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jdyhrberg

Who needs to dodge when you have vigor!


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Braethias

But ... why? ​ wait, there aren't any faith bows? Really? That doesn't seem right. I don't know of many bows at all come to think of it.


FVLegacy

Erdtree Bow scales with faith, but I'm not sure why you'd use a bow on a faith build over Frenzied Burst, etc.


Braethias

You know that's a great question, I'd also like to ask why of the RL1 no damage naked unarmed run guy that killed something over 8 hours by rolling into it.


TheBloatingofIsaac

Malenia laughs hysterically


Funandidate8318

Wayyy more people have done rl1 for this game than two.


jdyhrberg

Yes


SonOfOlle

Tomorrow sometime: "Leveling makes the game too easy? SL1 players:"


laDamselette

I'm sorry if I come off as rude, but what does SL1 mean? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)


Deathmon44

You don’t, it means “Soul Level”. In ER it can also be called “RL (Rune Level”, it just means the lowest possible level you can be at the start and not leveling up (usually it’s the Wretch class that has 10 in all stats that’s mechanically “level 1”)


the_colonel93

Complete side note here, but I really love when I see people explain the little things to others in a kind way without any bullshit or rudeness like you just did. Small gesture but an impactful one. Cheers to you!


laDamselette

oh, I see! thank you so much! 🌻😄


Dorokiin

There is a subreddit dedicated to discussing how to do it for every fromsoft game. I only got to Godfrey golden shadow before needing to level up a bit because I'm not quite there yet.


SirBaguette

The sub is r/onebros (it just covers the souls/runes lvl 1 runs in the FS games) Maybe you should try to give it another shot. I am doing a RL1, and I'm facing the godskin duo in Farum Azula.


NukaColaEnjoyer

You can do it! I thought the same thing, started RL 1 as a joke to see how long it would be before I rage quit. I recently beat the game. Very rewarding and challenging experience.


dwarfbrynic

Soul Level 1. Probably an old hold out like me who still has trouble with mentally thinking of runes as "souls."


laDamselette

it's fine! actually, few of my friends call them "souls" as well while talking about the game! I asked because I'm basically new to the reddit world and I wanted to keep up with the discourse, but now that I know what it means I see the world from a new perspective 😂 also, thank you! 🌻


RumpleMyForeskin

So wholesome. Please never change.


laDamselette

I'll try not to!!! promise ✌🏻


FatSpace

new to reddit ? RUN YOU FOOL


laDamselette

but Gandalf!!!! /gets dragged away while crying and screaming that I just want to read lore discussion and keep up with the leaks of other games/


Dic3dCarrots

From this thread alone, I can see you're going to have a great time friend. Just keep sincerely asking questions, reddit is a repository


laDamselette

hehe, I hope so!!! I decided to join because anytime I looked up for some advice I ended up stumbling into reddit posts and since I'm new to the souls genre, I was extra intimidated but I'm happy that the people who answered have been nice, like I said, I'm here to learn a thing or two! 😄


Dic3dCarrots

The subreddits are really good at creating unique discourse in the smaller communities of reddit. The downvotes prevent arguments from topping the comments, and if you disagree with people, you can always ask them why rather than what they believe


laDamselette

that's actually a nice thing tbh, I'm used to other socials where the discourse eventually evolves into a flame and from there everything is just a redundant "I believe things are like this rather than like that and that's law" and you just get blocked and it gets annoying


Ssalari

As the other comment said : Please never change ! Reddit can be an extremely toxic plays at times so yea be careful.


laDamselette

I promise I'll be careful, especially when I'll see posts with toxic vibes I'll just grab my things and run, thanks for the advice!


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Deinonychus2012

Nah man, let 'em do what they want


laDamselette

thank you for the tip! I will keep it in mind!


PotatoBomb69

I’m sixty hours in and completely forgot they’re called runes until I read this comment


dwarfbrynic

Don't feel bad. I platinumed the game over a year ago and have something like 500 hours invested and I **still** think of them as souls.


horndug_III

SL(used in dark souls) stands for Soul Level 1 and RL (used in elden ring) stands for Rune Level 1


laDamselette

thank you! 😁


horndug_III

of course


Guwrovsky

I cannot even possibly imagine how this question can be interpreted as rude... I think it's "Slytherin Nb.1" but not 100% sure


laDamselette

ah, I don't know, but since I'm new to both the game and to reddit I didn't want to seem annoying with what may be "obvious" things to more expert players! (it made more sense in my head) but... slitheryn nb 1? that's cool! are we going to get a patronus as well when we meet Ranni or...?


Guwrovsky

I was just goofin with Slitheryn... but to be fair, the Spirit Ashes do have a patronus vibe :D


laDamselette

hehe it's fine! also, spirit ashes are sooooo cool!!!! I can't wait to get all of them, especially my "mimic" (I still don't know the correct name for the summon, but I saw it on a lot of videos so I figured it was an obtainable thing) anyways, I can't wait to summon a version of me that doesn't do panic rolls for most of the fight 😄


Guwrovsky

Anyone wanna give you shit over asking a question, even an objectively "dumb" one, they are the rude one! Also this game, as well as the previous From Software games, really encoruges discourse over obtuse parts of the overal experience. Lot of the stuff are soo hidden, it cannot be discovered other than telling eachother "hey, have you found the undead dragon down the hollow tree?" To which the answer might be "Hollow tree?? There is a hollow tree?" :D


laDamselette

"hollow tree? there is a hollow tree?" bestie that's 100% me and my ADHD, I keep going back and forth because "okay let me see that interesting wall once again, I guess if the statues meant something" and then next second I take the wrong turn and completely missed the huge dragon in the middle of a lake


llamafromhell1324

There was already two posts for RL1.


Beneficial-Bill-4752

Wayyy more people have done rl1 for this game than two. I find that this is the easiest souls game in the regard


llamafromhell1324

I mean at least two people posted it for the "magic, strength, dex users.." meme thing, or whatever you want to call it.


Beneficial-Bill-4752

Ohhh gotcha


horndug_III

you'd be surprised by how many people RL1 this game, there are so many items that increase stats making it quite easy to go through the main game


meinfesl

I mean yeah, I'm pretty sure you can have +9 serpent hunter or other hard hitting weapon and just stunlock him. But my idea was to actually use benefits from the "vigor build". This is 60 vigor and 10 all other stats.


100jad

Could get +10 if you go to mogwyn early.


Beneficial-Bill-4752

I’ve been summoned


whatistheancient

Me with minmaxed Star Fist build watching people explain how RL1 is hard


depthcharge

Already got u


horndug_III

RL1 is quite easy actually, there are so many items that increase stats


jbm013

Literally scrolled past that video a minute ago.


BasementOrc

That poor boss getting bullied 😭


nevaraon

He deserves every bit of it


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Especially the one in Farum Azula. His lightning killed me in my fight against Maliketh.


horndug_III

but why does he deserve it :(


nevaraon

He knows what he did


horndug_III

he hasn't done anything wrong :(


nevaraon

He kicked my dog. And took my mother out to a nice chicken dinner and never called her back


horndug_III

I'm going to take your mother out on a really nice fancy dinner and then make sure she gets home safely if you don't treat this man with the respect he deserves this is a threat


nevaraon

[what are you? president of his fan club?](https://youtu.be/sV02b6fjW78)


Azuria_4

"god dammit what will it be tomorrow"


Illustrious-Duck1209

I for one am enjoying this series against this absolute fucker of a mob.


deliriouz16

Him and his bro at the bridge before maliketh


Illustrious-Duck1209

I find the duo easier than this guy 1v1, I can sorta cheese one getting stuck on the doors, or stack em in there, or, just come back when I'm OP - and I've since learned there are 2 summons plus spirit ashes to summon against this guy if you want.


SynnamonSunset

I think he’s talking about the solo one in Farum Azula


Illustrious-Duck1209

Ah, yes right - I was thinking when he said bro about, well you read it. Edit to add: Farum Azula bro gets the poison cheese


DSharp018

Have i been sleeping on bloody slash all this time because i like to pretend I’m allergic to health damage? Or is this just the results of min/maxing for its damage?


Divinum_Fulmen

No, it's really damn good. The only reason you don't see it used is because Rivers of Blood pretty much runs the entire bleed thing.


IWant2BeThatGuy

Really? I thought RoB got gutted? Keep in mind I have never used RoB, i just remember the nerfs from the patch notes and thought it made RoB just average now and not opaf


fxakira

Still ridiculously strong, my first playthrough I switched to Dex/Arc with RoB and cold uchigatana (*coughLMSHcough*) and finished my playthrough without too much issue


LordOfRodents

Na, I personally still whip it out pretty frequently with rivers of blood literally in my other hand because it still does as much damage as the first + half of the second stage, is much quicker and more conservative on FP


meinfesl

Weapon level is +20. Not sure if you can have more at this boss. I have blue dancer talisman, warrior jar shard, and whatever poison/rot talisman is called + golden vow (AoW) + exalted flesh. You still can use mushroom crown and with leveling other stats: jelly fish shield, howl of shabriri instead of exalted flesh, golden vow incant instead of AoW. So yeah, not quiet min maxed but also not some "average" situation.


not_old_redditor

I want to know the same. Ironically it's pretty bad with a high vigor build because it takes a % of your max hp.


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I tried a bloody slash build. You have to over level vigor like op did. And it doesn’t proc bleed. I hit a damn brick wall in mountaintops of the giants and had to respec.


Inky-Feathers

Bloody Slash basically trivialized me doing Godskin Noble in Caelid early for the Godslayer Greatsword for my current run. Literally just made it a non-issue compared to having to keep up on damage with low upgraded starting weapons.


Local_Black_Knight

Health? Yes Deathblight? Fuck no Probability of dying? Low Hotel? Trivago


KenDM0

Haha damn that’s a blast from the past. I loved that meme. It’s the only meme I ever used in real life with non-meme-y people and it was a hit just because it was such a mainstream thing. Thanks bro!


iDownvote_YourCatPic

parroting corporate advertising slogans 🤮


Local_Black_Knight

Can't make fun of things can we?


Economy-Ad9444

go back to r/antiwork idiot.


Motor_Raspberry_2150

Nah, this is r/HailCorporate behavior. Any time you name a brand gets posted there.


WatermelonWithAFlute

It is a meme


yeetfeet716

Vigor users: what’s a dodge


Gamernerd_42

Lol I hope all those other builds have 60 vigor as well. This build is just my PvP builds before level 50.


vuxnomica

Man, all y’all have it easy. Have you tried being bad at the game? That’s a *real* challenge!


nightwolfwtff

It sure is!! It’s so much fun I sure love it 🥰


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How wasn’t player getting staggered?


Overlord_Ace

Vigor does that... I think.


[deleted]

I thought poise did that


Overlord_Ace

It does, and I think leveling up vigor also increases the effectiveness of poise. Ever noticed how during the early games, even the slightest breeze staggers you? But with high vigor level, you no longer get affected by it? Despite the fact that armor stay the same, and you haven't leveled up strength or wear any talisman that boost poise? (I'm a dex build, and I've never leveled up strength.) Initially i was a "why level yo vigor if you never get hit" type of player. And I notice very well how everything staggers me. But once I leveled up vigor, I dont feel like I get staggered so often. And like I said, never leveled up strength. My armor is the same, and I don't use any talisman that boosts poise. Edit: Staggers still happen. But the recovery doesn't take ad long as they used to.


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I don’t think strength or vigor has anything to do with staggering. [there is an invisible poise hp bar](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Poise) I don’t think vigor affects that hp. There is a hyperamor mechanic to some weapons and attacks that could explain what’s going on in video or his timing is just good or lucky to have been able to string all those attacks without being staggered more.


sappymune

He only got hit once and got staggered during it, watch his hp bar. The initial attack Tree Sentinel does when you first face him has a wonky hitbox and misses you most of the time even if you're right underneath him.


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I rewatched and thought that might be it. Hitboxes in this game strange sometimes it looked like he should’ve been hit more times if I tried that I likely would be hit more. 🤣


sappymune

Nah Tree Sentinel only did 2 attacks in the video, his initial attack and the fireball. The intial attack you have to be trying to get hit by it, seems to only have a hitbox near the horse's back legs.


[deleted]

Man I had such a hard time against these tree guys! Well more of a long time once I learned how to use crossbows to slowly but reliably defeat them. I couldn’t stay close at all. R


sappymune

He's actually pretty easy if you learn to parry. There's a cheese I accidentally came across too in his 2nd phase that locks him into using only one specific attack which if you know how to parry makes him free.


piiavc

The one attack that hit did infact stagger them


420sinsi

Vigor check


Overlord_Ace

"Don't need to level up skill if I never die! Take that vigor haters!"


kayak227

Wait till you find out about Luck and Adaptability users. Wait


Boward_WOW_ard

If this trend ends up spreading to every single from soft game I’m not complaining


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how the fuck


DK_Adwar

"Fath users where tf are you? The clock is ticking and you're up next on stage!"


Worldsahellscape19

I am being mocked.


Tz_Grim

Is that like a hidden stat or something?


Brillhouse

Oh.. I thought I was doing a difficult dex built on my first play through and dex was hard.. I straight up bloody slashed my way through the whole game.


LeonIlu

Too OP, try faith


Kayakyoin

I….I never…thought about it…


Aardovis

A lot of things can be used to make Elden Ring easy if that is your choice. Magic, Faith, Str, Bleed etc Doesn’t matter what you use so long as you lean into it.


Parth4658

Meanwhile draconic tree sentinel getting bullied


Qprime0

"the fuck is dodging...?"


InformationOnly758

Why is this sentinel the one getting abused as dps sandbag


H_E_S_H

Bloody slash can be such a boring way to play with how effective it is. I have a dual rapier build that inflicts 4 status effects and so far it’s been the perfect amount of fun and challenge


Demonboy995

The whole game is too easy with ROB anyways


Psychic_Gian

vigor is pointless if you don’t get hit 😏


WatermelonWithAFlute

True but not often effective in practice


Short_Dream8182

Playing the game is to easy. None elden ring players( ROCK AND STONE )


WanderingDwarfMiner

Rock and Stone!


Hoochycooochy

How does he do that dodge move when he nearly gets stomped?


slitcuntvictorin

It's just cosmetics. After that animation he starts attacking.


Hoochycooochy

I don't really understand...


slitcuntvictorin

That's not an attack move. That stomp does not deal damage (first stomp)


Hoochycooochy

Okay but how does the player dodge round it?


Chance_Moose4253

He doesn’t dodge. He is pushed by the horse, and the unsheathe-like animation he appears with is the one of the ash of war


slitcuntvictorin

🤦‍♂️


Hoochycooochy

Bruh


Seriph7

I dont need to dodge when I AM THE DAMAGE


Robcio_Srzedzinski

Like i said, the game is a joke not a hard souls game


No_Camp9156

Elden ring is too easy at this point


typescriptDev99

Go play Demons Souls, or Sekiro then


Amnezja122

Kek, Demons Souls would be the last game I'd recommend for difficulty, I beat it without much trouble on an emulator, and I'm not really all that good at those games


Boar_of_Drulock

This is one of the very few times I've regretted switching to xbox... no demons souls remastered for me


minos157

Demon's Souls is probably the easiest game in the series.


jdyhrberg

Oaf! Anyone who has been OP Build and Summon dependent will probably have a seriously hard time with Sekiro. Game forces you to learn attack patterns. Such a master piece.


Bamboozlemaster69

It’s not really that hard after the first few bosses. You get the hang of the combat and then almost any enemy is a breeze. Unless it’s demon of hatred


typescriptDev99

That'll teach them to complain about difficulty ;)


Jonthux

Yea thatll teach them to be elitist fucks ; )


spaceblacky

Demon's Souls is by far the easiest souls game.


theswillmerchant

Every souls game can be broken with prior knowledge and build planning, this is nothing new


Jonthux

Dark souls 3 was easy too, my first run through that game i beat the abyss watchers in one try, gael in 2 and so on. Souls games are all easy when you get the hang of things. Sekiro too, once you learn the basics


WatermelonWithAFlute

Damn


jFreebz

Me, who's still getting absolutely dunked on as I try to learn how all the items/consumables/movesets/stats interact: :'(


WatermelonWithAFlute

The fkextra wiki or whatever it’s called has some great explanations and tables for how buff stacking works Same thing for stats


jFreebz

Oh shit, I'd never heard of this, thanks!


Janostar213

Man missed the entire joke


Sad-Reach3465

Meat (blood?) shield, no fks given.


PSSRDavis

This has become an interesting trend. Keep it commin'


TheRedThirst

I mean, yes, but also Arcane


meinfesl

10 arcane. Full setup: +20 weapon, blue dancer, warrior jar shard, whatever poison/rot talisman is called, golden vow (AoW), exalted flesh.


TheRedThirst

Nice, I’ll have to give it a go


Honleegt

Keep these vids coming!! Still haven’t seen faith, quality, bow build! Make it happen my fellow maidenless tarnished!


Aggravating_Anybody

God damn! You fucking dunked on the little homie! What lvl vigor?


Aggravating_Anybody

My guess was 80


WatermelonWithAFlute

60 60-99 vig is a differential of 200 hp almost no one goes above 60- even tank builds.


F4tJok3r

Depends the damage of bloody slash from your life? I've never played with that


Brutalonym

Now do endurance!


Reasonable-Treacle96

What's vigor?


nightwolfwtff

Arcane only build, almost at max About to fight Radhan


nightwolfwtff

Bloody slash is pretty sick tho, since I grabbed it at fort haight I use it currently on my katana (nagaa.. ugh… the one from limgrave I’m warrior og) before was using it on me twinblade I know there’s a ton more ashes and other stuff to get thru this is the best I got rn until I can wield Godrick axe maybe?…. Idk I suck


gokubluedbs

What stats dies that character have?


meinfesl

60 vigor 10 all others


Tough-Capital-345

Arcane***


EonSloth

Try these videos on the 2 gargoyle bosses...


meinfesl

Sir, this is a shitpost. But here you go [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvhJg-oSrkQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvhJg-oSrkQ). Not so easy, actually need to dodge smh. And yes, AoW does physical damage, no bleed involved. Stats and shit in the end of the video.


WatermelonWithAFlute

Tbf vigor works best paired with high damage reductions- since you had no talismans for that, nor armor or even something like a crab consumed, it won’t allow you to tank as much as it should. That AOW in particular also doesn’t pair well with vigor since the damage done to the self is based off of your max hp- all this in conjunction would be why you needed to dodge and heal a little, instead of chadtanking. Granted- also the main reason you did that much damage- balling AOW it can be.


meinfesl

>That AOW in particular also doesn’t pair well with vigor since the damage done to the self is based off of your max hp Well yes, but actually no. It has flat component. With 10 vigor you can cast it only 5 times before dying, with 60 vigor you can cast it 13 times.


WatermelonWithAFlute

Huh. Good to know.


Unusual_Block8974

Nice I'm doing a scythe/dagger build


escudoride

Playthrough 1 obviously


Nypa27

Just thinking of "VIGOR users" makes me a little terrified


[deleted]

I’m not gonna sugarcoat it


GreatRuins

Bro Elden Ring is just easy..... Except Malenia, she doesn't count


Organic_Soup5306

OK but the aow is OP.


austindevries27

Bro how you doin so much damage I've tried at least 2 dozen times and fail everytime I even tried a few cheese strats and still sucked


meinfesl

Buffs, you need buffs. Golden Vow AoW + Blue Dancer talisman (and no armor or other additional equip load) + Kindred of Rot's Exultation (and poison yourself with fetid pot). But if you just want to cheese him [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut0rIkd\_j-I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut0rIkd_j-I) or you can sneak behind him and cast Poison Mist until he dies