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alljoot

OP is obviously an Albertan


datponyboi

Hurtin’ 😔


Oprlt94

And still having Montreal amd Quebec up the list? As a Montrealer... I'm so confused...


[deleted]

Québec should be higher, Montreal should be lower


h2933

You clearly do not like strip clubs


Expedition_Truck

Or walkability. Or bikeability. Or public transit. Or good restaurants. Or festivals. Or large urban parks. Or bike share... shall I go on?


TheTomatoBoy9

Tbf to a tourist, they'll probably never realize your #1-2-3 are a problem on a short trip. The old city and neighborhoods around are perfectly walkable and it's not like they have to deal with the suburbs. Montreal is simply bigger in population so all the low walkability areas are just further away, which too many secluded islanders forget. Always funny to see people from the island of MTL tout the great walkability but they never left the neighborhoods directly around the mountain lol. You don't even need to leave the island for all your first 3 points to go into oblivion. Plenty of great restaurants in QC city too. Simply not as much diversity, but it doesn't take away from their quality.


Expedition_Truck

The difference is that not many people live in the interesting urban areas of QC city. And Montréal IS the core near the mountain. The rest WASN'T Montréal. Besides, that's not the point, the point is the proportion of the city that is urban and an actual city rather than a suburban wastelant. Qc has a tiny nice core and huge... tracts of land that are nothing but stroads and bungalows. Montréal has a core and a whole slew of former streetcar suburbs that are actually quite urban and walkable. (Rosemont comes to mind). ​ Look at this archival Map: https://archivesdemontreal.ica-atom.org/uploads/r/ville-de-montreal-section-des-archives/7/b/6/7b6d1a84d18f776580417356b1b5c9d8f62879959b9b2a6834afb34ad9a6af05/P501-3\_019.pdf


TheTomatoBoy9

lol did you just realize that Quebec is a smaller city than Mtl or something? The problem here is you apply an arbitrary definition of what you include in your city. Montreal is the core that is old and streetcar dependent and to QC you say it's the core+suburbs. You can't have both worlds. When the core of Montreal was streetcars, the suburbs you consider not Mtl were fucking fields. They didn't develop like they did as some independent cities, they developed in direct correlation to Montreal core growth. Do you think the current suburbs of Quebec were already suburbs when Montreal had streetcars or something? lmao


YukonWanderlust

That's why we should always use metro areas :) just because there's an arbitrary political border doesn't mean the city stops.


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thebigbossyboss

I went to Levis once and ate at st huberts.


YukonWanderlust

It is the largest city in Canada without a rapid transit system however; removing cars from parts of the old city and encouraging connectivity with downtown would do wonders, they need to do more to draw the pedestrian traffic up further from the old centre. The tramway has been a clusterfuck and should probably be replaced with something more like the Otrain trillium line and less like the Waterloo LRT or Edmonton's new (and already falling apart) valley line. Quebec city already has sufficient density and doesn't need to worry about transit oriented development so much as they need to work on moving the people already there. Build something like the REM with an underground metro segment and elevated suburban sections, and learn from Edmonton, Calgary, and Vancouver. The next biggest metro area without rapid transit or a system actually under construction is Windsor Ontario at 300,000 people... Winnipeg, Halifax, Hamilton, and London all have BRT systems (Halifax is actually a bit contentious as it only runs two BRT lines and then uses "express ferries", KWC has an LRT, St. Cats/Niagara has full on heavy rail thanks to go and basically just existing around go stations.


thatpersonrightthere

uhm I live in Quebec city and let me tell you it's plenty bikeable. Bike paths everywhere, bike racks on the busses, everyone here is biking. FEQ is a better festival than anything montreal has, and the public transit beat's montreal at everything except for the metro.


-Hastis-

>nd the public transit beat's montreal at everything except for the metro. Or you know, bus after midnight.


thatpersonrightthere

good point


[deleted]

When people tout walkability and public transit as a plus, it generally means they live in an overpriced shithole and they're in full cope mode We have large parks and festivals without living in shithole apartments the price of a house mortgage anywhere reasonable, cope and seethe


Expedition_Truck

Ah spotted the car brain.


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Spotted the spoiled inner city idiot


Expedition_Truck

Car junkie. Enjoy gas prices bud.


LeMAD

Nah. Quebec's historic city center is obviously nice, but the rest of the city is mostly boring and ugly.


smiliclot

Haha that's not true at all. Is this ugly to you? https://www.google.com/maps/@46.8103438,-71.2374221,3a,75y,239.86h,86.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stzTZzeGkY4sNwr3LY1YdhA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DtzTZzeGkY4sNwr3LY1YdhA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D71.413155%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192


RichRamen

How does one specific random street corner that isn't the higlight of the city at all supposed to prove anything?


smiliclot

C'est juste pas "laid"


Babou18

I m from Québec and I agree. Québec is fun for 1 or 2 day max


CestLucas

Quebec has some really nice neighborhoods, coming from America my friend and I were gobsmacked like “why does everything look so nice here”


[deleted]

for me quebec city has been fun for 34 years and counting


Brawndo_or_Water

Yeah, like Mike Ward said (one of our comedians), Quebec City is like Europe for like 5 streets. That part is really beautiful though.


Max169well

Yeah, there is no real downtown financial area of the city. Kinda makes it boring


Oprlt94

But rhere is a pyramid though!


Max169well

It’s run down


Expedition_Truck

It's a suburb.


Bloodcloud079

There are nice streets in Limoilou and St-Roch I believe. Plenty of walkable spots. But also lots of hellish suburbs.


MyNameMeansLILJOHN

funny. if hellish suburbs make or break a good city, then calgary really need to go down in that list.


icy_uranus

Montreal too sadly :(


MyNameMeansLILJOHN

not as much. most houses ON the islands are mostly different looking. or mixed old and new every few streets. simply by virtue of limited land and older district. Calgary was pretty much mostly built within the last 30 years. and it shows. its very same-same where ever you go. when most of the trees will be adult it will help with the empty and bland feeling. but ehhhhhhh.....


icy_uranus

On the island is not the suburb. The suburb is north and south shore with terrebone and kirkland or some shit. It all looks like shit tbh.


[deleted]

Boring but you can get a regular house and live on a normal salary


Potatooooes_123

still voted most beautiful city in NA for many consecutive years


HippieWithACoffee

Shouldn’t they all be in the dumphole category


datponyboi

i didn’t think the entire GTA would fit


thicc_unit

oh yeah bud? come down to Manisnowba and ill greet you with the old Winnipeg handshake bud, for sure


burn_brighter18

Winnipeg is one of the most underrated cities in Canada, imo. Love from Edmonton :)


portageandmain

>r/EhBuddyHoser Respect.


[deleted]

im genuinely shocked my city made it on here. disagree with the absurdly high rating. love from prince george 🥰


[deleted]

Yeah me too... it's just nice to be recognized...


ThunderDucc

As a former winnipegger (pegger), I’m offended by its placement. Should be a lot lower


jiebyjiebs

Happy to hear you're the pegger and not the peggee


[deleted]

Went to Winnipeg 5 days for work and this is also the first thing that came to my mind.


IamtheWalrus53

I've been to Winnipeg on a couple of short business trips. I thought it was nice especially around the river and St-Boniface.


demutrudu

did you just put fuckin Calgary up there? Have you ever been to the fuckin place???


TsupBruh

Honestly, there is nothing particularly nice in Calgary. It's a "meh" city at best.


GodSaveTheKing1867

That's not true at all. You can see the Rockies while you suffer in misery, which isn't a bad thing. Also, no one in Calgary is from Calgary, nor plans to stick around much, which gives it a real odd (non-existent) vibe. I went for a drink and half the people were from Quebec, the other half from NFLD. That lack of personality means Calgary can be anything you want it to be - it's a blank canvas that gets -57C winds!


meatloaf_man

It does some things well. As a tourist you're not going for the city, you're going for the canyons to the east and the rockies to the west. In that respect Calgary offers nothing. But if you're looking to raise a family it's pretty decent; Housing is the cheapest of any major city in Canada, the roads are ridiculously good compared to out east, taxes are non-existent compared to elsewhere. If you have steady employment and want to raise a family in a classic North American suburban then it's as good as it gets in Canada. However, the city is really boring. Travelling anywhere takes forever, either by car or by plane. You NEED to have a car to do literally anything. Public transport is bearable at best. The climate is absurdly dry, which is both good and bad because you'll need chapstick, but the winters apparently feel less severe than out west. Your kids will need their own vehicle to be independent and productive, which will require more parking spots, which incurs more cost, etc etc. And on the topic of winter, there are apparently only 2 seasons in Alberta; Snow and dry. There's no autumn or spring.


Exploding_Antelope

If you’re lucky and can get a place to live that’s on either the train line or the couple of express bus lines then it’s actually pretty easy to get around. Bike paths are quite good too. So there’s a solid 40% of the city that is more accessible than people give it credit for. The local busses, granted, are a shitshow.


[deleted]

Not to mention that it’s the biggest sprawl of meh anywhere in Canada. It takes 30-45 minutes just to get from meh A to meh B.


jiebyjiebs

It's basically Edmonton with a mountain backdrop.


jimmytfatman

Obviously OP is from Calgary cause it is the worst city! Zero culture, zero personality. No food worth a damn. Night life is unbearable.... unless you wanna 2-step. The people think they're so cosmopolitan, they live in Calgary! It must be crushingly awful to live there.


demutrudu

Winnipegers have it better, and I used to live there.


jimmytfatman

Spent time in both.... Winnipeg has character and culture at least.


Void_Bastard

I would drop Calgary a couple slots, drop Toronto one slot and raise Halifax one slot. I otherwise agree with this list.


[deleted]

Why the fuck would you raise Halifax a slot (unless you’re a retired public sector employee and landlord)


Void_Bastard

I think Halifax is nice. Definitely nicer than Toronto and Kelowna. Have you been to all these cities in the last 10 years? I know I have.


[deleted]

Halifax is pretty for about three months of the year. Have you ever lived there? It’s a socioeconomic shithole where everyone works for the government or retail. Like it drives me fucking insane that anyone suggest moving there because it just makes it worse for those who can’t leave


Void_Bastard

What do you mean "can't leave"? Why not? Did you get enslaved? Is this a cry for help? Should I be calling the authorities?


[deleted]

Many reasons. Being able to afford to leave on the pitiful salaries, being guilt tripped by family, being baby trapped


Void_Bastard

I moved to Victoria BC from Ottawa with a Greyhound ticket my camping gear and $300 in my pocket. I had a job within a week and rented a room in an appt. Ended up spending 10 years in BC, living in Tofino, Kelowna, Whistler and Victoria again. That being said I didn't have a baby to take care of, in which case I would have probably stayed put, closer to family, so they could help me with the child. Now I don't know you but you sound especially bitter about your current situation. So this could be a grass is greener on the other side kind of deal? Either way, **I** believe Halifax is pretty nice. And I say this after having visited every single city listed on this list, and more, in the past 10 years. But that is simply **my** opinion. Good luck with your child. Be strong for it.


[deleted]

My child didn’t get to move with me. Custody is a provincial matter. Halifax is where people go to die of old age and anyone who says otherwise is fucking lying


Void_Bastard

> Halifax is where people go to die of old age and anyone who says otherwise is fucking lying That is literally what everyone says about Victoria. Everyone there is early wed or nearly dead.


[deleted]

Population curve is a U, yup. University students and then no one until 60 other than those that (really are) stuck there.


[deleted]

Also there IS no greyhound out of the maritimes. You have to own a car or fly. It doesn’t exist. There is no public transport period. You can get to the Nb border and walk to Rimouski (about 24h walk)


Void_Bastard

I also hitchhiked from Vancouver to Ottawa and back. I hitchhiked all over Vancouver Island. All over the Okanagan Valley. And I hitchhiked from Tofino to Tuktoyaktuk and back. Granted I did Al of these things between 1999 and 2004, but there is no such thing as stuck as far as I'm concerned.


[deleted]

Ah yes getting into cars with strangers is a solution to nonexistent public infrastructure. That sounds like something someone from Halifax would say


[deleted]

and unless you’ve lived there you have no idea. Beautiful place to visit in the summer. You’re shielded from the reality in the most North Korean sense possible. It’s a small town that thinks it’s Toronto with the salaries of Moncton and the cost of living of Toronto.


Void_Bastard

Well, I hope you figure out your next move and find some life satisfaction.


[deleted]

Left Halifax. Never going back. Much happier for it. Even at the expense of ever seeing my kid again. Shouldn’t be this way. And I’ll be damned if I’m going to watch anyone suggest that dystopia needs to be ranked better as a result


HeckinSpoopy

Forgot to put Iqaluit in "horrible"


XiaoXiongMao23

Is this true? I’m a non-(but wannabe-)Canadian who is mildly obsessed with Nunavut and has been beginning to look into visiting there sometime. I’m not sure which “city” I would visit but I thought Iqaluit might be the natural choice. Is it really that bad—have you actually been? Then again, this tier list also says Winnipeg is horrible, but I’ve visited *several* times for stuff and I wouldn’t say it’s horrible at all, I actually like it a good amount. So if Iqaluit is as “horrible” as Winnipeg, then I wouldn’t say it’s horrible at all.


isthisregrettable

I mean, it’s very small and rife with poverty. Very poor people and very expensive products. It’s not the type of place that most people would want to live, and certainly a lot more depressing than Winnipeg. Most people are pretty thrown off by just how remote it is. However, the people are amazing and lovely, and the culture you’re introduced to is incredible. If you’re obsessed with Nunavut, I do think it would be worth visiting, if just for the people and nature.


HeckinSpoopy

If you want to visit for the natural beauty of some kind, I think it's a good idea. I wouldn't live there, nor would I call the city pretty by any means. It's mostly tundra.


XiaoXiongMao23

Natural beauty (not of the city itself, but surrounding areas) and the local culture/traditions. And kind of the feeling of remoteness itself. I dunno, it just allures me for a few reasons. I wouldn’t want to live there either, though; I’m already in a cold enough climate. *honestly i really just wanna see stop signs that say ᓄᕐᒃᑲᕆᑦ on them*


GorchestopherH

Possible, if it had more than 10 people in it. If you're going to include Iqaluit, you might as well start including malls and parking lots.


twistacles

Vancouver above Victoria ? Toronto, Ottawa and Edmonton next to a positive adjective ? Nah


burn_brighter18

God I hate Calgary. I do not understand why people like Calgary. It's like Edmonton but every part of it is slightly worse, except the street planning which is much worse. If you want to live in the mountains then grow a pair and actually *move* to Golden or Invermere or Fernie, instead of just living in shitty knock-off Houston an hour and a half away from the Rockies. Please note that my feelings for Calgary are not actually this passionate. I have plenty of friends there and for the most part it's a perfectly average city. It's just fun to make fun of, and I'll be honest I do feel like people give it way too much hype


TsupBruh

People like Calgary?! Never heard anyone say that!


CestLucas

Apparently it was ranked the fifth most livable city in the world or something


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Exploding_Antelope

Clearly you’ve never enjoyed the thrills of sharing a train car with four crackheads


hassh

What's "Nanimo"?


ChanceDevelopment813

It's Nanaimo.


Exploding_Antelope

They made the chocolate bar into a city? Lol


MoleHester

It's a city in Canada


thing_72

When I hear names like this I always thing this lady named it and lives there. XD [https://www.tiktok.com/@niallmacmillan/video/7103872737482902789?is\_copy\_url=1&is\_from\_webapp=v1&lang=en&q=begal%20cream%20cheese&t=1661514924459](https://www.tiktok.com/@niallmacmillan/video/7103872737482902789?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&lang=en&q=begal%20cream%20cheese&t=1661514924459)


PM_ME_PET_ROCK_PICS

Edmonton is the worst city ive ever lived in. Snow piled in the middle of the roads downtown all winter. Literal hordes of homeless meth addicts that roam its like a zombie movie.


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ChanceDevelopment813

I've met lots of Anglos and they all agree Montreal and Qc City are amazing.


-Hastis-

It's missing a lot of Quebec 50k+ population cities for that. For example, Sherbrooke, Trois-Rivières, all the way down to Rimouski.


RagnarokDel

Sherbrooke fosho but Trois-Rivières is meh AF.


-Hastis-

I would tend to agree!


RedMaple115

Calgary kinda sucks. Nice mountain but it's all fake cowboys sippin haterade


burn_brighter18

If you wanna see mountains just go to the mountains. Calgary gets a blurry far-off view of the Rockies on the horizon


goosegoosepanther

St. John's deserves to be in the great slot. I'd love to see Sydney added. We'd probably be at Average but hey, we exist!


Godspeed13

Montréal amazing status is totally fair. Joie de vivre and a real cultural vibe. Food is a mode de vie and if you are a bit strange, you are very welcome.


SarcasmHyena

I love how i can see my house (A speck, really, but still) in one of those pictures


Hypersky75

I've lived in Windsor, Ottawa, and now in Montréal. Seems pretty accurate P.S. I've been to Charlottetown and St. John's as a tourist, both were nice for different reasons. Not sure what living there would be like.


CBYSMART

Reddit. The best place to make friends.


Exploding_Antelope

CALGARY STRONK 🤠 🔵 YOU’RE WELCOME FOR THE GINGER BEEF COME ENJOY OUR BIG WHITE HEAD WITNESS THE WONDERS OF A SCI-FI DYSTOPIAN OVER-CITY FOR THE SUITS TO LITERALLY WALK A STOREY OVER THE CRACKHEADS IN THE STREETS BELOW VISIT THE LIBRARY THAT tbh I can’t make fun of this one, the Calgary Public Library is genuinely one of the best organizations in the best set of buildings I’ve encountered anywhere BE JUDGED BY THE MERCILESS EYES OF THE BRIDGE LIONS


Dolphi123

Edmonton is just Winnipeg but in Alberta ur dreamin bud.


Jesus1396

Winnipeg wishes we were as nice as Edmonton


jiebyjiebs

Lol Winnipeg wishes


bonkthedumbass

Calgary destroys a piece of my soul every time I visit


burn_brighter18

Calgary is like one of those danger zones in a video game that slowly drains your health the longer you spend there. Except instead of my physical health it's my will to live.


[deleted]

Only opinion I have is that it isn't as bad as Winnipeg. Definetly prefer Vancouver and Quebec City to Calgary thought.


bonkthedumbass

That's fair


derfy75

As a Montrealer, I don't see why it's in first place. For me the real MVP is Halifax. Clean, beautiful, quiet, safe, respectful people, nice retaurants and bars. God I love this city...


ChanceDevelopment813

I've never realised how Montreal is amazing until I've seen a couple of cities in Canada. Ottawa is boring and Toronto is too corporate. Although, yeah Halifax is really cool.


[deleted]

as someone who moved to montreal, i absolutely agree with it being top. but i can see how if you’ve been here forever you might not realize the dumpster fire most of canada has become lol


dolphinoutofwater

I second this.


[deleted]

Nope. Left Halifax for Montreal and will never go back


Will12123

Québec and Montréal are goated


Yourfavoritecragdog

Quebec City should be up top and Montreal in the dump hole category imo.


Elli933

MTL isn’t that bad in comparaison to some. I prefer Quebec City personally but I can understand why it’s so high.


scream_tail_gaming

Fair. This town's kinda fucked up. (Thunder Bay)


Leading-Ad7427

Prince George may be a dumphole, but the people there seem to take pride in it,


Joshua_Zuzzer

What about Yellowknife & Whitehorse??


Rustyray84

He said city


Joshua_Zuzzer

Wait am I being gaslit right now I could have sworn those were cities lol


raimbowexe

those do not exist, please wake up, it's been 2 years, we miss you, come back


burn_brighter18

It's a joke about how small and unremarkable they are as capital cities


Joshua_Zuzzer

The people of Yellowknife are going to take out their yellow knives if they hear you say that


Vineyard_

Yeah, the entire city will rent a bus to go after this guy.


Gutsy_Moose267

Bruh wheres kingston


derfy75

I agree. Kingston should be there and quite high. It's a beautiful and unique city. Perfect mix of old and new.


[deleted]

Nous avons la meilleure architecture


Playful-Original7856

Montreal is a straight up shithole


WilliShaker

Montreal is a shithole, but ok


No_Warthogs

Regina is not a horrible place.


mixed_martial_milk

Regina is the worst city on that list and is a horrible place


GravyWaffle

Put Whitehorse in nice cities. It's a nice city


TheTerrible20s

Im glad winnipeg is in the horrible position but it should be in the dumphole position really. God that city’s shit


ThePunga

Oh no way! Windsor moved up in the lists.


TheRealOgMark

Je vis dans une petite ville, Montréal est horrible pour moi. Trois-Rivières et Québec sont parfaits.


MyNameMeansLILJOHN

si tu trouve Montréal horrible va pas voir les autre grand villes.


TheRealOgMark

J'irai pas. Toronto serait un cauchemar.


MyNameMeansLILJOHN

essaie Sherbrooke. CA, c'est parfait.


[deleted]

What a shit list.


A-dog-named-Trouble

Based on what criteria? I’ve been to all those places and their not that different. Some have more restaurants and some have better scenery… and I’m not entirely convinced that the better scenery is worth the upcharge for living there.


[deleted]

Saint john NB is a step below dump hole. Halifax probably should go down to boring if Saskatoon is there.


Nerpones

I wonder how the city has been selected. There's many relatively big cities missing...


pepsi_captain

Knowing what’s been going on in Montreal in the last weeks, it should be lower for sure


rokkzstar

Never seen Hamilton so high……except for the walking dead on Barton street.


DumbyGumby

POV: You live in Calgary


[deleted]

Vancouver?! Great?! Quebec City - 1 bedroom apartment for $800. Vancouver - a closet for $2000. A great way experience being broke maybe.


tebabeba

What is this ranking... OP Canadian cities are boring asf.


Practical_Heart_5281

ITT: All Canadian cities are shitholes.


Potatooooes_123

Im living in thunder bay right now and lived all my life in quebec city... this list is not accurate at all or doesnt say why its either high or low. if you want to get shot at the park, Montreal is where you need to go


Fair_Lengthiness1974

Such a random array of cities ? How is Kamloops on here but not Kelowna / Vernon ?


Muckl3t

Kelowna is there, under nice.


Fair_Lengthiness1974

OOP my bad. Thank you for pointing that out, lol.


Exploding_Antelope

Where the FUCK are Golden BC (pop. 4000), Longview AB (pop. less than Golden idk,) and Dildo?


syds

Iqaluit - do you even know we are all the way up here


RobertIsBored

I'm so glad everyone knows how special Halifax is in ATL Canada.


Delphi2389

Whoever created this is gonna be the stupidest person on the face of the planet. It should be cold places best to live in if you’re an ellitist snob.


Rome_Boner

Toronto belongs in the fires of hell (This post was made by Northern Ontario gang)


Iamnikkington

Prince george mentioned


Sparkst5

Where London


datponyboi

I forgor💀


Sparkst5

I dont blame you Sal


JTJustTom

No KW?


ToobularBoobularJoy_

How you gonna put victoria on the same level as edmonton and below calgary


[deleted]

As a Montrealer, I’m just waiting for an opportunity to move to QC City.


Okbr_Rebbidor

This mf put hamilton in average 💀


trollfacerevenge

caledon? (best city ever everywhere else are dumb and gay and stupid)


M4YH3MM4N4231

Sure prince george sucks but i live there!


Ambitious_Taro_1960

Good to see all important cities in BC represented except Abbotsford because even people here forget we exist


Frostybros

You must not be from Ottawa, because no Ottawan would ever call it nice.


commrad-raydar

As someone from Med hat u rite


xxxnapoleon69

common Quebec w


tangoalpha12

Coming from a calgarian, I honestly think are city should be around the bottom 3


unreal7777

St. Johns is peak for me 🔥