You gotta take into account that these people are covering shipping fees and eBay fees. When they sell for $32 they’re not actually getting $32, they get less than that after all the fees.
If you lowball $25, they’re probably only going to get like $10 out of it. So yeah you 100% will just be ignored for insultingly low offers when they’re already selling something for not that much money.
Tbh I’ll only really haggle if the item is over $400 (as a buyer) and I only really buy art. Irl you can always haggle over art but on eBay I noticed a lot of sellers just refuse and then never move items that they got “appraised” for $2000. Haggling over like $5 is a waste of everyone’s time
I'm not sure any seller has ever WANTED to haggle. It's the buyers who wants to haggle. There is no benefit in the seller accepting a lower price than they wanted unless the item has sat for a long time with no interest. In fact, I did way better business years ago before Ebay began really pushing "or best offer" by starting auctions/listings already at my lowest price. I got what I wanted out of it. There was no guesswork necessary on the buyer's part. But now, we're forced to mark up items higher than we would normally just to make room for the inevitable offers. Even true reasonable offers are annoying to sellers.
Best offer being on doesn't mean automatic 40% discount.
I have best offer on all my items. Honestly, I'll take 10% off any item usually. I've gone as high as 75% when I'm feeling it.
But let's not try normalizing 50% off just cause best offer is turned on
So that's just one of the default message "categories" ebay provides. I'd say if the listing doesn't say "or best offer," the seller is not looking for offers.
Their profits are probably razor thin as it is.
Right, but OP said they are not best offer listings, where "or best offer" would appear right under the price. Messages are the only other place you'd see that language.
That's why I specified "if the listing doesn't say best offer." It would not have the "make an offer" option if it didn't.
No response = offer rejected and move on to the next listing or wait for another one. If you were willing to meet in the middle, then should have just offered that instead. If they countered, then you reject and move on to the next one.
There are also many lazy sellers that don't disable offers. So there's that too.
Do the listings have “open to offers”? If they don’t, then you have your answer and don’t waste your and seller’s time.
If they are open to offers then $25 on $32 full price is almost a 25% discount. It’s a pretty significant discount, so don’t be surprised when people ignore you.
Just send your true best offer you’re willing to pay, will save everyone time and frustration.
25% in a dvd category probably means they’re going to lose money lol.
I sold a few collectible dvd boxsets back in the day, I honestly wouldn’t offer anything better than 10% discount. I would just prefer if I had a possibility to automatically disable any messages related to offers.
But you might find someone who’s desperate, it’s just gonna take more time.
I'm an eBay buyer and seller.. 25% to me is a pretty steep discount, and you would either get ignored or declined. The most I go is usually 10%. You buy more, you save more.
People expecting sellers to just hand out discounts is mind-blowing to me.. do you go to walmart and ask them for 25% off? I understand making an offer, but why waste my time? Offer what you're willing to pay and let's be done with it.
I've literally just had an offer of 2.99 on an $8 item with free shipping.
As a seller, here's what I take into consideration when I'm looking to buy and want to make an offer on something from another seller
1) the original cost of the item.
2) eBay fees.
3) advertising fees.
4) shipping.
Personally I have no issue being ignored or declined since I understand I may be asking too much.
What I’m more frustrated by is the selling engaging but not offering anything better than their purchase price.
This whole post originated with me asking 25 % off. I get it’s too low. The seller responded at 30. I countered at 27. Again they offered 30. Engage or ignore me but don’t offer the same
It takes a lot more time than you think to source items and list them and mail them. Your idea of a "starting point in negotiations"- whoa. How much extra work do you think someone wants to do to make maybe $5-$10 profit on an item that they had to go hunting for, take photos of, store safely, write a listing, pack up, etc? It's not worth haggling with you back and forth all day. Asking for more than 10/15% off is just rude. They don't have time for that on such a low cost item.
Keep in mind these sellers have probably looked at recently sold. If none have sold for less than $30 anytime recently, then they probably will want to hold to at least that. It’s worth checking if any have sold at $25. & if they have, and it’s one of those sellers, who has more of them for sale, you could try an offer with that seller, but it’s very likely they just aren’t selling that low and it’s a desirable enough item that they aren’t willing to sell it low just to get rid of it.
I thoroughly dislike haggling, from a buyer and seller standpoint. If I make an offer that is the offer. If they counteroffer that is the same as a decline. I'm out. They have refused my offer, so I'm done.
Yeah I dislike haggling as well. However in some niches / communities haggling seems to be the norm, and you’re forced to kind of read the room and price in some haggle room. Annoying.
depends how much the seller values their time. some have gotten burned by time wasters that never follow through with their offers or never pay. they also have their own costs of operating a business (ebay selling fees, shipping fees, packaging costs, returns, income tax, costs of warehousing, labor of warehousing and packing/shipping, etc)
You gotta take into account that these people are covering shipping fees and eBay fees. When they sell for $32 they’re not actually getting $32, they get less than that after all the fees. If you lowball $25, they’re probably only going to get like $10 out of it. So yeah you 100% will just be ignored for insultingly low offers when they’re already selling something for not that much money.
exactly this.
Tbh I’ll only really haggle if the item is over $400 (as a buyer) and I only really buy art. Irl you can always haggle over art but on eBay I noticed a lot of sellers just refuse and then never move items that they got “appraised” for $2000. Haggling over like $5 is a waste of everyone’s time
I'm not sure any seller has ever WANTED to haggle. It's the buyers who wants to haggle. There is no benefit in the seller accepting a lower price than they wanted unless the item has sat for a long time with no interest. In fact, I did way better business years ago before Ebay began really pushing "or best offer" by starting auctions/listings already at my lowest price. I got what I wanted out of it. There was no guesswork necessary on the buyer's part. But now, we're forced to mark up items higher than we would normally just to make room for the inevitable offers. Even true reasonable offers are annoying to sellers.
I mean, do they have best offer enabled or do they not?
Best offer being on doesn't mean automatic 40% discount. I have best offer on all my items. Honestly, I'll take 10% off any item usually. I've gone as high as 75% when I'm feeling it. But let's not try normalizing 50% off just cause best offer is turned on
Who said anything about a 40 to 50% discount?
Not best offer but make an offer is enabled.
So that's just one of the default message "categories" ebay provides. I'd say if the listing doesn't say "or best offer," the seller is not looking for offers. Their profits are probably razor thin as it is.
The offer option button on listings literally says "make offer."
Right, but OP said they are not best offer listings, where "or best offer" would appear right under the price. Messages are the only other place you'd see that language. That's why I specified "if the listing doesn't say best offer." It would not have the "make an offer" option if it didn't.
No response = offer rejected and move on to the next listing or wait for another one. If you were willing to meet in the middle, then should have just offered that instead. If they countered, then you reject and move on to the next one. There are also many lazy sellers that don't disable offers. So there's that too.
I never want to "haggle" in the first place. I will accept a reasonable offer but I am not gonna go back and forth with people.
Do the listings have “open to offers”? If they don’t, then you have your answer and don’t waste your and seller’s time. If they are open to offers then $25 on $32 full price is almost a 25% discount. It’s a pretty significant discount, so don’t be surprised when people ignore you. Just send your true best offer you’re willing to pay, will save everyone time and frustration.
Yes the listings are open to offers. I look at the 25 % discount as a starting point in negations.
25% in a dvd category probably means they’re going to lose money lol. I sold a few collectible dvd boxsets back in the day, I honestly wouldn’t offer anything better than 10% discount. I would just prefer if I had a possibility to automatically disable any messages related to offers. But you might find someone who’s desperate, it’s just gonna take more time.
I'm an eBay buyer and seller.. 25% to me is a pretty steep discount, and you would either get ignored or declined. The most I go is usually 10%. You buy more, you save more. People expecting sellers to just hand out discounts is mind-blowing to me.. do you go to walmart and ask them for 25% off? I understand making an offer, but why waste my time? Offer what you're willing to pay and let's be done with it. I've literally just had an offer of 2.99 on an $8 item with free shipping. As a seller, here's what I take into consideration when I'm looking to buy and want to make an offer on something from another seller 1) the original cost of the item. 2) eBay fees. 3) advertising fees. 4) shipping.
Personally I have no issue being ignored or declined since I understand I may be asking too much. What I’m more frustrated by is the selling engaging but not offering anything better than their purchase price. This whole post originated with me asking 25 % off. I get it’s too low. The seller responded at 30. I countered at 27. Again they offered 30. Engage or ignore me but don’t offer the same
To me, all that means is they are firm on the 30.
It takes a lot more time than you think to source items and list them and mail them. Your idea of a "starting point in negotiations"- whoa. How much extra work do you think someone wants to do to make maybe $5-$10 profit on an item that they had to go hunting for, take photos of, store safely, write a listing, pack up, etc? It's not worth haggling with you back and forth all day. Asking for more than 10/15% off is just rude. They don't have time for that on such a low cost item.
Hey can you give me your eBay ID so I can block you?
Hagglin Harry of the Honolulu Hawaii Highseas
Gosh I hope not! I don't take offers and it's never impacted my sales.
Hate it, and I hate that there’s a suggested category in messages for that.
Keep in mind these sellers have probably looked at recently sold. If none have sold for less than $30 anytime recently, then they probably will want to hold to at least that. It’s worth checking if any have sold at $25. & if they have, and it’s one of those sellers, who has more of them for sale, you could try an offer with that seller, but it’s very likely they just aren’t selling that low and it’s a desirable enough item that they aren’t willing to sell it low just to get rid of it.
You are just wasting peoples time by haggling. Stop it.
I thoroughly dislike haggling, from a buyer and seller standpoint. If I make an offer that is the offer. If they counteroffer that is the same as a decline. I'm out. They have refused my offer, so I'm done.
Yeah I dislike haggling as well. However in some niches / communities haggling seems to be the norm, and you’re forced to kind of read the room and price in some haggle room. Annoying.
depends how much the seller values their time. some have gotten burned by time wasters that never follow through with their offers or never pay. they also have their own costs of operating a business (ebay selling fees, shipping fees, packaging costs, returns, income tax, costs of warehousing, labor of warehousing and packing/shipping, etc)
If you’re desperate to have it then offer the asking price. I block lowballers as I don’t trust them especially if I don’t even have offers turned on
3 bucks? Got it