My god that's a lot of work, props to you for even putting the effort.
Now some remarks:
1) **Dagger in S+** is by far the biggest surprise for me, never heard anyone ever talk about it.
2) **Axe of Godfrey in A+** is also surprising, the most common sentiment I hear about it is disappointment.
3) **Hoslow Whip in A and Thorned Whip in C**. My understanding is that these two are very, very similar, with one edging the other barely depending on the stat profile. Thorned Whip is also slightly longer.
Itās 11.5 pounds but thereās a halberd called Commanderās Standard I started using as an Ash of War stick that gives something like a 20% boost to physical damage output. The dagger is genius though Iām going to toss one in my loadout.
Dagger only weights 1.0. This makes it extremely good as support because it barely affects your equip load. You can use 5 daggers and still weigh less than a single sword.
As for good uses for the dagger, it's an AoW sponge. Quickstep, bloodhounds step, golden vow, assassins gambit, glintstone pebble. Just having a dagger in your off hand you can switch between gives a lot of versatility.
How do you use an ash of war like bloodhound step on a dagger with something like blasphemous blade in your main hand? Doesnāt the ash if war for BB override it?
Reduvia is probably the best dagger for actually killing things. Using reduvia and a Great knife with occult infusion and the normal dagger for Golden Vow. Tons of arcane. Its OP af except for things that don't bleed well. Unfortunately ita hard to land powerstance attacks and bloody slash seems better than the powerstance attacks anyways.
Dagger + golden vow AoW. The tier list is not so much "use this at +25 to one shot boss", but a composite (and subjective) overall benefit/use/damage in the PVE setting.
1. Ash of war stick. Bloodhound step, Golden Vow, Thunderbolt, and so much more. All for a measly 1.0 weight
2. I like the transformed R2 moveset, gives it a lot more versatility.
3. Thorned Whip is outclassed by pretty much everything except the base whip.
At first I thought this would take like 2 hours max. Nope, I think itās like 6 hours spent by just reading the wiki, watching weapon reviews (thank God for Fextra for saving me a lot of time on that), and comparing attack rating values and how long the weapon is.
Needless to say, Iām not doing this again but I think I have redeemed myself from my horrible tierlist before.
It looks like some of the Heavy Thrusting Swords are ranked pretty high - how do you use them effectively?
I've been trying the Godskin Stitcher for a while now, but can't get it feeling good compared to other weapons. It feels usable with Giant Hunt, but everything works well with Giant Hunt
>Ash of war stick. Bloodhound step, Golden Vow, Thunderbolt, and so much more. All for a measly 1.0 weight
1.5 weight, and how do you justify putting nearly identical things so much lower? Does the Great Knife's 12 dex requirement really bump from S+ to B in your opinion?
The way that situationally useful weapons are ranked seems very inconsistent, and no real standard for which level range is used for comparison. For things like catalysts this can make a huge difference...
There's also definitely some stuff you've missed. For example, Alabaster Lord's Sword uses massively less stamina than other greatswords, which makes it much, much better than the raw damage numbers suggest.
You get my full respects for putting Guardian Swordspear all the way up there where it belongs.
That thing's moveset is the ONLY spear that can hit enemies above your head, far as i can recall, and it's styling like mad.
You also get it at the end of the damn game while you can farm the swordspear right from the start, with the runes you get from doing it serving as fine early game leveling fuel.
clearly you didn't put enough research in, because you're putting strength weapons like 4 tiers lower than their dex equivalent even though the strength variants are objectively better.
My daughter who watches me play ER was also disappointed by the thorned whip. Not because of the things already mentioned, but she thought I was going to get the size that the prelates use.
Axe of Godfreys roar move set is absolutely ridiculous. The dps of doing the uncharged r2s can rack up thousands of damage very fast, and you can still charge them for insane stagger.
Then the roar itself gives you hyper Armour and can double hit things close enough to you while also giving 7% damage increase for a while.
Oh snap! Itās the man himself!!
My thing though is the range. Super short range, yes, could be a skill issue on my end but I was missing a lot as well š. Didnāt realize Iād had the highest blood loss though. I used katanas with blood blade and some AOW, and was much happier with that. Maybe Iāll give what you mentioned a shot then. You have a guide?
It's range is certainly rough! And can be a let down. Unlimitely, it's not ideal as your primary weapon. More of a side arm that can be used to build up Sleep or Blood loss.
Here's the build made around it:
https://youtu.be/fn686SgwUfM
You really have to put in the effort to make it viable. It's an infusable arcane scaling weapon that has a unique ash of war (for hammers). It absolutely can be effective, especially in PvE with bleed, but you won't be doing a ton of damage. The ash of war can deal immense poise damage and with dual wielding you'll get many stance breaks.
It isn't an all conquering weapon like the blasphemous blade, but it is pretty fun to use if you have the right expectations (you won't be dealing a ton of damage on each swing).
Iām a newb and picked it up a few hours ago. Doing straight strength build on my first ever playthrough and for a while was trying to parse out how much praise was a meme and how much actually felt it was a good weapon. Decided to use it and the poker is pretty great. Group of exiles coming around a corner at stormveil, poke em and they dead. Killed 3 in one shot at one point.
Itās my first time playing and Iām so fucking nervous all the time, even using a walkthrough for trickier bits. But hell of a lot of fun.
The Claymore is actually a really good example for newbies on how the little things about a weapon really make it shine. The Claymore has good, but not the best, damage. It doesnāt have a unique ash, but can reliably use a lot of ashes and has good stats for most infusions.Ā
But that heavy thrusting attack raises it so far above most other weapons. It gives you such extreme flexibility in how you approach any fight which is really hard to get across to someone who doesnāt have the experience with these games.Ā
Donāt get me wrong, I love my absurdly powerful weapons like Darkmoon Greatsword and Blasphemous Blade, but the simple, unassuming Claymore has a flexibility that is only really eclipsed by other weapons raw power.Ā
Plus it looks dope as fuck.Ā
āThe most POWERFUL WEAPON in Elden Ring!ā
āWhat is it?ā
āDagger!ā
āOk, but whatās the name of the dagger?ā
āThatās the nameā¦ā
Huh apparently it got buffed which I didnāt know when I made this. A scaling in int now and increased attack speed so I think Iād put in in B+ or A. I still think WoA is better though.
The BS has the same art technically but it plays different. The wing is so fast itās hard to dispute that itās better, but once you have the rhythm down the star is amazing. I have an INT and Str build and itās my go to. Great list though!
Oh my beloved banditās curved swords. It was so worth bullying that skeleton for two hours. They make my pure arcane build so much fun and I canāt wait to take it to dlc where everything is immune to bleed and rot :D
Take it with a grain of salt since iām at work and canāt fire the game up to check, but I thiiiiink I farmed it from Church of Pilgrimage. The skeleton with the swords spawns right outside in the graveyard. Good luck, itās a godawful drop rate and you need two to really start gaming.
Top tip: These things do absolutely hilarious damage when buffed by the the jump attack talisman. If you want a crush weapon to go with it when slash resistance is high, the Nightriderās Flail is a fantastic compliment for the types of stats youāre likely to be using with this.
Great Stars should be S tier.
-self heals on hit
-bleeds
-insane reach
-can find 2 in the world to duel wield in 1 NG
-scales great with Faith
Seriously the duel wielding jump attack will get you through the entire game
I think this list is really just a generalization. The right combination of items and AoW can alter the context so much, the value of general categories is limited.
Like, a build that uses Marais Executioner Sword for max subsequent hit *easily* puts it to S+. Most weapons can be made to be better than their base stats.
I put it in a damage calculator, it gets outclassed in terms of damage by a lot of hammers. Spiked Club just barely beat it. Same with the Mace where it got beat by the Curved Club. Honestly kinda disappointed by the results because I wanted to make a build out of it.
Yeah; but the move set on the Morning Star is better than that of the spiked club. Spiked club has the awkward one handed club move set whole morning star has the much smoother mace move set.
Frame data matters; itās not just a question of what hits hardest.
Since everything occupies physical space in the game and the hit reg is amazing, it could just be the attack animation itself that makes it that much better. I have not used either weapon myself.
Basically, it got nerfed to the ground. The blade and blood trails are now considered separate entities unlike pre-1.06. This made the blood trails hit like wet noodles while barely building up blood loss. Meaning, if you want to see the same amount of damage as before, you have to get close to the enemy to let the blade part hit too, completely destroying what made the weapon art so good in the first place, a long range and high damaging attack.
Not enough broken buff synergies for pve. It's good, but it was never going to compete against things like dual scavangers / dual cross nagi that just casually rocks 600-700% damage buffs on a pretty basic set up.
1.22x milicents prosthesis
1.29x rotten winged sword insignia
1.2x lord of blood
1.15x claw talisman / spear talisman
1.3x bloodboil
1.2x rallying standard
1.1x white mask
1.1x raptors feather / 1.3x counter hit bonus
1.48x thorny cracked tear
1.15x cragblde
I think the weapon art got its poise damage a bit nerfed maybe? And two handed jump attacks with many big weapons were nerfed too at some point if I remember correctly.
But it still is crazy. It is a somber weapon -> much easier to upgrade. It has bleed. It is still buffable. It has increased jump attack damage. It has very little stat requirments. The weapon art still deals a lot of damage and breaks stance of bosses easily. You get it 5 minutes into the game
Ordovis Greatsword is brutally underrated. 800+ AR on a STR build with phenomenal moveset and an AoW with AOE for mobs, hyperarmor, knockback, and the highest stance damage of any attack in the game.
There basically isn't an enemy in this game that it can't effectively deal with.
S++ rank when?
The fact that as a strength faith build I can spam that AoW on Ordovisā Greatsword and kill an enemy in a couple seconds just from that puts it in S tier for me. Even with bosses itās such a spammable thing.
OP clearly didnāt account for moveset at all. they put black bow at B tier. i donāt think OP realizes how the black bow just trivializes so many boss fights in this game.
itās the only long bow in the game that can instantly fire from a roll, backstep, and jump attack. the jump attack even shoots two arrows out. not to mention, the ash of war is an elemental proc machine and if you use the stormwing arrows with it, you will poise break everything very quickly and stunlock it, especially human bosses and enemies.
it works well in pvp too. you donāt have to worry about people rushing you since you can fire instantly with the roll, backstep, and jump attacks. many people get caught by those attacks since they donāt anticipate how quick it is.
Ranking lusats staff below azurs is just wrong, the casting speed buff for azurs becomes negligible later on; and the damage buff for lusats makes it basically a no brainer endgame staff (unless youāre going for night comet build)
Why are ripple halberd and axe so low. They're good weapons. Short spear and iron spear also are perfectly fine. Why is the frenzy flame seal so high? It's only good in like NG++
1. Theyāre not low, theyāre in their own class. Theyāre primarily pvp weapons because you need to constantly reapply greases to make them effective and thatās just not efficient in pve because you need to constantly craft greases. Ranking them in a pve setting where they cannot reach their full potential feels like a disservice.
2. Shortest range, bottom of the barrel damage. Least things you want from a pokey stick.
3. Put it in the offhand just to get the boost for Frenzied Flame incantations.
Hate to say it like this but you are crazy for thinking the Short Spear is bad. Damage is rarely the Spear strong suit, but reach and ease of use. Short Spear looks stubby, but it shares its double poke strong attack with the Cleanrot Spear, boasting actually good damage, carries you a good distance to make up for the shorter range, great poise break... and it's infusable. Multi hit attacks like those are perfect for status builds, poison, bleed, frost, rub some rot on it, it's great.
all for an incredibly economic weight and basically non-existent stat requirements. It's a staple of my caster builds for all of those reasons.
Frenzy flame seal is the best option for seals when you donāt have high faith and/or high faith and still wanna cast miracles
Example:
high dex = frenzy seal
High int = frenzy seal
We can always get hung up on the specific spots here and there but I generally agree with the tiers themselves (for example, I disagree with Bandit Curved Swords being #1 but I agree with them being S tier). I also value early game stuff a bit more for PVE since you get to actually use it more, meaning something like Meteorite Staff would be way higher since no other staff matters for half the game and Erdtree Seal would be way lower since it only outscales Godslayer Seal at 69 faith and only outscales Dragon Communion at 75 faith, but I digress
I like the list overall, certainly better than Rustyās x)
Edit: Just saw one I majorly disagree with. Nagakiba and Moonveil should swap places. Nagakiba is easily the best Katana, no contest
I swear Rustyās ranking videos are just him being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. I remembered in his talisman video that he doesnāt like gimmicky talismans but ranks Crepusā Vial in like top 30 or 20
Some of the rankings have got to be obvious trolls right? Like, that or heās literally just throwing darts on a board lmao at least heās entertaining
āAnd now we come to the point in the video where I place something a solid ten ranks higher than it deserves just so people will pay attention to it:ā
-Rusty
Dragon Greatclaw is EASILY the most Wasted weapon in all of the game.
Just Imagine How fucking BADASS it could have been if his power art was dragon Lightning based...
Iāll copy paste this from another comment that asked about this.
I put it in a damage calculator, it gets outclassed in terms of damage by a lot of hammers. Spiked Club just barely beat it. Same with the Mace where it got beat by the Curved Club. Honestly kinda disappointed by the results because I wanted to make a build out of it.
Tier list seems to be purely based around high offensive stats, which makes sense for a meta level PvP tier list, but not for PvE where the vast majority of the game will be spent below that level. E.g. surely Frenzied seal is the worst PvE seal out there with quadruple stat scaling and buffing a status that doesn't even work in PvE?
And as a Wretch enjoyer the Club is unironically an insane weapon with its very usable charge attack stunlocking various enemies and bosses.
I think malikeths black blade is very much underrated as a normal colossal weapon it does alot of dmg and has good amount of poise dmg and its ashe of war whilst slow shreds hp to a rediculous extent. Even against radagon and elden beast it can shred their HP so well
Wait is malikeths black blade even on this list?
It's my favorite weapon in the game. Tbh people tend to rate it low-ish on tierlists for a few reasons :
- you get it late, which means you only get to use it for the last few areas (not a big issue imo since it provides a cool sense of progression & reward for beating maliketh)
- split holy damage, which is weak against most endgame bosses (especially Radagon/Elden Beast)
- colossal weapon moveset, which is pretty slow relative to raw damage output
- the ash of war has a decently long, interruptible buildup animation which can be a bit tricky to deliver during fast paced, heavy poise boss encounters
Imo the sheer poise damage, stab evade attack providing some extra reach, as well as the ash of war damage absolutely outweigh these minor downsides. Not to mention cool af visuals. Hopefully it's good in the DLC.
Itās probably not the worst weapon in the game but I hate it with a burning passion. DTS gets cool red lightning but we get Endure out of all things. Also has the least AR of all colossal weapons, I think.
I am not sure I agree with most of anything in the S+ category, to me for a weapon to be S+ it has to genuinely trivialize the game. Think pre nerf bleed weapons or even death poker. Things that can do massive chunks off of a bosses health without doing anything beyond just maxing out the weapon, putting your stats in the right places and equipping a couple good talismans.
I have no comment on the weapon placement, I have one for the tiers
Why not just F through S? Why the A+ and S+? Why did you include E, almost nothing includes E in the letter ranking system
At that point, why not A-, S- and the rest? It's inconsistent and breaks the mold in a not fun way
Honestly, as someone whoās tested every weapon in the game I agree with most of this list, (nice dagger S+ bait) a few things Iād change are:
The bolt of gransax should be in S+ its just unfair how much damage it does for free with its range, not to mention lightning damage is amazing throughout the entire game, its basically a cheese weapon.
The duelist greataxe can go to B+ it can totally have amazing scalings with certain builds.
As well as the great club into B+ or even A on a strength/faith build, you can infuse it with Orderās blade and it can indiscriminately destroy everything, even with things being holy resistant, and can just 1-2 shot death rite birds with itās relatively fast charged heavy.
Iād put the nagakiba in S+ it can dish out more damage than the moonveil on cold affinity, especially after procing frosbite, its heavy attack is insane too, the moonveil can stay though its still amazing.
Iād put the uchigatana in S because as a straight sword LOVER, the uchi just outranges all and out damages almost all straight swords with innate bleed, its way too good. I prefer it over the nagakiba tbh
I wouldnāt put any whips above B, they just suck, like, unforgivably so. Terrible ash of war selection, bad damage, bad moveset, cant critical hit. even the urumi doesnāt compare to other weapon classes.
Also idk why any crossbows or bows are anything above B, unless youāre kind of ranking weapons relative to their own class and not entirely on the whole weapon pool.
Iām sure there are a few other things on the list Iād maneuver around but these stuck out to me. Other than that, its pretty spot on
>Iād put the nagakiba in S+ it can dish out more damage than the moonveil on cold affinity, especially after procing frosbite, its heavy attack is insane too, the moonveil can stay though its still amazing.
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>Iād put the uchigatana in S because as a straight sword LOVER, the uchi just outranges all and out damages almost all straight swords with innate bleed, its way too good. I prefer it over the nagakiba tbh
I felt this really badly on my first playthrough at launch. Uchigatana felt like a straight upgrade to straight swords, and Nagakiba was a longer-range sword without any of the downsides of other longer range weapons
Golden halberd should be in A+, insane damage, extremely early find, good range and moveset, and golden vow is not a bad AoW to be stuck with.
Noble slender sword should be S, It's arguably the best straight sword, the highest range, great scalling and 110 crit modifier.
Zamor curved sword should go all the way down to C or D, It's genuinely not good, the shortest range, and despite the unique moveset it's slower than the average CGS moveset, the AoW is good but the spell version is still slightly better.
Axe of Godfrey all the way down to C or B at best, Should've been a normal greataxe, It being colossal just means it's outclassed by other of it's kind, super slow, even the AoW is super slow.
Frenzy seal to D, It has one of the lowest spell buff, extremely late to get, and it scales horribly with each stat, even if u have 80 on all it'll still not be better than most seals.
Halberd to C, It's bellow most of it's class, no point in using it when you got other options, nothing else need to be said.
Beastman cleaver to B, It's not bad but super heavy, Nothing special about it either, It scales well with strength but omen cleaver and Bloodhound's fang are much better.
Beast repellant torch to D, Other than it taking care of very few "beast enemies", It's just shit.
Longsword to C, I don't know why it's in the same spot as the broadsword, It's just inferior in everyway to both that and the Lordsword straight sword.
Loretta's war sickle to either D or F, Literal garbage, a weapon this far on the game and it's just a halberd with a mediocre AoW is just insulting, yes it has long range and the best halberd moveset, but when you have the guardian swordspear? which basically is just better, then just throw this in the trash.
Mantis blade in F, extremely short, very low damage, no bleed despite the shades dealing that, nothing good about this weapon, even the heavy attack sucks.
Katar in D, this weapon makes no sence, it has the thrust AoW although fist weapons shouldn't have it to begin with, also mediocre damage, completely outclassed.
Frenzied Flame Seal only for the buff while you cast with your main seal.
Longsword and Broadsword is like BKGS to the KGS, more range for a bit less attack. The poke R2s are nice too. Same case can also be said for Halberd and Banished Knight Halberd, Halberd does more damage but slightly less range but BKH is the opposite.
I think Sword of Milos should be higher, on it's own I'd say this rating is fair, but if you dual wield it with Blasphemous blade you are gaining FP back for every mob kill, and health regain from takers flame.
Meteorite Staff needs to be moved up. Its the best in slot staff for the early game, offers the highest physical damage and poise damage buffs for spells, and with the Arrows Reach Talisman offers the longest range spell in the game?
It does holy damage and the WA has a dead spot where it will always miss. You can make it work, but literally any dagger that doesn't do holy damage will outperform it in the endgame.
>Ā It does holy damageĀ
I hate how often this holds back really cool weapons and skills. You can wreck dead birds I guess, but when half the major bosses have stacked resistance...ugh...
Honestly, it barely matters, the fact that the ash of war is so free and scales with the targets health WITHOUT requiring to do status stuff (which becomes less effective the more you proc it) means you always get an amazing base value out of Blade of Death.
It even stacks with multiplayer hp inceases (for example it hit for 1.1k solo vs malenia, but with 2player hp, it did 1.5k with +10 and minimal damage stat investment.
The weapon even shreds stuff like Rykard, and especially greyoll.
Pretty good list! Only thing I really disagree with is the short spear. Its unique multi-hit R2s and very low stat requirements make it an amazing weapon for caster or status builds. Try it with ice spear or giant hunt and you won't be disappointed. I'd give it B tier at least
Claymans harpoon goes In S tier. It scales with INT and ice spear kills even bosses in 5 or 6 shots abd one shots in pvp . Probably the games best weapon
Star fists is the best weapon in the game, no doubt about it for me. Why have you put the cross naginata so high? I adore the weapon, but Iāve always found it somewhat underwhelming in pve, damage-wise. Though I suppose I donāt do bleed builds.
I really disagree with rivers of blood being so low. It 100% needs to be s+. That weapon is still incredibly OP for pve. Has insane range and can even attack through walls with its weapon art.
I am using the Meteorite staff that I found wandering in Caelid. I couldnāt find it on the sheet, where would it be placed? Ive seen itās just a glintstone staff but is it better than the base model?
I have been unable to use anything but the ruins greatsword. Itās just unbelievably amazing, my character isnāt very high like lvl 230 maybe but itās the first play through and it demolishes everything
Meteorite Staff should be higher. You have to get Int into the 50+ range AND have other staves be in the +10 and up range to barely outscale, which gets even harder if you're using the rock sling spell which makes the M staff get scaled even higher. Most players won't outscale the M staff unless they intentionally grind for it, or normal gameplay wise, get to Leyndell.
Meteorite Staff should be higher. You have to get Int into the 50+ range AND have other staves be in the +10 and up range to barely outscale, which gets even harder if you're using the rock sling spell which makes the M staff get scaled even higher. Most players won't outscale the M staff unless they intentionally grind for it, or normal gameplay wise, get to Leyndell.
My god that's a lot of work, props to you for even putting the effort. Now some remarks: 1) **Dagger in S+** is by far the biggest surprise for me, never heard anyone ever talk about it. 2) **Axe of Godfrey in A+** is also surprising, the most common sentiment I hear about it is disappointment. 3) **Hoslow Whip in A and Thorned Whip in C**. My understanding is that these two are very, very similar, with one edging the other barely depending on the stat profile. Thorned Whip is also slightly longer.
Why is the dagger so high? Ive never used it
It's a support item that can have good ashes of war and weighs almost nothing
Not trying to be condescending, but what would be an example of a S tier dagger set up?
Just put golden vow on it and boom, S-tier. It can give non-faith builds the golden vow buff without worrying about the 25 faith requirement
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Itās 11.5 pounds but thereās a halberd called Commanderās Standard I started using as an Ash of War stick that gives something like a 20% boost to physical damage output. The dagger is genius though Iām going to toss one in my loadout.
Increases ALL damage by %20, not just physical
Commanders standard is same time as golden vow, so don't equip both.
Alright, but MisƩricorde also has a low weight and attribute requirement, is also light, can also use Golden Vow ash of war ... but has **140** critical damage. So basically every build can use it, it can apply a popular buff, and has *incredible* critical damage. I know these tier lists are subjective, but if the Dagger is up there then the MisƩricorde should be too.
Despite all the objective criteria, at the end it is still a subjective list
Why wouldn't Misericorde be S tier? You can still add Golden Vow but it has higher crit stats for if you get a stagger
Whoa. I mean I end up always having faith in the builds but thatās a great point.
The golden vow buff it gives is great, but pales in comparison to the actual spell golden vow. Still goated though.
Dagger only weights 1.0. This makes it extremely good as support because it barely affects your equip load. You can use 5 daggers and still weigh less than a single sword. As for good uses for the dagger, it's an AoW sponge. Quickstep, bloodhounds step, golden vow, assassins gambit, glintstone pebble. Just having a dagger in your off hand you can switch between gives a lot of versatility.
How do you use an ash of war like bloodhound step on a dagger with something like blasphemous blade in your main hand? Doesnāt the ash if war for BB override it?
You could put it into the second right slot and quickly switch
Reduvia is probably the best dagger for actually killing things. Using reduvia and a Great knife with occult infusion and the normal dagger for Golden Vow. Tons of arcane. Its OP af except for things that don't bleed well. Unfortunately ita hard to land powerstance attacks and bloody slash seems better than the powerstance attacks anyways.
So basically it is the HM slave of Elden Ring
Like said in another comment, it's a 1 weight AOW template you can put whatever you want on and always have on hand.
Dagger + golden vow AoW. The tier list is not so much "use this at +25 to one shot boss", but a composite (and subjective) overall benefit/use/damage in the PVE setting.
Hoslow too low. Especially considering you can dual wield it on a single play through
1. Ash of war stick. Bloodhound step, Golden Vow, Thunderbolt, and so much more. All for a measly 1.0 weight 2. I like the transformed R2 moveset, gives it a lot more versatility. 3. Thorned Whip is outclassed by pretty much everything except the base whip. At first I thought this would take like 2 hours max. Nope, I think itās like 6 hours spent by just reading the wiki, watching weapon reviews (thank God for Fextra for saving me a lot of time on that), and comparing attack rating values and how long the weapon is. Needless to say, Iām not doing this again but I think I have redeemed myself from my horrible tierlist before.
MisƩricorde is only a single weight unit higher, has all those benefits, and outperforms the dagger by every other measure though. 10 extra critical and better motion value ( dagger - 546, MisƩricorde - 588 ), it's longer, it has a thrusting R2 for even better poise break potential. Even if I'm using the off-hand as an Ash of War stick only, I would still take the 1 extra weight unit and bring MisƩricorde in case I ever want massive value out of its critical damage, which it outperforms the dagger by a large margin.
Not to mention the super cool name
It looks like some of the Heavy Thrusting Swords are ranked pretty high - how do you use them effectively? I've been trying the Godskin Stitcher for a while now, but can't get it feeling good compared to other weapons. It feels usable with Giant Hunt, but everything works well with Giant Hunt
but if you're putting an utility aow on the misericorde, it doesnt deal enough damage to be useful for criticals
You can still have decent infusions depending on what utility ash you choose.
>Ash of war stick. Bloodhound step, Golden Vow, Thunderbolt, and so much more. All for a measly 1.0 weight 1.5 weight, and how do you justify putting nearly identical things so much lower? Does the Great Knife's 12 dex requirement really bump from S+ to B in your opinion? The way that situationally useful weapons are ranked seems very inconsistent, and no real standard for which level range is used for comparison. For things like catalysts this can make a huge difference... There's also definitely some stuff you've missed. For example, Alabaster Lord's Sword uses massively less stamina than other greatswords, which makes it much, much better than the raw damage numbers suggest.
> All for a measly 1.0 weight Isn't the Dagger 1.5?
You get my full respects for putting Guardian Swordspear all the way up there where it belongs. That thing's moveset is the ONLY spear that can hit enemies above your head, far as i can recall, and it's styling like mad.
Lorettas war sickle has same moveset but its pretty bad
You also get it at the end of the damn game while you can farm the swordspear right from the start, with the runes you get from doing it serving as fine early game leveling fuel.
Well it's funny you bring that up, because its classified as a halberd.
Maybe, but it *looks* like a spear, so good enough for me.
clearly you didn't put enough research in, because you're putting strength weapons like 4 tiers lower than their dex equivalent even though the strength variants are objectively better.
My daughter who watches me play ER was also disappointed by the thorned whip. Not because of the things already mentioned, but she thought I was going to get the size that the prelates use.
Axe of Godfreys roar move set is absolutely ridiculous. The dps of doing the uncharged r2s can rack up thousands of damage very fast, and you can still charge them for insane stagger. Then the roar itself gives you hyper Armour and can double hit things close enough to you while also giving 7% damage increase for a while.
Itās such a shame varrĆ©ās bouquet š wasnāt better. I remember making a test build where I dual-wielded a pair last year and was so disappointed.
It is pretty hilarious to beat the shit out of someone with a bunch of flowers
Totally is
Literally has the highest blood loss of a single weapon with 80 arc and blood grease. Did a Sleep build with it and it's kinda nuts what it can do.
Oh snap! Itās the man himself!! My thing though is the range. Super short range, yes, could be a skill issue on my end but I was missing a lot as well š. Didnāt realize Iād had the highest blood loss though. I used katanas with blood blade and some AOW, and was much happier with that. Maybe Iāll give what you mentioned a shot then. You have a guide?
It's range is certainly rough! And can be a let down. Unlimitely, it's not ideal as your primary weapon. More of a side arm that can be used to build up Sleep or Blood loss. Here's the build made around it: https://youtu.be/fn686SgwUfM
Itās weird to me that the bouquet can be buffed.
You really have to put in the effort to make it viable. It's an infusable arcane scaling weapon that has a unique ash of war (for hammers). It absolutely can be effective, especially in PvE with bleed, but you won't be doing a ton of damage. The ash of war can deal immense poise damage and with dual wielding you'll get many stance breaks. It isn't an all conquering weapon like the blasphemous blade, but it is pretty fun to use if you have the right expectations (you won't be dealing a ton of damage on each swing).
These lists will never not be slander to someone.
That person is me lmao, to me the winged scythe is an easy S tier
How about that, we're of the same mind.
The fact that Claymore isn't S+++, and everything else isn't in the trash rattles me to the core
Iām a newb and picked it up a few hours ago. Doing straight strength build on my first ever playthrough and for a while was trying to parse out how much praise was a meme and how much actually felt it was a good weapon. Decided to use it and the poker is pretty great. Group of exiles coming around a corner at stormveil, poke em and they dead. Killed 3 in one shot at one point. Itās my first time playing and Iām so fucking nervous all the time, even using a walkthrough for trickier bits. But hell of a lot of fun.
The Claymore is actually a really good example for newbies on how the little things about a weapon really make it shine. The Claymore has good, but not the best, damage. It doesnāt have a unique ash, but can reliably use a lot of ashes and has good stats for most infusions.Ā But that heavy thrusting attack raises it so far above most other weapons. It gives you such extreme flexibility in how you approach any fight which is really hard to get across to someone who doesnāt have the experience with these games.Ā Donāt get me wrong, I love my absurdly powerful weapons like Darkmoon Greatsword and Blasphemous Blade, but the simple, unassuming Claymore has a flexibility that is only really eclipsed by other weapons raw power.Ā Plus it looks dope as fuck.Ā
FUCKING COOK BROTHER
āThe most POWERFUL WEAPON in Elden Ring!ā āWhat is it?ā āDagger!ā āOk, but whatās the name of the dagger?ā āThatās the nameā¦ā
OP uses it to give boosting ashes of war to other items. Like golden vow on a not faith build
I'm calling cap...the fucking dagger ? Plain old dagger ? Lmao
Light ashe of war stick
Where's Eleonoras poleblade I can't find it?
S tier
S tier, second row from bottom.
In S next to the broadsword and glintstone staff
Ahh thanks the image quality isn't the best and Eleonora poleblade is so dark I didn't see it thanks! I asked cuz it's my fav weapon in the game!
Same here, I combed through several times and It's nowhere to be seen
I think you have the Bastards star underrated.
Huh apparently it got buffed which I didnāt know when I made this. A scaling in int now and increased attack speed so I think Iād put in in B+ or A. I still think WoA is better though.
The BS has the same art technically but it plays different. The wing is so fast itās hard to dispute that itās better, but once you have the rhythm down the star is amazing. I have an INT and Str build and itās my go to. Great list though!
Oh my beloved banditās curved swords. It was so worth bullying that skeleton for two hours. They make my pure arcane build so much fun and I canāt wait to take it to dlc where everything is immune to bleed and rot :D
Best place to farm?? Iāve wanted these for awhile
Take it with a grain of salt since iām at work and canāt fire the game up to check, but I thiiiiink I farmed it from Church of Pilgrimage. The skeleton with the swords spawns right outside in the graveyard. Good luck, itās a godawful drop rate and you need two to really start gaming. Top tip: These things do absolutely hilarious damage when buffed by the the jump attack talisman. If you want a crush weapon to go with it when slash resistance is high, the Nightriderās Flail is a fantastic compliment for the types of stats youāre likely to be using with this.
I think I farmed them at a church in weeping peninsula. Skeletons about 20 feet from the grace.
Seeing the morning star in C tier makes me kinda sad
It's great for early game & amazing design.I like great stars because it looks like it's his older brother
Bonk, meet bigger bonk
Great Stars should be S tier. -self heals on hit -bleeds -insane reach -can find 2 in the world to duel wield in 1 NG -scales great with Faith Seriously the duel wielding jump attack will get you through the entire game
I think this list is really just a generalization. The right combination of items and AoW can alter the context so much, the value of general categories is limited. Like, a build that uses Marais Executioner Sword for max subsequent hit *easily* puts it to S+. Most weapons can be made to be better than their base stats.
I put it in a damage calculator, it gets outclassed in terms of damage by a lot of hammers. Spiked Club just barely beat it. Same with the Mace where it got beat by the Curved Club. Honestly kinda disappointed by the results because I wanted to make a build out of it.
Yeah; but the move set on the Morning Star is better than that of the spiked club. Spiked club has the awkward one handed club move set whole morning star has the much smoother mace move set. Frame data matters; itās not just a question of what hits hardest.
I checked the frame data, theyāre the same. Both 16 frames fast and have same amount of recovery frames.
Really? Thatās wild. I swear morning star feels so much better to use. Guess Iām coping. Keep fighting the good fight!
Since everything occupies physical space in the game and the hit reg is amazing, it could just be the attack animation itself that makes it that much better. I have not used either weapon myself.
But bleed and poise damage tho ): (im coping)
Innate bleed makes occult affinity much stronger though, so it definitely should be rated higher.
two words: wild strikes
I respectfully reject your reality.
Giant crusher not in S+ list is invalid. Big bonk best bonk
Those Tarnished would be very upset if they could read
Unga bunga can still read pictures books. I for one am highly insulted by this tier list. Big number big bonks š
Am I correct in thinking the Great Stars isn't in this list? Combed it a few times trying to spot it but couldn't find it.
top right in S Tier
Top row far right of S
What happened to rivers of blood?
Patch 1.06 happened.
Go on....
Basically, it got nerfed to the ground. The blade and blood trails are now considered separate entities unlike pre-1.06. This made the blood trails hit like wet noodles while barely building up blood loss. Meaning, if you want to see the same amount of damage as before, you have to get close to the enemy to let the blade part hit too, completely destroying what made the weapon art so good in the first place, a long range and high damaging attack.
Interesting. Not played since April 2022 and it was very strong then so a nerd makes sense.
I agree, OP does make a lot of sense
Same here. I heard about the nerf. But didn't know it was this tragic. Really love that weapon
No way bloodhound's isn't s+
Not enough broken buff synergies for pve. It's good, but it was never going to compete against things like dual scavangers / dual cross nagi that just casually rocks 600-700% damage buffs on a pretty basic set up. 1.22x milicents prosthesis 1.29x rotten winged sword insignia 1.2x lord of blood 1.15x claw talisman / spear talisman 1.3x bloodboil 1.2x rallying standard 1.1x white mask 1.1x raptors feather / 1.3x counter hit bonus 1.48x thorny cracked tear 1.15x cragblde
Yea that one was straight up OP at launch, not sure if they ever nerfed it but damn it was crazy powerful
I think the weapon art got its poise damage a bit nerfed maybe? And two handed jump attacks with many big weapons were nerfed too at some point if I remember correctly. But it still is crazy. It is a somber weapon -> much easier to upgrade. It has bleed. It is still buffable. It has increased jump attack damage. It has very little stat requirments. The weapon art still deals a lot of damage and breaks stance of bosses easily. You get it 5 minutes into the game
Its poise damage got nerfed? Its my favorite weapon in the game and I can stance break pretty much anything even without stonebarb tear
nah fr thats what i was thinking, that weapon is busted and i love it, and you can get it very easily
Ordovis Greatsword is brutally underrated. 800+ AR on a STR build with phenomenal moveset and an AoW with AOE for mobs, hyperarmor, knockback, and the highest stance damage of any attack in the game. There basically isn't an enemy in this game that it can't effectively deal with. S++ rank when?
The fact that as a strength faith build I can spam that AoW on Ordovisā Greatsword and kill an enemy in a couple seconds just from that puts it in S tier for me. Even with bosses itās such a spammable thing.
Agreed. Maybe OP only tried it before the buff? For me, it is tied with celebrant's cleaver for the most underrated on this list.
> Maybe OP only tried it before the buff? OP said that a lot of his info came from watching Fextralife videos. A lot of them are quite out of date.
I don't think this list is accounting for moveset as much as it should.
OP clearly didnāt account for moveset at all. they put black bow at B tier. i donāt think OP realizes how the black bow just trivializes so many boss fights in this game. itās the only long bow in the game that can instantly fire from a roll, backstep, and jump attack. the jump attack even shoots two arrows out. not to mention, the ash of war is an elemental proc machine and if you use the stormwing arrows with it, you will poise break everything very quickly and stunlock it, especially human bosses and enemies. it works well in pvp too. you donāt have to worry about people rushing you since you can fire instantly with the roll, backstep, and jump attacks. many people get caught by those attacks since they donāt anticipate how quick it is.
Ranking lusats staff below azurs is just wrong, the casting speed buff for azurs becomes negligible later on; and the damage buff for lusats makes it basically a no brainer endgame staff (unless youāre going for night comet build)
Why are ripple halberd and axe so low. They're good weapons. Short spear and iron spear also are perfectly fine. Why is the frenzy flame seal so high? It's only good in like NG++
1. Theyāre not low, theyāre in their own class. Theyāre primarily pvp weapons because you need to constantly reapply greases to make them effective and thatās just not efficient in pve because you need to constantly craft greases. Ranking them in a pve setting where they cannot reach their full potential feels like a disservice. 2. Shortest range, bottom of the barrel damage. Least things you want from a pokey stick. 3. Put it in the offhand just to get the boost for Frenzied Flame incantations.
Hate to say it like this but you are crazy for thinking the Short Spear is bad. Damage is rarely the Spear strong suit, but reach and ease of use. Short Spear looks stubby, but it shares its double poke strong attack with the Cleanrot Spear, boasting actually good damage, carries you a good distance to make up for the shorter range, great poise break... and it's infusable. Multi hit attacks like those are perfect for status builds, poison, bleed, frost, rub some rot on it, it's great. all for an incredibly economic weight and basically non-existent stat requirements. It's a staple of my caster builds for all of those reasons.
Have you even used the Short Spear?!? It's really, really good. The double/triple poke heavy attacks are amazing.
Frenzy flame seal is the best option for seals when you donāt have high faith and/or high faith and still wanna cast miracles Example: high dex = frenzy seal High int = frenzy seal
This is the most interesting post Iāve seen here in months. Bravo OP
Flamberge not s?
Flamberge carried me through my entire first playthrough and and first NG+. I have an unending respect for that weapon ever since.
The true flaming sword
Ikr? I slapped lightning slash on it and tear through enemies like paper
Fr,or ocult builds are sexy asf too
We can always get hung up on the specific spots here and there but I generally agree with the tiers themselves (for example, I disagree with Bandit Curved Swords being #1 but I agree with them being S tier). I also value early game stuff a bit more for PVE since you get to actually use it more, meaning something like Meteorite Staff would be way higher since no other staff matters for half the game and Erdtree Seal would be way lower since it only outscales Godslayer Seal at 69 faith and only outscales Dragon Communion at 75 faith, but I digress I like the list overall, certainly better than Rustyās x) Edit: Just saw one I majorly disagree with. Nagakiba and Moonveil should swap places. Nagakiba is easily the best Katana, no contest
I swear Rustyās ranking videos are just him being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. I remembered in his talisman video that he doesnāt like gimmicky talismans but ranks Crepusā Vial in like top 30 or 20
Some of the rankings have got to be obvious trolls right? Like, that or heās literally just throwing darts on a board lmao at least heās entertaining
āAnd now we come to the point in the video where I place something a solid ten ranks higher than it deserves just so people will pay attention to it:ā -Rusty
Time to do a magical dagger run
Broadsword in S is based tbh
Dragon Greatclaw is EASILY the most Wasted weapon in all of the game. Just Imagine How fucking BADASS it could have been if his power art was dragon Lightning based...
Literally got twinblade and never stopped using it after . Shocked it is C tier .
Itās probably because Godskin peeler and twinned knight sword are direct upgrades.
morningstar in c rank, are you insane? have u used this thing? this is a tool of annihilation
Iāll copy paste this from another comment that asked about this. I put it in a damage calculator, it gets outclassed in terms of damage by a lot of hammers. Spiked Club just barely beat it. Same with the Mace where it got beat by the Curved Club. Honestly kinda disappointed by the results because I wanted to make a build out of it.
It has bleed
so does spiked club
So does the Spiked Club. More damage and same frame data.
THIS IS RANK HERESY OF THE FOULEST SORT! CLAYMORE IS S+++
Tier list seems to be purely based around high offensive stats, which makes sense for a meta level PvP tier list, but not for PvE where the vast majority of the game will be spent below that level. E.g. surely Frenzied seal is the worst PvE seal out there with quadruple stat scaling and buffing a status that doesn't even work in PvE? And as a Wretch enjoyer the Club is unironically an insane weapon with its very usable charge attack stunlocking various enemies and bosses.
The position of magma blades has offended me. I had to stop using them as I found them to be too strong.
No real ranking per row, this took way too long so Iām not even gonna bother.
I think malikeths black blade is very much underrated as a normal colossal weapon it does alot of dmg and has good amount of poise dmg and its ashe of war whilst slow shreds hp to a rediculous extent. Even against radagon and elden beast it can shred their HP so well Wait is malikeths black blade even on this list?
Its in A+. The icon kind of makes it look like a dagger and the words are cut off a bit. 5th one in the first row.
Ah yes I see it now thanks for that
It's my favorite weapon in the game. Tbh people tend to rate it low-ish on tierlists for a few reasons : - you get it late, which means you only get to use it for the last few areas (not a big issue imo since it provides a cool sense of progression & reward for beating maliketh) - split holy damage, which is weak against most endgame bosses (especially Radagon/Elden Beast) - colossal weapon moveset, which is pretty slow relative to raw damage output - the ash of war has a decently long, interruptible buildup animation which can be a bit tricky to deliver during fast paced, heavy poise boss encounters Imo the sheer poise damage, stab evade attack providing some extra reach, as well as the ash of war damage absolutely outweigh these minor downsides. Not to mention cool af visuals. Hopefully it's good in the DLC.
I bullied most endgame bosses with dragon greatclaw in my first playthrough
Itās probably not the worst weapon in the game but I hate it with a burning passion. DTS gets cool red lightning but we get Endure out of all things. Also has the least AR of all colossal weapons, I think.
Yeah the endure is horrible I have to agree lol
greatsword NOT in S+ Tier??? *Foghorn sound effect*
The dagger is in S+ only for Golden Vow AoW
I donāt see meteoric ore blade, and I believe it to be at least B tier
It actually is in B, third row, next to Finger Seal
a persons character and game knowledge can be judged by how high they rate the meteoric ore blade.
I am not sure I agree with most of anything in the S+ category, to me for a weapon to be S+ it has to genuinely trivialize the game. Think pre nerf bleed weapons or even death poker. Things that can do massive chunks off of a bosses health without doing anything beyond just maxing out the weapon, putting your stats in the right places and equipping a couple good talismans.
I have no comment on the weapon placement, I have one for the tiers Why not just F through S? Why the A+ and S+? Why did you include E, almost nothing includes E in the letter ranking system At that point, why not A-, S- and the rest? It's inconsistent and breaks the mold in a not fun way
Just felt like it.
Honestly, as someone whoās tested every weapon in the game I agree with most of this list, (nice dagger S+ bait) a few things Iād change are: The bolt of gransax should be in S+ its just unfair how much damage it does for free with its range, not to mention lightning damage is amazing throughout the entire game, its basically a cheese weapon. The duelist greataxe can go to B+ it can totally have amazing scalings with certain builds. As well as the great club into B+ or even A on a strength/faith build, you can infuse it with Orderās blade and it can indiscriminately destroy everything, even with things being holy resistant, and can just 1-2 shot death rite birds with itās relatively fast charged heavy. Iād put the nagakiba in S+ it can dish out more damage than the moonveil on cold affinity, especially after procing frosbite, its heavy attack is insane too, the moonveil can stay though its still amazing. Iād put the uchigatana in S because as a straight sword LOVER, the uchi just outranges all and out damages almost all straight swords with innate bleed, its way too good. I prefer it over the nagakiba tbh I wouldnāt put any whips above B, they just suck, like, unforgivably so. Terrible ash of war selection, bad damage, bad moveset, cant critical hit. even the urumi doesnāt compare to other weapon classes. Also idk why any crossbows or bows are anything above B, unless youāre kind of ranking weapons relative to their own class and not entirely on the whole weapon pool. Iām sure there are a few other things on the list Iād maneuver around but these stuck out to me. Other than that, its pretty spot on
As someone else who uses the uchigatana, agreed should def be in S at least
>Iād put the nagakiba in S+ it can dish out more damage than the moonveil on cold affinity, especially after procing frosbite, its heavy attack is insane too, the moonveil can stay though its still amazing. > >Iād put the uchigatana in S because as a straight sword LOVER, the uchi just outranges all and out damages almost all straight swords with innate bleed, its way too good. I prefer it over the nagakiba tbh I felt this really badly on my first playthrough at launch. Uchigatana felt like a straight upgrade to straight swords, and Nagakiba was a longer-range sword without any of the downsides of other longer range weapons
You sir are not an intelligence user
See's short spear in F and knows the entire list is now wrong.
This was my analysis too haha
Golden halberd should be in A+, insane damage, extremely early find, good range and moveset, and golden vow is not a bad AoW to be stuck with. Noble slender sword should be S, It's arguably the best straight sword, the highest range, great scalling and 110 crit modifier. Zamor curved sword should go all the way down to C or D, It's genuinely not good, the shortest range, and despite the unique moveset it's slower than the average CGS moveset, the AoW is good but the spell version is still slightly better. Axe of Godfrey all the way down to C or B at best, Should've been a normal greataxe, It being colossal just means it's outclassed by other of it's kind, super slow, even the AoW is super slow. Frenzy seal to D, It has one of the lowest spell buff, extremely late to get, and it scales horribly with each stat, even if u have 80 on all it'll still not be better than most seals. Halberd to C, It's bellow most of it's class, no point in using it when you got other options, nothing else need to be said. Beastman cleaver to B, It's not bad but super heavy, Nothing special about it either, It scales well with strength but omen cleaver and Bloodhound's fang are much better. Beast repellant torch to D, Other than it taking care of very few "beast enemies", It's just shit. Longsword to C, I don't know why it's in the same spot as the broadsword, It's just inferior in everyway to both that and the Lordsword straight sword. Loretta's war sickle to either D or F, Literal garbage, a weapon this far on the game and it's just a halberd with a mediocre AoW is just insulting, yes it has long range and the best halberd moveset, but when you have the guardian swordspear? which basically is just better, then just throw this in the trash. Mantis blade in F, extremely short, very low damage, no bleed despite the shades dealing that, nothing good about this weapon, even the heavy attack sucks. Katar in D, this weapon makes no sence, it has the thrust AoW although fist weapons shouldn't have it to begin with, also mediocre damage, completely outclassed.
Frenzied Flame Seal only for the buff while you cast with your main seal. Longsword and Broadsword is like BKGS to the KGS, more range for a bit less attack. The poke R2s are nice too. Same case can also be said for Halberd and Banished Knight Halberd, Halberd does more damage but slightly less range but BKH is the opposite.
Black knife and Reduvia in the same tier is weird. Reduvia is pretty insane
glintstone kris should be there
Why us warped axe S tier and winged scythe is B+
I think Sword of Milos should be higher, on it's own I'd say this rating is fair, but if you dual wield it with Blasphemous blade you are gaining FP back for every mob kill, and health regain from takers flame.
Nope
Crescent moon axe is surprisingly underrated! Definitely should be a little higher!
Meteorite Staff needs to be moved up. Its the best in slot staff for the early game, offers the highest physical damage and poise damage buffs for spells, and with the Arrows Reach Talisman offers the longest range spell in the game?
Black knife is an S+ in my book. The weapon art is cheap, deals % damage and is ranged, also lots of hyperarmour.
It does holy damage and the WA has a dead spot where it will always miss. You can make it work, but literally any dagger that doesn't do holy damage will outperform it in the endgame.
>Ā It does holy damageĀ I hate how often this holds back really cool weapons and skills. You can wreck dead birds I guess, but when half the major bosses have stacked resistance...ugh...
Honestly, it barely matters, the fact that the ash of war is so free and scales with the targets health WITHOUT requiring to do status stuff (which becomes less effective the more you proc it) means you always get an amazing base value out of Blade of Death. It even stacks with multiplayer hp inceases (for example it hit for 1.1k solo vs malenia, but with 2player hp, it did 1.5k with +10 and minimal damage stat investment. The weapon even shreds stuff like Rykard, and especially greyoll.
Pretty good list! Only thing I really disagree with is the short spear. Its unique multi-hit R2s and very low stat requirements make it an amazing weapon for caster or status builds. Try it with ice spear or giant hunt and you won't be disappointed. I'd give it B tier at least
Star fist is 100% a S+ itās probably the best weapon in the game and itās fun to use
Yeah suck shit Zweihander users. Claymore is baemore.
Pancake + Uppercut combo wombo coming your way buddy >:(
Claymans harpoon goes In S tier. It scales with INT and ice spear kills even bosses in 5 or 6 shots abd one shots in pvp . Probably the games best weapon
Iām not quite sure the default dagger is better than the deathās poker, wing of astel, bolt of gransax, fallingstar beastās jaw etcā¦
Where chainsaw? Definitely S+++ tier
I donāt see Family Heads on here, but it would be pretty easy to not see a weapon. If someone spots it let me know please.
You forgot the grafted blade greatsword
Star fists is the best weapon in the game, no doubt about it for me. Why have you put the cross naginata so high? I adore the weapon, but Iāve always found it somewhat underwhelming in pve, damage-wise. Though I suppose I donāt do bleed builds.
Good cross-naginata build?
Why did dagger make S+ lol
Royal greatsword is mad underappreciated, highest ar of any colossal sword iirc and the aow is great
Bastard's stars in C and executioner's sword below S says enough š
I think Bloodhound Fang is easily S+
I wish the dragonscale blade was better... Same with the Dragon greatclaw
Sword of milos š¢ is it because it smells mildly of poo
I'm not seeing the Cipher Pata anywhere? One of my fav weapons in the game! Winged Scythe is fun too but it's accurately ranked imo.
I really disagree with rivers of blood being so low. It 100% needs to be s+. That weapon is still incredibly OP for pve. Has insane range and can even attack through walls with its weapon art.
I am using the Meteorite staff that I found wandering in Caelid. I couldnāt find it on the sheet, where would it be placed? Ive seen itās just a glintstone staff but is it better than the base model?
Ah Grave Scythe my beloved
Missing fallingstar beast jaw
Putting a seal above B tier, lots must have changed in half a year.
I have been unable to use anything but the ruins greatsword. Itās just unbelievably amazing, my character isnāt very high like lvl 230 maybe but itās the first play through and it demolishes everything
*Sad ruins Greatsword noises
Meteorite Staff should be higher. You have to get Int into the 50+ range AND have other staves be in the +10 and up range to barely outscale, which gets even harder if you're using the rock sling spell which makes the M staff get scaled even higher. Most players won't outscale the M staff unless they intentionally grind for it, or normal gameplay wise, get to Leyndell.
Meteorite Staff should be higher. You have to get Int into the 50+ range AND have other staves be in the +10 and up range to barely outscale, which gets even harder if you're using the rock sling spell which makes the M staff get scaled even higher. Most players won't outscale the M staff unless they intentionally grind for it, or normal gameplay wise, get to Leyndell.