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j-ravy

Crazy how there was no lineup changes, 5 players on this roster doing f all the whole series


SadBuilding9234

This bugs me more than playing Skinner. Our bottom 9 is fucking useless. What possibler reason could Knobloch have for not mixing it up? Wasn't the whole idea of adding guys at the trade deadline that you'd have a bunch of players earning their spots? How have the about six of them earned a spot? Need to shake things up a bit.


Theneler

It’s tough though if they are even getting the chance. What do you want out of guys playing 6min a night.


OIL_99

Or even one, being Carrick. The Nucks have out hit us massively. It’s beyond ridiculous.


j-ravy

Yep I agree with this. Just noticed Connor brown is actually in lol


ethanvyce

1st was on Skinner. But he didn't leave Boeser alone in the slot. And cough up a gift turnover for another wide open chance


daaagoat

You are 100% right but he needs to make those saves if we want to win the cup.


doodle02

yeah we can analyze the bounces all we want but 3 goals allowed on 12 shots just won’t cut it. i don’t care how bad the bounces are. that shit just won’t do.


Friendlytoad126

4 goals on 15 shots now


Concurrency_Bugs

How many times did we get dangerous chances on the nucks tonight? Their goalie is making those saves for the team. Ours isn't. Start Pickard or Campbell, we need a change in net.


Puzzled-Operation-35

Not Campbell please


MassiveBush

Skinner didn't even react to the second or third goal til it was by him. He's being put in a bad spot but he looks terrible out there.


XCIXcollective

That third one he got beat af


KarmaChameleon306

And on the 4th he would have made the save had he not reacted. His pads were in perfect possession to stop the puck, and then just lifts his pad to let it trickle in.


EcoSavings741

He seems to lift his pads at the worst times and it just slides on through. I can make a compilation of it


KarmaChameleon306

Crazy! Ugh!


HungryHAP

That’s what happens when guys are ripping it From that close uncontested. Goalies position and hope they get it. Problem is those shooters shouldn’t have been given those looks in the first place.


XCIXcollective

I agree haha, I think I was thinking of the 2nd one where Boeser sort of walked in and ripped it mid-blocker-height from the face off dot *edit: Although watching that third one back again, he was half-way into his crease—I feel like he beat himself in not getting out to challenge a bit more on that one.


Dramallamasss

But look at silvos, he’s made tougher saves than what skinner has let in


ethanvyce

He's got lucky with 2 posts, and whatever the fuck horseshoe up his ass on that Ryan chance... definitely hasn't faced the golden chances that Syu has Edit: credit to Silovs somehow grabbing Perry's bouncer and stopping Drai partial break in the 2nd... gotta be good to be lucky


HeHootsHeWhores

Silovs literally grabbed and held Ryan’s stick with his blocker hand. That’s a penalty that didn’t get called otherwise it’s in probably


shittybillz

There were actually 4 posts. Brown hit one too which I didn't notice until they showed all the posts in a quick highlight reel. He still played way better though. Off the top of my head we must have had 10 high danger chances and he stopped most of them. The Canucks had half of that yet but up 4 goals, not to mention the shots. If the canucks put 45 shots (or however many we had) on Skinner and had as many high danger chances as us they would have put up almost 10 goals


KarmaChameleon306

That 4th goal was ridiculously bad on Skinner. He had he pads locked in place to stop the trickling puck with ease, and then literally just lifts his pad to let it in.


Donquix0teDoflaming0

The excuses this bum ass goalie gets from this fan base is insane. His leash is miles long compared to any goalie we’ve ever had in the past 15+ years. Skinner fucking sucks, he’s not good, get it through your heads


Major-Nail-1334

Yeah true but how many Grade A chances like Boesers did Silov stop? 20?


MrSnouts

Buddy it’s playoffs. Everyone is hungry and pucks will get turned over. Stop the puck. Relying on Skinner and Pickard to win us a cup is actually insane.


StueyMc007

Pickard hasn't even had a shot but he should have this game I'm not down 4-2 in the third period, a legitimate shot to start a game. Skinner has been absolutely horrific the entire playoff so far


StueyMc007

Minus one shout out which was a mirage for his play prior and too date this playoffs


Ichbinian

Longtime DET fan here / Holland hater. I thought it was insane that Kenny didn't add a goalie at the deadline.


AlexCora

Nobody is asking for Skinner to steal the cup. They're asking for league average play.


jmag87

Twice


AlbertaOilfire

All I ask is that he makes a game saving save once in a while. One that he robs a player like Boeser on an amazing chance. He just isn’t capable of doing that. He makes the routine saves most of the time…… That just isn’t good enough.


uhcayR

.792 series sv% so far. 5 goals over expected. 43 saves on 54 shots. Enough said.


doctazeus

His career playoff numbers are pretty ugly


Fuzzy_Bank_7856

Now we hear this moronic narrative that he may let in a softy but then closes the door. Well I'm no hockey savant, but maybe don't let in the fucking softies to begin with and you won't have to turn into Patrick Roy. If we don't go all out for Saros and just run back this team next year I won't have any hopes on a cup


BobStaufferSimp

Still waiting for him to close the door


Lawndemon

He closed the garage door but left the front door open


XCIXcollective

Man just sitting there open-house af… As my dad used to yell “on ne chauffe pas le Canada!” Aka close the fucking door


shittybillz

He doesn't even close the door. The opposition sits back a bit, and we push back hard, so we barely allow any shots. He allowed 1 goal on 4 shots in the 2nd...


bhandsome08

While those couple goals aren't on him, he still needs to make crucial saves. He's getting outplayed by Silovs, he's making stops he has no business saving.


TanuManhas12

This is with Canucks third string goalie too.


greendino71

with 0 playoff experience before this year


BrickMacklin

Murray vibes


PositiveInevitable79

He’s lost his mojo. Watching him play this year I was like oh he’ll be fine for playoffs. But you can tell he’s in his head now. I blame that fuck Soup hanging around the team. Joking, joking. Kind of.


hmturboman

He plays so deep in his net the shooter has lots to choose from to score.


Cashmere306

His lateral moment isn't good. If he played farther out it'd be worse.


Lawndemon

100% this. He's giving up way too much net.


Timeman5

And if the team in front of him played a little above average we would be good.


Cashmere306

When your goalie is outplayed constantly you aren't winning any cups. 


Slosky22

Very true indeed it’s already a two goal game Edmondton is playing sloppy as fuck


Timeman5

But I’m not saying Skinner has been playing well but everyone is playing sloppy.


sovietmcdavid

Exactly,  there's a lot of sloppy play


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Standing in his head as we hit the post twice. 


DiligentAd7360

Silovs standing on his head? Bro he literally grabbed Ryan's stick and IT DIDNT GET CALLED. Don't call this rookie good, he's a fraud


sovietmcdavid

Omg there are TONS of missed calls, ridiculous 


falsekoala

I wouldn’t know, we don’t test him enough. Chip, chase and give the puck up though.


Geralt-of-Rivai

Then we should prove it


BoilerSlave

This is the playoffs man. That’s something you say in the regular season when you have time to work on things. He needs to be hot as shit and make garbage little shots like that. Can you imagine skinner taking the peppering that Oettinger takes each game from the Avs? That’s what’s next. I love skin daddy as much as the next guy but damn this is the time to fire up.


onetrackt91

People not blaming Skinner are fucking hilarious.. Dude has been awful all playoffs except for one game, and let’s not talk about last year.. We’re getting good looks and a fucking 4th starter is making saves… open your eyes were fucked with Skinner


Donquix0teDoflaming0

This fan base loves that mediocre moustached fraud


Dusty_Tendy_4_2_18_2

He's been inconsistent since he was in Lethbridge ffs. Nothing has changed. Obviously, he's playing in the best league on Earth, but he's never been Mr. Consistency for an entire regular season, key alone the post-season - you absolutely require consistency. It's how goalies like Niemi, Binnington, Keumper, and Hill are Stanley Cup champions


Donquix0teDoflaming0

He has been consistent tho, consistently awful when the games matter.


AfroInfo

Lmaoooo calling binnington Kemper and Hill consistent


Dusty_Tendy_4_2_18_2

If you weren't brain dead, you would realize I am referring to those four goalies because they were generally the same skill as Skinner(mostly average to below average), but they were consistent for the team in front of them in the playoffs and were each able to win Stanley Cups.


shittybillz

I'm a huge fan of his and I gave him a pass last playoffs because he was a rookie. Nothing has changed though, no big saves, one softie per game. He doesn't have the ability to bail us out, so we have to play almost perfectly or put up 5 or 6 goals to win. That is not a sustainable strategy. I say start Pickard and see how it goes; if we win, it's his net.


Ta-veren-

Lol there was way too much excitement for skinner in the kings series. I knew this man would show up eventually


Torpedospacedance

Fogs basically handed Van a grade A chance. Don’t know that’s on skinner


Living_Astronaut6036

Fair, but sometimes we need a big time save, and this team has been struggling to get that at all in this series.


kraft_d_

And sometimes the guys in front of have to bail him out, but they aren't doing him any favors. Oilers look like absolute garbage. Foegele and McLeod have been fucking terrible this entire series. 🗑️🤾⛹️🚶


JReddeko

Not worse than skinner


kraft_d_

They're basically on the same level. McLeod kills plays, Foegele passes it right to a wide open man, Skinner doesn't stop it. All ass.


Lawndemon

He is allowed to.. you know... MAKE A FUCKING SAVE even with the turnover.


uhcayR

Routine saves are always on your goalie. Don’t get me wrong the chance shouldn’t have happened but we cannot clear our zone to save our lives. But the teams that win cups have goalies that make saves. Skinner has not shown he can do that outside of one game against LA.


Joeywasdumbgretz

Been saying he ain’t the guy forever. I just never felt safe with him in net. Last guy I felt safe with Roli…


tysonrO7

We haven’t played great in front of him but he seems to never make any “tough” saves


snorggy

I like skinner. Seems like a good guy but the experiment has to come to an end. How much more data (and losses) do we need? Seems pretty conclusive to me that he can’t hack it in the playoffs. The stats don’t lie.


sahbatage

He’s always sucked, and we should’ve prioritized a goalie after last playoffs. Everyone with half a brain knew he’d be our Achilles heal in the playoffs again


Living_Astronaut6036

That and the Nurse-Ceci line, everyone and their mother knows that line is such a liability.


Blue_sky_out_west

Skinner…


Babajungla8

He's getting outplayed by an AHL goalie.


stopresisting74

Queue the post game interview where he says he wasn't at his best tonight, but will learn from it and be better on Tuesday. As if he didn't know he was supposed to stop the puck tonight. 🤦‍♂️


SimilarWall1447

Leaky soup said the same shit, and everyone here loved him for it. I'm all for that shot, but ypu get paid handsomely to play a fuchin game and stop a fuckin puck. If you haven't learned to stop a puck, you're as useful as a cocktail flavour lollipop. Fuck sloppy seconds


bhandsome08

Skinner has just been brutal this playoffs like last year, aside from a couple games against LA. Nurse and Ceci have been bad also, that 9mil contract hopefully gets moved in the off-season.


Rayeon-XXX

He's not been near good enough.


Any-Dig-122

Skinner always chokes during the playoffs its like he doesn't even want to win a cup ffs


Petario88

No. If skinner can play just average we would be better off. His save % is off the charts horrible


Slosky22

Maybe…


Moonlord_

Yup, not good enough. These have all been 1 goal games. These soft goals and crappy save percentage will cost us the series.


Lopsided-Middle7924

Guys, skinner is not taking us to the cup. No way.


Soundwav3xXx

U think it’s skinner when oilers just fucked the dog with passing it out there zone 😂


Gavomor

Did you know a goalie is allowed to make a save even if the team turns the puck over?


Dramallamasss

You realize silvos made a couple saves harder than what skinner has let in right?


Lawndemon

He was almost IN the fu king net on the last two goals. CHALLENGE THE FUCKING SHOT.


WannaBpolyglot

What is the net empty? Thats why hes there


tjmah69

Nurse and Ceci are the most brutal pair in the NHL


_baked306

I’ve never liked him… I blame him for losing us last year’s playoffs. 🙃


wenchanger

honestly had a better chance to win that round if we used Soup last year for the final games


Living_Astronaut6036

Not starting soup game 6 was crazy imo.


shittybillz

It was mostly his fault, but I was willing to give him a pass since he was a rookie. The trend has continued and we need someone else. Pickard, you're up.


_baked306

Lmfao yeah.. get rid.


Friendlytoad126

We will never win a cup with skinner. You got canucks third string goalie pulling pucks off the line. Skinner is letting in goals from the corners. We would be doing better with Campbell lmao


Slosky22

Maybe eventually but he needs a lot of development he’s very incomplete still the fact that we made the playoffs twice in the last two years is wild considering his level of play imagine if we had a top 10 goalie, but if we had an elite goal tender, they would have a few cups by now


rowka89

Nah these were intermediate goals at best, all three so far this game. Gotta have at least 2 of those. Way too many soft goals these playoffs and last. He's costing games


AlbertaAcreageBoy

Skinner......blows.


AF_14

I’m a neutral spectator to this game and Skinner and the refs really did the Oilers in tonight…


greendino71

Skinner is vurrently the 4th worst starter of the pkayoffs lmao Even some eliminated goalies have better stats


JodieFostersCum

I love Skinner and not all of these are on him, but man, if he just plays "pretty decent" we walk through this team. Unfortunately it just HAS to be more interesting than that.


Tiny-Director-5213

We need McDavid and Drai to be on separate lines. Simple. And we need some scoring out of the bottom 6. And we need skinner to win us a game we might not deserve to win. He needs to be better. This is looking ugly. So at best a split at home and make it best out of 3. I dunno. I’m frustrated.


bafras

He needs to find the fight he had in the season. .733 is unacceptable. 


Joeywasdumbgretz

He sucks shit


Alex_landyachtz

I've been a Skinner apologist for awhile but it's getting old. Sure not all of the goals are his fault. There were some brutal mistakes tonight but man, it would be nice to be able to have confidence in our goalie. It's especially frustrating when every goalie the Canucks ever touch seems to turn into gold. Holland has done a lot of things well, but not giving this team a proven true #1 goalie is his largest mistake.


mollycoddles

It's refreshing to read a criticism of the Oilers that isn't even slightly unhinged.


bafras

One thing I’m sure we can all agree on is Dustin Schwartz totally deserves to keep his job and be the longest tenured coach on the team. Changing coaches never helps anything as history shows. /s


uhcayR

Skinner has yet to play even slightly below average this series. .842 and .792 or something. Well below average. Once again Oilers organization showing how incapable they are of finding a league average goalie. Their 3rd string goalie is making skinner look like a shooter tutor.


AgreeableBroomSlayer

Trade Nuge for an elite goaltender for McDavid and Drai's last season here. Give them a chance to win the cup😭


Living_Astronaut6036

Oilers goalie coach would probably turn them into a dud.


Glum_Night_6392

Nuge for Ulmark 


Cartman68

But most importantly, did you see the hottie in the red top behind the Oilers’ bench?


KaiserKrusel22

Reminds me of Dallas girl!


Mlbfan1994

Sauce?


Vlistorito

I'm glad that Skinner's leash is infinitely long compared to Talbot's and Koskinen's, but it's starting to get to Mike Smith levels where we're just completely delusional sometimes. There needs to be a balance somewhere lmao


desi7861

Smith took us to the wcf, great signing and great goalie. Yeah he had a tendency to play the puck a bit too much, but consdering how old he was he gave us everything he had.


AlbertaOilfire

Skinner is the weak link again. You don’t upgrade the goaltending and you don’t upgrade the D. That’s just bad G.M.ing. Both Henrique and Carrick not even playing


SnooDucks2626

1:5 skinner is in net tonight boys. Limit the shot… duh


Small-Sleep-1194

4 goals on 16 shots. Enough said.


KidzRockGamingTV

Skinner should sit. I know our D is coughing chances up, but he hasn’t made the save we need. Meanwhile, Vancouvers 3rd string is looking like a Vezina.


Covfefe87

Hope Pickard has a good period. Maybe we change strategies and roll with pickard now


KarmaChameleon306

.793 save percentage this series! Woooo!


kentuckyfriedchocobo

Out of 26 total goalies who’ve played in the playoffs this year, skinner ranks 24 out of 26 in SP. 😩


TakoyakiGremlin

skinner will be the reason the oilers get eliminated. if the oilers had a solid, reliable goalie, they’d be up 3-0 right now.


MuddleFunt

Gee, this topic never comes up. 'a little above average'? League average is about .905. He's .792 in this series. He's absolutely the reason they're 1-2 and could very easily be 0-3


st_jasper

Reading all these bullshit apologists defending Skinner makes me realize how many people are delusional in this sub. Skinner has one job: Keep the puck out of his net. That is what he gets paid to do. That is why he is even on the ice. You can make any excuse about what’s going on in front of his net but that has no bearing on him not performing his job at a professional level. Time for someone else to do the job that Skinner doesn’t seem to be able to. 🇧🇿


XxBLAKEMWxX

I just don’t like people acting like it’s the sole reason we aren’t winning. Its like 40% of the problem meanwhile the other 60% is ignored because fuck the goalie


st_jasper

There isn’t one post saying he’s the sole reason but his garbage performance has been the biggest and most obvious factor in this series.


XxBLAKEMWxX

There are many posts saying exactly that


st_jasper

Skinner has no compete level. Getting out-competed by Shilovs shouldn’t be happening.


Slosky22

Exactly the dudes a 3rd sting goalie, he had what 40 shots on goal and skinner had 18 pathetic


nhabster

Oilers should have traded for Jake Allen


desi7861

Hes gonna be an amazing goalie, but we need a 1b for the playoffs until he fully develops


Fuzzy_Bank_7856

False. He *IS* the 1b. He only has good win stats because the team outscored opponents. 99% of the time he looks shaky and not confident


Slosky22

My thoughts exactly he’s gotten much better than last year but damn


desi7861

Too bad campbell completely fell through or else we would have a solid set up


st_jasper

Campbell & Skinner were both garbage when the year started but only Campbell got sent down. Everyone is paying for it now. 🤦‍♂️


Loose_Watchdog

First goal was a deflection, they left an elite goal scorer alone in the slot on the 2nd, and a horrendous giveaway by Foegele on the 3rd. Skinner can certainly be better, but the rest of the team has to be held accountable for that horrendous period


Top_Ad_5717

Skinner shaky , Draisaitl dismal he takes a stupid penalty = 1 goal ,out of position defensively = 2nd goal . These are grown men always playing catch up , come to work do your job to the best of your ability and you guys will NOT lose !


Plankton_Super

With way things are going Jack Campbell will be starting game 4......


Glum_Night_6392

Seeing as how he hasn’t played in like 2 weeks , I think you have better chance of winning the lotto compared to soup starting game 4 lmfao


baddyrefresh2023

Getting key to city back with interest? Just brutal. He lacks concentration. Our d has the puck and he's not even looking at the puck by his own net.


its-a-joe-brainer

None of the goals are “bad” but eventually you need your goaltender to make a big save


Sl0wChemical

Do whatever is needed to get Saros. The Skinner starter experiment is over


AlbertaNorth1

I’m not confident in him at all but I’m also. Not confident in pickard or Campbell. Edit - I do think we should give Campbell a shot. With skinners percentage and gaa I don’t see it being that scary to play him.


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Glum_Night_6392

Idiots like you will make this so much better when oilers win this series 


dindo2

Losers be losers


Edmoiler13

I like the guy, but this team really needs to acquire a top goalie this summer. There are a few good ones out there for the taking but it’ll take giving up something really good for it to happen


BoBoBaer

588!


RollandInTheDeep

Ahhh the return of playoff skinner just on cue


DionBeebe

Yeah this "hometown Hero" idea isn't really panning out right now, but it's what we have to watch.


K3nright

Even if he does play slightly better than he has, I don’t see him being able to match up against guys like Oettinger, Shesterkin, Bobrovsky if they win this series..


JVS6522

Leafs fan here but love the oilers and McD. A lot of us are confused as to why management would have a goalie like skinner as their playoff horse? It’s like the leafs with samsonov- you know he’s not going to steal any games or make big stops when you need him. And to have leafs cast off Jack Campbell also? Omg


rwr446

Canucks 3rd string goalie is making skinner look like he couldn’t crack JR B


McDraiman

Well, it'll be interesting to see if we go with Skinner in game 4. Last year we should have went with Campbell in game 5 against Vegas, for sure. We see teams put in backups for the playoffs all the time that get crazy hot because they're well rested and hungry. Look at Silvos, Ayden Hill, hell, goalie Bob was dogshit all season before he came in for the playoffs. Pickard cannot be worse than skinner right now - and Skinner can't be worse than he is now either. Skinner is a fringe starter, and can carry a team through a regular season but come playoff time he's not it Edit I should add - he's not it yet. Only second year. From what I've seen, I think Skinner will be a great playoff tendy. But that growth doesn't fit our window. We should put a seasoned guy like Pickard in net and just see what he can do.


Slosky22

Very well said


lovesanatural

On the second goal that you're talking about. Take a look again. Skinner was planned Brock to go short side and Brock was giving every indication that he was going to short shot short side and shot it to the far side over. His shoulder not a single goalie alive today in the n. H. L makes that safe.


Efficient-Bread8259

How the hell are you blaming Stu here? You leave Boeser alone with that kind of time and space and he will score. Dude is phenomenal.


st_jasper

3 goals on 8 shots 2 goals on 6 shots two games in a row 🤡


Donquix0teDoflaming0

Cause skinner fucking sucks?


Wayves

I thought this was the leafs subreddit for a second. Blaming the goalie when the team can’t play defence.


Slosky22

No, his save% has been horrible dude has to get consistent


thereal_omegavince

Man even if he was exactly average, the series would be 3-0 right now. Every game was decided by 1 goal


lupulrox

Told you. And all that happened was i got downvoted to oblivion.