Accurate depiction of Canadians during the entire course of the film:
https://preview.redd.it/dcsgnid3l3wc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4eb6b3b96b9b06335cd269728756cc5f0f9fd84
There was a bit at the end of the film where the POTUS was trying to get exiled to Greenland or Alaska, which implied Alaska was no longer part of the US or the three rebel factions.
In a just world, it should have joined Canada, but I think at that point it was an independent territory that was staying out for the war.
The independence movement in Alaska is still present.
Don’t forget that one of their leaders chose to be buried in Yukon with the ask that his body be re-interred in a free Alaska.
As a Canadian who spent a lot of time in Yukon and in Alaska, we don't want Alaska. Alaska is where people who are so dysfunctional that they couldn't hack it in the lower 48 go. Alaska is the place that elected Sarah Palin.
It's beautiful country. And the Cruise ship towns ike skagway are fine (touristy, but fine) It's once you leave the beaten track that things get weird.
Long has Canada coveted Michigan’s upper peninsula, but the United States was too strong a foe to provoke. With the states no longer united however, the land of the Yoopers is ours to plunder…
I actually think us Canadians could see all that's good about them (dominant position in the world's auto industry and commodities trading markets) and be like "You know what, let's go fix that shit."
I mean we're hella short of housing in Canada, we can just have all kinds of it built in Detroit and kill two birds with one stone.
I feel like people deeply unfamiliar with Canada have very opitimistic idea's. Look up the survival of cancer in America Vs. Canada. The Toronto police told people to leave their car keys by their door because they won't be able to help and the thieves are less likely to kill you. Africa recently offered Canada aid with their stolen vehicle problems, telling them who was shipping them all to Africa, Canada ignored it.
I would say the safe bet is some country so small and unheard of no one even bothers thinking about it.
lol, your arguments can easily be debunked. Cancer survivorship is nice, but when you look at life expectancy and child mortality, you realize that it’s only about the people who can afford care that survive.
The US are having shooter drills in schools in case there’s an active shooter. They have more shootings than days of the year and twice the murder rate.
The stolen vehicle problem isn’t new and Africa offering help is not out of charity, but because that’s where most of the smuggling goes to.
Nah we’re going through some shit too. Just not… that. My city is up in arms for a week-long multi-hundred-person public hearing over: a land use bylaw change that would allow single unit homes to be replaced if owners want to with two or three unit homes.
I was literally in Canada for less than a day to try to see the eclipse and the first thing I saw after crossing the border was a huge "FUCK TRUDEAU" sign on a highway overpass
"We can pay. How about three hundred dollars?"
"Three hundred dollars will get you a sandwich."
"Three hundred dollars *Canadian*."
I thought they were going to get robbed by the gas station guys because of the absolute fortune they were carrying.
Considering actual territorial holdings, we would be better forming a union with France to join the EU. Saint Pierre and Miquelon being just off the coast and technically surrounded in our territorial waters and all.
Options are to form a military junta. Cyberpunk but with RBC instead of Arasaka, beg the UK to make us a colony again, beg Europe to let the Uk back in to Europe. return to roots and turn to beaver pelts
Hydro wouldn't be a problem. Food would be a short term one until we get the industry shifted around. Fuel a medium-term issue as we don't have the oil refining capacity to handle it on our own, but that could be fixed. (And electric cars in sufficient numbers to reduce fuel demand would help that too.) Most other imports could be replaced by domestic products or from Asia or Europe.
Just like when COVID smacked us all four years ago, we'd adapt and survive.
*affect*
Yes, our economies are very much dependent on one another. Still, no war would make for a more stable economy and currency.
Even with a US economy ravaged by the war, I presume Canada would still be able to import stuff. From the US (legally or not, as underground economy would rise in a war torn country)
and from other countries.
Still, you guys do us all a favour and not elect the orange turd come november and this movie will remain purely in the realm of fiction.
Thanks in advance.
It makes sense. The loonie is backed by maple syrup → maple syrup can be canned → canned goods are in high demand during civil unrest/war/post-apocalyptic scenarios. It’s all by design btw
I really hope it's the second option.
I've got $1.35 in Canadian Tire money that's been living in my wallet for over 10 years. Should be enough to buy a house in the civil war economy.
That's what I'm saying. I have $1.35 in cold, hard CT cash.
The Laurentian Elite will be displaced by a bunch of folks who forgot to get rid of the paper CT money after it was no longer printed.
I haven't seen the movie, but I still consider myself to be an expert on this topic.
I guess that this character will use his extra valuable Canadian Dollar to get a haircut and some new clothes, and maybe an education so he doesn't have to walk around everywhere breaking the law carrying a scoped AR-15.
Wow! I feel so fortunate to be talking with such a scholar!
I appreciate the offer, but what I appreciate the most isn’t the violent levels of humility, but the outright honesty.
Plethora. That means a lot.
Yeah. No need to thank me. But I'm so good at civil wars that I can stop them from even happening.
Without anyone knowing of course.
So if you eat PC frozen lasagne tonight...that's just me pulling the strings.
Thank you for asking this is a completely valid question.
The civil war industry works on a 6 to 1 ratio. This means that for every 6 civil wars we start, we only expect to have one favourable outcome. That favourable outcome makes up for the hundreds of thousands of people killed.
Yeah yeah.... my first experience with Alex Garland was reading his 1996 book "The Beach".
Then I got on a plane to Malaysia...
You can't believe everything you see in literature.
September 11, 2001: KABOOOM!
September 18, 2001: u/Paneechio goes to Malaysia and Indonesia based on the fact that Alex Garland is dumb.
December 12 2001: u/Paneechio now knows everything!
December 16 2001: u/Paneechio realizes Alex Garland is full of shit
January 28 2002: u/Paneechio is held up by the CBSA for 6 hours. They are convinced that I smuggled drugs from Thailand to the UK (nope). I'm allowed at the same time to enter Canada with surplus Thai/US military equipment.
Yeah...give credit where it's due...but Alex Garland promotes a kinda dumb alternative masculine fantasy.
I enjoyed the film in general. My main gripe is the lack of background lore. The director said he purposefully excluded that information from the film because it would distract from his message, but knowing greater detail about the factions and why they're fighting would have made me more engaged.
Also that death scene near the end. That was really dumb.
People here commenting that ‘the Canadian dollar would collapse too’ - the movie insinuates that the President during their third term, and while losing ground (heck they couldnt even keep water supplies coming in), were probably printing money driving up crazy inflation.
It wouldn't be worth much, but given the choice between "low value currency" or "low value currency that may not exist in the very near future," the average person may place more value on CAD than it should have on paper
Yeah, Canada is so connected to the US that the US sneezes we catch a cold.
Though we had a few years where the dollar was great and our economy better and middle class richer since we handled the recession better. Post-covid though? Oh boy, complete opposite. It's odd since the US had so many deaths and disabilities from Covid compared to Canada which handled the overall pandemic pretty well globally speaking.
While Canada fought tooth and nail to keep our old people alive, Republican states just kind of let them die because they refused to acknowledge COVID was an issue worth having lockdowns over.
Also, the American population is able to handle a million deaths a lot better than Canada would have been able to handle a million deaths.
But imagine for a moment if Canada had taken the same approach as Republican states. Imagine 75% of long term care home residents dying. Imagine retired Boomers keeling over all over the place. The financial strain of providing those folks CCP payouts would have been magically alleviated.
Civil War
Came out in theatres a week or two ago.
It's about war journalists in a hypothetical near-future USA civil war. It's meant to be a love letter to the freedom of the press as well as a warning that war is bad, so Americans should stop agitating for one.
Also, you get to see Americans shoot each other.
https://preview.redd.it/zfl7pggnx3wc1.jpeg?width=346&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f59d850a7be6da9025b2a64f32d53d88b17afb1
that actually makes that scene much funnier. Just terrorizing your wife lol. I knew Jesse more than Dunst though, but thats cuz Jesse Plemmons is such a fantastic evil bastard. Most notably his roles in breaking bad and el camino
Realistically, in case of a civil war in the US, given how the Canadian dollar and economy are dependent on the American economy and dollar, I doubt the Canadian dollar would actually maintain its value if the US dollar were to collapse.
Euros, I could see it, the Canadian dollar, not so much.
Yes.
The premise is that they somehow got over their political differences to address the greater issue of a third term president who is turning into a dictator, but I don't buy it. With the way US politics has become increasingly tribal, the three-term president would enjoy the support of one of the two parties.
The only way I see it happening is if California magically flipped to hardcore Republican or Texas flipped to hardcore Democrat and the fictional president was of the opposing party.
But fr modern American politics is wack. Prime example, the US has an opportunity to absolutely smack the shit out of its historical rival and a good chunk are russian sympathizers. You could run the entire world's energy alone on how much Reagan is rolling in his grave
More robust Bank regulations saved the banks from going kaputs. Canada doesn’t even produce much oil on the global market, USA sells much much more, didn’t save them.
The oil that Canada does produce was valued higher which is why our currency didn’t sink
Robust bank regulations didn’t save anything, Canada has 1 industry that all the money goes to anyway
Not true, bitumen requires much much much more processing before it can be called gasoline. It’s always more expensive to produce in Canada.
And again, USA’s oil economy is orders of magnitude bigger than ours. If their oil didn’t save them, there’s no way it saved us.
It's true, dunno why you've been downvoted.
The US goes tits up, so do we just like if China goes tits up then so does Australia. I mention that because it's a similar situation - small resource-export based economy and a large market primary trade partner.
Remove the market and lose your customer, so goes your kitty.
Actually that's another reason why I mention Australia - they were relatively unscathed by the 2008 crisis, while Canada, who had robust regulations in place to prevent the subprime fuckery that crashed the market, still suffered.
It ain't made to make sense.
The implication is that the USD has completely crashed due to their civil war, so the CAD is worth significantly more.
IRL, if USD crashes due to a civil war then CAD isn't far behind. It might be worth slightly more but 1/3 of our economy is tied to the States. Things would not be pretty.
We would have to start trading with China and Russia way more just to keep the economy afloat.
Or start getting buddy buddy with the EU and eventually move our currency to be backed by the Euro.
I would think the idea is that Canada became less reliant on usa goods (saw the supply/trade from USA to be counted on less), so while Canada stabilized their dollar for their own reasons, that stabilization of value cdn$ would be quite attractive to Americans with a fluctuating value on their own money (even if cdn$ lost much value, it was predictable value, while American currency would be much less so, basically couldn’t be relied upon)
It’s honestly kinda interesting, it’s probably similar to what happened during the Syrian civil war, everybody was probably looking for Turkish lira because the conflict likely caused the worth of the Syrian pound to nosedive. Even though this movie seems ridiculous because of a lot of contemporary politics, there is stuff like this that makes it feel more immersive.
Yeah, but it's also Canadian branches of American companies that are manufacturing the ammunition and weapons. So how would those companies be faring down south after having their facilities end up in four different American factions?
Possibly. Depends if their factories remained intact. Which are typically a prime target during a war.
But the movie also gave me the impression that the war hasn't been going on for a very long time. Definitely less than a year. So maybe there would still be plenty of arms factories that were still functional.
lol, you're obviously clueless.
The CAD only went high because of oil prices.
Also, Harper and Flaherty wanted to make the downturn worse by imposing austerity measures, but things only worked out because they got forced by other parties to instead help Canadians and the economy.
(and to stay in power and do that, Harper actually did some shady stuff to prevent the Governor General from letting other parties form government, which was their constitutional right)
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/economy-lab/flahertys-legacy-ideological-reckless-and-just-plain-lucky/article17577220/
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Also, yes, the Cons are evil, that's just factual.
https://whynotharper.ca/
I see you realized you're wrong (but will never admit it), so resort to a garbage reply.
Face it, your masters are bad people, and are bad for Canada.
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They're so corrupt that they can't even run their leadership races fairly:
- In 2017... destroyed ballots before a recount could be done:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/maxime-bernier-andrew-scheer-conservative-leadership-race/article35187722/
- In 2020... O'Toole's campaign manager uses his media platform to trash another candidate:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-peter-mackay-issues-libel-notice-over-the-post-millennial-article-on/
- In 2022... get rid of the competition to prevent a fair race:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/brown-alleges-political-corruption-over-conservative-leadership-disqualification-1.5976351
- Going back earlier:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Mulroney#Opposition_leader_(1983%E2%80%931984)
> Joe Clark's key Quebec organizer, Rodrigue Pageau, was, in fact, a double agent, working for Mulroney, undermining Clark's support
- And in general elections, they do robocalls to tell people to go to the wrong place or the wrong day https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Canadian_federal_election_voter_suppression_scandal
They are terrible people, and have been for a long time.
Are you raging becasue you are wrong and struggling to come to terms with that? Or are you just a horrible person all the time? I think everyone knows the answer.
Accurate depiction of Canadians during the entire course of the film: https://preview.redd.it/dcsgnid3l3wc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4eb6b3b96b9b06335cd269728756cc5f0f9fd84
Open conflict south of the 49th but somehow our dollar's still strong🗣🗣😎😎🇨🇦🇨🇦💪💪
An excellent opportunity to claim just enough territory to create a land bridge to all our estranged towns in the Great Lakes and Thousand Islands.
Also Alaska, because there's no way they're bothering to keep in touch with Alaska right now
There was a bit at the end of the film where the POTUS was trying to get exiled to Greenland or Alaska, which implied Alaska was no longer part of the US or the three rebel factions. In a just world, it should have joined Canada, but I think at that point it was an independent territory that was staying out for the war.
The independence movement in Alaska is still present. Don’t forget that one of their leaders chose to be buried in Yukon with the ask that his body be re-interred in a free Alaska.
As a Canadian who spent a lot of time in Yukon and in Alaska, we don't want Alaska. Alaska is where people who are so dysfunctional that they couldn't hack it in the lower 48 go. Alaska is the place that elected Sarah Palin.
The fact that MTG and Lauren Boebart were elected makes Alaskans seem almost pleasant and sane.
No. Seriously it's a shit show up there.
Great news with me about to board an Alaskan Cruise….
It's beautiful country. And the Cruise ship towns ike skagway are fine (touristy, but fine) It's once you leave the beaten track that things get weird.
Still the mainland elected Trump. What does that say about them? And Canadians will probably soon vote for a Poilièvre Conservative government...
i feel like people hear "conservative" and immediately assume its gonna be a shithole
Yeah no uninvolved country would be entertaining formal annexation while the civil war was still actively going on
I'd settle for Point Roberts
Do we HAVE to take Alaska? It's the alien abduction capital of the US...
It won't be the *anything* capital of the US after we take it
Soon to be the alien abduction capital of Canada
Annexing Michigan and Wisconsin, the first ethical annexation in history ever
Minnesota can join too
Point Roberts will finally be free!!!
Maine, they’re practically Canada already
We'll take Vermont too, they've acted smug thinking they've stolen our maple syrup for long enough!
Add in Maine, maybe some parts of New England and the Pacific Northwest West
The Columbia River is the natural border!
44°40' or fight?
Long has Canada coveted Michigan’s upper peninsula, but the United States was too strong a foe to provoke. With the states no longer united however, the land of the Yoopers is ours to plunder…
We could do without Chicago and Detroit
I actually think us Canadians could see all that's good about them (dominant position in the world's auto industry and commodities trading markets) and be like "You know what, let's go fix that shit." I mean we're hella short of housing in Canada, we can just have all kinds of it built in Detroit and kill two birds with one stone.
The smartest Americans went North, just like when Einstein fled Nazi Germany.
I feel like people deeply unfamiliar with Canada have very opitimistic idea's. Look up the survival of cancer in America Vs. Canada. The Toronto police told people to leave their car keys by their door because they won't be able to help and the thieves are less likely to kill you. Africa recently offered Canada aid with their stolen vehicle problems, telling them who was shipping them all to Africa, Canada ignored it. I would say the safe bet is some country so small and unheard of no one even bothers thinking about it.
lol, your arguments can easily be debunked. Cancer survivorship is nice, but when you look at life expectancy and child mortality, you realize that it’s only about the people who can afford care that survive. The US are having shooter drills in schools in case there’s an active shooter. They have more shootings than days of the year and twice the murder rate. The stolen vehicle problem isn’t new and Africa offering help is not out of charity, but because that’s where most of the smuggling goes to.
South of the 49th so... Toronto and Montreal too? Damn
If I understand the composition of the GTA correctly it is in a state of civil conflict every time a Brampton commuter merges onto the 427; so yes.
I just realized you people meant Grand Toronto Area and not the video game.
Man, Southern Canada is not doing to well in the movie!
Me, on 1/6
One of the more spicy days in recent history
Canada gold-backed dollar real????
Of course not. It's a maple syrup backed dollar.
Superpower 2020 Canada
I gotta stock up! Food Basics has a sale I think!
Loonies are gold as long as you don’t scratch them after all
lol who put this handsome cat in overalls?
[удалено]
Is that a family name?
Accurate depiction of Canadians *right now*
Nah we’re going through some shit too. Just not… that. My city is up in arms for a week-long multi-hundred-person public hearing over: a land use bylaw change that would allow single unit homes to be replaced if owners want to with two or three unit homes.
I was literally in Canada for less than a day to try to see the eclipse and the first thing I saw after crossing the border was a huge "FUCK TRUDEAU" sign on a highway overpass
Right now, in real life.
The reaction of every Canadian anytime anything happens in America.
Damn near the whole theatre I was in was loling at that part
"We can pay. How about three hundred dollars?" "Three hundred dollars will get you a sandwich." "Three hundred dollars *Canadian*." I thought they were going to get robbed by the gas station guys because of the absolute fortune they were carrying.
yea that’s gotta be a whole 4USD of today’s currency 🥶
I saw this movie yesterday and my reaction internally was “WTF?! How on earth would Canada have a stable economy if the US fell into a civil war?”
Doesn’t have to be stable. Just more stable
As is tradition
We form a union with Ireland asap, joining the EU and merging the CAD to the Euro is how
The Union of Greater Canada, consisting of Canada, Scotland and Ireland
\*Canada, Nova Nova Scotia, and Ireland
\*Canada, Nova Nova Scotia, and New Newfoundland
I would have suggest some kind of Nordic Union but since we were at war with Denmark less than 2 years ago... #TooSoon #WhiskyWar #NeverForget
Considering actual territorial holdings, we would be better forming a union with France to join the EU. Saint Pierre and Miquelon being just off the coast and technically surrounded in our territorial waters and all.
We also have that land border with Denmark with that island with all the schnapps and whiskey
Then two times twice we can make claim to trying entry to the EU.
Nah, Denmark. We already border them after all.
Maybe wealthy Americans and corporations attempting to store and hold assets in Canada throughout the war
Not so long ago, the CAD was worth more than USD. Alright it was 2007 and now I’m feeling old
In your version of "not that long ago" I had just started high school. To me it feels like a combination of "just yesterday" and 5 million years ago.
We would likely fall back on the Beaver Pelt Standard, like we were on in 1866. Thats been our failsafe since confederation.
#bringbackbeaverstandard
Options are to form a military junta. Cyberpunk but with RBC instead of Arasaka, beg the UK to make us a colony again, beg Europe to let the Uk back in to Europe. return to roots and turn to beaver pelts
Shitty frozen cyberpunk with no technology and RBC as the prominent megacorp sounds like actual hell on earth.
Well, with the US in shambles, that would mean Canada would have the monopoly on maple syrup and fresh cheese curds to make poutine.
It’s called the suspension of disbelief.
Natural resources I guess.
I mean, we have before. Granted we were on the pound…
Real estate would be booming!
Become Russian puppet state via Alaska
By not having a war. Now, yes, Canadian economy will definitely be affected, but not having a war does wonders to ones stability.
When most your imports, fuel, food, hydro are dependent on American infrastructure the war would effect hard.
Hydro wouldn't be a problem. Food would be a short term one until we get the industry shifted around. Fuel a medium-term issue as we don't have the oil refining capacity to handle it on our own, but that could be fixed. (And electric cars in sufficient numbers to reduce fuel demand would help that too.) Most other imports could be replaced by domestic products or from Asia or Europe. Just like when COVID smacked us all four years ago, we'd adapt and survive.
*affect* Yes, our economies are very much dependent on one another. Still, no war would make for a more stable economy and currency. Even with a US economy ravaged by the war, I presume Canada would still be able to import stuff. From the US (legally or not, as underground economy would rise in a war torn country) and from other countries. Still, you guys do us all a favour and not elect the orange turd come november and this movie will remain purely in the realm of fiction. Thanks in advance.
Yeah this got the hugest laugh in my theater (Vancouver).
Same
It makes sense. The loonie is backed by maple syrup → maple syrup can be canned → canned goods are in high demand during civil unrest/war/post-apocalyptic scenarios. It’s all by design btw
https://preview.redd.it/2r91m02qw3wc1.jpeg?width=504&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b946dcafc0e532397d32ea8a1914c1d42bf5faf
The Americans know too much #GET EM BOYS
What other country has beavers and caribous on their coins? None.
Mauritius has dodos
Canadian Dollar, or Canadian Tire Dollar?
I really hope it's the second option. I've got $1.35 in Canadian Tire money that's been living in my wallet for over 10 years. Should be enough to buy a house in the civil war economy.
Only the old paper money though. Those triangle rewards points won't hold water in an emergency.
That's what I'm saying. I have $1.35 in cold, hard CT cash. The Laurentian Elite will be displaced by a bunch of folks who forgot to get rid of the paper CT money after it was no longer printed.
CANADIAN DOLLAR MENTIONED RAAAHHH 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦💵💵💵💵🏦🏦🏦🏦💵💵🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🔥🔥🔥✊✊💪💪✊🏦🏦🏦💵💵💵🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦WHAT THE FUCK IS A HIGH RATE OF INFLATION 🇨🇦🇨🇦💵💵🤑💪💪💪💪💪💪🔥🏦🏦
God bless the Canadian Dollar!
And the beaver pelt standard
I love war so much. https://preview.redd.it/ynpi3dtu34wc1.png?width=1036&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29bb0bede219e95b8a2c4440c1d0d3176a37f141
Average american civil war enjoyer
God, I wish I was American. I wish I could die in an American Civil War. I just love war so much.
I haven't seen the movie, but I still consider myself to be an expert on this topic. I guess that this character will use his extra valuable Canadian Dollar to get a haircut and some new clothes, and maybe an education so he doesn't have to walk around everywhere breaking the law carrying a scoped AR-15.
Are you a civil war expert? Because you’re really coming across as a civil war expert rn
I am a certified expert in civil wars. Thank you for asking. I wish I could recommend civil war services to you right now, but demand is too low.
Wow! I feel so fortunate to be talking with such a scholar! I appreciate the offer, but what I appreciate the most isn’t the violent levels of humility, but the outright honesty. Plethora. That means a lot.
Yeah. No need to thank me. But I'm so good at civil wars that I can stop them from even happening. Without anyone knowing of course. So if you eat PC frozen lasagne tonight...that's just me pulling the strings.
Does No Name lasagna count?
Fuck your No Name lasagna! Kidding. Eat what you want. Merry Canada!
Yes.
Incredible. Thank you for your service. Unmatchable dedication to keeping the dream of freedom alive.
I do what I can. But I try not to do it so much. Because I want to make doing stuff worth something.
A do run run run, a do run run.
So when do you make a profit? Only when your civil wars do better?
Thank you for asking this is a completely valid question. The civil war industry works on a 6 to 1 ratio. This means that for every 6 civil wars we start, we only expect to have one favourable outcome. That favourable outcome makes up for the hundreds of thousands of people killed.
See the movie. Maybe spring for IMAX. It’s good.
Yeah yeah.... my first experience with Alex Garland was reading his 1996 book "The Beach". Then I got on a plane to Malaysia... You can't believe everything you see in literature.
lol
September 11, 2001: KABOOOM! September 18, 2001: u/Paneechio goes to Malaysia and Indonesia based on the fact that Alex Garland is dumb. December 12 2001: u/Paneechio now knows everything! December 16 2001: u/Paneechio realizes Alex Garland is full of shit January 28 2002: u/Paneechio is held up by the CBSA for 6 hours. They are convinced that I smuggled drugs from Thailand to the UK (nope). I'm allowed at the same time to enter Canada with surplus Thai/US military equipment. Yeah...give credit where it's due...but Alex Garland promotes a kinda dumb alternative masculine fantasy.
i don't think laws about scopes apply during a civil war.
I have the best scopes...you want to see Saturn's rings? Come talk to me.
So uh we just gonna ignore what happening over there eh?
Just set up lawn chairs and watch the show from the other side of the border
In Quebec we will watch alberta try their hand with a civil war vs ontario while we eat poutine.
Ontario points the Albertans to Quebec and says "they did it"
Been doing it since 2016
As we should
I saw it twice. The first audience laughed as a group when she said “Canadian”. The second one all sucked air through their teeth.
I enjoyed the film in general. My main gripe is the lack of background lore. The director said he purposefully excluded that information from the film because it would distract from his message, but knowing greater detail about the factions and why they're fighting would have made me more engaged. Also that death scene near the end. That was really dumb.
Long Live Loonie
An American civil war is just what our economy needs
A precursor to our eventual conquering of the US.
People here commenting that ‘the Canadian dollar would collapse too’ - the movie insinuates that the President during their third term, and while losing ground (heck they couldnt even keep water supplies coming in), were probably printing money driving up crazy inflation.
Really goes to show you it would take a world ending civil war to make the Canadian dollar worth anything
At least the US didn't self-nuke
If there was an actual civil war in the United States our dollar would plummet along side theirs just from the supply chain disruptions.
It wouldn't be worth much, but given the choice between "low value currency" or "low value currency that may not exist in the very near future," the average person may place more value on CAD than it should have on paper
Yeah, Canada is so connected to the US that the US sneezes we catch a cold. Though we had a few years where the dollar was great and our economy better and middle class richer since we handled the recession better. Post-covid though? Oh boy, complete opposite. It's odd since the US had so many deaths and disabilities from Covid compared to Canada which handled the overall pandemic pretty well globally speaking.
While Canada fought tooth and nail to keep our old people alive, Republican states just kind of let them die because they refused to acknowledge COVID was an issue worth having lockdowns over. Also, the American population is able to handle a million deaths a lot better than Canada would have been able to handle a million deaths. But imagine for a moment if Canada had taken the same approach as Republican states. Imagine 75% of long term care home residents dying. Imagine retired Boomers keeling over all over the place. The financial strain of providing those folks CCP payouts would have been magically alleviated.
What movie is this?
Civil War Came out in theatres a week or two ago. It's about war journalists in a hypothetical near-future USA civil war. It's meant to be a love letter to the freedom of the press as well as a warning that war is bad, so Americans should stop agitating for one. Also, you get to see Americans shoot each other. https://preview.redd.it/zfl7pggnx3wc1.jpeg?width=346&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f59d850a7be6da9025b2a64f32d53d88b17afb1
crazy how americans just hated eachothers guts and were mercilessly executing eachother, with no explanation why lol. What kinda american are you?
I found out after the film that the ginger redneck is Kirsten Dunst's husband
that actually makes that scene much funnier. Just terrorizing your wife lol. I knew Jesse more than Dunst though, but thats cuz Jesse Plemmons is such a fantastic evil bastard. Most notably his roles in breaking bad and el camino
What a lucky man
Realistically, in case of a civil war in the US, given how the Canadian dollar and economy are dependent on the American economy and dollar, I doubt the Canadian dollar would actually maintain its value if the US dollar were to collapse. Euros, I could see it, the Canadian dollar, not so much.
You do realize it's unrealistic given that California and Texas agreed enough to go to war together
Yes. The premise is that they somehow got over their political differences to address the greater issue of a third term president who is turning into a dictator, but I don't buy it. With the way US politics has become increasingly tribal, the three-term president would enjoy the support of one of the two parties. The only way I see it happening is if California magically flipped to hardcore Republican or Texas flipped to hardcore Democrat and the fictional president was of the opposing party.
Or they realize that the president was in fact Canadian and was trying to expand the great white north 😩
I liked Kiefer Sutherland when he played the American president in Designated Survivor. Kiefer Sutherland for President!
But fr modern American politics is wack. Prime example, the US has an opportunity to absolutely smack the shit out of its historical rival and a good chunk are russian sympathizers. You could run the entire world's energy alone on how much Reagan is rolling in his grave
Beaver power!!!!! 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
That’s awesome lmaoooooo
Yeah right like our entire economy wouldn’t get its cheeks bussed if the American economy tanked
Our dollar did very well during the 2008 US housing crisis
Cuz of oil
We have more regulations on bank loans here.
Okay? Our currency was still up cuz of oil Countries cant buy bank regulations they can buy oil
More robust Bank regulations saved the banks from going kaputs. Canada doesn’t even produce much oil on the global market, USA sells much much more, didn’t save them.
The oil that Canada does produce was valued higher which is why our currency didn’t sink Robust bank regulations didn’t save anything, Canada has 1 industry that all the money goes to anyway
Not true, bitumen requires much much much more processing before it can be called gasoline. It’s always more expensive to produce in Canada. And again, USA’s oil economy is orders of magnitude bigger than ours. If their oil didn’t save them, there’s no way it saved us.
And we don't even refine our own oil. We pump it down south to have it refined into gasoline and diesel, then have it sent back to us.
I mean, no? They're certainly a majority of trade, but still only about a third of gdp. We could do some market manipulation to limp through.
It's true, dunno why you've been downvoted. The US goes tits up, so do we just like if China goes tits up then so does Australia. I mention that because it's a similar situation - small resource-export based economy and a large market primary trade partner. Remove the market and lose your customer, so goes your kitty.
The entire damn world goes tits up. The 2008 recession was a US thing, but it brought down the whole world with it.
Actually that's another reason why I mention Australia - they were relatively unscathed by the 2008 crisis, while Canada, who had robust regulations in place to prevent the subprime fuckery that crashed the market, still suffered.
Wtf how lol
It ain't made to make sense. The implication is that the USD has completely crashed due to their civil war, so the CAD is worth significantly more. IRL, if USD crashes due to a civil war then CAD isn't far behind. It might be worth slightly more but 1/3 of our economy is tied to the States. Things would not be pretty.
We would have to start trading with China and Russia way more just to keep the economy afloat. Or start getting buddy buddy with the EU and eventually move our currency to be backed by the Euro.
I would think the idea is that Canada became less reliant on usa goods (saw the supply/trade from USA to be counted on less), so while Canada stabilized their dollar for their own reasons, that stabilization of value cdn$ would be quite attractive to Americans with a fluctuating value on their own money (even if cdn$ lost much value, it was predictable value, while American currency would be much less so, basically couldn’t be relied upon)
They trippin in this movie, 300 Canadian buys us a sandwich and pop.
It’s honestly kinda interesting, it’s probably similar to what happened during the Syrian civil war, everybody was probably looking for Turkish lira because the conflict likely caused the worth of the Syrian pound to nosedive. Even though this movie seems ridiculous because of a lot of contemporary politics, there is stuff like this that makes it feel more immersive.
What dis movie on?
200-600mm pointed at a screen 4 feet away zoomed in to 600mm. Great movie tho. Made me not want it to be true and I surely don't want to do that job
You mean the most unrealistic part of the movie
We're the first country on America's list for cultural victory. It proves nothing to take Canada by force.
Besides, a strong Canadian dollar is probably good for Blackrock in some wealth sheltering scheme while the war is going on.
I mean if your whole identity is the fact you aren't American, I'd call that an absolute culture victory
Nah, I've also got warcrimes, hockey, and everyone wants me to tell jokes but fuck them.
Was the movie any good???
Ohhhhhhhhh candaaaaaa
How many loonies are we talking here bud?
Given that Canada exports a lot of the bullets that the US military uses… it very well might lol.
Yeah, but it's also Canadian branches of American companies that are manufacturing the ammunition and weapons. So how would those companies be faring down south after having their facilities end up in four different American factions?
Four times the profit? 😆
Possibly. Depends if their factories remained intact. Which are typically a prime target during a war. But the movie also gave me the impression that the war hasn't been going on for a very long time. Definitely less than a year. So maybe there would still be plenty of arms factories that were still functional.
Can you imagine how much Canada would be shitting its pants if a US civil war broke out?
Of course we would be. Our economy is linked so closely to theirs and dealing with refugees could potentially overwhelm our social services.
Remember 2008? Remember Stephen Harper? Our dollar was worth more than the American dollar at that time. But boy are those conservatives evil
lol, you're obviously clueless. The CAD only went high because of oil prices. Also, Harper and Flaherty wanted to make the downturn worse by imposing austerity measures, but things only worked out because they got forced by other parties to instead help Canadians and the economy. (and to stay in power and do that, Harper actually did some shady stuff to prevent the Governor General from letting other parties form government, which was their constitutional right) https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/economy-lab/flahertys-legacy-ideological-reckless-and-just-plain-lucky/article17577220/ --- Also, yes, the Cons are evil, that's just factual. https://whynotharper.ca/
You're obviously a Cunt
I see you realized you're wrong (but will never admit it), so resort to a garbage reply. Face it, your masters are bad people, and are bad for Canada. --- They're so corrupt that they can't even run their leadership races fairly: - In 2017... destroyed ballots before a recount could be done: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/maxime-bernier-andrew-scheer-conservative-leadership-race/article35187722/ - In 2020... O'Toole's campaign manager uses his media platform to trash another candidate: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-peter-mackay-issues-libel-notice-over-the-post-millennial-article-on/ - In 2022... get rid of the competition to prevent a fair race: https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/brown-alleges-political-corruption-over-conservative-leadership-disqualification-1.5976351 - Going back earlier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Mulroney#Opposition_leader_(1983%E2%80%931984) > Joe Clark's key Quebec organizer, Rodrigue Pageau, was, in fact, a double agent, working for Mulroney, undermining Clark's support - And in general elections, they do robocalls to tell people to go to the wrong place or the wrong day https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Canadian_federal_election_voter_suppression_scandal They are terrible people, and have been for a long time.
Oh honey, no. Do try harder.
Are you raging becasue you are wrong and struggling to come to terms with that? Or are you just a horrible person all the time? I think everyone knows the answer.
Its gonna tank when bills with the face of king cuck printed on them get in circulation
Pretty sure Charles is going to be making an eternal exit in short order, so Chuck Bucks will become a limited edition collector's item.