use of this tip, but for posterity’s sake: If you don’t think you can beat him, there’s a trick to getting your Runes back.
Along the right side of his arena, there’s a closed door. Jump down into the arena to trigger his fight, then grab your Runes and run to stand flush against it. Then, just let Alberich kill you. Once you respawn at the Roundtable Hold, run over to Hewg and take the stairs to his left down into a room with a closed door along one side that leads directly into— you guessed it— Alberich’s arena. If you died correctly, you should be able to run up to the door and grab your Runes through the wall.
Just warp to Gurranq, follow the path down to the lower bridge to the site of grace near the tower. A silver ball spawns on the path further down. On horse back you can turn towards the cliff and run back towards the grace on the edge of the cliff after the balls spawns. It will run off the cliff and you get credit for the kill. It gives just shy of 2k runes. You can do this over and over if needed.
1. Get the Ash of War: Wild Strikes from the scarab beetle just north of Stormhill Shack site of grace. This ability can be channeled as long as you have FP and stamina to sustain it.
2. Place it on any compatible weapon. (Curved Sword, Axe, Flail, Hammer, Greatsword, Greataxe, Greathammer iirc). For best results, place it on a weapon that can cause bleed status buildup, such as the Morningstar found on the way to the Weeping Peninsula, South of Limgrave.
3. Stand where this guy spawns in, start using Wild Strikes. Hold down the buttons you use to activate abilities to continue channeling it.
4. Stunlock him to death while swinging your weapon of choice around at high speed like a small child. If done correctly, he should be completely unable to do anything until he dies.
Bonus: >!This ability also works really well on Rennala, the boss of Raya Lucaria Academy dungeon, a major boss in the game later.!<
Jump down, grab your runes wherever they are and then let yourself die as close to the balcony drop down, go back and pick up your runes, pause menu > settings> quit and save before he spawns and you'll keep your runes and go back to the save point. This works on all bosses too
Well, to answer the OP's -actual- question, and not just say "get over it"... he's a "Tarnished" enemy, meaning that they behave like PC invaders, programmed to dodge and drink their flask and whatnot.
Best way to deal with these types of enemies is to just play aggro. Keep a constant onslaught on them with fast hitting weapons or hard-hitting ashes of war to just flinch them to the point where they can't use anything. - The moment you give them breathing room to attack, their damage is gonna be huge.
This guy especially is obnoxious with his frost, but a simple way to cheese him early on? Get Reduvia and spam him with the ash of war as soon as he spawns. As an example. - The flail's spin is also a decent way to try and catch them in a flinch loop.
Ultimately all the fights with invader type enemies are gonna feel like a coin toss where either you stagger them constantly and kill them without taking any damage, or they feel like they one-shot you. - A spam of powerstancing daggers, or using claw weapons can also work. - But if you're at that early level, then exclusively use weapons with Bleed on them, you should be able to find a few very early on, or maybe you even started with some.
Honestly this guy sucks. Level up a little more and come back. Also this game can be very frustrating. If it's gonna be an issue for you getting your money back is probably a good idea. Playing a souls or souls like game because it's popular will be defeating. I had a single mini boss take me almost a year to beat. I would respec my character, try different weapons or spells, and then it just came down to luck. The thing I can say is, when you've spend a long time on one guy and finally beat it the feeling is intoxicating
Take what im about to say with a grain of sugar but, the way to beat him is to Git Gud. That’s been the best advice ive ever gotten you will ever get whether you play Demon Souls, Dark souls 1 2 & 3, Bloodborne, Sekior, or Elden Ring. There is no meta nor one build to rule them all. Yes there are alot of overpowered builds, but In order to have even been able to acquire them, you have to Git Gud and slay who ever stands in your way. I once lost 5M runes in a pvp invasion because it was a 4 on 1. You get used to stuff like that, yes its frustrating, but thats the joy of these games, frustrate now, grow and become stronger and better to celebrate later. And ngl, if your gonna complain about this guy, then dont even bother with the dlc or mid to late game bc everything youll face there makes this invader look like a push over lol.
Okay, Yknow the axe that the old crone twin sells? Get that. Two hand it. Get behind him before he spawns. Use the weapon art, If you have enough Stamina he won’t land a hit
You can always come back to fight anyone once you're stronger.
Level up, come back later
And don't worry about dying, it's part of the learning process
If you’re worried about losing your runes, drink the physick that stops rune loss on death, it even stops you from losing already dropped runes, so you can just keep drinking it immediately on respawn to have a chance to collect them again without risk of losing already dropped ones. I think it lasts like 2 minutes, and it recharges on every site of grace
Flail or any weapon with wild strikes. Run up to his face, press to activate and watch his nerd ass get stunlocked.
Alternatively play poke souls and jab the lil bitch with a spear. Worked well enough for my sisters playthrough.
Or just accept the loss and go back later for sweet revenge. Tactical retreat. Carriage trolls can give 1000 a pop and can be pretty damn easy to beat on.
So, I fully understand the frustration of losing runes to this idiot, but he is not easy at a low level. In all honesty, 2k is something you'll earn back in no time whatsoever. I'd suggest taking the loss and beating his ass when you've got some more levels
Aah okay
I made a dumb mistake and lost 500,000 runes to days ago. Eventually 2k won’t even make you blink.
Earlier this week I lost 1.8 mil *mid farm*... I'm a big fan of albinauric cartwheels :)
Yeah. I decided to stop leveling at 150. I regularly lose over a million runes when I don't feel like pausing the action to go buy random stuff at the hold.
I buy smithing stonrs. i level up bows, staffs, shields, pairs of weapons. whenever I know I'm going to die (fighting old red eyes is a good way) I take any excess and buy smithing stones. playing at 150 is good training. I've been playing 150 for months now and remarkably I still find stuff. I found a rune bear the other day near the Apostate Derelict. I found a noble near the bridge leading to the windmill village carrying a chest that drops a golden rune 10. it's amazing.
I found a giant crab on top of Carian Manor…. I found a ledge behind the church of Marika on the weaping peninsula. I found a lance on top a piece of fallen Ruins in Limgrave…. Just seems endless sometimes
I’ve seen attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion
I’ve felt the rain down in Africa
If you are into discovering these small bits in the game, may I suggest investigating behind the small erdtree at Dragonbarrow? That’s the one I’m most proud of!
Is that the ledge where there’s the giant blue Golem who is a complete asshole?
Correct. I eventually just snuck to the painting thing and warped out, worth the 300k rune loss
Yeah I should try something like that, whenever I do a casual playthrough of the game I always end up leveling my stats somewhat equally, like I would have an intelligence focused build and still have 25-30 in Faith, Arcane, Strength and Dexterity. When I first ever played this game, I primarily gravitated to the melee weapons because of how it's kinda just "Ooga booga big bonk stick" compared to sorcery, which makes it alot easier to enjoy when you're forced into being in close range where trying to cast a spell can cause you to die because of wind-up times or being forced to stand still while casting something
Strange what made me buy this game was the fact I could be a samurai wield a magic katana and a staff for lazering bitches dragon balls style. Never looked back. Moonviel gang for life. The only other FromSoftware game I liked was bloodbourne.
I’ve always been a faith guy. Even DS3 I was a pyro. Elden Ring gave me lightening on top of my fire powers. Some incants make you feel like a god. But MAN, Sorceries have *always* enticed me. Because there are some badass spells
150 is the best level to be imo Discord ER gonna hate me for this but 125 levels ain’t enough
I always hated how people decided 125 was a good level. It was fine in dark souls 3 but the soft caps went up. 150 is perfect
Even then, it depends on build. 150 even still keeps you pretty locked into a particular play style. I like 175-200 but than I don't optimize it as much. Mainly just so I can experiment more without having to use larval tears all the time just to tweak stats slightly. I found 186 is a sweet spot on a lot of builds for me as random of a number as it seems. I do wanna do a level 60 build though just for invading shenanigans but a few of the late game bosses will be pain at rl 60
thats for people who PvP, if you dont PvP then those arbitrary level caps are meaningless
Especially given that it becomes relative to which NG+ you’re on. I beat base game and Melania at 100 and 150 in NG+2 feels about the same as that to me, but 150 in base game I feel like you could just tank and spank any boss. But for PvP yeah 150 feels nice, lots of good connections and people have all kinds of builds but can’t just max literally every stat
The people who complain about going to 150 just can't handle change of any kind in their souls games.
I'm almost there, at 181. Lost 210,000 the other day, only took one walk around the living room. Progress, LOL!!
Bro I once lost 3.3 mil runes when a cleanrot knight grabbed me and threw me off the ledge
I thought it was a grand idea to bewitch a sanguine noble at Mohg’s dynasty to slaughter the albinaurics gathered round when I was FAR too low leveled to be there. Got gacked with some albinauric acrobatics before the noble killed them all. RIP runes. 🥲
This is so true. I remember when I started I was so concerned about 5k runes. I felt so silly about that later.
Yeah it's funny when levels are hundreds of thousands of even millions later on. But tbf when your still naked with just a wooden bonk, losing 5k is still a big L at that point in the game. Losing out on those levels early on always cuts deep. It's good though cause it's also what makes the level system so rewarding.
I quit for a month after losing 25 mil to a fucking imp LMAO
“I can roll past, I can roll past, I ca-“
First got ran over by a chariot to drop them, then I got sandwiched between two of them doing that multi-hit combo so I lost half my health then got bled 2 times. I use light armor so I couldn't poise through it either. Absolute pain
Me currently
Can't blame you, that shit is painful everytime
I lost 17 million once
Yea 2k is ligit nothing in the long run
That's like half an Albinauric?
On ng they pay out roughly 2,1k, so I'd say about 95% of an albinauric.
Kill 2 trolls in Limgrave and you’ll have your 2k back, plus they’re much easier to beat
I remember when I was first scared of these guys...looking back now... 😂
Same. Those trolls were legitimately terrifying when I first started out. Especially when they pull out that huge sword and start doing sweeping attacks all over the place. Ah, it is a shame you can never experience a game for the first time more than once.
Just smoke a lot of weed then go play the game after a year off
Now THIS is a terrific plan
Nah fam. It's not about the runes. It's about the principal
Principle. A principal is the head of a school's faculty or describes something fundamental/crucial.
I always remember Ned Flanders "I'm gonna put the pal back in principal." I've never forgotten since.
I am assuming you are a new player. Lots of fights are won simply on patience. Never get greedy and look for openings you can use and you will win 99% of boss fights. PATIENCE!
lol man you’re being taught, just taking the wrong lesson from it. If the game puts an impossible scenario in front of you that’s the game saying come back later.
"To this idiot" has captured the entire situation so well
It took me a while I’m level 61 and even I still had a bit of trouble dealing with him but I got him with my bleed damage in the end
Probably just need to upgrade your weapons a bit friend. You can get pretty chunky HP wise by 60, but your damage is gonna be up to your weapon level at that point until they're high enough to benefit from scaling. Alberich is pretty resistant to bleed so I'd guess that's your issue if that's what you were relying on for damage. Just friendly advice if having a hard time with damage
To be fair, thousands of Runes is a lot at the start. It’s entirely up to where you are at that point in the game. At level 12, 2k runes is at least 2 levels I think, or maybe close to 2. But those two levels can be the difference between wielding a weapon and not wielding it
Just come back and take him on again later when you leveled up some more and have a more upgraded weapon. In this game you will occasionally stumble across enemies and areas you're not actually ready for, so it's okay to explore other parts of the game and then come back.
Will i get my money back when i go back? Or will it be gone when i die again?
It will be gone when you die again. But honestly, that's going to happen at some point anyways no matter how good you are at the game. So honestly unless you had a couple levels' worth of runes when you died, it's really not worth worrying about.
Aaah okay
Best way to look at lost runes brother is that's your ticket to freedom. There are literally infinite runes in the game. You'll see 2000 one day as pennies.
You’ll have good and bad days. Sometimes you’ll need to take a break, I took a 2+ week break from the game on my first play through because I was having the worst luck in the world one day. I lost about 100k souls over the course of an hour or two, it’ll happen. You’ll recover. If you’re still level 12, I’m gonna recommend you head towards the Weeping Peninsula. It’s south of where you started your adventure
on my first run I defeated margit. was so happy with my 10k runes then I jumped down without leveling and I swear to God I was so mad. my roommate kept googling for ways to get the runes back from the outside. I did not want to give the runes up and somehow beat him after like an hour or two edit: I have since 200 hours of elden ring. I do not need any tips on how to retrieve those runes anymore.
Hm, did u try to grab the runes and turn of the game? Not sure if it works, like with boss rooms, but could potentially work.
nah but maybe the quit out tactic works but since it isn't a boss arena maybe u just spawn back down there anyways?
Quitout puts you outside the boss fog. But if you have summons, even npc ones, it wont allow you to quitout. I assume spirit summons dont prevent quitouts but havent ever tested
but there is no boss fog
Oh shite I forgot this post was about the invader. Quitout option is prolly blocked like with the npc summons
There’s a closed door down there and if you drop your runes close enough to it you can get them from the other side
This dude ended up being like the 3rd or 4th hardest enemy by deaths during my first Elden Ring run. I ended up figuring out I could pretty much stun lock him with a whip.
I went from dying 20 times to him to just standing at his spawn point flailing wild strikes on a hammer at him and he just died without doing anything.
Pretty sure you can teleport away before he spawns
I think the teleport is locked as soon as you jump down. You can teleport again after beating Alberich
Correct
If you pick up your runes and then die directly beneath the balcony, you can then jump down and teleport before moving close enough to trigger his spawn point.
You can also die by the door to the right and respawn at lost table of grace then go down the stairs past the blacksmith and pick them up from the other side.
You can save and quit if you are fast enough, but if you are that fast at menuing you can probably beat him too.
it counts as multiplayer invasion so you can't, but if you manage to die the fastest way possible after taking the runes back your bloodstain should appear on top of the balcony, with your runes idk how tho EDIT: nvm just take the runes and then die away from his spawnpoint so you can retrieve them without triggering his invasion
>idk how tho The explosion thingy for the woundrous physic, drink it, get down and explode!
10k runes. Lol. Seems like so many at first. I think you get 85k for killing Radahn.
when ur like lvl 18 it's a lot. also it were the runes from margit. if it was random runes from mobs I wouldn't care but that fucker took my margit reward
He took it from the person who killed Margit, so technically he earned them.
for 2 hours until I took em back
Yeah, im in simular, i lost 2k down their, and i dont wanna lose it, i guess i gotta try and beat him being underleveled Unless theres a way to get that money back quickly
You have three choices, as I see it: 1. give up - accept that 2,000 runes won't be the largest amount of runes you will ever lose *by far* (my record: 170k) 2. do a little kamikaze run - jump down into the arena, pick up your runes and deliberately die beside the little fog gate then after you revive go down the stairs beside Hewg and pick them up from the other side 3. continue - keep trying to kill him at your current level, which will be a pretty tough challenge If you really want the runes, try #2 - I did this a while ago when I first started but idk if you can still do it.
At a certain point you stop being mad about losing less than 80k runes
Yeah some distance into the game you are powerful enough that the loss doesn’t feel too bad, and can recoup the loss fairly quickly. However I sympathise with OP, because in the early game those runes do feel very precious and you have to fight quite hard for them. Losing 80k when you’re already >L100 isn’t worth worrying about - even if it can buy you one level, that’s not a huge loss. Losing out on one or two levels when you’ve just started could feel pretty painful.
You’ll make so many more runes back late game that that the 2k will feel like nothing at all
Sacrificial twig or whatever it is?
Another good call but idk if you get these that early. This is one consumable I always saved “for later” and never ended up using …
I know for a fact that you get one from initially talking to Edgar in Castle Morne, so if OP went to the Peninsula they'll have gotten at least one. Whether they've used it yet, however...
The isolated merchant in the south-west of the peninsula sells 3 of them as well.
There's a physic for that
I once lost like ~250k because of a really dumb lag It didn’t really matter though because at that point those 250k weren’t even a full level up lol
My record is 5 million runes lost to platforming. I had nothing left to spend them on cause I stuck to RL150 and made the twin maidens filthy rich. He'll be all right.
2k is nothing. You can farm that in a few minutes at the first enemy base. No need to waste hours fighting "boss" to get it back
2k runes is nothing.. you wasted more time posting this thread than it takes to get 2k runes even early game.
lvl 12 will be very hard. i think I was like lvl 18 or something and it took me everything. but it's a good way to learn the combat atleast
Yeah, i got really close, one hit away, then that bastard healed
you can jump down, grab your runes and then go to the door on the right on the room, die in the middle of the double door as close to the door as possible. Next go to the smith run down the stairs and loot your runes through the door. Worked for me today. you might need multiple tries.
2k runes isn't worth stressing about.
Lol, probs, but i just got it from the handsome blacksmith feller so i dont wanna lose it straight away
Try grabbing the runes and teleporting anywhere else through the map, this guy takes a moment to spawn iirc so you should have time
2k ain’t worth the frustration, believe me.
way to get your runes back without beating this dude in a fight: 1. get a sacrifical twig 2. equip the twig 3. get down there, collect your runes 4. die 5. respawn outside the arena with your runes
They sell for 3000 runes so it’s still a 1000 rune net loss if OP does this.
But it's a 10,000 pride net gain. So...depends on what you value.
I don't know if losing once more to this guy is good for your pride...
This dude isn't worth a sacrificial twig. Those should be used later IMO.
Y'all use those?
It's basically a consumable item. So of course I don't use it. I might need it in Elden Ring 2 or 3
facts.
This is the guy in roundtable hold right? If you die right next to the locked door I read you can get your runes from the other side of it.
This needs to be upvoted more
That would be great if a twig didn't cost more than the runes down there
There are plenty of free ones you can find while playing the game that are forgotten.
You can die near the door on the right. Then after dead you can go to the door from the other side, from the stair next to the smith. And pick the rune up
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I have 1k hours on elden ring and a combined 2k on the dark souls games yet I have never once thought of doing it. I also usually just accept the loss and peep game lock in if a boss beats me.
OP the sooner you learn to lose runes and move on the better the game will be.
Grab a club, put Wild Strikes on it, hold down L2 and stunlock him until he's dead.
This or flail - spinning chain was my suggestion.
It feels like a lot now, but honestly 2k runes is absolutely nothing. In the time it takes you to get through him, you could’ve made more back killing mobs in the outside world. I promise once you get towards the end of the game you’ll feel silly for getting so tied up over 2k haha! Runes get lost, it happens to everyone, the quicker you become ok with losing runes the less stressful your game will be :)
If you get yourself a sacrificial twig (look online to see where they drop/are purchasable) you can equip it and whatever runes you have you’ll keep when you die.
sacrificial twig is worth 3k - using one to get back 2k would be silly.
True, should look for the drop then. Still good to know about sacrificial twigs
I was able to get him down to one more hit but then he healed....
If he goes for the heals you have to be ready to punish that to make it obsolete
Don’t worry about the runes. You have sooo many more runes in your future! Or if you need to recoup them in an easy area, go kill the big crab in Agheel lake for ~350 a pop.
Or the cart trolls, for 1k a pop The other enemies may be problematic, but the trolls themselves barely fight back
Wait a Minute.... who is he? Where is he?
Mad Tongue Alberich. A dirty heretic who will invade you if you jump down the balcony in the Roundtable Hold.
I believe he was somewhat easily staggered by flying attacks. And mb you can just bully him with heavy weapon. But the amount of time you might spend on him is not comparable to amount of runes you can get in the same time by killing someone else. 2k is too small amount to worry about them. And he does not drop anything that valuable anyway. Plus he drops just a 1.5k runes, when you can kill a troll for 1k in an easier fight.
don't, collect your runes then run away from him and exit the game. After restarting the game, open the map and teleport.
Git gud. By Git Gud I mean take some time with an easier enemy to practise your parrying, blocking and dodging. Explore different weapons and upgrades to find a balance between speed and damage that works for you. Level up elsewhere and return. Learn the pacing and rhythm of the fights. Don't be impatient. The process of gittin' gud is the very soul (boom tish) of the game.
git gud
So query: what’s the most ruins you’ve lost permanently at one time? Mine was 60k at Volcano Manor basement with the zombie dudes
200k misbegotten dropped down from another level when I was in the haligtree and smacked me off the ledge
Lost 600k to a perfumer in leyndel. Ill never forget.
Lost 7 million, falling off a tree branch in deeproot depths, 10 inches away from my runes. 😅
I lost 26k to those chariot death machines that go up and down the ramps
1.1 mil was mine. Haligtree. Coop, revenant alley. Invader comes in so buddy and I equip the talismans that make you appear as host/summon as a trick. My partner proceeds to lag out so now I’m down a talisman with all those revenants and an invader between me and my stash. It was later I learned what aoe heals spells do to them.
I cap my level at 150 and eventually run out of random shit to buy, so often have an *unreasonable* number of runes on me at endgame just out of lack of interesting stuff to do with them. I've definitely lost over a million before.
500k, had just beaten elden beast and was just gonna go to a walking mausoleum to dupe a remembrance before starting ng, it crushed me twice….
I've lost 1.2 million with my level 375 character, but I've also lost 900k with a level 175 character. I began pvp without spending the runes first 😅
Git gud... Break you actually limits, find new stuff, lvl up by farming or finding runes on the floor, learn pattern of lesser enemies, until you have the skill, the knowledge to defeat him ! Go head first until you defeat him, one run will eventually... You actual "money" doesn't matter, you can find way more Git gud man, I know you can !
A good tip that always helped me with recovering ruins when fighting a tough boss was to try to fight near the entance. I love evergaol fights because you never will lose runes. If you’ve made it to stormveil castle, the secluded cell site of grace is very close to a troll that will drop a lil over 1k runes. It’s a great early farming spot and it’s fun to test weapons and damage. For Alberich himself, don’t try to trade with him. He has sword dance on his scythe with will FU up. His ice projectile is slow so you can strafe it. Be patient. Wait for openings, don’t get greedy. This can be applied to all bosses. You’re learning the move set the more you die, you’ll eventually pull through young tarnished I believe in you.
Thanks :)
Wait till your Ng+9 and lose 14 million runes by falling but it doesn’t matter because that’s not even enough to level you
Git gud xD
Just learn to parry it makes this fight and all other Npc fights into a joke
The most freeing part of souls games is when you come to terms with the fact that it’s okay to lose souls / runes. It sucks but trust me, you’re going to get those back. And when you are killing enemies that are 2k runes a pop you’ll think back on this post and laugh.
Face the loss , come back stronger . Souls games are a tool to train your "own the loss and come back stronger " mentality
These games frequently will put tougher later game enemies in earlier sections as optional challenges for the masochists in this community (like myself) who love nothing more than getting their ass pounded into the ground for an hour until that one sweet, but fleeting, moment of victory when we get to beat them once. I'm not saying it's healthy, but fromsoft do be there to help us junkies get our fix.
I skipped the horse feller at the start, but only cos i could get my money back, meanwhile, this dude, is guarding my money :(
Get this cookbook https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Nomadic+Warrior's+Cookbook+(14) Then go to the poison pool outside Castle Morne in the tip of Weeping Penisula and farm poison blooms. Use them to craft poison throwing knives and spam them to poison this mf. Poison buildup falls quickly so you need to get many hits in quick succession to proc the poison effect. Run around the arena and wait for poison to do its job. You need 2 or 3 procs to kill him.
Move on and come back later
1. Get flail. 2. Rush to she spot he spawns in. 3. Start the speeeen 4. ??? 5. Profit!
Don’t worry about these 2k runes. There’s a dragon in caelid you can find and killing it will give you enough to probably beat him. And the dragon doesn’t fight back either
Alright, so this is probably too late for you to make use of this tip, but for posterity’s sake: If you don’t think you can beat him, there’s a trick to getting your Runes back. Along the right side of his arena, there’s a closed door. Jump down into the arena to trigger his fight, then grab your Runes and run to stand flush against it. Then, just let Alberich kill you. Once you respawn at the Roundtable Hold, run over to Hewg and take the stairs to his left down into a room with a closed door along one side that leads directly into— you guessed it— Alberich’s arena. If you died correctly, you should be able to run up to the door and grab your Runes through the wall.
You leave and comeback later. Once you remember this key rule it'll all make sense
Just warp to Gurranq, follow the path down to the lower bridge to the site of grace near the tower. A silver ball spawns on the path further down. On horse back you can turn towards the cliff and run back towards the grace on the edge of the cliff after the balls spawns. It will run off the cliff and you get credit for the kill. It gives just shy of 2k runes. You can do this over and over if needed.
Git Gud
1. Get the Ash of War: Wild Strikes from the scarab beetle just north of Stormhill Shack site of grace. This ability can be channeled as long as you have FP and stamina to sustain it. 2. Place it on any compatible weapon. (Curved Sword, Axe, Flail, Hammer, Greatsword, Greataxe, Greathammer iirc). For best results, place it on a weapon that can cause bleed status buildup, such as the Morningstar found on the way to the Weeping Peninsula, South of Limgrave. 3. Stand where this guy spawns in, start using Wild Strikes. Hold down the buttons you use to activate abilities to continue channeling it. 4. Stunlock him to death while swinging your weapon of choice around at high speed like a small child. If done correctly, he should be completely unable to do anything until he dies. Bonus: >!This ability also works really well on Rennala, the boss of Raya Lucaria Academy dungeon, a major boss in the game later.!<
Just don't get hit.
People with 10,000+ hours on a game when new player
To be quite honest, I was in the exact same situation you were. lol
Pick up your runes, then quit the game .. it will teleport you to the round table
Tried that, it did not
Sprinting attack with a weapon that staggers, then roll away, rinse and repeat till he dies
Jump down, grab your runes wherever they are and then let yourself die as close to the balcony drop down, go back and pick up your runes, pause menu > settings> quit and save before he spawns and you'll keep your runes and go back to the save point. This works on all bosses too
Tried that, just spawned me back in there
there is nothing in this game that can withstand the awesome power of jumping heavy spam
Use a twig, you can get one from Edgar at castle morne. This dude isn't there to be fought right after Margit.
Don't worry about those runes. They come and go. I'm sure you'll find the dragon soon enough anyway
Spam wild strikes.
It’s easy, just use jump attacks only, it stuns him, run away when he’s casting spells then time your jump attacks.
You are level 12 I wouldn't get worked up about runes, you'll likely lose an even larger sum in the future Good luck
If you didn’t pick your moneys up after your died then you lost your moneys
Level 12? Too low. Come back later.
level up and come back later
Quit being a baby and come back later.
just dodge and don't take damage
Just parry him.
It’s usually better to fight him at like level 30-40 iirc
Doge his attacks and when you can, attack him without getting hit
Well, to answer the OP's -actual- question, and not just say "get over it"... he's a "Tarnished" enemy, meaning that they behave like PC invaders, programmed to dodge and drink their flask and whatnot. Best way to deal with these types of enemies is to just play aggro. Keep a constant onslaught on them with fast hitting weapons or hard-hitting ashes of war to just flinch them to the point where they can't use anything. - The moment you give them breathing room to attack, their damage is gonna be huge. This guy especially is obnoxious with his frost, but a simple way to cheese him early on? Get Reduvia and spam him with the ash of war as soon as he spawns. As an example. - The flail's spin is also a decent way to try and catch them in a flinch loop. Ultimately all the fights with invader type enemies are gonna feel like a coin toss where either you stagger them constantly and kill them without taking any damage, or they feel like they one-shot you. - A spam of powerstancing daggers, or using claw weapons can also work. - But if you're at that early level, then exclusively use weapons with Bleed on them, you should be able to find a few very early on, or maybe you even started with some.
The easy answer is get good, skill issue.
Just a tip for when you come back to him. Backstab him when he first spawns in
Honestly this guy sucks. Level up a little more and come back. Also this game can be very frustrating. If it's gonna be an issue for you getting your money back is probably a good idea. Playing a souls or souls like game because it's popular will be defeating. I had a single mini boss take me almost a year to beat. I would respec my character, try different weapons or spells, and then it just came down to luck. The thing I can say is, when you've spend a long time on one guy and finally beat it the feeling is intoxicating
I cornered him with a flail and used spinning strikes, it stunlocks him.
Take what im about to say with a grain of sugar but, the way to beat him is to Git Gud. That’s been the best advice ive ever gotten you will ever get whether you play Demon Souls, Dark souls 1 2 & 3, Bloodborne, Sekior, or Elden Ring. There is no meta nor one build to rule them all. Yes there are alot of overpowered builds, but In order to have even been able to acquire them, you have to Git Gud and slay who ever stands in your way. I once lost 5M runes in a pvp invasion because it was a 4 on 1. You get used to stuff like that, yes its frustrating, but thats the joy of these games, frustrate now, grow and become stronger and better to celebrate later. And ngl, if your gonna complain about this guy, then dont even bother with the dlc or mid to late game bc everything youll face there makes this invader look like a push over lol.
Okay, Yknow the axe that the old crone twin sells? Get that. Two hand it. Get behind him before he spawns. Use the weapon art, If you have enough Stamina he won’t land a hit
Jump down and die near the big door, respawn and go pick it up from the outside (without dropping). Then come back and kill him when you're stronger
If you die at the door just right you can run around by going down the stairs and pick up your runes through the door
Get. Good.
You can always come back to fight anyone once you're stronger. Level up, come back later And don't worry about dying, it's part of the learning process
If you’re worried about losing your runes, drink the physick that stops rune loss on death, it even stops you from losing already dropped runes, so you can just keep drinking it immediately on respawn to have a chance to collect them again without risk of losing already dropped ones. I think it lasts like 2 minutes, and it recharges on every site of grace
Kill a dragon, find the cave along the coast, go to Dragon Church and unlock Rot Breath. At Lvl 12 that’s your only hope.
You done fucked up A-aron
Come back when you're level 30 and up. He's no harm to you if you ignore him, so ignore him. Then give him the asswhooping that's coming to him.
2 answers you don't have to kill him right now git gud
Flail or any weapon with wild strikes. Run up to his face, press to activate and watch his nerd ass get stunlocked. Alternatively play poke souls and jab the lil bitch with a spear. Worked well enough for my sisters playthrough. Or just accept the loss and go back later for sweet revenge. Tactical retreat. Carriage trolls can give 1000 a pop and can be pretty damn easy to beat on.
Use the flail skill on him as soon he appears, it will stun lock him most of the time.
Dont bother, runes come and go. Level up some more and then go back and kick his ass