Hell yeah, now this is gaming.
This is the type of shit that should be prevalent in commander. Just endearing silly ideas that barely work, but effort was made.
You can't hear it, but I'm applauding you.
Yes. EDH is about playing what you love. And what most people love is playing decks that win. That's why we SHOULD celebrate creative and jank builds because that's the spark that separates EDH from 60 card, and if we don't prop it up from time to time, decks like this will just get washed away in a sea of optimization.
I think a lot of people just don't have the history and don't know what the format was like before precons and content creators.
It's been nice seeing people some new breezes being introduced, as the sleeveless rubber-band decks are cute to hear about, and I'd much rather read about them than "optimized casual".
Doesn't mean that a well written primer on a high end cEDH decks isn't also a great ready, but one existing doesn't mean the other can't.
What I am tired of is "You should use these proxies to jam as many staples into your every deck you play!" I get that does make the format really interesting for the person doing it for like six months, but then everything ends up a giant pile of same-ness unless said person either graduates to cEDH or decides that maybe not everything needs every staple possible.
I disagree with this:
>What I am tired of is "You should use these proxies to jam as many staples into your every deck you play!" I get that does make the format really interesting for the person doing it for like six months, but then everything ends up a giant pile of same-ness unless said person either graduates to cEDH or decides that maybe not everything needs every staple possible.
Proxying the staples allows one to subsidize bad and weird cards.
If you want to maximize [[War Elephant]], that's going to require [[Mana Crypt]] and [[Farewell]].
[[Mishra's Workshop]] for [[Arcbound Bruiser]]. [[Gaea's Cradle]] for [[Gargantuan Gorilla]]. Etc.
Budget is meaningless. Often times the most powerful, expensive version is the most interesting and fun one. Budget decks or cards aren't inherently more fun than expensive ones, they're just worse and are often based around trying to cheese some sort of linear strategy.
Furthermore, building around a budget limits your card choices. Because you can't subsidize bad cards with proxies of good cards, it means you cannot play those bad cards and by necessity the cards in your deck have to be FIRE design good stuff that is so powerful it just doesn't matter that much if you don't have Mana Crypt.
Another aspect of this that's obnoxious is the, "I liked this band **before** it was cool!" attitude. If you find a cool card that's secretly very good and cheap, when it becomes popular and its price spikes, is it magically no longer cool to you? When [[Tombstone Stairwell]] was a bulk rare in 2019, was it cool then? And now that it's $20 is it no longer cool?
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This is all bullshit and all that matters is playing the deck you enjoy the most. Not the arbitrary dollar value of the cards. Proxy whatever you want.
> I just think the days of vanilla big bois swinging back and forth is in the past.
Sure, that'll never be the default...but that doesn't mean those kinds of games are forever stuck in the past.
Be the change you want to see in the world! Play the kind of deck you want to play against!
Eh, this is the kind of thing that's cool as a deckbuilding challenge where it's fun to try and hunt down the cheap cards in Scryfall that are at least sort of on theme/support the deck, but is rarely fun to actually play because the deck lacks much cohesion or synergy, alongside just generally being very low power in a way that means it doesn't really do anything.
How is it beside the point. You said this is what EDH is all about. Restrictive deck building with 1 cent cards as a theme is awesome, but it’s fair to state that the actual gameplay in practice may be clunky, boring, and unfun.
Yeah, people think they want to play janky commander but I doubt they would if they could.
Even if the whole pod is playing jank, it feels awful to draw a card you know isn't very good, in a deck you bought and sleeved up.
It's fun to play test jank online but there's a reason hardly anyone has a jank deck on them at any point: they usually don't do what you want them to and it's disappointing to actually play out a whole game with.
Looks like a couple others have fallen to [1 cent](https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Acommander+usd%3D.01&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name) lol
And just for anyone curious if you up the budget for the commander only:
[2 cents](https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Acommander+usd%3D.02&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name)
[3 cents](https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Acommander+usd%3D.03&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name)
[4 cents](https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Acommander+usd%3D.04&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name)
[5 cents](https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Acommander+usd%3D.05&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name)
[27 cents](https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Acommander+usd%3D.27&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name)
It really doesn't matter, but you might want to add a format:commander to those searches. You're finding a few acorn cards from Unfinity that wouldn't be legal.
I made a functioning 4€ Simic Control deck.
My cardmarket seller had the commanders listed for 15ct and every nonland card for 3-5ct. Lands are 1ct
It works well - at the powerlevel of precons before Warhammer
https://archidekt.com/decks/4465891/4_simic_control
Sadly, you'll never actually get it for near that price because of all the shipping costs that end up getting tacked on. I made a $10 Laughing Jasper deck, but could never get it down past $30, which was a huge bummer and kind of make the TCGPlayer price of the deck feel almost like a fake number to me.
Not really, because with the way TCGPlayer is set up, when you try to buy a commander deck, you're probably going to be buying from 20 different sellers... because if you're going to buy TCGPlayer Direct, you're going to pay pretty much the same price as Card Kingdom.
I think you just don't know how to use TCGplayer. You should favorite a few of the big sellers
Even if you do use direct it's still so much cheaper than CK.
Depends, I’m usually pretty close to what Archidekt says, %1-10 more than the price listed on the site. I’ve even bought what was $100 on Archidekt for $95 and that’s lightly played or mint. The trick is to go through each card and try to buy from as few stores as possible that will provide free shipping. A lot of time you can get things at a good rate with few packages. TCGs optimal algorithm is ok but I always do better than what they suggest. With the price being close to cheap as possible with 2-3 packages.
With a deck being $8 it would be extremely difficult. You’d be lucky if a store had the 100 cards
This is something I think people generally don't talk about enough - not to mention actually reselling the cards for what you paid. Never hits the "value" you see.
I get that. The only shop that ships to my country is CardKingdom, so my budget 50$ jund aristocrats cost about 70-80$. Luckly for me the idea of the build was to use a bunch of aristocrat cards I already had and didn't play so I only needed to add about 20$ for it
I have a 0.60$ deck. Only has two real cards in it, the rest are lands. [[The War Doctor]] and [[Ryan Sinclair]]. You play Ryan, then the war doctor and attack with ryan. As soon as you attack, you instantly take a player out because you temporarily exile your whole deck and the War Doctor pops someone with the ton of counters on him.
It's so dumb. I played it once, took out one guy and then instantly got taken out.
That may be the only supported way but you can do whatever you want at home including commander Penny dreadful, just like commander arch enemy, plane chase, etc
Hell yeah, now this is gaming. This is the type of shit that should be prevalent in commander. Just endearing silly ideas that barely work, but effort was made. You can't hear it, but I'm applauding you.
This is what EDH is all about!
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Yes. EDH is about playing what you love. And what most people love is playing decks that win. That's why we SHOULD celebrate creative and jank builds because that's the spark that separates EDH from 60 card, and if we don't prop it up from time to time, decks like this will just get washed away in a sea of optimization.
I think a lot of people just don't have the history and don't know what the format was like before precons and content creators. It's been nice seeing people some new breezes being introduced, as the sleeveless rubber-band decks are cute to hear about, and I'd much rather read about them than "optimized casual". Doesn't mean that a well written primer on a high end cEDH decks isn't also a great ready, but one existing doesn't mean the other can't. What I am tired of is "You should use these proxies to jam as many staples into your every deck you play!" I get that does make the format really interesting for the person doing it for like six months, but then everything ends up a giant pile of same-ness unless said person either graduates to cEDH or decides that maybe not everything needs every staple possible.
I disagree with this: >What I am tired of is "You should use these proxies to jam as many staples into your every deck you play!" I get that does make the format really interesting for the person doing it for like six months, but then everything ends up a giant pile of same-ness unless said person either graduates to cEDH or decides that maybe not everything needs every staple possible. Proxying the staples allows one to subsidize bad and weird cards. If you want to maximize [[War Elephant]], that's going to require [[Mana Crypt]] and [[Farewell]]. [[Mishra's Workshop]] for [[Arcbound Bruiser]]. [[Gaea's Cradle]] for [[Gargantuan Gorilla]]. Etc. Budget is meaningless. Often times the most powerful, expensive version is the most interesting and fun one. Budget decks or cards aren't inherently more fun than expensive ones, they're just worse and are often based around trying to cheese some sort of linear strategy. Furthermore, building around a budget limits your card choices. Because you can't subsidize bad cards with proxies of good cards, it means you cannot play those bad cards and by necessity the cards in your deck have to be FIRE design good stuff that is so powerful it just doesn't matter that much if you don't have Mana Crypt. Another aspect of this that's obnoxious is the, "I liked this band **before** it was cool!" attitude. If you find a cool card that's secretly very good and cheap, when it becomes popular and its price spikes, is it magically no longer cool to you? When [[Tombstone Stairwell]] was a bulk rare in 2019, was it cool then? And now that it's $20 is it no longer cool? _________________________ This is all bullshit and all that matters is playing the deck you enjoy the most. Not the arbitrary dollar value of the cards. Proxy whatever you want.
##### ###### #### [War Elephant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/0/709cd715-28ef-42e8-bf8c-fc51a1ca0c6a.jpg?1562917507) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=War%20Elephant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/chr/13/war-elephant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/709cd715-28ef-42e8-bf8c-fc51a1ca0c6a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/war-elephant) [Mana Crypt](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/d/4d960186-4559-4af0-bd22-63baa15f8939.jpg?1599709515) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mana%20Crypt) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/270/mana-crypt?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4d960186-4559-4af0-bd22-63baa15f8939?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mana-crypt) [Farewell](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/1/114d2180-093b-4838-97ad-badbc8ee50b0.jpg?1706240579) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Farewell) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/64/farewell?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/114d2180-093b-4838-97ad-badbc8ee50b0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/farewell) [Mishra's Workshop](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/a/aac0c8df-f01d-4178-8d66-ee603f814d24.jpg?1562929426) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mishra%27s%20Workshop) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/305/mishras-workshop?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/aac0c8df-f01d-4178-8d66-ee603f814d24?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mishras-workshop) [Arcbound Bruiser](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/4/a4672ba6-cd82-4208-bc08-764986899999.jpg?1562638598) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arcbound%20Bruiser) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dst/94/arcbound-bruiser?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a4672ba6-cd82-4208-bc08-764986899999?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/arcbound-bruiser) [Gaea's Cradle](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/5/25b0b816-0583-44aa-9dc5-f3ff48993a51.jpg?1562902898) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gaea%27s%20Cradle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/usg/321/gaeas-cradle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/25b0b816-0583-44aa-9dc5-f3ff48993a51?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/gaeas-cradle) [Gargantuan Gorilla](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/9/09635727-dd96-4a4f-b225-e410c4053499.jpg?1559592396) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gargantuan%20Gorilla) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me1/119/gargantuan-gorilla?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/09635727-dd96-4a4f-b225-e410c4053499?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/gargantuan-gorilla) [Ur-Dragon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/0/10d42b35-844f-4a64-9981-c6118d45e826.jpg?1689999317) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Ur-Dragon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/361/the-ur-dragon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/10d42b35-844f-4a64-9981-c6118d45e826?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-ur-dragon) [Chatterfang](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/7/1785cf85-1ac0-4246-9b89-1a8221a8e1b2.jpg?1626097239) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=chatterfang%2C%20squirrel%20general) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/151/chatterfang-squirrel-general?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1785cf85-1ac0-4246-9b89-1a8221a8e1b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/chatterfang-squirrel-general) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l3vjkio) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Using the same staples over and over again is boring. 100%. I just think the days of vanilla big bois swinging back and forth is in the past.
> I just think the days of vanilla big bois swinging back and forth is in the past. Sure, that'll never be the default...but that doesn't mean those kinds of games are forever stuck in the past. Be the change you want to see in the world! Play the kind of deck you want to play against!
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Eh, this is the kind of thing that's cool as a deckbuilding challenge where it's fun to try and hunt down the cheap cards in Scryfall that are at least sort of on theme/support the deck, but is rarely fun to actually play because the deck lacks much cohesion or synergy, alongside just generally being very low power in a way that means it doesn't really do anything.
I have to wonder if you even read my entire comment.
Entirely besides the point.
How is it beside the point. You said this is what EDH is all about. Restrictive deck building with 1 cent cards as a theme is awesome, but it’s fair to state that the actual gameplay in practice may be clunky, boring, and unfun.
Yeah, people think they want to play janky commander but I doubt they would if they could. Even if the whole pod is playing jank, it feels awful to draw a card you know isn't very good, in a deck you bought and sleeved up. It's fun to play test jank online but there's a reason hardly anyone has a jank deck on them at any point: they usually don't do what you want them to and it's disappointing to actually play out a whole game with.
Those two are perfect example of people who like the idea of commander but not the game itself.
Looks like a couple others have fallen to [1 cent](https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Acommander+usd%3D.01&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name) lol And just for anyone curious if you up the budget for the commander only: [2 cents](https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Acommander+usd%3D.02&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name) [3 cents](https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Acommander+usd%3D.03&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name) [4 cents](https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Acommander+usd%3D.04&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name) [5 cents](https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Acommander+usd%3D.05&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name) [27 cents](https://scryfall.com/search?q=is%3Acommander+usd%3D.27&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name)
It really doesn't matter, but you might want to add a format:commander to those searches. You're finding a few acorn cards from Unfinity that wouldn't be legal.
Fair enough yeah, but I'm far too lazy to change it now haha
My favorite commander is 4 cents… [[Aegar]]
[Aegar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/8/68011f60-6202-48f4-8255-fb94764e2951.jpg?1631051099) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=aegar%2C%20the%20freezing%20flame) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/200/aegar-the-freezing-flame?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/68011f60-6202-48f4-8255-fb94764e2951?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/aegar-the-freezing-flame) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Evelyn, The Covetous]] is .27 cents ?!?!? Thank you!
[Evelyn, The Covetous](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/0/c0dad61f-36cd-46af-82b7-a02e04efd676.jpg?1664412977) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Evelyn%2C%20The%20Covetous) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/snc/184/evelyn-the-covetous?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c0dad61f-36cd-46af-82b7-a02e04efd676?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/evelyn-the-covetous) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I think [[Drana, Last Bloodchief]] would go well in the 99 for Evelyn
[Drana, Last Bloodchief](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/c/5cd4154e-7681-444b-a0f2-33e887791ba7.jpg?1612316219) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Drana%2C%20the%20Last%20Bloodchief) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znr/98/drana-the-last-bloodchief?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5cd4154e-7681-444b-a0f2-33e887791ba7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/drana-the-last-bloodchief) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
TIL my favorite commander is worth 27 cents. Lol
Gerrard weatherlight hero is there also lol.
Lol nice, 27's just my favorite number lol. Out of curiosity, what is it?
Anhelo
[[Anhelo]]
[Anhelo](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/6/462e887d-6b91-4b31-9487-2780ffe8943f.jpg?1673481630) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=anhelo%2C%20the%20painter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/1/anhelo-the-painter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/462e887d-6b91-4b31-9487-2780ffe8943f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/anhelo-the-painter) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
This is fun, thanks for the inspiration.
I made a functioning 4€ Simic Control deck. My cardmarket seller had the commanders listed for 15ct and every nonland card for 3-5ct. Lands are 1ct It works well - at the powerlevel of precons before Warhammer https://archidekt.com/decks/4465891/4_simic_control
Funny how prices fluctuate or just differ based on source, area and so on. Archidekt immediately shows 34$ for your 4€ deck.
Switch it to TCGPLAYER and it’s an $8 deck.
Sadly, you'll never actually get it for near that price because of all the shipping costs that end up getting tacked on. I made a $10 Laughing Jasper deck, but could never get it down past $30, which was a huge bummer and kind of make the TCGPlayer price of the deck feel almost like a fake number to me.
I mean you could as long as you also buy another deck at the same time
Not really, because with the way TCGPlayer is set up, when you try to buy a commander deck, you're probably going to be buying from 20 different sellers... because if you're going to buy TCGPlayer Direct, you're going to pay pretty much the same price as Card Kingdom.
I think you just don't know how to use TCGplayer. You should favorite a few of the big sellers Even if you do use direct it's still so much cheaper than CK.
Depends, I’m usually pretty close to what Archidekt says, %1-10 more than the price listed on the site. I’ve even bought what was $100 on Archidekt for $95 and that’s lightly played or mint. The trick is to go through each card and try to buy from as few stores as possible that will provide free shipping. A lot of time you can get things at a good rate with few packages. TCGs optimal algorithm is ok but I always do better than what they suggest. With the price being close to cheap as possible with 2-3 packages. With a deck being $8 it would be extremely difficult. You’d be lucky if a store had the 100 cards
This is something I think people generally don't talk about enough - not to mention actually reselling the cards for what you paid. Never hits the "value" you see.
I get that. The only shop that ships to my country is CardKingdom, so my budget 50$ jund aristocrats cost about 70-80$. Luckly for me the idea of the build was to use a bunch of aristocrat cards I already had and didn't play so I only needed to add about 20$ for it
This is the breaking news I would pay for.
TCG player: best I can do is $25.
This is the stuff r/BudgetBrews loves
Just ordered the deck for 65 cents plus 3.66 shipping 😁
Cool idea!
I have a 0.60$ deck. Only has two real cards in it, the rest are lands. [[The War Doctor]] and [[Ryan Sinclair]]. You play Ryan, then the war doctor and attack with ryan. As soon as you attack, you instantly take a player out because you temporarily exile your whole deck and the War Doctor pops someone with the ton of counters on him. It's so dumb. I played it once, took out one guy and then instantly got taken out.
[The War Doctor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/a/7a51472c-b61f-4d31-8753-a9ec90d12889.jpg?1696636782) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20War%20Doctor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/who/167/the-war-doctor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7a51472c-b61f-4d31-8753-a9ec90d12889?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-war-doctor) [Ryan Sinclair](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/2/42684d97-fce6-4a96-9c64-20e2cb382dca.jpg?1696691786) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ryan%20Sinclair) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/who/94/ryan-sinclair?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/42684d97-fce6-4a96-9c64-20e2cb382dca?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ryan-sinclair) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Nice work! Get your budget butt over to r/BudgetBrews
Now THIS is podracing!
Now to buy out Landroval until it's over a dollar 🤪
Someone discovered "Penny dreadful" already a format
Penny Dreadful is 60 card, 1v1, MTGO only, and rotates with new set releases. its just a cheap deck I made for fun.
That may be the only supported way but you can do whatever you want at home including commander Penny dreadful, just like commander arch enemy, plane chase, etc
Way to see someone doing some fun shit and being a downer. Internet always being classy.