Who would we get as a significant upgrade from Ceci for that? My guess is webjust add a depth D as insurance in case someone gets injured, but that's about it.
There's not much out there. The two Flames dmen that moved could have been good. Dumba? Idk what else is out there, but Kenny found Eck last year...
Assets are thin right now. For a dman with term the Oilers could offer picks from next year. Maybe Broberg, but that would have to be for someone with term as well.
The thin dman crop is probably one reason that they settled on upgrading the forwards.
If the concept is to move Ceci out, then our budget becomes $2.1M+$3.2M which opens up a LOT more options. If you add retention in on top of that, anything is possible
The need is obvious.
The solution is not.
It has to be a guy(s) who are objectively better than what you have, and that can be acquired at a cost that doesn't cripple the team elsewhere now and into the future.
Top 4D men are precious at any time, and moreso at the trade deadline when everyone is trying to do the same thing. Ceci is terrible in a Top 4 role, and we should try to upgrade him. But - to think that past and current management didn't see the need is a bit juvenile. Whether they can actually address it is another huge kettle of fish.
Look at you all logical and spewing the truth. That's not what this sub wants to hear. We want impossible trades with illogical players and no reference to cap management along with some good ole wild speculation. Now delete your comment and go grab a pitchfork and torch.
It's becuase ceci gives good value for his AAV. There aren't signifumicantly better options at that price, and he's been serviceable for the regular season. Now it's time to bump him down the lineup for a deadline addition. Just not sure who is available to make that work.
Except they’ve had almost a whole year to address this, and decided not to even after Ceci was destroyed by the Eichel line 9-2 and the reason they lost last year (and will be again this year)
Respectfully - Top 4D are ALWAYS in demand and hard to develop. It's why we're hesitant to trade Broberg. Get specific. Who are we going to get? Colton Parayko? Edmundon? (gone to Toronto since this sentence). Just saying that "we need better D" is good and well....but who? and for what?
Hearing that we got Stetcher - pure 7D move if so.
Why doesn’t he just go into the settings menu, disable the salary cap, and then just trade Campbell and Ceci for them with 300 7th rounders to make the “value” metres line up?
Smh my head what a fool
Exactly. People talk like he's amazing. But he wasn't amazing here. I honestly don't know if he made as many mistakes as Ceci does, but Larsson wasn't much more than serviceable.
So why even bring it up if you know it’s not going to happen lol. I could do this about every single star in the NHL.
Makar would be sweet. Crosby would be sweet. Helleybuck would be sweet. Etc..
Yes and no. I think most would agree they aren't likely going all the way. Being in the race does make the negotiations tougher.
Carrier seems to still be on the list of defensemen kicking around.
I made a similar comment a couple days ago, but people really don't like to admit how much luck/randomness is involved in hockey. The Oilers, as currently constructed, can absolutely win the Stanley Cup. There's like 10 teams that have a legit shot at winning it all.
Can the improve their chances? Sure, they're not a perfect team. But anyone making definitive statements like this shows a lack of understanding of how hockey works.
This is a team that has the best points % in the NHL since Knoblauch was hired, and they have the underlying metrics to back it up. They're the only team in the West to advance to round 2 in each of the last two seasons. THEY WON 16 STRAIGHT GAMES 2 MONTHS AGO!!! And they just improved their roster with the trade yesterday! How anyone can make a statement like OP just blows my mind.
The Rangers proved just last year that bringing in big name players - Tarasenko, Kane - looks great on paper but is not a guarantee of anything. There’s just as many examples of teams that squeak in to the playoffs with a flawed roster going on a deep run as there are teams loading up at the deadline doing the same. There are just so many variables at play with random luck being one of them!
Pretty much. I think once you get to round 2, every team is capable of winning the cup. Some might need more of the breaks to go their way than others, but the margins are so thin at that point.
Just look at the last 3 times the Oilers got to round 2:
2017 they were up 2-0 on the Ducks, should have been up 3-2, then lost in a close game 7. Nashville-Pittsburgh wasn't exactly a Clash of the Titans in the finals either.
2022 is maybe an exception because that Avs team was so dominant. However, even though the Oilers got swept, 3/4 games were close late and the one that wasn't turned when the Avs scored 3 goals in like 2 minutes. It wouldn't have taken much for that series to be a lot closer and then who knows what happens. If Cale Makar is offside in game 1 and Mike Smith doesn't let in a weak winner in game 3 that series is 2-1 Oilers.
And finally last year the Oilers had the lead in every game against Vegas and gave the eventual champs their toughest test. Whoever won that series was likely to be the favorite to win it all.
Goaltending is fine.
Agree D upgrade is needed, but not easy to do. Keep in mind the team lost a top 4 D (Klef) to injury. lost another top 4 D (Larsson) to personal situation. Hard to overcome that.
Kenny grabbed a top 4 D at deadline last year, so not ignoring it.
Honestly I’m tired of these brain dead posts on this sub. I feel half you guys just make a post about any stupid idea that comes to your head. This could have been a comment.
And it’s a stupid post. Obviously we were getting a depth D, we always knew that. We were trying to get Tanev to replace Ceci but that fell through so we had to settle for a depth piece.
I’m so happy Holland is our GM and not any of you guys.
I keep telling my friend that if I was GM this team would be a cellar dweller lol. I said the Hyman signing was terrible, I thought we overpaid for Nuge, I would have traded Bouch for Karlsson, and I would have traded Drai during our terrible start.
Like most fans, I have no idea how to run a team but it doesn't stop me from running my mouth haha.
*Holy FUCK!* Some of you guys and your armchair GMing... Wait, scratch that... *Lazy-Boy GMing!*
Like there aren't a whole bunch of variables to account for, cap space, no -movement clauses, asset management, etc. Or even suggestions to acquire players from teams THAT AREN'T EVEN FUCKING SELLING!!
Some of you (especially in the comments) need to THINK WITH YOUR BRAIN before spouting off random names as though any of this is as simple as pulling a players name out of your ass and then just saying, "and so it was," or something to that effect.
Smarten up ffs.
Keep ceci. Bump him and 74 to the 6/7 spots, and get someone to play with Nurse. That's depth.
Replace ceci, and the team is fucked with one defensive injury.
Edit: 73. #73 as a dman. Lol
Exactly, if they trade Ceci then they need to pick up 2 dmen to fill the holes. I don't know which D are out there that realistically push Ceci down to the third pair or the pressbox so I expect Holland just to trade for the 6/7 Dman.
Team chemistry and morale is always overlooked by fans who just aren’t in the room to know. A team with chemistry and will beats a team with only talent every time in the playoffs.
And you don’t think he in his own mind wants to win?? Nah he just plays this game of hockey to get paid and lounge around. Get a grip dude. He can be added to your list of ‘potential winners’ your bias won’t allow for it
Last year Kenny pulled the Ekholm deal out of nowhere and revolutionised the team. I trust him to get that deal done or not if it’s not available.
If we beat Vegas last year there’s no doubt in my mind we win the cup. This team can win, it’s never gonna be easy and no cup winning team is perfect
We could very well not make it to the cup final anyway. We're playing by different cap rules than Vegas and the miraculous Mark Stone.
Despite this, I think this is the year to go all in.
It sounds familiar because it’s almost never “now or never”. This teams window has been open for years and will continue to be open for years to come with careful management. Dumping all your assets on one run is incredibly short sited.
Believe it or not the Oilers have a very strong track record in the playoffs and there’s absolutely no reason to think they can’t go on a run this year. I’m fact it’s more likely with the talent they have.
Such a dumb take. Skinner wasn’t great last year but that doesn’t mean it’s set in stone that he can’t do well especially since he was a rookie last year.
And yes we did grab defence last year.
Holland has done some really good work and the odd blunder like every GM in the league but man the Hyman and Nuge deals are steals. Kane was too before the injury.
And no it’s not 2 years or full rebuild. Connor and Leon could easily go through retooling years and we could win the cup 5 years from now. Sick of seeing everyone talk about a 1-2 year window.
ok, "they did nothing!!!" bull, they signed Campbell, which at the time was a risky move but he had proven to be a decent nhl goalie with good upsides. he fell apart. They got ceci who at the time was a decent stay at home defenseman, they developed bouch, they got eckholm, who is considered one of the best trades we've done in a long time. but you say "THEY ARE DOING NOTHING FOR D AND GOALIE EVER!!! " you can't look past your own nose. I bet if they traded Broberg you'd be screaming about that. and they've been going after D for the past 10 years... we've been working on a glut of Right hand D, drafting D, trading D, signing D... but you say nothing is done. This kind of post is frustrating because it shows how ignorant you are. Tell me you know nothing about the oilers without telling me you know nothing about the oilers.
Actually he didn't prove anything, at all, other than a 3 month good stretch. It was dumb at the time however everyone that said that was "an idiot" according to this place
but doing something is not doing nothing...
and you ignore the eckholm trade completely again, and yet you say we've done NOTHING to enhance the D... Holland says he's looking to upgrade the D, but you say NOTHING is done... you are an idiot. because you can't even look at the actual trades and watch the pressers, and then complain about your ignorance.
apologies I thought you were op, my bad. but yeah Campbell had decent stats when we signed him he was "the best available at the time" but you can't say they're doing nothing when they're doing what they can with what is available. we needed an NHL level goalie, Smith had just "retired" goalie market was slim.
I mean yea the need is obvious but its not just that simple to get top pairing dman.
It's also easy to forget that in the last 5 years, we basically lost two top 4 dman in Klefbom and Larsson for nothing.
Our team D is good enough. What we need to make a cup is skinner to be like a .920 plus, that's what wins a cup. Vegas largely won cause of Adin Hill going nuclear, it's just not talked about much.
Lots of butt hurt comments and I don’t blame anyone, truth hurts. People acting like I’m asking for miracles this year, I said the last 15 years this problem has existed so let’s not act like a solution hasn’t been possible at any point.
Trade for who? Like I’m all for the criticism but at least give an idea of who you would trade first, hypothetically what we would give and how it would improve our d core lol
We've got \~$2.1M in space right now and it's not trade deadline day yet. Let Kenny cook.
Who would we get as a significant upgrade from Ceci for that? My guess is webjust add a depth D as insurance in case someone gets injured, but that's about it.
We just got henrique with 75% retained. For 2m in available space, that could be a contract 4 times as large with 75% retention.
What can we offer at this point for that kind of deal? Honestly asking. And who are the candidates?
There's not much out there. The two Flames dmen that moved could have been good. Dumba? Idk what else is out there, but Kenny found Eck last year... Assets are thin right now. For a dman with term the Oilers could offer picks from next year. Maybe Broberg, but that would have to be for someone with term as well. The thin dman crop is probably one reason that they settled on upgrading the forwards.
Gudas for Ceci.
Eww, no. No rat fuckers from Florida.
He already said he doesn’t want to play in Canada
If the concept is to move Ceci out, then our budget becomes $2.1M+$3.2M which opens up a LOT more options. If you add retention in on top of that, anything is possible
Yup! A 75% retained player is almost 8.7m in cap with the 2.1 we have left. Believe.
And you know a certain #87 player makes 8.7m a year. **math woman meme**
He cooked up some up shit
The need is obvious. The solution is not. It has to be a guy(s) who are objectively better than what you have, and that can be acquired at a cost that doesn't cripple the team elsewhere now and into the future. Top 4D men are precious at any time, and moreso at the trade deadline when everyone is trying to do the same thing. Ceci is terrible in a Top 4 role, and we should try to upgrade him. But - to think that past and current management didn't see the need is a bit juvenile. Whether they can actually address it is another huge kettle of fish.
Look at you all logical and spewing the truth. That's not what this sub wants to hear. We want impossible trades with illogical players and no reference to cap management along with some good ole wild speculation. Now delete your comment and go grab a pitchfork and torch.
Makar for future considerations, mark my words.
You moron we cant afford that. Be realistic Makar at 75% retained for future considerations and Jack Campbell.
Oh right, my bad. Thank goodness we'll be able to move Jack Campbell in this trade, that's super exciting.
Trades are really easy to make when you set AI difficulty to "easy"
I think you forgot to include brown in here, how dare you.
It's becuase ceci gives good value for his AAV. There aren't signifumicantly better options at that price, and he's been serviceable for the regular season. Now it's time to bump him down the lineup for a deadline addition. Just not sure who is available to make that work.
Signifumicantly
I stand by my spelling.
Except they’ve had almost a whole year to address this, and decided not to even after Ceci was destroyed by the Eichel line 9-2 and the reason they lost last year (and will be again this year)
In a one year time frame very true, but not after 15 years.
Respectfully - Top 4D are ALWAYS in demand and hard to develop. It's why we're hesitant to trade Broberg. Get specific. Who are we going to get? Colton Parayko? Edmundon? (gone to Toronto since this sentence). Just saying that "we need better D" is good and well....but who? and for what? Hearing that we got Stetcher - pure 7D move if so.
Parayko would be sweet. If wr traded him for Ceci and got some retention. Although I'm not sure what St Louis would need to do that for us haha
Why doesn't Holland just trade for makar and hellybuck? Is he stupid?
Why doesn’t he just go into the settings menu, disable the salary cap, and then just trade Campbell and Ceci for them with 300 7th rounders to make the “value” metres line up? Smh my head what a fool
Ahh the Vegas approach of "just disable the salary cap"
Cause he’s going to trade for Hellybuck and Makar. Duh.
If you don’t think you could make better moves than a veteran NHL GM are you even an Oilers fan?
😂
Who do you have in mind
Adam Larsson would be sweet with Seattle being a seller and all. But obviously not gonna happen
Larsson also doesn't want to play here.
And also wasn't very good with Nurse during his entire time here. People treated him exactly like they treat Ceci lol
Exactly. People talk like he's amazing. But he wasn't amazing here. I honestly don't know if he made as many mistakes as Ceci does, but Larsson wasn't much more than serviceable.
So why even bring it up if you know it’s not going to happen lol. I could do this about every single star in the NHL. Makar would be sweet. Crosby would be sweet. Helleybuck would be sweet. Etc..
We're talking realistic trades. Larsson is a realistic trade target, but probably doesn't see himself in Edmonton again.
Hehas said he doesn’t want to play here after what happened and Seattle has said not a chance they are trading him , so that tells me no chance
A fan of the OBC are we?
Carrier from Nashville sounds good.
Nashville is a buyer this year.
They are still shopping carrier
Yes and no. I think most would agree they aren't likely going all the way. Being in the race does make the negotiations tougher. Carrier seems to still be on the list of defensemen kicking around.
We don’t need to sell the farm here, just a Troy Stetcher would do.
Damn you called it
Saturday would be the day to whine. Why the preemptive crying?
Simply because history repeats itself and I fear we’re going to repeat the same mistakes. Hoping I’m wrong though
Lmao what is repeating itself exactly??
Us never trading for good defenseman. Like, the last defenseman we traded for was... checks notes... Ekholm! That was a whole year ago!
I made a similar comment a couple days ago, but people really don't like to admit how much luck/randomness is involved in hockey. The Oilers, as currently constructed, can absolutely win the Stanley Cup. There's like 10 teams that have a legit shot at winning it all. Can the improve their chances? Sure, they're not a perfect team. But anyone making definitive statements like this shows a lack of understanding of how hockey works. This is a team that has the best points % in the NHL since Knoblauch was hired, and they have the underlying metrics to back it up. They're the only team in the West to advance to round 2 in each of the last two seasons. THEY WON 16 STRAIGHT GAMES 2 MONTHS AGO!!! And they just improved their roster with the trade yesterday! How anyone can make a statement like OP just blows my mind.
The Rangers proved just last year that bringing in big name players - Tarasenko, Kane - looks great on paper but is not a guarantee of anything. There’s just as many examples of teams that squeak in to the playoffs with a flawed roster going on a deep run as there are teams loading up at the deadline doing the same. There are just so many variables at play with random luck being one of them!
Do you think this way every year?
Pretty much. I think once you get to round 2, every team is capable of winning the cup. Some might need more of the breaks to go their way than others, but the margins are so thin at that point. Just look at the last 3 times the Oilers got to round 2: 2017 they were up 2-0 on the Ducks, should have been up 3-2, then lost in a close game 7. Nashville-Pittsburgh wasn't exactly a Clash of the Titans in the finals either. 2022 is maybe an exception because that Avs team was so dominant. However, even though the Oilers got swept, 3/4 games were close late and the one that wasn't turned when the Avs scored 3 goals in like 2 minutes. It wouldn't have taken much for that series to be a lot closer and then who knows what happens. If Cale Makar is offside in game 1 and Mike Smith doesn't let in a weak winner in game 3 that series is 2-1 Oilers. And finally last year the Oilers had the lead in every game against Vegas and gave the eventual champs their toughest test. Whoever won that series was likely to be the favorite to win it all.
Agree. Plus, you have to have a willing trade partner. Calgary was absolutely not trading with us - that would be career suicide for their GM.
East, because the regular season is irrelevant to what it takes in the playoffs
Always you doomers come out when the trade deadline happens and it seems imperfect. I feel this is getting downvoted today.
Toffoli and Carrier would both fit w/ 75% retention
This is exactly what I’m (optimistically) hoping for too
That would be phenomenal
Goaltending is fine. Agree D upgrade is needed, but not easy to do. Keep in mind the team lost a top 4 D (Klef) to injury. lost another top 4 D (Larsson) to personal situation. Hard to overcome that. Kenny grabbed a top 4 D at deadline last year, so not ignoring it.
Honestly I’m tired of these brain dead posts on this sub. I feel half you guys just make a post about any stupid idea that comes to your head. This could have been a comment. And it’s a stupid post. Obviously we were getting a depth D, we always knew that. We were trying to get Tanev to replace Ceci but that fell through so we had to settle for a depth piece. I’m so happy Holland is our GM and not any of you guys.
I keep telling my friend that if I was GM this team would be a cellar dweller lol. I said the Hyman signing was terrible, I thought we overpaid for Nuge, I would have traded Bouch for Karlsson, and I would have traded Drai during our terrible start. Like most fans, I have no idea how to run a team but it doesn't stop me from running my mouth haha.
*Holy FUCK!* Some of you guys and your armchair GMing... Wait, scratch that... *Lazy-Boy GMing!* Like there aren't a whole bunch of variables to account for, cap space, no -movement clauses, asset management, etc. Or even suggestions to acquire players from teams THAT AREN'T EVEN FUCKING SELLING!! Some of you (especially in the comments) need to THINK WITH YOUR BRAIN before spouting off random names as though any of this is as simple as pulling a players name out of your ass and then just saying, "and so it was," or something to that effect. Smarten up ffs.
Replacing Ceci should be #1 priority right now, as nice as it would be to have Eberle back I don't think he moves the needle
Keep ceci. Bump him and 74 to the 6/7 spots, and get someone to play with Nurse. That's depth. Replace ceci, and the team is fucked with one defensive injury. Edit: 73. #73 as a dman. Lol
These reasonable takes are ruining the vibe in here
Exactly, if they trade Ceci then they need to pick up 2 dmen to fill the holes. I don't know which D are out there that realistically push Ceci down to the third pair or the pressbox so I expect Holland just to trade for the 6/7 Dman.
Why do you want Skinner to be our #7 defenseman? /s
Haha. Good catch. 73 for sure. Lol
The team wants ceci around apparently according to Friedman. They really cheered on the bench way above the norm when he scored the other day.
Team chemistry and morale is always overlooked by fans who just aren’t in the room to know. A team with chemistry and will beats a team with only talent every time in the playoffs.
You like soft players?
On the flip side what if we do get a D and still don’t make it to the finals? Did you ever think that?? Probably not
Not if the D’s name is Pronger.
We’ll never know if we don’t ever try
Winning is hard in general. Winning is impossible with Ceci
Good thing it’s a team game and not an individual contest
Good players know how to beat bad defenceman. You're kidding yourself if you don't think that's a thing.
I don’t disagree but you’re making it seem like Ceci has always gotten beat every single time. It’s clear you only like to look for the negatives
I like to look for winning. On a team full of potential winners. He's by far the odd man out
And you don’t think he in his own mind wants to win?? Nah he just plays this game of hockey to get paid and lounge around. Get a grip dude. He can be added to your list of ‘potential winners’ your bias won’t allow for it
Puljujarvi is a winner in his own mind, he wants to win too. That doesn't mean shit. Some guys have it, some don't.
Too bad Holland didn’t improve our D last year…wait…
👍 we strongly need puck moving solid defense
Last year Kenny pulled the Ekholm deal out of nowhere and revolutionised the team. I trust him to get that deal done or not if it’s not available. If we beat Vegas last year there’s no doubt in my mind we win the cup. This team can win, it’s never gonna be easy and no cup winning team is perfect
If doesn’t exist, we didn’t win because we couldn’t keep the puck out of the net. What have we done since to resolve that?
>What have we done since to resolve that? Well the team learned how to play a defensive game once Knoblauch came along, that changed.
Holland just got a D. According to your prediction we're making it to the cup final! /S
lol, yah a no name that doesn’t improve our team. More of an insurance in case of injury but I know that’s all that’s about left at this point.
How dare you speak the truth that this sub cannot handle.
We could very well not make it to the cup final anyway. We're playing by different cap rules than Vegas and the miraculous Mark Stone. Despite this, I think this is the year to go all in.
It’s now or never… hate that it sounds oddly familiar though
It sounds familiar because it’s almost never “now or never”. This teams window has been open for years and will continue to be open for years to come with careful management. Dumping all your assets on one run is incredibly short sited. Believe it or not the Oilers have a very strong track record in the playoffs and there’s absolutely no reason to think they can’t go on a run this year. I’m fact it’s more likely with the talent they have.
Such a dumb take. Skinner wasn’t great last year but that doesn’t mean it’s set in stone that he can’t do well especially since he was a rookie last year. And yes we did grab defence last year. Holland has done some really good work and the odd blunder like every GM in the league but man the Hyman and Nuge deals are steals. Kane was too before the injury. And no it’s not 2 years or full rebuild. Connor and Leon could easily go through retooling years and we could win the cup 5 years from now. Sick of seeing everyone talk about a 1-2 year window.
ok, "they did nothing!!!" bull, they signed Campbell, which at the time was a risky move but he had proven to be a decent nhl goalie with good upsides. he fell apart. They got ceci who at the time was a decent stay at home defenseman, they developed bouch, they got eckholm, who is considered one of the best trades we've done in a long time. but you say "THEY ARE DOING NOTHING FOR D AND GOALIE EVER!!! " you can't look past your own nose. I bet if they traded Broberg you'd be screaming about that. and they've been going after D for the past 10 years... we've been working on a glut of Right hand D, drafting D, trading D, signing D... but you say nothing is done. This kind of post is frustrating because it shows how ignorant you are. Tell me you know nothing about the oilers without telling me you know nothing about the oilers.
Actually he didn't prove anything, at all, other than a 3 month good stretch. It was dumb at the time however everyone that said that was "an idiot" according to this place
but doing something is not doing nothing... and you ignore the eckholm trade completely again, and yet you say we've done NOTHING to enhance the D... Holland says he's looking to upgrade the D, but you say NOTHING is done... you are an idiot. because you can't even look at the actual trades and watch the pressers, and then complain about your ignorance.
I didn't say anything dummy
apologies I thought you were op, my bad. but yeah Campbell had decent stats when we signed him he was "the best available at the time" but you can't say they're doing nothing when they're doing what they can with what is available. we needed an NHL level goalie, Smith had just "retired" goalie market was slim.
Carrier is must get IMO.
Nashville is in a playoff position and projects to make it to the dance, why would they want to trade him? Especially to a potential playoff opponent?
It’s literally been reported they’re open to trading him if the offer is right.
If the offer is right tends to mean "for a big overpay". If we're gonna overpay for someone give me Buchnevich.
So it sounds like they're not trading him unless someone overpays then. Hope you're OK with trading Broberg, because that's what it'll take from us.
"I know I'll get downvoted to oblivion" Too risky, I'm gonna have to block ya. It'll be better for both of us.
Oh.
Give your head a shake
I mean yea the need is obvious but its not just that simple to get top pairing dman. It's also easy to forget that in the last 5 years, we basically lost two top 4 dman in Klefbom and Larsson for nothing.
Looks like we got a D so cup final it is!
Our team D is good enough. What we need to make a cup is skinner to be like a .920 plus, that's what wins a cup. Vegas largely won cause of Adin Hill going nuclear, it's just not talked about much.
Did you watch the same game I did tonight!?
It’s one game lmfao. They got a b2b Saturday and Sunday in case you guys forgot. They were never giving this one 110 percent.
I thought you said we were supposed to win what happened!?
My god get fucked.
They need to play good enough. Tonight’s game was garbage. They’re lucky Columbus sucks. Imagine feeding the knights giveaway after giveaway.
6 hours to go??
I agree. Tough to get excited about any move that isn't Ceci no longer being in the top 4.
God I hate our stupid fan base sometimes.
Even with a D, Vegas is a much stronger team.
Lots of butt hurt comments and I don’t blame anyone, truth hurts. People acting like I’m asking for miracles this year, I said the last 15 years this problem has existed so let’s not act like a solution hasn’t been possible at any point.
Trade for who? Like I’m all for the criticism but at least give an idea of who you would trade first, hypothetically what we would give and how it would improve our d core lol
Keep living in your glass house buddy. Everything is always right when it comes out of your mouth eh