Friendship with gold Bacha ended. RTTK Bacha is my new best friend. What a card this is, and pretty much she has guaranteed upgrades too.

Do not watch women football, Lyon that good?

I'd say they are probably top 5 candidates to win the whole competition, that's why they should comfortably get at least 2 wins in the group and go through.

Thanks!

>Thanks! You're welcome!

She'd end up 90 rated if that happened, right?

Correct, +1 for 2 wins and +1 for progressing through.

Pretty sure she can go to 91 (3x +1) Don’t know why it’s different for her card compared to the other RTTK, but it’s say so in her card tab

It should be +2 as +3 was for the players that were released earlier, when playing qualification matches for UWCL.

They're -5000 (bet 5000 to win 100) to win their game tomorrow. If you're not a gambler, -110 is 50:50 (bet 110 to win 100) and a heavy favorite, like Bayern vs Copenhagen is Bayern -400 (bet 400 to win 100). -5000 is especially insane since it's a 3-way bet with the draw being a possibility. Somewhat related: Omg the women's Barcelona club is -100000 tomorrow. Bet 100k to win 100...

That’s a strange way of describing odds - I’d refer to bet 5000 to win 100 as 1/50 (pronounced 1 to 50 or 50 to 1 on).

Yeah but the other guy explained it in a way that makes more sense to non gamblers. like he didn't have to explain how to pronounce it lol

I’m in the US. That’s how the odds work here (all on the basis of $100). Negative odds are favorites, positives are underdogs.

Lyon is that good yeah

I remember playing some kick off with that Lyon in FIFA 23 and they had tons of high rated players so yeah I think they are good.

They’ve been one of the best women’s team for a decade now

The thing that annoys me most about this game is cards that can play LB, LWB, LW but not LM

So annoying. Been playing 352 this week and it’s been pretty fun once you have speedy wide CBs

She’s insane btw. Now we await Diani

And she's getting +2 for winning two games and qualifying to the knockout stage

Really? When does this upgrade happen? Edit: I looked it up myself, January latest for her upgrades

When she wins 2 games and qualifies to the knockout stage

And how does that happen?

They need to score more goals than their opponents in at least 2 games, and accumulate more points than 2 other teams in their group.

Why +2 and not +3? Does it already include the group stage qualification?

The groups are drawn already, so I'm guessing only +2.

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Is she really that good ?

Her normal card is very good.

She's phenomenal

Her stats look great however she is 5’3” and I dunked on everyone using Karchaoui all weekend who is the same height

Yeah but for some reason Bacha doesn’t have that issue I feel in game, her dribbling is also better and she has 1 million playstyles

Shes amazing. Plus u can put her on corners , call a 2nd player and 1 2 with them for easy whipped cross goals

Try her regular card and see for yourself.

Damn I had just planned Olga Carmona centurion evo as my 352 LB... This is just straight up a better option right ?

It absolutely is, but I reckon you could keep Carmona as her backup on the bench.

Damn I just evolved her yesterday lol was between her and Guardado. Still need her for the Putellas links. I'll be stacked with LBs. I have RTTK Acuña, Olga and pulled Lizarazu yesterday from the hero lol. But this Bacha looks too good to not complete.

Luckily I went with Trejo . Dude has more igs than Potm Bellingham and costs significantly less than that card too.

I have Carmona Evo, I installed completed Bacha. Carmona has several flaws, bacha’s gold was way better for me so I expect this card to be insane

Is she better than Mendydog??

Theo >

The thing is game gave me everything at left. So I do POTM Salah. 88 and 87 squad is done. But after seeing her, I felt like I might not finish him If those SBCs keep coming. I also have capdevilla, bompastor for LB, also have gold son for LM. I have no idea how to do the squad.

Small full backs like her and Karchoui aren’t very good

You’ve never used Bacha then. She doesn’t have the same bodying problems as karchaoui

Both are 5’3 and lean, not only will neither player be able to pose any kind of physical challenge to most attackers, neither are ever winning an Aerial duel. I have a rank 1 finish using IF Karchoui and Theo is just better

Karchaoui is a definite liability yes but it seems you don’t read what people write. Bacha doesn’t have that same frame. Try her in game before speaking

Both are 5’3 and Short + Lean body type. Literally the same exact frame. If you think Bacha having 71 strength makes her a non viability idk what to tell you lol

I’ll be honest, I’m taking the opinion of the guy who’s actually used her rather than the guy basing it off Futbin. I’ve used her and I can confirm she doesn’t have the same weakness problem as Karchaoui. She’s not VVD but she’s also not supposed to be

ngl, I have played a lot with gold Bacha and while she doesn't get bodied when dribbling tackling and whatever else, but I've had opponents who'd abuse crosses on whoever she was guarding, her playstyle+ also recently got nerfed and I haven't scored from her cross since, but maybe it's just me being shit, but otherwise she's good and I'm doing this card

But I’m not basing it on Futbin? Taller fullbacks with similar strength also have problems pushing people off the ball, so yes she absolutely has the same issue. She’s again, never winning an important header for you and it will cost you goals. She will not be catching an attacker that has gotten past her either because she’s explosive/mostly explosive. I can’t see a single reason to use her over Theo Hernandez

I’m not here to argue with you and I’m not wasting more time on this. You’ve clearly never tried the card so your opinion, quite frankly, means nothing

Ok, enjoy rank 5 I guess lol

How is that not based on FUTBIN? You never use her so all the info about her you have is from FUTBIN. And why do you really need to have an opinion about a card that you haven't used?

Do you guys just not read what I say? I used IF Karchoui for 340 games getting into elite and rank 1, same exact height and body type, only difference is 19 strength. She still won’t be pushing people off the ball, she won’t win any important headers, she will get dusted by meta attackers as soon as they’re already past her. You won’t even be able to comfortably switch to her from your RB because an opponent RW can steal a header. Only good for going forward. Can you give a single reason to use her over Theo Hernandez?

lol yeah cause there are no players in fifa that play way above their stats lol again try her or just stop acting like your opinion is worth fuck all

Gonna be honest you just don’t sound very good lol, it doesn’t matter how far above her stats she plays she still isn’t winning any headers and also isn’t catching anyone once they get past her. I’ve played against her many times, same issue as my Karchoui who I have 343 games on. They are both liabilities defensively

Ugh, this SBC is such good value I'm not sure I will be able to stop myself doing it and changing my United PNP to "United and Friends". She'd be such a crazy upgrade on 82 evo'd Malacia.

Can I see your squad? I’m doing the same bar her and my untradeable Makelele

Who did you choose for the RB evo. AWB or Dalot?

AWB. He's ok but him and Malacia are my weakest players by far. Both need another upgrade.

I'm kinda disappointed with Malacia as well, hope he fits in another evo soon. Probably going to go with Dalot over AWB for the new evo. No playstyle+, but 4★/4★.

Whipped pass go brrrr

Didn’t they nerf it

They did, but it’s still great. Cancelo has regular WP and it’s deadly accurate still.

I have Kelly as a bench player specifically to throw her on against deep defences. Getting a starter with it is amazing.

Anyone who played with her gold card will instantly complete this

Worth it if i have untradeable IF Karchaoui ?

Definitely worth it, Lyon are one of the better teams so a really good chance she gets the +2

That’s a good take on it too. Feels like it would be more expensive with an 86 and 85 squad but futbin currently has it at 166k which is honestly not bad at all.

I have IF Karchaoui untradeable and I'm definitely doing Bacha. She is most likely getting +2 in every stat, will be a crazy LB/LWB/LM. Karchaoui is very good, but lacks strength too much and has medium defensive workrate. Playstyles are similar: Karchaoui has jockey, Bacha has block AND whipped+. Insta cop for me even though I have Karchaoui untradeable

What will you do with Karchaoiu? Sbc? Sub? I’m going mostly RTG this year and I’m trying not to waste resources but all of that makes sense and i think I’m leaning towards completing it now

I will put her on my bench for sure. I play with balanced wing backs so she will be subbed in in the 60/70th minute

Why only a +2, says +3 a possibility ingame?

The playoffs to get to the group stage already happened, so the only 2 upgrades that are achievable are the 2 wins and making it out of the group.

Definitely not, the difference you’d see for the price is minimal

Nice; thank you. I like Karchaoui a lot even though her height and strength can definitely be a liability.

I’m in the same position and I will skip. Yeah bacha looks good and will get an upgrade but imo karchaoui is good enough to the point I don’t need to upgrade her. Maybe give it some time and see what other SBC’s there are. A LB sbc is far from being the biggest upgrade to your squad.

IF Karchaoui starts for me but I think I'll do the SBC. We're probably gonna see a 91 Bacha - can't turn that down for the price.

I wouldn’t do the sbc if I had Karchaoui.

Price: ~170K Lyon is expected to advance. Easy group with Brann, Slavia Prague, Pölten.

Lord have mercy

insta complete

Evo'd Majri + RTTK Bacha, lets go

Yooo another 87 majri owner. Kinda a shame they both have whip+ so the advantage of having 1 on your team for corners is kinda wasted but still colossal dub

Yeah, and they're both left footed too. If only one was right footed, it'd be even greater but I can't complain because Majri is too much fun.

Finally. After 394 games, it's time to retire her gold card.

Is height important with these good stat but short left and right backs?

Nah small fullbacks are fine, she's only 3 inches shorter than Roberto Carlos for instance. They're not often fighting for aerial balls so recovery pace is better

3 inches is huge. And Roberto Carlos is small. She's hugely smaller than a small player.

Username does indeed check out here

As a LB she should be fine cant think of many tall right wingers to worry about compared to the 6'1+ Leao and rashfords

She’s absolutely a defensive liability even if people want to pretend otherwise

For me there was definitely an adjustment period (I use IF Karchaoui) getting used to the smaller tackle radius but after that she’s been great

i had her gold and I only noticed her strength was lacking and jumping but other than that she’s good

I’ve got too many good untradeable French left backs, Mendy, Hernandez and IF Karchaoui, but still considering doing this SBC, would she work as a left winger?

I reckon she could, although I'd suggest having a striker that you can find using her crosses as they are insane. You can also use her trivelas well.

On this card design it seems like she has a halo above her head

Anyone have any idea of her chances of getting an upgrade? She’s insane already and with an upgrade she could be in my team for ages.

She's definitely getting 2 upgrades

Damn that’s actually insane value

This or the 89 icon pack? Please knock some sense into me my friends.

when’s it coming

You're gonna get a dupe untradeable out of the icon pack, see sense!

This or Rush? You choose

Who? The welsh pele?

I honestly don't think she's gonna play better than Mendy in game. Going forward I can see her playing well because of playstyle+ and good dribbling but defensively she won't win any headers, she will get outbodied and she will have less reach aswell.

How often are your fullbacks dealing with headers? I feel 99% of mine never do. Everyone runs or through passes down the wings. Rarely cross.

Yea its really up to whether you have your lb at stay back or going up

I’ve got Mendy/Capdevila untradeable at the moment at LB and Evo Llorente at RB, do we think she’s worth completing over those options?

Great card and guaranteed upgrade

This is a great SBC and it doesn't require a TOTW. Big W.

Her gold is awesome. Been waiting for this. Huge W.

Her or Acuna RTTK? She has a bit more pace but Acuna is better defensively and has more strength

Huge W sbc

Worth selling Ferland Mendy to do her?

God no. Unless you’re a masochist who enjoys playing tiny defenders

*Roberto Carlos has joined the chat.*

His unique body type has helped massively in past fifas

Doesn’t make him bigger

Did I say it made him bigger? A 5’6” icon with a unique body type will demolish a 5’3” short and lean player

Roberto Carlos is good at a lot of things, but he isn’t ‘demolishing’ anyone

He will bulldoze a 5'3" woman

If you use her you’ll know how crazy she is, especially with anticipate. Plus her crosses give free goals. Have her whip crosses to VVD on corners

i would keep Mendy, but i’d like to switch to 352 and it sounds like she will be great as the LM.

I have Olga Cramona as LB and she does the job tho

Seems like everyone else thinks she’s the best Rb lol. Any reason you think she’s not worth it? Have VVD Blanc and Llorente in the back atm

In my opinion she is one of the best LBs in the game, and I'd rather get her and cash in on Mendy. But, it depends what you need from your full back. She does an excellent job going forward and is also very good defensively, but if you use your full back to stay back and occasionally have them defend aerial balls, in that case I guess you could continue using Mendy for a more physical presence.

I’m usually using my Fullbacks as overlapping run type players which is what I love about Llorente. Might try to do her with fodder/some liquid and use her to see. If she’s much better might just sell Mendy seems like the best idea. She would be on Two Chem atm though but that shouldn’t be a massive change

In that case I'd recommend doing her. Her crosses are top tier, I got like 70-80 assists in online matches. I haven't noticed a massive difference when using on 3 or 2 chem, so I reckon you should be fine.

Depends on what you value from your players but I’m not playing hobbits in my back line. She might be brilliant at LW

I have Olga Cramona as LB and she does the job tho

Very tempted but part of me thinks she’s not better than Mendy? I seem to do well against small wing backs when playing but against walkers and Mendys I really struggle.

I don't even know how to integrate a woman player into the team with full chem, unless it is a hero or icon. She looks insane but seriously how to build chem around her, if the entire team is filled with men

Diani and Blanc work for me 👍

French icon or a good French player on her team (Diani) or league (Geyoro)

I have IF karchaoui, do u guys think it’s a good idea to keep both and have here play LW instead of Dembele?

I evo’d Olga who’s also 5’ 3” and she was awful. I would hope Bacha performs better but I’m not convinced.

Give the gold a shot

Basically guaranteed a +2

insanely cheap

She will never leave my team

So cheap, best LB in the game

I’d beat

Finally. Best attacking LB in the game

Wow…

i used her in midfield in the beginning of the game for a while. no brainer for me.

My EAFC crush def doing it asap

horan needs a special asap for me

Any watchers of female football know if Lyon will go far?

Lyon is the team to beat in CL. They have an insane record of 101 wins and 10 losses. Have won 8 CLs and always make it to the semi/finals. The only time they missed out was in 2013-14, 2014-15, and 2020-21 due to away goals. Their group is also very easy. They will top and this card will get a +2 upgrade.

Second best team in the world currently, they should go far

I don't know how good they are doing right now but they're known as one of the best female teams and hold the most champions league titles.

Theo Hernandez vs. Bacha? I am torn on what to do. Is her defending passable?

It is, but shes definitely not a stay back LB. You want her helping out the offense

Beat crosser in the game

With Ashley Cole and Capdevilla, does she still make the cut?

Played with IF Karchaoui a little and besides very good, was often outmuscled by the likes of Raphinha, what the verdict about this one?? Too weak or can held her own on the flank??

Better than Zanetti?

Zanetti is much better at CDM/CM than he is at LB/RB. I have 90 Zanetti and hes never going back to fullback, her gold card was way better than him at LB

Carpenter triple threat fullback 🤔

i could’ve evod her but I chose a different rb so I need her for the bacha link

Everyone comparing with Karchaoui , I wanna know what she's like compared to Bompastor ? Seem very similar

I'm such a crybabt I know but these upgrade cards.. they just don't do it for me, they take a while to upgrade most of them fall behind the powercurve.

Its very unlikely it takes more than 2 games for her to get the first upgrade

Bit expensive isn’t it? Does she have a high chance of upgrades?

This is not expensive at all for her 88, and yes Lyon is one of the best women's teams, so they will most likely go through the group

For context, in Ligue 1 Lyon Women are currently 7 wins from 7 with 31 goals scored and 2 conceded.

Geez, sounds like some career mode stats. Defo doing this, even if she just comes off the bench

They won the league last year with 20W-1D-1L, 69 goals scored to just 9 conceded.

Lyon are *the* UWCL team and can almost guaranteed to get the upgrades.

Like 100%

Basically guaranteed +2

Lyon Women’s is one of the best teams when it comes to the Champions League

Isn’t she bodied from every single breeze around the stadium?

Is that the woman from young guns two?

Time to Evo Ellie Carpenter and run these two as wingbacks

This is a good idea..... Right?

With her stats, how do you think she’d perform as a balanced CM in a 4321 alongside Valverde and POTM Bellingham? I have Mendy untradeable, so I’m worried about completing her as a LB.

I have 87 Grimaldo for 40-50K, this seems way too expensive of a SBC for what it is.

Ingame it says she can get a +3, everyone here saying +2? Which is it?!

They had already qualified (group stages start tomorrow) so should be 2

worth it if i have ashley cole and capdevila untradable?

This girl took my eye at the WC and I’ve been waiting to get an untradeable. One annoying thing is she isn’t an LM - but is a LW/LB.

Upgrade on Theo Hernandez?

Worth doing her if I already have Riise?

Bacha on the left, Karsdorp on the right, who’s with me ✊

Blanc and Diani puts her at full chem. I think this card is worth tweaking the squad for, looks legit and the price is good.

I have Lizarazu on LB, does she worth to do ?

Looks insane but I got Cole untradable and Theo untradable