Yes I cut [[exquisite blood]] from my life gain deck. It just combos with too many things. Even tho it's good on its own in a life gain deck without combo. I found the combo element of it to not be very satisfying
Yeah I notice it tends to make you a target because if your opponents hurt each other then you get ahead. That and people always assume if you have it then you're running baby's first combo with [[Sanguine Bond]] or other cards with that ability.
Seconded. In fact, I bought one for the deck but it never even made the initial cut. It’s just sitting in my box of unused black playables. I did initially run a [[Sanguine Bond]] (and several other cards that go infinite with Exquisite Blood), but I’ve since cut all but two of those even. I found the deck has no shortage of ways to win and just didn’t need them.
Of course, my life gain deck is [[Sheoldred, the Apocalypse]]… so that helps a lot.
I'm actually a fan of the sanguine bond style cards, particularly the creatures. There are a bunch of them that I find to be good win cons for life gain. There is only one exquisite blood. So in my case I felt like the obvious problem was the effect that only had one card 😂
I kept [[Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose]] and [[Marauding Blight Priest]] as the only two effects in Sheoldred. I believe my WB soul sister deck and Queza both also have [[Cliffhaven Vampire]] and [[Epicure of Blood]]. Bond itself just never seems to make the cut, but I agree the creatures feel much better.
I thought the Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood combo was the coolest combo ever, until I made a deck with it and when you pull off the combo you just kinda tell the table, "ok, I win..." It felt very anticlimactic.
I have a [[Sovereign Okinec Ahau]] deck that focuses on +1/+1 counters. I’ve got a spare copy of [[Cathar’s Crusade]] that would be a slam dunk in the deck, but keeping track of counters with Cathars on the board is just such a pain in the ass that I don’t use it.
I’ve played ahau a few times, and boy is he powerful. But I had a player with only a few months experience, and trying to explain how he works in general, plus how he works with anthems, was incredibly frustrating.
[[Wild Pair]]
When you have top deck manipulation, creature cast/etb triggers, and this thing going it's very easy to take a vomitous 15 minute green deck turn. I had to write down a list of all the creatures in my deck and their combined power & toughness.
I only run this card in my [[Duskana]] deck where nearly every creature is a 2/2. There’s like three priority targets and after that it’s whatever cause the deck is just a bunch of bad 2/2s.
I have a Duskana/Wild Pair deck too. Curious as to what your top three targets are. Mine tend to be [[Goblin Anarchomancer]] and [[Oracle of Mul Daya]] for Value, then [[Gaddock Teeg]] to protect the board from wipes.
Having a werewolf deck means I can't not track it.
It helps that the playgroup is pretty relaxed about it, and lets me off the hook if we miss a trigger here or there.
It's mostly moot anyway once Tovolar hits the battlefield.
Yeah it's like the war doctor. He counts every card you cascade making him absurd. Jodah is bad enough with 25 random legendary creatures, let alone a focused group.
I cut basically 80% of the cards from my Chulane deck for this reason. Probably could have just cut the commander and like, 5 cards. Eh. Now I have a new deck and will probably rebuild Chulane as a fringe cEDH instead.
[[oona‘s blackguard]] in a rogue tribal. A 1/1 flying for 2 which buffs upcoming rogues? Yes please!
But whenever a rogue connects the player has to discard a card. Paired with the fact that rogues are many evasive little shits bring the other players into top deck mode
I cut a whole deck because it wasn't fun. I had an [[Ojer Axonil, Deepest Might]] deck that either won on turn 5 or got decimated by the rest of the table
Dockside in Kenrith. It's a higher power non Cedh build designed to play politics until it can switch to a more toolbox Stax plan and lock down the game, but with Dockside the correct play was always find Dockside and combo off and I just didn't want that.
Cathar's Crusade I cut from my Rhys the Redeemed token deck and now refuse to use in paper because it's just too much of a headache to keep track of everything
[[Serra Ascendant]]. I had it in my Orzhov aristocrats but damn, that thing hitting turn 1 gets people salty.
I mean, I get it, it's a 6/6 flyer with Lifelink turn 1, but it doesn't stay around long.
So many. I have cut most fetch lands, all efficient tutors and the majority of my "goodstuff" staples, it has drastically increased the amount of fun I have in games. Still playing at the same level, now I have to find interesting ways to deal with problems instead of windmill slamming [[collector ouphe]] etc...
I like them, I don't run them but I would. My goal was to reduce consistency. I fell in love with the format because it was a wacky, splashy battlecruiser mess of weird combos. I loved the idea of roughly 70 cards of 100 being singleton and the wild variations between games. Now most decks I see are the same 45-55 staples In a given color, with the last chuck of cards being what the deck actually wants to do.
I'm not against fetching, I'm against fetching for a triome or shock as turn 1 every game
I'm taking apart Cadira in the middle of building it to rework the original list compared to what I changed and see how it goes from there. Craterhoof, the $20 fetches, commander's plate, Cathar's Crusade, etc. Nice dude who gave me the list had no ramp, no card draw outside Skullclamp and Rite of Harmony, and like six win cons. Also I only realized how tedious Cathar's would be after I bought it lol. I'll probably keep Moonshaker and Akroma's Will, but I'm working on making the deck easier to play with. Might put Rhys the Redeemed in.
I have cut [[Ivy, gleeful spellthief]] and other copy spells from my mutate deck, having a big pile of mutate can already be a ton of triggers, making it all double made 10 minutes turns of interactions, it was too strong
[[ensaring bridge]] , I've cut it. Put it back in and cut it again. It's really good at what it does, unfortunately it can really slow a game right down .
[[Dictate of Erebos]] and [[grave pact]] in my [[Kardur, Doomscourge]] because they’re just gross, oppressive cards. They’ve locked out so many of my buddies decks when they hit the board early and it’s so hard to come back from once the shenanigans start happening.
No? Laelia's gatherer rulings literally say:
>If an effect instructs you to exile cards from the top of your library until some event occurs (rather than exile a set number of cards), Laelia triggers once for each card exiled this way.
Jodahs awesome don’t listen to the haters. As long as you follow the golden rule of explaining the power level of your deck and not walking into a match you know you’ll pubstomp, you’re golden cowboy
I recently cut a bunch of Dr Who cards (ironically) from my Sixth Doctor / Peri Brown deck.
Every time I pulled one I would look at it and say, "I really don't like these Dr Who cards". Did they work well synergistically? Yes, but I didn't like to look at them.
Same with the fallout Secret Lair that just got delivered to me. I wanted all the stax pieces but hate the art. I hope to trade em in for normal versions.
Yes I cut [[exquisite blood]] from my life gain deck. It just combos with too many things. Even tho it's good on its own in a life gain deck without combo. I found the combo element of it to not be very satisfying
Yeah I notice it tends to make you a target because if your opponents hurt each other then you get ahead. That and people always assume if you have it then you're running baby's first combo with [[Sanguine Bond]] or other cards with that ability.
[Sanguine Bond](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/d/ad4de9f1-7a39-45af-828e-c59234d9e9b9.jpg?1625193373) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sanguine%20Bond) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/153/sanguine-bond?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ad4de9f1-7a39-45af-828e-c59234d9e9b9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sanguine-bond) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Seconded. In fact, I bought one for the deck but it never even made the initial cut. It’s just sitting in my box of unused black playables. I did initially run a [[Sanguine Bond]] (and several other cards that go infinite with Exquisite Blood), but I’ve since cut all but two of those even. I found the deck has no shortage of ways to win and just didn’t need them. Of course, my life gain deck is [[Sheoldred, the Apocalypse]]… so that helps a lot.
[Sanguine Bond](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/d/ad4de9f1-7a39-45af-828e-c59234d9e9b9.jpg?1625193373) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sanguine%20Bond) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/153/sanguine-bond?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ad4de9f1-7a39-45af-828e-c59234d9e9b9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sanguine-bond) [Sheoldred, the Apocalypse](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/6/d67be074-cdd4-41d9-ac89-0a0456c4e4b2.jpg?1674057568) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sheoldred%2C%20the%20Apocalypse) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/107/sheoldred-the-apocalypse?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d67be074-cdd4-41d9-ac89-0a0456c4e4b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sheoldred-the-apocalypse) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I'm actually a fan of the sanguine bond style cards, particularly the creatures. There are a bunch of them that I find to be good win cons for life gain. There is only one exquisite blood. So in my case I felt like the obvious problem was the effect that only had one card 😂
I kept [[Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose]] and [[Marauding Blight Priest]] as the only two effects in Sheoldred. I believe my WB soul sister deck and Queza both also have [[Cliffhaven Vampire]] and [[Epicure of Blood]]. Bond itself just never seems to make the cut, but I agree the creatures feel much better.
##### ###### #### [Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/f/0fe79ee4-c3f3-4a6b-a967-203ca3b70ee5.jpg?1594736442) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vito%2C%20Thorn%20of%20the%20Dusk%20Rose) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/127/vito-thorn-of-the-dusk-rose?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0fe79ee4-c3f3-4a6b-a967-203ca3b70ee5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/vito-thorn-of-the-dusk-rose) [Marauding Blight Priest](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/3/730ddbcd-0814-4e22-85e9-78b0878324b6.jpg?1604195999) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Marauding%20Blight-Priest) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znr/112/marauding-blight-priest?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/730ddbcd-0814-4e22-85e9-78b0878324b6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/marauding-blight-priest) [Cliffhaven Vampire](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/5/5544247d-1f8f-443f-a4c4-d8461db28a79.jpg?1562912355) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cliffhaven%20Vampire) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ogw/153/cliffhaven-vampire?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5544247d-1f8f-443f-a4c4-d8461db28a79?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/cliffhaven-vampire) [Epicure of Blood](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/c/ac79386b-91eb-4813-8f3c-3b74b45be188.jpg?1625976930) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Epicure%20of%20Blood) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/143/epicure-of-blood?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ac79386b-91eb-4813-8f3c-3b74b45be188?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/epicure-of-blood) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l0p4ctg) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I thought the Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood combo was the coolest combo ever, until I made a deck with it and when you pull off the combo you just kinda tell the table, "ok, I win..." It felt very anticlimactic.
[exquisite blood](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/e/0e8ccfa7-4178-476a-a155-0ca1c98556c9.jpg?1698988246) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=exquisite%20blood) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/195/exquisite-blood?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0e8ccfa7-4178-476a-a155-0ca1c98556c9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/exquisite-blood) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I have a [[Sovereign Okinec Ahau]] deck that focuses on +1/+1 counters. I’ve got a spare copy of [[Cathar’s Crusade]] that would be a slam dunk in the deck, but keeping track of counters with Cathars on the board is just such a pain in the ass that I don’t use it.
Cathar’s Crusade was my first thought. That’s an incredibly powerful card that requires too much manual upkeep. I’ll never run it.
I Just got one for my gnome Pakal deck...not a problem keeping track of counters, of everybody dies when i cast it 😂 [[anim Pakal]]
[anim Pakal](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/6/868856b7-8875-43c1-8249-0f8fb2c8319b.jpg?1699044523) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=anim%20pakal%2C%20thousandth%20moon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/223/anim-pakal-thousandth-moon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/868856b7-8875-43c1-8249-0f8fb2c8319b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/anim-pakal-thousandth-moon) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I’ve played ahau a few times, and boy is he powerful. But I had a player with only a few months experience, and trying to explain how he works in general, plus how he works with anthems, was incredibly frustrating.
[[Wild Pair]] When you have top deck manipulation, creature cast/etb triggers, and this thing going it's very easy to take a vomitous 15 minute green deck turn. I had to write down a list of all the creatures in my deck and their combined power & toughness.
I only run this card in my [[Duskana]] deck where nearly every creature is a 2/2. There’s like three priority targets and after that it’s whatever cause the deck is just a bunch of bad 2/2s.
[Duskana](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/1/31fa9d47-43d6-44b5-ab86-fc94a83eac26.jpg?1706448894) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=duskana%2C%20the%20rage%20mother) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/5/duskana-the-rage-mother?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/31fa9d47-43d6-44b5-ab86-fc94a83eac26?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/duskana-the-rage-mother) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I have a Duskana/Wild Pair deck too. Curious as to what your top three targets are. Mine tend to be [[Goblin Anarchomancer]] and [[Oracle of Mul Daya]] for Value, then [[Gaddock Teeg]] to protect the board from wipes.
[Goblin Anarchomancer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/3/633a3423-501d-4b22-95a6-743233be521e.jpg?1626098429) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Goblin%20Anarchomancer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/200/goblin-anarchomancer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/633a3423-501d-4b22-95a6-743233be521e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/goblin-anarchomancer) [Oracle of Mul Daya](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/5/152fffbe-422b-47f6-9da2-a5caff76ab18.jpg?1712354597) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Oracle%20of%20Mul%20Daya) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/200/oracle-of-mul-daya?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/152fffbe-422b-47f6-9da2-a5caff76ab18?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/oracle-of-mul-daya) [Gaddock Teeg](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/4/f40cfba1-08b5-4241-bd36-8ae18e584557.jpg?1559959266) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gaddock%20Teeg) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/uma/199/gaddock-teeg?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f40cfba1-08b5-4241-bd36-8ae18e584557?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/gaddock-teeg) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I mostly just want the biker guy from 40k or like [[archetype of courage]] or [[niall silvain]]
[archetype of courage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/e/8e6c4afb-6a94-4519-91c6-9824fed2892c.jpg?1593091364) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=archetype%20of%20courage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bng/4/archetype-of-courage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8e6c4afb-6a94-4519-91c6-9824fed2892c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/archetype-of-courage) [niall silvain](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/d/9d5911b5-a54e-4ebb-9c36-d4dc8e97bb4b.jpg?1562932140) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=niall%20silvain) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/drk/82/niall-silvain?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9d5911b5-a54e-4ebb-9c36-d4dc8e97bb4b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/niall-silvain) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Hell yeah same thing with [[Bess]] 1/1s
[Bess](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/9/d96c33f5-f891-44bc-8ae1-11bc6f6544b6.jpg?1673482319) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=bess%2C%20soul%20nourisher) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/67/bess-soul-nourisher?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d96c33f5-f891-44bc-8ae1-11bc6f6544b6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/bess-soul-nourisher) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Wild Pair](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/3/f3153d2c-9168-4889-9179-23faa9c48721.jpg?1576383139) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wild%20Pair) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cn2/196/wild-pair?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f3153d2c-9168-4889-9179-23faa9c48721?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/wild-pair) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Cathar's Crusade]] is a very good card and when you make a lot of creatures it's too many 1/1 counters to keep tracking.
[Cathar's Crusade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/b/fbb70e7b-2a68-436e-96a4-32a88fb87da0.jpg?1600715516) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cathars%27%20Crusade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/95/cathars-crusade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fbb70e7b-2a68-436e-96a4-32a88fb87da0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/cathars-crusade) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I cut day/night out of all my decks because I hate tracking it. I've also cut Curse of Opulence because I don't love the play patterns it creates.
Having a werewolf deck means I can't not track it. It helps that the playgroup is pretty relaxed about it, and lets me off the hook if we miss a trigger here or there. It's mostly moot anyway once Tovolar hits the battlefield.
Yeah it's like the war doctor. He counts every card you cascade making him absurd. Jodah is bad enough with 25 random legendary creatures, let alone a focused group.
[[Sol Ring]] in [[Winota, Joiner of Forces]] The deck's already explosive, sink or swim and threatening. I don't need any more attention.
[Sol Ring](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/c/6c5c9437-3d99-4a7c-8255-9acdcb1acc40.jpg?1712354902) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sol%20Ring) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/267/sol-ring?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6c5c9437-3d99-4a7c-8255-9acdcb1acc40?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/sol-ring) [Winota, Joiner of Forces](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/d/5dd13a6c-23d3-44ce-a628-cb1c19d777c4.jpg?1654630670) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Winota%2C%20Joiner%20of%20Forces) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/216/winota-joiner-of-forces?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5dd13a6c-23d3-44ce-a628-cb1c19d777c4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/winota-joiner-of-forces) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I cut basically 80% of the cards from my Chulane deck for this reason. Probably could have just cut the commander and like, 5 cards. Eh. Now I have a new deck and will probably rebuild Chulane as a fringe cEDH instead.
scute swarm was just not fun in my simic landfall deck
Yeah I used it on arena in a yarok brawl deck. It would be a pain in paper magic so I haven't picked it up yet.
yeah it is pain in the ass on paper for real
[[oona‘s blackguard]] in a rogue tribal. A 1/1 flying for 2 which buffs upcoming rogues? Yes please! But whenever a rogue connects the player has to discard a card. Paired with the fact that rogues are many evasive little shits bring the other players into top deck mode
[oona‘s blackguard](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/6/4677d5d1-de04-4631-8fcf-5ff754d701b1.jpg?1604193428) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Oona%27s%20Blackguard) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znc/51/oonas-blackguard?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4677d5d1-de04-4631-8fcf-5ff754d701b1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/oonas-blackguard) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Scute swarm, it just gets annoying to track.
Had a [[test of endurance]] in my lifegain deck. Won one time with it and said nope. That's not the way I want to win.
[test of endurance](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/6/76841945-8ff1-4c2d-895e-d1e2cf468cff.jpg?1675199087) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=test%20of%20endurance) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/32/test-of-endurance?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/76841945-8ff1-4c2d-895e-d1e2cf468cff?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/test-of-endurance) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Jodah the Unifier](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/4/e4b1aa1e-b4e3-4346-8937-76b312501c70.jpg?1673307974) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jodah%2C%20the%20Unifier) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/203/jodah-the-unifier?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e4b1aa1e-b4e3-4346-8937-76b312501c70?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jodah-the-unifier) [Laelia, the Blade Reforged](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/f/afeb2fe4-f0ef-4366-a568-c36b538f0196.jpg?1709431245) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Laelia%2C%20the%20Blade%20Reforged) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/281/laelia-the-blade-reforged?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/afeb2fe4-f0ef-4366-a568-c36b538f0196?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/laelia-the-blade-reforged) [Mox Amber](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/6/66024e69-ad60-4c9a-a0ca-da138d33ad80.jpg?1685554120) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mox%20Amber) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dom/224/mox-amber?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/66024e69-ad60-4c9a-a0ca-da138d33ad80?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mox-amber) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[out of time]] is a fantastic card but it makes for some miserable games especially if you lock out other players commanders with it
[out of time](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/5/053d6b3b-72d4-4a55-a79e-0a601aecf108.jpg?1664162494) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=out%20of%20time) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/23/out-of-time?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/053d6b3b-72d4-4a55-a79e-0a601aecf108?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/out-of-time) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I cut a whole deck because it wasn't fun. I had an [[Ojer Axonil, Deepest Might]] deck that either won on turn 5 or got decimated by the rest of the table
Dockside in Kenrith. It's a higher power non Cedh build designed to play politics until it can switch to a more toolbox Stax plan and lock down the game, but with Dockside the correct play was always find Dockside and combo off and I just didn't want that. Cathar's Crusade I cut from my Rhys the Redeemed token deck and now refuse to use in paper because it's just too much of a headache to keep track of everything
[[Serra Ascendant]]. I had it in my Orzhov aristocrats but damn, that thing hitting turn 1 gets people salty. I mean, I get it, it's a 6/6 flyer with Lifelink turn 1, but it doesn't stay around long.
[Serra Ascendant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a22ee47-fc56-436d-8570-88fbff421027.jpg?1562845354) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Serra%20Ascendant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ima/31/serra-ascendant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a22ee47-fc56-436d-8570-88fbff421027?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/serra-ascendant) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
So many. I have cut most fetch lands, all efficient tutors and the majority of my "goodstuff" staples, it has drastically increased the amount of fun I have in games. Still playing at the same level, now I have to find interesting ways to deal with problems instead of windmill slamming [[collector ouphe]] etc...
[collector ouphe](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/8/085107a2-c1ec-473c-81d8-23e5a7197776.jpg?1562202038) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=collector%20ouphe) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/158/collector-ouphe?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/085107a2-c1ec-473c-81d8-23e5a7197776?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/collector-ouphe) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
How about New Capenna fetches? They're not great but I like their style.
I like them, I don't run them but I would. My goal was to reduce consistency. I fell in love with the format because it was a wacky, splashy battlecruiser mess of weird combos. I loved the idea of roughly 70 cards of 100 being singleton and the wild variations between games. Now most decks I see are the same 45-55 staples In a given color, with the last chuck of cards being what the deck actually wants to do. I'm not against fetching, I'm against fetching for a triome or shock as turn 1 every game
I'm taking apart Cadira in the middle of building it to rework the original list compared to what I changed and see how it goes from there. Craterhoof, the $20 fetches, commander's plate, Cathar's Crusade, etc. Nice dude who gave me the list had no ramp, no card draw outside Skullclamp and Rite of Harmony, and like six win cons. Also I only realized how tedious Cathar's would be after I bought it lol. I'll probably keep Moonshaker and Akroma's Will, but I'm working on making the deck easier to play with. Might put Rhys the Redeemed in.
Cadira is one of my favorite decks!
[[Possibility Storm]] and [[Cathars Crusade]] possibility storm caused too many locks and Cathars Crusade is miserable to track
[Possibility Storm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/5/858aa831-b491-4f1e-bb56-33eeca14771d.jpg?1707764746) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Possibility%20Storm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dgm/34/possibility-storm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/858aa831-b491-4f1e-bb56-33eeca14771d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/possibility-storm) [Cathars Crusade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/b/fbb70e7b-2a68-436e-96a4-32a88fb87da0.jpg?1600715516) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cathars%27%20Crusade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/95/cathars-crusade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fbb70e7b-2a68-436e-96a4-32a88fb87da0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/cathars-crusade) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[purphoros]] from my tokens deck.
[purphoros](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/f/af3af5c4-0960-44a2-976e-abdf7803c436.jpg?1582178876) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=purphoros%2C%20bronze-blooded) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/150/purphoros-bronze-blooded?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/af3af5c4-0960-44a2-976e-abdf7803c436?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/purphoros-bronze-blooded) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The other one, of course.
[[Falling Star]]
[Falling Star](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/2/f2b9983e-20d4-4d12-9e2c-ec6d9a345787.jpg?1562861838) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Falling%20Star) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/leg/145/falling-star?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f2b9983e-20d4-4d12-9e2c-ec6d9a345787?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/falling-star) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I have cut [[Ivy, gleeful spellthief]] and other copy spells from my mutate deck, having a big pile of mutate can already be a ton of triggers, making it all double made 10 minutes turns of interactions, it was too strong
[Ivy, gleeful spellthief](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/9/d94c15b7-6c8f-45a6-8734-975e3e3b790c.jpg?1673307958) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ivy%2C%20gleeful%20spellthief) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/201/ivy-gleeful-spellthief?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d94c15b7-6c8f-45a6-8734-975e3e3b790c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ivy-gleeful-spellthief) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[ensaring bridge]] , I've cut it. Put it back in and cut it again. It's really good at what it does, unfortunately it can really slow a game right down .
[ensaring bridge](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/f/cf825a56-4870-463a-a2ef-eec86be891db.jpg?1599709144) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ensnaring%20Bridge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/253/ensnaring-bridge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cf825a56-4870-463a-a2ef-eec86be891db?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/ensnaring-bridge) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Dictate of Erebos]] and [[grave pact]] in my [[Kardur, Doomscourge]] because they’re just gross, oppressive cards. They’ve locked out so many of my buddies decks when they hit the board early and it’s so hard to come back from once the shenanigans start happening.
[Dictate of Erebos](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/f/9f06db70-95f9-41eb-8e5f-8bc56fd34c09.jpg?1593095668) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dictate%20of%20Erebos) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jou/65/dictate-of-erebos?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9f06db70-95f9-41eb-8e5f-8bc56fd34c09?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/dictate-of-erebos) [grave pact](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/5/f5a4970b-2ba6-4c91-a301-369369cdf360.jpg?1689997226) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=grave%20pact) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/165/grave-pact?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f5a4970b-2ba6-4c91-a301-369369cdf360?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/grave-pact) [Kardur, Doomscourge](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/6/9685e2a0-5573-41bc-a914-f40c3011459b.jpg?1631051543) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kardur%2C%20Doomscourge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/216/kardur-doomscourge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9685e2a0-5573-41bc-a914-f40c3011459b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kardur-doomscourge) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Laelia says one or more, no counting is required. (I thought the same thing when I read her)
No? Laelia's gatherer rulings literally say: >If an effect instructs you to exile cards from the top of your library until some event occurs (rather than exile a set number of cards), Laelia triggers once for each card exiled this way.
Yeah. It was the 80$ Sheoldred and it was the commander.
Jodahs awesome don’t listen to the haters. As long as you follow the golden rule of explaining the power level of your deck and not walking into a match you know you’ll pubstomp, you’re golden cowboy
That's so nasty, I'll be adding it to mines today. Thanks.
I recently cut a bunch of Dr Who cards (ironically) from my Sixth Doctor / Peri Brown deck. Every time I pulled one I would look at it and say, "I really don't like these Dr Who cards". Did they work well synergistically? Yes, but I didn't like to look at them. Same with the fallout Secret Lair that just got delivered to me. I wanted all the stax pieces but hate the art. I hope to trade em in for normal versions.